Obama offers job to known terrorist sympathizer!!!!!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It looks like he is paling around with yet another terrorist... He offered the chief of staff job to Rahm Emanuel, a Jew from Illinois whose father was a member of Irgun, the Jewish "terror" group that helped create the state of Israel.

Now, i'm totally confused. A job offer to a known terrorist sympathizer..an offer to a JEW....but, all my conservative friends were telling me that Obama was against Israel....secret sympathies with Arabs and Muslims.

[bobblehead]

You must not consider me a friend, I refuted that BS everytime and it is people like you that continue to spew it. No self respecting conservative called obama a muslim. Only the moveon.org wing of the right spewed that crap and people like you, as always try to paint conservatives with the broad rascist/intolerant brush.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You must not consider me a friend, I refuted that BS everytime and it is people like you that continue to spew it. No self respecting conservative called obama a muslim. Only the moveon.org wing of the right spewed that crap and people like you, as always try to paint conservatives with the broad rascist/intolerant brush.

Where in that post did i say you or conservs said he was a muslim?

I alluded to many comments made here and other places that he wouldn't support Israel and that he was more sympathetic to arabs and Muslims than Israel.

You need to relax a bit. I thought all that time in Thailand would have relaxed you a bit. Breathe deeply and find your sense of humor.

[Joemailman]

Is that him with Sylvia Kristel?

http://image.allmusic.com/00/adg/cov200/drt000/t017/t01730xqdon.jpg

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rahm's brother is uber agent and model for Jeremy Piven's character on Entourage.

In the spirit of that show...I say to all my conservative friends, "let's hug it out bitches!!"

[LL2]

Actually The Fraud did say he was a Muslim. It was during an interview with George Stephanopulous (sp?). The Fraud started by saying he's Muslim and George interupted him and said your a Christian, and then The Fraud started over saying he's a Christian. There is an actual clip on it and I'd have to find it, but it's true. It was one of those moments where The Fraud slipped and show his real self...like the "spread the wealth" comment.

[swede]

It looks like he is paling around with yet another terrorist... He offered the chief of staff job to Rahm Emanuel, a Jew from Illinois whose father was a member of Irgun, the Jewish "terror" group that helped create the state of Israel.

Now, i'm totally confused. A job offer to a known terrorist sympathizer..an offer to a JEW....but, all my conservative friends were telling me that Obama was against Israel....secret sympathies with Arabs and Muslims.

I noted that also, Ty.

Rahm Emanuel really sounds like a bulldog to me. He actually traveled to Israel during the first Gulf War to help out with the Israeli militia because a relatively nice man named Saddam Hussein had been launching SCUD missiles into Israel in an attempt to drive a wedge between the US and Arab allies. (Wonder what happened to that guy?) That makes Rahm Emmanuel a brave guy with convictions in my book. As far as I know he didn't make the other guys in his squad take movies of him looking brave, so that makes him a better guy than Kerry.

There is a strong possibility that Rahm Emmanuel is just the guy to keep the left wing loonies from wrecking Obama's presidency early on. I will watch carefully and withhold negative judgements about the guy until he does something crappy.

[MJZiggy]

And from what I've seen, dude's kinda hot.

[bobblehead]

Actually The Fraud did say he was a Muslim. It was during an interview with George Stephanopulous (sp?). The Fraud started by saying he's Muslim and George interupted him and said your a Christian, and then The Fraud started over saying he's a Christian. There is an actual clip on it and I'd have to find it, but it's true. It was one of those moments where The Fraud slipped and show his real self...like the "spread the wealth" comment.

You are correct, he did and as such I denounce him as a loon. He also thinks we have 57 states.

[MJZiggy]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

[mraynrand]

Actually The Fraud did say he was a Muslim. It was during an interview with George Stephanopulous (sp?). The Fraud started by saying he's Muslim and George interupted him and said your a Christian, and then The Fraud started over saying he's a Christian. There is an actual clip on it and I'd have to find it, but it's true. It was one of those moments where The Fraud slipped and show his real self...like the "spread the wealth" comment.

You are correct, he did and as such I denounce him as a loon. He also thinks we have 57 states.

He also once said "uh" three times in a row. He must have a speech impediment that will likely haunt his presidency. Like saying 'nucular.'

[HowardRoark]

He also once said "uh" three times in a row.

uh, uh, uh, uh, frankly, uh, uh, frankly that would have been a, uh, uh, good, uh, frankly, uh, sentence.

[texaspackerbacker]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

This is a very valid point. Come on now, fellow conservatives, Obama indeed, IS our president--or will be in January.

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.

[Fosco33]

Actually The Fraud did say he was a Muslim. It was during an interview with George Stephanopulous (sp?). The Fraud started by saying he's Muslim and George interupted him and said your a Christian, and then The Fraud started over saying he's a Christian. There is an actual clip on it and I'd have to find it, but it's true. It was one of those moments where The Fraud slipped and show his real self...like the "spread the wealth" comment.

I got the forward from a friend. No joke - Derrick Frost sent it to him.

It was an interesting clip but I'd like to see the whole thing to make a final call.

[HowardRoark]

It's the only fair thing.

Don't play the fair card. It's not fair.

[digitaldean]

I'd say it's only right to show the new POTUS some respect and willingness to work with him. Something the crazy libs FAILED to do after the contentious 2000 election. Bush after both elections tried to reach out to the Dems only to get an upper cut from Daschle, Reid, Pelosi, et al.

The GOP can show the country they can work with him, but they can still find a way to stand for their core principles. Being gracious does NOT mean getting rolled all the time.

Emanuel is not a real bipartisan choice, but he may be just the buffer between Obama and the power drunk MoveOn.org wing of the Democrat party. If the union card check bill, the Fairness Doctrine, etc. get through it's proof Obama's Jimmy C the II and Emanuel can't control Schumer, Reid and Pelosi (alias Larry, Moe and Curly)

If Emanuel works like he did in the 90s for Clinton (working with Newt for the balanced budget agreement and welfare reform), there is a sliver (and only a sliver) of getting things done with Republicans. Yes, the Dems can ramrod just about anything through, but there are still some moderate Dems that can hold up some of the farther left items.

There will still be liberal judges appointed. I think the GOP has a right to fight even filibuster these. But given how squishy some of the moderate GOPers are, it won't be too likely.

If the Dems try pushing all their pet legislation through, then they will find in 2010 a good chunk of them won't be back. This country may have moved more left, they still have not crossed the threshold of going raving liberal.

[mraynrand]

all my conservative friends

You have conservative friends?

[bobblehead]

Actually The Fraud did say he was a Muslim. It was during an interview with George Stephanopulous (sp?). The Fraud started by saying he's Muslim and George interupted him and said your a Christian, and then The Fraud started over saying he's a Christian. There is an actual clip on it and I'd have to find it, but it's true. It was one of those moments where The Fraud slipped and show his real self...like the "spread the wealth" comment.

I got the forward from a friend. No joke - Derrick Frost sent it to him.

It was an interesting clip but I'd like to see the whole thing to make a final call.

It was pretty straight forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

No misquote or trickery...does that mean he is a muslim? Probably not, it was a case where the thought was in his mind and it slipped out.

[texaspackerbacker]

It's the only fair thing.

Don't play the fair card. It's not fair.

Oh Howard, don't be such a sore loser. Don't you agree, we need to treat President Erkel, oops, I mean Obama, with EXACTLY the same kind of respect the lefties showed Bush?

That kind of fairness ought to appeal even to you.

[LL2]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

This is a very valid point. Come on now, fellow conservatives, Obama indeed, IS our president--or will be in January.

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.

You got that right...The Fraud deserves the same respect!

[Harlan Huckleby]

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.

All you can control is your own behavior. The fact that so many liberals were shitheads towards Bush doesn't matter.

I've been thinking about this issue a lot the last 6 months. I've come to the conclusion that liberals and conservatives are about equally nasty. But the liberals are far more offensive because they think they are nice people by devine right. Leftists are oblivious. I saw so many ironic rants by left-wingers saying that Hillary Clinton is a vicious witch and John McCain is a mean old man - and worst of all they engage in dirty politics.

[mraynrand]

All you can control is your own behavior.

That's not what you tell us on every other issue. On every other issue, you seem to be telling us which behaviour we should and shouldn't have. How we should redefine marriage, how we should empty our pockets for health care (but not you). You seem perfectly comfortable 'controlling' other's behaviours so that they fit your ideology.

[texaspackerbacker]

The bottom line of all this, though, is that all of the disrespect and nastiness and perceived threat to our way of life, etc. is true and justified when applied to Obama, just as it was with Bill Clinton.

That is NOT the case, however, with George W. Bush.

Bush literally saved this country from repeats of 9/11 and by cutting taxes which brought back the country. If Algore had been president, not only is it highly probable that we would have had repeats of 9/11, but Gore would have driven this country into third world-style depravity and been happy to do it because that would promote his idiotic environmental agenda.

The inane moral equivalence crap being exuded by libs in here, incredibly, attempts to justify the savaging of Bush. It's like last week when somebody idiotically painted all politicians with the same brush--the height of mroal equivalence.

[sooner6600]

Tex;

Do you think president elect; the fraud is more akin to
Algonguin J Calhoun?







Hint; Fresh Air Cab Company.

[mraynrand]

Do you think president elect; the fraud is more akin to
Algonguin J Calhoun?

I'm hoping he's not another Huey Long.

[Gunakor]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

This is a very valid point. Come on now, fellow conservatives, Obama indeed, IS our president--or will be in January.

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.


So are you rooting for Obama to fail? Do you realize the position Obama is in right now? Obama's failures and successes over the next 4 years are America's failures and successes. Are you rooting for America to fail, just to prove a point?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Wow. You conservatives are really bitter.

[arcilite]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

[swede]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

Well you guys are the whine experts so you probably know your grapes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

They are in stage 3 of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

[Harlan Huckleby]

All you can control is your own behavior.

That's not what you tell us on every other issue. On every other issue, you seem to be telling us which behaviour we should and shouldn't have. How we should redefine marriage, how we should empty our pockets for health care (but not you). You seem perfectly comfortable 'controlling' other's behaviours so that they fit your ideology.

this is too bizarre. how do you get emptying your pockets and not mine? everybody pays taxes.

you seem to equate a compassinate government as "controlling others behavior."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

Well you guys are the whine experts so you probably know your grapes.

And, this year is a vintage year for whining.

[texaspackerbacker]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

This is a very valid point. Come on now, fellow conservatives, Obama indeed, IS our president--or will be in January.

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.


So are you rooting for Obama to fail? Do you realize the position Obama is in right now? Obama's failures and successes over the next 4 years are America's failures and successes. Are you rooting for America to fail, just to prove a point?

No, it's more a matter of expectation. Hoping for bad things to happen to America, that's what your side is all about.

Like a parasite that doesn't kill the host, I don't think the crap Obama proposes will have the intentional effect of destroying America--harming it, yes, but destroying, no. The unintended consequence of terrorism, though, which will be extremely much more likely with Obama, very well could destroy the country.

Furthermore, I actually WOULD accuse Obama of hating the concept of American dominance and American prosperity aove all others. To that extent, he may well INTENTIONALLY bring America down.

[mraynrand]

All you can control is your own behavior.

That's not what you tell us on every other issue. On every other issue, you seem to be telling us which behaviour we should and shouldn't have. How we should redefine marriage, how we should empty our pockets for health care (but not you). You seem perfectly comfortable 'controlling' other's behaviours so that they fit your ideology.

this is too bizarre. how do you get emptying your pockets and not mine? everybody pays taxes.

you seem to equate a compassinate government as "controlling others behavior."

Well, the money has to come from somewhere. If the government wants to be 'compassionate' by handing out bennies they have to take it from someone else. The more they want to hand out (the more compassionate they get on one end) the more they have to take on the other end and the lower and lower they have to define down 'rich.' Forcing you to hand over more dollars is controlling your behaviour.

[texaspackerbacker]

Technically, the money does NOT have to come from somewhere--at least not somewhere other than the government printing presses i.e. deficit spending.

I'm NOT advocating Obama-esque social welfare spending; And I freely acknowledge that obama and the Dems indeed DO intend to confiscate the money they dish out from people in the upper income levels; I'm just saying, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY! You do NOT need to "pay for" government spending with higher taxes or whatever. The economic growth generated by the spending with subsequent enhanced overall taxable income and tax revenue to the government negates the need for tax increases. Unfortunately, neither the damn socialist-leaning Dems nor the "fiscally responsible" Republicans seem to understand that.

[MJZiggy]

All you can control is your own behavior.

That's not what you tell us on every other issue. On every other issue, you seem to be telling us which behaviour we should and shouldn't have. How we should redefine marriage, how we should empty our pockets for health care (but not you). You seem perfectly comfortable 'controlling' other's behaviours so that they fit your ideology.

this is too bizarre. how do you get emptying your pockets and not mine? everybody pays taxes.

you seem to equate a compassinate government as "controlling others behavior."

Well, the money has to come from somewhere. If the government wants to be 'compassionate' by handing out bennies they have to take it from someone else. The more they want to hand out (the more compassionate they get on one end) the more they have to take on the other end and the lower and lower they have to define down 'rich.' Forcing you to hand over more dollars is controlling your behaviour.

You know he didn't define "rich" by a dollar figure in the campaign until someone asked. His estimate was the top 5% of earners in the country. The top 5% is never going to be making 40K like you claim. That argument is nothing more than propaganda and it's really not helping anything. Dude hasn't even gotten into office yet and you're already accusing him of shit he hasn't done.

[bobblehead]

All you can control is your own behavior.

That's not what you tell us on every other issue. On every other issue, you seem to be telling us which behaviour we should and shouldn't have. How we should redefine marriage, how we should empty our pockets for health care (but not you). You seem perfectly comfortable 'controlling' other's behaviours so that they fit your ideology.

this is too bizarre. how do you get emptying your pockets and not mine? everybody pays taxes.

you seem to equate a compassinate government as "controlling others behavior."

One party taking money from another under the power of gov't is not an example of compassion.

[bobblehead]

Technically, the money does NOT have to come from somewhere--at least not somewhere other than the government printing presses i.e. deficit spending.

I'm NOT advocating Obama-esque social welfare spending; And I freely acknowledge that obama and the Dems indeed DO intend to confiscate the money they dish out from people in the upper income levels; I'm just saying, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY! You do NOT need to "pay for" government spending with higher taxes or whatever. The economic growth generated by the spending with subsequent enhanced overall taxable income and tax revenue to the government negates the need for tax increases. Unfortunately, neither the damn socialist-leaning Dems nor the "fiscally responsible" Republicans seem to understand that.

I'm pretty sure that this has been disproven over the last 8 years tex. You just refuse to follow your own logic to a logical end. These things have reasons for happening and printing money and handing it out to the "lower class" is not going to stimulate the economy enough to pay for it. Infrastructure spending will pay for itself long term, but nothing like a one year payback like you suggest.

If your logic is true why not print a million for everyone....think of the economic prosperity that would insue...and no inflation or devaluation of the dollar either....oh the nirvana of everyone retiring.

Its really hard for us small gov't proponents to espouse the values of doing it our way when you spew this stuff.

Yes, studies prove that tax cuts bringing rates down to 19% are beneficial and pay for themselves, but that is a far cry from gov't borrowing 100 billion to give away and magically generating 100 billion in revenues. Science simply doesn't back this up. Assuming a 20% tax rate that money would have to create 500 billion in economic growth to pay for itself...now go run the math and show me what our growth has been under bush while we deficit spent and printed about 12% more money per year....around 3%.

[LL2]

And yet he's still your president. (did ya ever think that maybe he's planning on picking up a few while he's in office?)

This is a very valid point. Come on now, fellow conservatives, Obama indeed, IS our president--or will be in January.

We need to be very scrupulous to SHOW THE NEW PRESIDENT EXACTLY THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS SHOWN TO THEIR/OUR PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. It's the only fair thing.


So are you rooting for Obama to fail? Do you realize the position Obama is in right now? Obama's failures and successes over the next 4 years are America's failures and successes. Are you rooting for America to fail, just to prove a point?

I don't think any conservatives want Obama to fail. It's just that his failures, if he has any, will be pointed out fairly or not just like Bush's failures were pointed out over and over again. It's a double edged sword the business The Fraud is in.

[LL2]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

Well you guys are the whine experts so you probably know your grapes.

And, this year is a vintage year for whining.

Do not even start with the bitterness and sour grapes stuff. Puleease! The Democrats and Liberals have been bitter for 8 years! Don't even get into asking for examples. No one has to look further than Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and Oliver Stone. I can't even think of a movie put out during the term of a sitting president that is as tasteless and offensive and W. is about Bush. Ty didn't you point out that W. was such a blockbuster success over a conservative movie? There are probably a million examples that could be given of the bitterness of the left from those in Hollywood to the politicians. The liberals and the left never treated Bush with respect. From everything I've seen and read most conservatives have been gracious towards Obama, even several on here. If some have a "we'll see" mentality, well that come with the business. At least a "we'll see" approach is better than the "were fucked" mentality of the liberal lefties after Bush was elected.

[HowardRoark]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

Well you guys are the whine experts so you probably know your grapes.

And, this year is a vintage year for whining.

Do not even start with the bitterness and sour grapes stuff. Puleease! The Democrats and Liberals have been bitter for 8 years! Don't even get into asking for examples. No one has to look further than Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and Oliver Stone. I can't even think of a movie put out during the term of a sitting president that is as tasteless and offensive and W. is about Bush. Ty didn't you point out that W. was such a blockbuster success over a conservative movie? There are probably a million examples that could be given of the bitterness of the left from those in Hollywood to the politicians. The liberals and the left never treated Bush with respect. From everything I've seen and read most conservatives have been gracious towards Obama, even several on here. If some have a "we'll see" mentality, well that come with the business. At least a "we'll see" approach is better than the "were fucked" mentality of the liberal lefties after Bush was elected.

http://www.voiceovertimes.com/wp-content/uploads/late-show-with-david-letterman.jpg

[Tyrone Bigguns]

no sour grapes like conservative sour grapes

Well you guys are the whine experts so you probably know your grapes.

And, this year is a vintage year for whining.

Do not even start with the bitterness and sour grapes stuff. Puleease! The Democrats and Liberals have been bitter for 8 years! Don't even get into asking for examples. No one has to look further than Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and Oliver Stone. I can't even think of a movie put out during the term of a sitting president that is as tasteless and offensive and W. is about Bush. Ty didn't you point out that W. was such a blockbuster success over a conservative movie? There are probably a million examples that could be given of the bitterness of the left from those in Hollywood to the politicians. The liberals and the left never treated Bush with respect. From everything I've seen and read most conservatives have been gracious towards Obama, even several on here. If some have a "we'll see" mentality, well that come with the business. At least a "we'll see" approach is better than the "were fucked" mentality of the liberal lefties after Bush was elected.

You really can't follow along can you. We have already been called whiners and experts in it and I didn't deny it. So, it is our purview to determine a vintage year. You are a bit dense.

Bush: Oh, right. There was no honeymoon after 9/11. And, after he was elected..and the election guff ended he wasn't even on the radar. Look at the polls from that time..he was looking like a one termer.

Movies: Oh, we want to go back to that. I thought you guys weren't interested in that after the spanking "an american carol" received. As for W, it has grossed 22 million..far more than "carol." It has also received good reveiws, though customers have given it lesser reviews. Not that i went and saw it.

W cost 25 mill to make..so we are looking right now at a break even..though since i like to be honest, that doesn't take into account distribution costs and marketing.

Stone is hit and miss when dealing with the presidential world. JFK grossed $70.4 million domestically in 1991/1992, yet Nixon did only $13.7 million in '95/'96. It's also worth considering that JFK was not a biopic like Nixon and W. were.