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RashanGary
11-12-2008, 06:30 PM
The Packers have a system that is flexible at the line of scrimmage. Rather than running into 8 or 9 in the box, they will consistently check into a pass. In theory, this is a great concept. Don't beat your head on the wall, right?

Well, the Vikings caught on. They brought several linebackers to the line, giving a man look outside. They knew the Packers would not run into their heavly line.

Knowing the Packers were not going to run, they sent their Dlineman relentlessly at the QB. If the Packers ran the ball, these lineman would have been out of their lanes and the Packers would have consistently gained yards, but Minnesota knew the Packers would not pass. That predictablity gave them ablity to send the horses and kill Rodgers. This is the same thing the Giants did to the Patriots and Brady kept trying to pass into a defense that was giving up the run at the expense of killing the QB with the knowledge that the offense would not run into certain looks. The result was the biggest underdog ever winning the SB.

Also, rather than blitzing the linebackers, they dropped them into short zones, to pick off slants. Rodgers did not throw picks, but looked to his next option. Because of the heavy line, the Packers were forced to leave Allen and Williams in one on one matchups. When the linebackers dropped into coverage, our protection schemes were not aligned to stop their best lineman, but instead were focused on the linebackers, which didn't end up rushing. It just confused us and put their best players in positions to succeed.


The bottom line was that Minnesota called a great game that took advantage of their best players and also took advantage of the Packers predictablity. They also set the Packers up by tricking them into a pass heavy game plan with the assumption Allen would be out. Had the Packers ran at the Vikings (false) heavy fronts, they would have churned out massive amounts of yardage. With the DL rushing up field and the linebackers moving backwards, holes would have been wide open and linebackers would have been moving backwards, not at all in tackling posiiton. Because we never adjusted we just got killed. We didn't break any big runs but still had almost 6 yards per carry. To run that well and only run it 16 times is a sin. The Packers held on to their "take what the defense is giving" philosophy just as Minnesota predicted. They never caught on to the fact that Minnesota was setting them up. This is why they lost. Hopefully they learn from this and become less predictable.

RashanGary
11-12-2008, 06:42 PM
What they should have done, was the same thing the Cowboys did to us earlier in the year when we were pass rushing on every play. The dropped back with that fake pass and then handed it off to Barbre with a draw.


We would have drawn them up field, watched their linebackers retreat, then gashed the piss out of them and warn them out with the run. They were not playing disaplined defense, but they didn't have to. Why should you play disaplined when all you have to do is pick the offenses play for them by showing a certain look at the line of scrimmage.

Freak Out
11-12-2008, 06:55 PM
"Massive amounts of yardage" is pushing it a bit but I agree we should have run more. That's what the draw play is designed to do right? I never really saw the Vikings D off balance...and that was bad for Rodgers. I'm surprised he made it out of there alive.

gbgary
11-12-2008, 07:21 PM
the Packers offense has got to get back to basics. exotic is killing them. it's hanging AR out to dry because of his lack of experience. the line needs help protecting him (keep a tight-end/fullback in), use more play-action (now that the run is starting to look/work better), less shot-gun (don't completely take the run out of the equation and invite the blitz with this formation). if you were a defensive coordinator how would you attack the Pack knowing what they do and who they are? of course...you blitz. teams are going to keep coming after AR as long as the Packers do nothing to counter it.

Partial
11-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Another thing you can say is stale, non-innovative play calling that did not change with the circumstances.

MM was outcoached. Plain and simple. It's really obvious what we're doing by how we line up. Some imagination would keep the D on their toes.

Tony Oday
11-13-2008, 11:51 AM
I would say 11 guys in the box and we had a better shot! ;)

Fritz
11-13-2008, 11:58 AM
This is an interesting analysis. I would think MM would see this in the game film.

gbgary
11-16-2008, 02:17 PM
the Packers offense has got to get back to basics. exotic is killing them. it's hanging AR out to dry because of his lack of experience. the line needs help protecting him (keep a tight-end/fullback in), use more play-action (now that the run is starting to look/work better), less shot-gun (don't completely take the run out of the equation and invite the blitz with this formation).


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Fosco33
11-16-2008, 02:29 PM
the Packers offense has got to get back to basics. exotic is killing them. it's hanging AR out to dry because of his lack of experience. the line needs help protecting him (keep a tight-end/fullback in), use more play-action (now that the run is starting to look/work better), less shot-gun (don't completely take the run out of the equation and invite the blitz with this formation).


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