Brian Orakpo

[Joemailman]

Will be the Packers first round selection. http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2009_NFL_Draft/brian_orakpo.htm

If the season ended today, the Pack would be selection somewhere between 9-11. Orakpo could be there. He has had an outstanding season, and can play 4-3 or 3-4, which could be important if the Pack changes DC's. He is not necessarily considered to be an elite athlete, so he probably won't rise up the draft boards out of the Packer's reach like Mario did.

[channtheman]

If he could be a dominant defensive end that would be a good start to fixing our defensive line. Maybe a good replacement for KGB.

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he would have to add 10-20 pounds to be an every down DE

[Deputy Nutz]

I decided to take a look at the draft eligible players. To a blind man the Packers need help at defensive end, tackle, and offensive tackle.

Maybe the Packers go safety.

Thompson will probably go wide receiver.

[Zool]

I would be fine with finding a stud safety early in the draft. Actually any position on D would be fine with me for the first...i dunno 16 picks.

[Joemailman]

Initially, he wouldn't have to play every down. He would play when Jenkins moves inside. There are a lot of DE's in the NFL that aren't all that big. Guys like Peppers are a rarity.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

Will be the Packers first round selection. http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2009_NFL_Draft/brian_orakpo.htm

If the season ended today, the Pack would be selection somewhere between 9-11. Orakpo could be there. He has had an outstanding season, and can play 4-3 or 3-4, which could be important if the Pack changes DC's. He is not necessarily considered to be an elite athlete, so he probably won't rise up the draft boards out of the Packer's reach like Mario did.

He will be once the combine arrives. The dude can bench press 510 lbs and runs a forty yard dash in the high 4.5's. He is going to shoot up draft boards.

He fits better into a 3-4 as a rush LB anyways, like a DeMarcus Ware. Plus, he would have to add some weight for TT to justify picking him 10th overall. TT is not going to draft a guy who is only good at one thing (rushing the passer) that high.

[RashanGary]

Everette Brown looks great to me. He has an impressive up-field speed rush but also mixes in a good counter spin move and rare club move. He's not huge (about 260 lbs) but he plays very powerfull and explosive. I'm sure he could gain 10 lbs in the NFL without losing much of his explosion. To me, Brown looks like the best DE in the draft. He'll probably go before we pick with our luck though.

[Deputy Nutz]

260-270 is probably the average size for defensive ends in the NFL. So if a guy comes in at 260 I am more than ok with that. Kampman goes maybe 270, and KGB was lucky to be 250. Most fall in between.

Again not many guys roaming around like Mario Williams and Julius Peppers.

Reggie White at 305 pounds was an absolute freak.

[Ballboy]

Not big enough, we would have another KGB vs Run.



NOW......if your talking about a switch to a 3-4 defense, by bringing in one of Dick Lebeau's coaches from Pittsburgh....you really might have something.

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Not big enough, we would have another KGB vs Run.



thats my fear with a DE around 250-255

[DonHutson]

There's also a 6-7 end from Georgia Tech that's supposed to be highly rated, Michael Johnson. He's about 260, but with that height I'd think he could put on a few pounds. Anyone watched him play this year?

For those looking for a run stuffer ESPN has Terrence Cody, a 6-4 375(!) pounder from Alabama rated in the top 15. If the guy has any kind of mobility at all, that's pretty scary.

There also looks to be several good OL at that point.

I guess the fact that I started looking up draft stuff last night says it all...

[DonHutson]

Not big enough, we would have another KGB vs Run.


Hopefully we've learned a lesson about leaving guys like that in on obvious run downs. If the guy can get to the QB, I don't care if he can stop the run. We'd just need someone to replace him on non-passing downs.

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For those looking for a run stuffer ESPN has Terrence Cody, a 6-4 375(!) pounder from Alabama rated in the top 15. If the guy has any kind of mobility at all, that's pretty scary.


all you need to know about mount cody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUE3Ys-qf6M&feature=related

for those keeping track, thats the center and the guard that he pushes back into the fullback, then dominates all three to kill the rb

[RashanGary]

Hell yeah, Red. I like Terrence Cody and Evrette Brown. One is a rare gigantic, powerfull DT and one is a complete pass rusher packed with size, explosion and a big time arsenal of moves and counter moves.


There are several others that are more or less specialists but I think there are two that sort of stand out as being great so far.

[DonHutson]

all you need to know about mount cody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUE3Ys-qf6M&feature=related



I guarantee you that guy's wallet is the one that says 'Bad Motherfucker' on it. My God...

If you're reading this thread, and you haven't checked out this link - YOU MUST DO IT! The guy looks like a dodge ball in a bowl of cherries!

But that's not all I need to know. I'd like to know about endurance, discipline, and injuries - all of which can plague a big guy like that. Still, that's an impressive piece of film.

[Noodle]

I'm bumming that I missed the FLA/Bama game, as I really wanted to see how Cody did against the Pounceys and Tebow. Anyone catch that? The guy seems unreal.

With Pickett in a seeming decline and Harrell in a constant incline, some manmuscle in the middle would be sweet.

[Noodle]

With Pickett in a seeming decline and Harrell in a constant incline, some manmuscle in the middle would be sweet.


umm, that didn't come out quite right, but you know what I mean.

Friggin pervs.

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i bet you'd like some man muscle

[Noodle]

i bet you'd like some man muscle

that's what she said . . .

wait, that didn't work so well either. I'm going to bed.

[gbgary]

i'd like them to get a speedy, qb-sacking, run-busting, pass-covering, ass-kicking, linebacker. is there one out there?

[steve823]

I was talking about him in my other tread before. Besdies him I like Terrence Cody. The dude is huge like 345. Thyey say he is like Kris Jenkins and we need someone like him to clog up the holes and help our run d. Anyways I wouldnt mind TT getting Orakpo and trading up to get Cody but I doubt it.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

Terrence Cody is no doubt a physical specimen. He's close to 350 lbs. and can dunk a freakin' basketball. :shock:

But with that said, his fundamentals aren't very sound and, as expected with someone that big, his endurance has been questioned.

The best decision for him would be to stay in school for another year. And he has already stated that he has informed Nick Saban that he will return.

[KYPack]

Let's draft Orakpo. We need a DL whose name sounds like a breakfast cereal.

Keep goin', you draftniks.

I don't look at NFLN and all the sites anymore.

I just read Rats and watch the YouTube stuff you guys post.

[steve823]

Well theres a shitload of talented O tackles this year so thats great news for us.

[steve823]

Oh yea and not this draft but the year after theres a center who supposedly will be one of the best..get this..hes a better prospect then mangold.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

Oh yea and not this draft but the year after theres a center who supposedly will be one of the best..get this..hes a better prospect then mangold.

Who are you talking about? There is a heckuva center coming out this year named Alex Mack from Cal. He should be one of the best center prospects in a long time. Possible first round talent, which for a center is unheard of.

[Freak Out]

From what I've read about this guy he seems suited for a NFL 3-4 rather than the D we run. He sounds like a freak though.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

From what I've read about this guy he seems suited for a NFL 3-4 rather than the D we run. He sounds like a freak though.

You got it. He's got the potential to be the next DeMarcus Ware type player. Not to say that he won't be good at 4-3 DE, but he needs to add a little more weight if he wants to be an All-Pro at that position. But he did put on around 50 lbs in his time at UT, so with the right nutritionists he just might.

[RashanGary]

I think Everette Brown is more impressive.

I like Orakpo but I'd rather have Everette Brown or Terrence Cody.

[Joemailman]

Most of the DE's coming out of college are in the 260 range. One notable exception is Tyson Jackson of LSU. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/prospects/tyson_jackson.html

I don't get to see much college ball until bowl season. Anyone seen him play?

The profile I provided the link to appears to have been made prior to this season.

[RashanGary]

Osi Umenyiora is 6'4" 261
Aaron Kampman is 6'4" 265
Michael Strahan is 6'5" 255
Justin Tuck (a bigger DE/DT) is 6'5" 274


Everette Brown is 6'4" 252 in college. He can easily weight 260 with one offseason in an NFL workout program. Watch Everette Brown play. Orakpo looks sort of OK off the line and when closing. Everette Brown looks like Kampman, Osi or Strahan. It jsut looks like you're watching and NFL stud. He's extremely explosive, strong, fast and tenacious. Everette Brown (assuming he's motivated) is going to be the next great NFL DE. Not only does he have all of the physical gifts, but he also ahs the biggest arsenal of pass rush moves that I've seen when watching this years class. He has a dominate speed rush, a tough to stop spin move and an impressive club. He's a stud. He's better than Orakpo if you look at the tape, the measurables or the numbers. He's better in every way.

[steve823]

I still want Terrence Cody...its like grady jacson but younger and with more potential. Hes still raw though and Im pretty sure hes sttaying for 1 more year.

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Never, ever, ever draft FSU linemen. Haven't we been over this?

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Osi Umenyiora is 6'4" 261
Aaron Kampman is 6'4" 265
Michael Strahan is 6'5" 255
Justin Tuck (a bigger DE/DT) is 6'5" 274


Everette Brown is 6'4" 252 in college. He can easily weight 260 with one offseason in an NFL workout program. Watch Everette Brown play. Orakpo looks sort of OK off the line and when closing. Everette Brown looks like Kampman, Osi or Strahan. It jsut looks like you're watching and NFL stud. He's extremely explosive, strong, fast and tenacious. Everette Brown (assuming he's motivated) is going to be the next great NFL DE. Not only does he have all of the physical gifts, but he also ahs the biggest arsenal of pass rush moves that I've seen when watching this years class. He has a dominate speed rush, a tough to stop spin move and an impressive club. He's a stud. He's better than Orakpo if you look at the tape, the measurables or the numbers. He's better in every way.

after watching all the highligh clips of all the top DE's everette definately is the one that stands out. he looks like he has a nonstop motor and is a beast against the pass and run