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woodbuck27
07-04-2006, 10:00 AM
Seau's career appears over

By: STEVE SCHOLFIELD - Senior Sports Columnist

This has to be the strangest month Junior Seau has experienced.

For the first time in his adult life, Seau enters July without being part of a football team.

It's beginning to look more and more as though Seau's distinguished NFL career is coming to an end. The only person who has not come to grips with that fact is Seau.


When we talked recently, Seau cautioned me, "There is no story with me. I know you are champing at the bit, but there is no story."

I disagree.

It's news when a 16-year veteran, a 12-time Pro Bowl selection and one of the most popular players to ever step on the field is unemployed on the eve of training camps.

It either tells me that Seau should realize that his career is over or that his skills have rusted to the point where no one wants him.

I asked, "Are you ready to announce your retirement?" Seau replied, "Steve, don't go negative on me."

Seau said that his agent Marvin Demoff, "is doing everything he can" to help him find employment. When I contacted Demoff's office seeking comment he did not return the call.

Maybe, sadly, Demoff has nothing to report.

This has to be an emotional time for the sensitive Seau, who has such a passion for the game that he never figured R-day (retirement day) would come.

But it happens to all athletes.

Former Carlsbad resident Mike Haynes is a Hall of Fame cornerback who knows what Seau is going through.

"Junior is like me, from the old school," Haynes said. "He thinks he's going to come back every year until they say you can't play anymore."

If any teams think the 37-year-old Seau has anything left in his tank, they aren't calling.

The similarities between Haynes and Seau are striking.

Haynes, who retired in 1989, played for 14 years, was a nine-time Pro Bowler and is in the Hall of Fame. Seau will join him in the Hall some day. Both are quality athletes who have overcome aches and pains, surgeries and grueling offseason workouts to become elite athletes.

The past two years have been particularly frustrating for Seau, who was shown the door by the Chargers after the 2002 season and ended up signing a three-year-deal with the Miami Dolphins.

Injuries started taking their toll. Seau missed eight games in '04 because of a torn pectoral muscle, and an Achilles injury shut him down for the final nine games last season. The Dolphins officially released him March 6.

Haynes, the NFL's vice president of player and employee development, did offer a ray of hope for Seau based on his own experience.

If he doesn't get picked up, Haynes suggested that Seau stay in shape and be on-call.

Haynes explained that both the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49ers wanted to bring him in after he retired. Seattle had Tom Flores, who was Haynes' former coach.

Recalled Haynes: "Tom told me, 'Mike, we'll call you if we get into the playoffs.' I said, 'Why don't you sign me now and help you get into the playoffs?' "

The call never came.

"And the 49ers' situation was that Ronnie Lott got hurt and they were looking for somebody to play safety, but he came back from his injuries," Haynes said.

Haynes did offer Seau two other nuggets of wisdom ---- become a mentor to younger players and don't hassle over a contract.

"If someone wants to give Junior the league minimum, he should probably take it," Haynes said. "Outside of football, you will never find a job that is going to pay him that kind of money."

The league minimum for Seau is about $812,000, but only half of it would count toward the salary cap.

"If someone wants to bring him in to teach younger players about the right attitude and having a good work ethic, he should jump on it," Haynes said.

I think Seau would, if only the phone would ring.

Harlan Huckleby
07-04-2006, 10:33 AM
Sounds like the Hardy Nickerson Story - one more year.

woodbuck27
07-04-2006, 10:55 AM
Sounds like the Hardy Nickerson Story - one more year.

This would be his 17th season in the NFL.

After he departed San Diego for Miami he was in 30 games the past three season's. he played 15 games in 2003 with 96 tackles (66 solo), 3 sacks and 3 pass defenced.

The past two seasons he has experienced injuries and appeared in only 15 games over the course of 2004-05. Yet combined he had 93 tackles (49 solo), 2 sacks and defended 2 pass's.

He also should have a load of leadership ability and could be considered as a LBer coach in the future.

It would cost us $800 K (half that against the cap ) and when it's all weighed we likly don't need him.

It's just . . . one of those . . . what do ya think of the idea sorta things.

GoPackGo
07-04-2006, 11:42 AM
last year I would have said yes. this year? not so much

woodbuck27
07-04-2006, 11:58 AM
last year I would have said yes. this year? not so much

No upside or future with Junior Seau now. What an outdtanding career he had.

BallHawk
07-04-2006, 12:35 PM
Yeah, he could bring leadership, but we already have that in Barnett and hopefully Hawk. It's just one of those things where he has to come to realize his NFL career is probably over.

woodbuck27
07-04-2006, 03:07 PM
Yeah, he could bring leadership, but we already have that in Barnett and hopefully Hawk. It's just one of those things where he has to come to realize his NFL career is probably over.

It's looking that way but someone may give him that last year and if his health permits it , he has the savvy.

The Leaper
07-04-2006, 11:43 PM
By adding Hawk, Hodge and Taylor...there's no room for Seau. Save the money because we likely will need veteran help somewhere on offense this season...OL, RB, or WR.

woodbuck27
07-06-2006, 09:49 PM
By adding Hawk, Hodge and Taylor...there's no room for Seau. Save the money because we likely will need veteran help somewhere on offense this season...OL, RB, or WR.

That's a BIG - for sure.

the_idle_threat
07-07-2006, 11:40 AM
Maybe Houston would give him a try, but they're too busy negotiating a deal with Torrance Marshall.

Mazzin
07-07-2006, 12:13 PM
Screw Torance Marshall, all the potental, and just NOTHING, i mean come one MAN!

I say its a no go on Junior here guys!

woodbuck27
07-07-2006, 12:19 PM
Screw Torance Marshall, all the potental, and just NOTHING, i mean come one MAN!

I say its a no go on Junior here guys!

That's it then Mazzin. He's out!

Maybe we could help him with a wild rumor, he's destined for Green Bay with a lending support from PFT and get Mike Sherman's ears perked.

Suddenly. . he's a Texan.

Tony Oday
07-07-2006, 02:56 PM
I'd Take Junior. Cmon young talented corp with pimp arse ex player. Savy guy sure not a starter anymore but definately a camp presence. I say vet minimum or offer him a coaching job :)

woodbuck27
07-07-2006, 03:17 PM
I'd Take Junior. Cmon young talented corp with pimp arse ex player. Savy guy sure not a starter anymore but definately a camp presence. I say vet minimum or offer him a coaching job :)

That is what I was thinking also but we have more need at other positions.

First priorities now. Vet at Guard,WR.

Tony Oday
07-07-2006, 03:19 PM
I agree I want a vet guard and a WR but what are we going to find at WR now? nadda. Guard well there is always the O'Dywer types out there. Junior sign him up.

AtlPackFan
07-07-2006, 03:41 PM
I say no...not even at the league minimum. This is a team in rebuild...no sense adding a relic from the past as we did with Nickerson.

Tony Oday
07-07-2006, 03:43 PM
Ya because we have so much experience at LB we dont need any...

OS PA
07-07-2006, 05:50 PM
Can he rush the passer? Could he be a specialist for a year or two in order to rotate with Kampman? Older players lose speed, yes, but does he still have the strength and power to play?

Probably not.

If we were a 3/4 i'd say hell sign him, but with only room for 3 lb's and 4 or 5 solid prospects at the position we have no room.

No Junior.

woodbuck27
07-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Can he rush the passer? Could he be a specialist for a year or two in order to rotate with Kampman? Older players lose speed, yes, but does he still have the strength and power to play?

Probably not.

If we were a 3/4 i'd say hell sign him, but with only room for 3 lb's and 4 or 5 solid prospects at the position we have no room.

No Junior.


We have more pressing needs.

OS PA
07-08-2006, 05:44 PM
The only more pressing needs I see are on the offensive side of the ball, and Junior Seau is a defensive player. I was simply saying if we could use what he has left in the tank in a different manner he'd be a hell of a pick up, but as of now I don't think he would be an upgrade over any of our LB prospects. We could bring him in as an advisor, much like we brought in Gannon, but if I remember correctly wasn't our linebacker coach one of the more wanted assistant coaches in the league? I think there was an article back when we signed him saying that he was a huge pick-up. As I said before, I see no use to signing Seau, unless we can somehow put him on the practice squad(Which I don't think is even a possibility rules-wise).

More pressing needs yes, but Seau can't play Wide-reciever or along the O-Line. He might be able to double as a fullback or option halfback, but I don't think his 37 year old body could hold up against getting tackled

Back to your post woodbuck, what defensive pressing needs to you see Seau helping?

woodbuck27
07-08-2006, 05:57 PM
The only more pressing needs I see are on the offensive side of the ball, and Junior Seau is a defensive player. I was simply saying if we could use what he has left in the tank in a different manner he'd be a hell of a pick up, but as of now I don't think he would be an upgrade over any of our LB prospects. We could bring him in as an advisor, much like we brought in Gannon, but if I remember correctly wasn't our linebacker coach one of the more wanted assistant coaches in the league? I think there was an article back when we signed him saying that he was a huge pick-up. As I said before, I see no use to signing Seau, unless we can somehow put him on the practice squad(Which I don't think is even a possibility rules-wise).

More pressing needs yes, but Seau can't play Wide-reciever or along the O-Line. He might be able to double as a fullback or option halfback, but I don't think his 37 year old body could hold up against getting tackled

Back to your post woodbuck, what defensive pressing needs to you see Seau helping?

My thoughts are that he is a real class act and might be attained primarily as an advisor and eventual coach.

I agree with you that we are too strong at LBer or have no pressing need for Junior there, but he has such status and might be utilized to mentor the entire defence .Certainly the LBers and DL.

woodbuck27
07-10-2006, 01:17 PM
NFL Great Touts Value of Hard Work

Junior Seau also tellsa Kitsap County audience that he probably will officially retire soon.

By Jeff Graham, For the Kitsap Sun
July 9, 2006

"To be able to do great things in life, you have to work."

Those words, spoken by NFL linebacker Junior Seau, resonated in the minds of roughly 100 people who gathered for a fund-raising luncheon Saturday afternoon at the Harborside Conference Center in Bremerton.

Players and coaches from six area high schools — Bremerton, North Kitsap, Central Kitsap, South Kitsap, Olympic and Klahowya — attended the three-hour event organized by Russ Robison, president of Robison Plumbing in Bremerton and a regular contributor to the Junior Seau Foundation.

Seau served as Saturday’s featured speaker. The 16-year NFL veteran did not disappoint.

Taking to the podium following passionate speeches by Bremerton Mayor Cary Bozeman and former Washington State University director of medicine Mark Smaha, Seau challenged the young players in attendance to strive to reach their goals.

"I have failed more than I’ve succeeded in my life," said Seau, who played 13 seasons with the San Diego Chargers from 1990-2002 and three seasons with the Miami Dolphins from 2003-05. "The difference is I have never quit."

Seau did have his opportunity.

Seau said he was a backup at the University of Southern California all the way through his senior year, until injuries forced him into the Trojans’ starting lineup. He finished the 1989 season with 19 sacks, earning All-American status despite starting just five games.

The next June, the Chargers picked Seau in the first round of the 1990 NFL Draft.

Sixteen years, 12 Pro Bowl appearances and 1,566 tackles later, Seau credits hard work for prolonging his career.

"If you don’t work, you are going to fail," he said.

After his address, Seau fielded several questions from the audience on subjects ranging from Terrell Owens to Ryan Leaf to life after football.

Regarding the latter, Seau said he plans to hold a press conference within the next two weeks announcing his likely retirement. With the end of his career on the field drawing near, Seau sounded eager to continue his efforts in charity.

"I’m blessed to be where I am," Seau said. "I’ve got a great opportunity to do some great things because of the game of football."