Playoffs Live Games Thread

[Rastak]

Well, it all starts shortly. Looking forward to this first matchup.....I like Atlanta's run game, but with Boldin back in should be an interesting matchup.

[pbmax]

Atlanta has been a mixed bag on the road, of course, the Packers are one of the pelts they got on the road. This is one game where I think conventional wisdom is giving the new team too much credit, but the NFC West was dreck. How about a Donovan McNabb style tie? :lol:

[Rastak]

Atlanta has been a mixed bag on the road, of course, the Packers are one of the pelts they got on the road. This is one game where I think conventional wisdom is giving the new team too much credit, but the NFC West was dreck. How about a Donovan McNabb style tie? :lol:


The Vikings actually outplayed both of these teams but fumbled away the game against Atlanta.

[mission]

I was just gonna say "Go Falcons!" but then ... um ... ya ... int

[Rastak]

I was just gonna say "Go Falcons!" but then ... um ... ya ... int


Not a very good play by Ryan.

[retailguy]

go cardinals. How can you not root for them?

[Rastak]

Nice F'ing catch by Fitz!

[Partial]

What a great grab by Fitz.

[Rastak]

What a great grab by Fitz.



Nice throw too.......Warner laid it right where it had to be.

[denverYooper]

Damn. Cards D is kickin' ass so far.

[Brando19]

Cardinals will lose.

[Rastak]

Cardinals will lose.


You consult your magic eightball?

[Brando19]

Cardinals will lose.


You consult your magic eightball?

I'm just that damn good. Vegas calls me all the time.

[Rastak]

Cardinals will lose.


You consult your magic eightball?

I'm just that damn good. Vegas calls me all the time.


Trying collect what you owe them I bet. :wink:

[Brando19]

Cardinals will lose.


You consult your magic eightball?

I'm just that damn good. Vegas calls me all the time.


Trying collect what you owe them I bet. :wink:

Haha...you got me this time, Ras...

[Rastak]

Atlanta should win but they looked real tight in the first quarter....they seem to have settled down now.

[Brando19]

Atlanta should win but they looked real tight in the first quarter....they seem to have settled down now.

I guess you could expect it from a rookie QB. I think Ryan will be one of the elite QB's in the league for years to come.

[Rastak]

Atlanta should win but they looked real tight in the first quarter....they seem to have settled down now.

I guess you could expect it from a rookie QB. I think Ryan will be one of the elite QB's in the league for years to come.


I agree, he looks very poised and has a nice touch on the ball.

[Brando19]

I wonder if the Cards will dump Warner and go with Leinart after this season or if they'll extend Warner and trade Leinart? Leinart's bound to get tired of riding the bench.

[Rastak]

I wonder if the Cards will dump Warner and go with Leinart after this season or if they'll extend Warner and trade Leinart? Leinart's bound to get tired of riding the bench.


Leinart better start playing better. Smart teams don't just hand the job to a guy regardless of how he performs.

Interesting question though, I wonder how many years Leinart has on his rookie deal.

[pbmax]

Cardinals show how to not take advantage of a fast start. One bad turnover and the Falcons are back on top.

[Rastak]

Cardinals show how to not take advantage of a fast start. One bad turnover and the Falcons are back on top.


Falcons have really settled down and they are looking good. If they can start running the ball consistently I like their chances.

[Rastak]

Quite a crowd here for the playoffs....

[denverYooper]

The see-saw has rocked back. 28-17 Cards.

[Rastak]

Cards have played a really nice game....gonna go down to the wire though.

[Rastak]

How can the Falcons leave the TE so wide open.....yikes....might have cost them the game.

[denverYooper]

How can the Falcons leave the TE so wide open.....yikes....might have cost them the game.

It did. Victory formation in effect.

[Lurker64]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?

[denverYooper]

Warner made some nice plays to put the game away.

[Rastak]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


They were always dangerous. They played the defense needed to win and didn' have a bunch of turnovers. They have some fantastic receivers and Warner is certainly playing well all year.

[denverYooper]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?

Yes.

[Bretsky]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


A nice performance by AZ

What is dangerous IMO is Warner's life when he has to face the pass rush of the Giants or Panthers. I think somebody will crush them next week

[denverYooper]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


A nice performance by AZ

What is dangerous IMO is Warner's life when he has to face the pass rush of the Giants or Panthers. I think somebody will crush them next week

They'll play the Giants in NJ next, no? They have a worse record (9-7) than MN (10-6) and PHI (9-6-1). Their passing attack will be harder to pull off in the Meadowlands.

[Rastak]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


A nice performance by AZ

What is dangerous IMO is Warner's life when he has to face the pass rush of the Giants or Panthers. I think somebody will crush them next week

They'll play the Giants in NJ next, no? They have a worse record (9-7) than MN (10-6) and PHI (9-6-1). Their passing attack will be harder to pull off in the Meadowlands.


Yes, they go to NY.

[arcilite]

If the Eagles win.. the Eagles play the Giants.


It isnt based on record, its based on seed.

[Lurker64]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


A nice performance by AZ

What is dangerous IMO is Warner's life when he has to face the pass rush of the Giants or Panthers. I think somebody will crush them next week

They'll play the Giants in NJ next, no? They have a worse record (9-7) than MN (10-6) and PHI (9-6-1). Their passing attack will be harder to pull off in the Meadowlands.


Yes, they go to NY.

As I understand it, they reseed every round, so who the Cardinals (the four seed) play depends on who wins between Philly and Minny. If the Vikes (#3 seed) win, Minnesota plays Carolina and Arizona plays the Giants. If the Eagles (#6 seed) win, Philly plays the Giants and Arizona plays Carolina.

Record doesn't matter, so much as seeding. As division champs, they may be seeded ahead of teams with better records. Unless this changed recently.

[Rastak]

So, is this Cardinals performance an aberration, or are they suddenly dangerous?


A nice performance by AZ

What is dangerous IMO is Warner's life when he has to face the pass rush of the Giants or Panthers. I think somebody will crush them next week

They'll play the Giants in NJ next, no? They have a worse record (9-7) than MN (10-6) and PHI (9-6-1). Their passing attack will be harder to pull off in the Meadowlands.


Yes, they go to NY.

As I understand it, they reseed every round, so who the Cardinals (the four seed) play depends on who wins between Philly and Minny. If the Vikes (#3 seed) win, Minnesota plays Carolina and Arizona plays the Giants. If the Eagles (#6 seed) win, Philly plays the Giants and Arizona plays Carolina.

Record doesn't matter, so much as seeding. As division champs, they may be seeded ahead of teams with better records. Unless this changed recently.



Sorry, yes you are both correct.

I still say they go to NY. :wink:

[pbmax]

I can safely say I did not expect that kind of stout rush defense from the Cardinals in the first half. Home field advantage gave them a nice pass rush boost too.

[Rastak]

I can safely say I did not expect that kind of stout rush defense from the Cardinals in the first half. Home field advantage gave them a nice pass rush boost too.


Yea, that's what won them the game. Nicely played defense.

[Rastak]

Yikes, nice YAK by Gonzalez.

[Lurker64]

Indy is struggling less in San Diego than they usually do there.

[denverYooper]

That was one hell of a punt by Scifres. 67 yards, landed at the 5.

[GrnBay007]

Must be the end of the season blues.....I didn't even turn a game on today or look to see who was playing. In fact I went in to work for about 5 hours and put files together. That's pretty bad!

[denverYooper]

And a subpar punt by Indy. "Smith's kick bounces at the Colt 45".

I once bounced from a Colt 45.

[packinpatland]

Must be the end of the season blues.....I didn't even turn a game on today or look to see who was playing. In fact I went in to work for about 5 hours and put files together. That's pretty bad!

Same here.........just turned the TV on.

[MJZiggy]

If it makes you feel any better, I took my kid to the movies today...

[Bretsky]

If it makes you feel any better, I took my kid to the movies today...


me too; I saw Bolt

[MJZiggy]

If it makes you feel any better, I took my kid to the movies today...


me too; I saw Bolt

Hey, me too! How'd you like it?

[Brando19]

If it makes you feel any better, I took my kid to the movies today...


me too; I saw Bolt

Hey, me too! How'd you like it?

I was going to go see 7 pounds til i found out what it was about.

[Bretsky]

If it makes you feel any better, I took my kid to the movies today...


me too; I saw Bolt

Hey, me too! How'd you like it?


Actually liked it a lot for a kids movie.

[denverYooper]

Holy smokes. Sproles with 328 combined yards.

[Freak Out]

From the ashes rise the Chargers. I thought they were dead and Norv had blown another one but wow.....these guys have some serious fight in them.

[pack4to84]

So with both home teams winning on Saturday does that mean both road teams win on Sunday?

[pack4to84]

Holy smokes. Sproles with 328 combined yards.he is a FA this year too. Big pay day coming now.

[Rastak]

So with both home teams winning on Saturday does that mean both road teams win on Sunday?


No, the prediction was all road teams win for the weekend so it turns out all home teams will win.

[Rastak]

Well, I'll be heading out shortly to catch the Phins game near the dome and then off to the game. Assuming any of you guys are actually watching the playoffs instead of going to movies, enjoy the games.

[MJZiggy]

Well, I'll be heading out shortly to catch the Phins game near the dome and then off to the game. Assuming any of you guys are actually watching the playoffs instead of going to movies, enjoy the games.

Hey!! That was a damn fine film!!!!

[Pugger]

I don't think the Cardinals are all that dangerous. Atlanta's QB played like the rookie he is yesterday. If AZ has to go to a cold weather stadium next week like they did against NE not that long ago AZ might be in trouble.

Indy's D couldn't stop SD in overtime so they are one and done too. It ain't easy winning on the road in the playoffs.

[GrnBay007]

Ok, I turned the game on.

Aren't those dolphins cute they show during the commercial breaks! :D

[channtheman]

Jim Leonhard has always just played football. The Bills cut him even though he got interceptions like that in preseason games for them. I'm glad he is finally getting a shot to play in the NFL.

[pbmax]

I cannot believe Ed Hochuli and crew made the playoffs. He looked like the battered red-headed, well toned step son of Jeff Triplette in the last Packer game he did. It seemed like a down season for Guns after the Denver-San Diego debacle.

That said, I truly believe that this limited edition Packers team could beat any team playing this weekend on the road.

Just call me wisconsinpackerbacker.

[Pacopete4]

damnit does Miami suck... i wish either the Patriots or Jets had gotten in.. the feel good story is over... the Dolphins will suck, Parcells will move onto another team, and Penningtons noodle arm will be back in discussion.. good run for these guys though

[channtheman]

Pennington's play in this game reminds me of Favre's performance against the Vikings a few years ago (2004 I think). The Dolphins are in the game but their QB can't help but throw these poorly thrown balls in the air.

[Pacopete4]

LETS GOOOOOOO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!![/b][/i][/u]

[GrnBay007]

Good luck to the Vikings ....for our friend Rastak! :D

[Pacopete4]

Good luck to the Vikings ....for our friend Rastak! :D


NO! NO! NO!

[GrnBay007]

:D be nice! lol

[Pacopete4]

i just cant.. all my friends are viking fans and i cannot handle them chirpin at me anymore haha

[GrnBay007]

i just cant.. all my friends are viking fans and i cannot handle them chirpin at me anymore haha

Wow, things suck for you these days....viking friends chirping at you, come here and BF dislikers chirping at you.... lol J/k :P

[Pacopete4]

i just cant.. all my friends are viking fans and i cannot handle them chirpin at me anymore haha

Wow, things suck for you these days....viking friends chirping at you, come here and BF dislikers chirping at you.... lol J/k :P


haha, ya it hasnt been a fun football season. Damn Brett had to get hurt and go in the shitter the last month of the season... about the only thing I had going for me


plus Badgers football is back to being embarrasing

[Bretsky]

I'd have no problems seeing the Vikings win either; they've made some nice moves lately to improve that team

[Pacopete4]

Ya, I agree. They have busted their ass to win games in the offseason using every resource they have. Even though it was said to not of happened, I really believe they did try to get Favre which to me is f'in lame as a packer fan, but at least from their point of view, they are trying to get the best players available to them.


but i still dont want them to win :lol:

[Pacopete4]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D

[Pacopete4]

Dawkins will be getting a fine for that helmet to helmet against AP

[Fosco33]

I cannot believe Ed Hochuli and crew made the playoffs. He looked like the battered red-headed, well toned step son of Jeff Triplette in the last Packer game he did. It seemed like a down season for Guns after the Denver-San Diego debacle.

His crew was rated 1st overall.... seems like they still have the best guys.

[Pacopete4]

I cannot believe Ed Hochuli and crew made the playoffs. He looked like the battered red-headed, well toned step son of Jeff Triplette in the last Packer game he did. It seemed like a down season for Guns after the Denver-San Diego debacle.

His crew was rated 1st overall.... seems like they still have the best guys.


I was just discussing this with my dad at dinner and we both agreed that its right that he got to ref. It was a mistake, a big one, but ya know what.. shit happens. Players, coaches, GMs, commissioners, owners make mistakes so if a ref does its different?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd have no problems seeing the Vikings win either; they've made some nice moves lately to improve that team

I hate you!

[Brando19]

I'd have no problems seeing the Vikings win either; they've made some nice moves lately to improve that team


Viking lovin' son of a bitch.

[GBRulz]

I'd have no problems seeing the Vikings win either; they've made some nice moves lately to improve that team

OMG, are you people crazy? I think I'd rather root for the Bears than the Queens.

[Pacopete4]

16-14 Jeff Feagles... i mean Eagles



anyone else feel like Minny-haha shouldnt be in this game even?

[GBRulz]

Is it just me or that is that horn the most annoying noise ever?

[Pacopete4]

Is it just me or that is that horn the most annoying noise ever?


they probably say they same thing about our go pack go crap

[packers11]

Hopefully T-Jacks throws 1 more INT for a TD to Asante...

[Pacopete4]

damnit.. almost another TO

[channtheman]

Refs called a BS hold call on the Eagles on the punt to push them to the 5. Seriously what do these guys think they see? Eagles marching down the field now, though.

[Pacopete4]

field goals arent gonna cut it.. get ur shit together mcnabb/westbrook and get it in the endzone and put some real pressure on that dumbass QB they have

[packinpatland]

God......I hate it when you get invited over to someone's house and they won't turn on the game.....because the Pats aren't playing. :evil:
Just tuned in......
I'm actually cheering for the Vikings. I'd like to see a NFC North team take it this year......so next year the Packers can continue the trend. :wink:

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sad play. Jackson with a punt return. He's on the sideline, but there's just one guy there. It's the punter. He runs out of bounds.

[Pacopete4]

sack by allen! laaaame

wish we had the nuts to go after a stud player

[Pacopete4]

Sad play. Jackson with a punt return. He's on the sideline, but there's just one guy there. It's the punter. He runs out of bounds.

whats funny about it though is that punter is probably more physical than jackson

[packers11]

It seems like all the players from the other team talk shit to Childress...

[Pacopete4]

if the eagles dbacks had hands.. this game would be over

[packers11]

if the eagles dbacks had hands.. this game would be over

I know... I hope to god T-Jacks is back next year... They somehow win despite of his shitty play...

[Pacopete4]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!

[packers11]

GAME OVERRRRRR!!!

[Lurker64]

That screen to Westbrook was some of the most beautiful downfield blocking I have ever seen. Almost all of the credit there goes to the blockers, Westbrook didn't have to work real hard.

[packers11]

and the BOOO birds start raining down on that Vikings offense...

[digitaldean]

Is it just me or that is that horn the most annoying noise ever?

It's that and the stupid cat growl you hear from the other kitty teams (Penn State, Detroit, or Carolina).

Seems like they did for anything positive. (surprising they didn't do that on Westbrook's screen play for a TD) :lol:

[imscott72]

This one should be over. Glad to see the Vikes get bounced. Sorry Ras.. :D

[red]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer

[packers11]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer

No... I hope not... It gives the packers a better chance to win the North next year... :lol:

[Pacopete4]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer


enter Favre... jets will cut him and his 13 million on the cap.. and he'll join the vikes

[imscott72]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer

No he's not. We can only hope since they made the playoffs him and Chilly get one more year.

[imscott72]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer


enter Favre... jets will cut him and his 13 million on the cap.. and he'll join the vikes

Who cares at this point. Favre is not what he used to be and I'm not sure the Vikes want the media circus that would follow, but whatever. I really could care less if they sign him.

[Pacopete4]

someone in that organization needs to realize that t-jack is not the answer


enter Favre... jets will cut him and his 13 million on the cap.. and he'll join the vikes

Who cares at this point. Favre is not what he used to be and I'm not sure the Vikes want the media circus that would follow, but whatever. I really could care less if they sign him.


You'd care when they're thrashing through the NFC. Hell with a qb like Favre, Rodgers, Manning, Rivers, any of those top of the line dudes... hell have McNabb switch teams in this game and the vikes dominate the shit outta the eagles...

[Pacopete4]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D





hmmm..... :lol:

[red]

i think the queens should go after someone like cassell

he'll be franchised, but the queens seem to not have a problem trading draft picks if they have to

[Brando19]

i think the queens should go after someone like cassell

he'll be franchised, but the queens seem to not have a problem trading draft picks if they have to

According to an ESPN report, he was franchised today.

[Pacopete4]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D





hmmm..... :lol:



come on... no love? thats like a dead on report of what happened in this game... ive never came so close before

[red]

i think the queens should go after someone like cassell

he'll be franchised, but the queens seem to not have a problem trading draft picks if they have to

According to an ESPN report, he was franchised today.

thats what i ment

the queens would probably be willing to trade for him

[Brando19]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D





hmmm..... :lol:

Very good. Not bad at all.



come on... no love? thats like a dead on report of what happened in this game... ive never came so close before

[GrnBay007]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D





hmmm..... :lol:

Nice job Paco. And now you can tell your friends to kiss off too! lol

[Guiness]

i think the queens should go after someone like cassell

he'll be franchised, but the queens seem to not have a problem trading draft picks if they have to

According to an ESPN report, he was franchised today.

wow - that's interesting. What is really going on with Brady? Are they looking for a starter for next year?

Is he really worth that much, even if NE were to start him? I mean, the QB franchise tag has to be worth $13mil, I'm guessing (I can think of 4-5 QB's in the league that made that this year). Or is there a team desperate enough to do a sign and trade?

I guess I'm thinking this guy is a bit more of a proven commodity in the NFL than a college QB. If I was a GM looking for a starting QB, I'd give up my first rounder for him. Or if I was Det, my 2nd rounder. (maybe 2 and 3, which are basically a 1st and 2nd?)

[Brando19]

i know the game has started but I'm gonna say 27-13 final in favor of the eagles...

vikes struggle with QBs that are athletic and struggle with RBs that can catch outta the backfield and I just think their offense is worth only 13 points against a pretty good D





hmmm..... :lol:





come on... no love? thats like a dead on report of what happened in this game... ive never came so close before
Very good. Not bad at all.

[Partial]

Good game. The Vikes future is looking bright imo, so thats something to look forward to Ras.

Eagles are looking pretty good defensively right now. Lito Sheppard is their 4th corner. That's sick.

Anybody see the quick shot of a trainer holding down Samual by his shoulders, and another trainer yanking on his leg? Gross! Seems like they were trying to pop his hip back into place or something.

[Fosco33]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.

[Rastak]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.

[Bretsky]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

[imscott72]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

[Brando19]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?


Because it's Chilly! As long as he's there...he'll find a way to F it up.

[mngolf19]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

Because Frerotte is worse. I'm thinking the Vikes go after someone in FA. Warner is available, McNabb is but I don't want him. If not, they may try to trade up in draft to get someone if there is a decent one available.

[mngolf19]

Is it just me or that is that horn the most annoying noise ever?


they probably say they same thing about our go pack go crap

Yes, we do. :wink:

[Rastak]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.


Frerotte was healthy two weeks ago. This isn't breaking news. Also, if you look at the two games before he got hurt, Frerotte was absolutely awful. He's also a statue in the pocket. That's why he got a reserved spot on the bench.

Jackson was very good against the Lions, great against the Cards. About average against the Falcons. A bit below average against the Giants and absolutely shitty today.

I expected his mobility might help against the blitzes but he never took off and run until the game was over. Would Frerotte have been better? Probably since it couldn't have been worse.

[cpk1994]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

Because Frerotte is worse. I'm thinking the Vikes go after someone in FA. Warner is available, McNabb is but I don't want him. If not, they may try to trade up in draft to get someone if there is a decent one available.McNabb isn't. He is under contract through 2010.

[Fosco33]

Gus was 8-3 (making TJack 2-3; now 2-4) as a starter....

[pbmax]

Sorry Ras and Golf, it sucks twice as bad to lose a playoff game. Seemed like a great atmosphere from the noise over the TV, I think the late ticket buyers did their part. No jokes today, the season's end is never funny. Unless you are the Lions. :lol:

[Rastak]

Before they squeeked into the playoffs word was he would be available via trade. He still might since he wants a new contract and Philly wanted to get started on the Kolb era.

With playoff success, he very well not be on the market now.

[Lurker64]

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

I think T. Jack is one of those quarterbacks that, if not a coach killer, will cause any coach more hirsute than Childress to pull his hair out. Since, I don't know if this is just youth or inexperience or what, but he's amazingly inconsistent. One game he'll look amazing, and throw for three hundred yards and four touchdowns and three games later he'll look like he's entirely unfamiliar with the quarterback position.

You start Jackson because you hope you're going to get that game where he's really, really on. You're afraid to start Jackson, because you might get that game where he's really, really off.

I don't think he should be the starting QB for Minnesota next year.

[Rastak]

Sorry Ras and Golf, it sucks twice as bad to lose a playoff game. Seemed like a great atmosphere from the noise over the TV, I think the late ticket buyers did their part. No jokes today, the season's end is never funny. Unless you are the Lions. :lol:



Fans were rockin and definately did their part.

[mngolf19]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

Because Frerotte is worse. I'm thinking the Vikes go after someone in FA. Warner is available, McNabb is but I don't want him. If not, they may try to trade up in draft to get someone if there is a decent one available.McNabb isn't. He is under contract through 2010.

I don't think that is right. They talk about McNabb being gone all the time after this season. You sure? Most of the Bears fans down here are hoping the Bears go after him.

[Rastak]

Lurker nailed it.


edit: golf, see my post above.....all the McNabb speculation is based on a trade.

[cpk1994]

Eagles are playing really well and will give the Giants trouble next weekend (Giants haven't been hot lately).

Jackson is not the answer for the Vikes. And I'm thinking their DCoor is gonna get some views for head coach which will put the Vikes in the same position as the Pack (looking for a coordinator, maybe changing schemes).

Sorry, Ras. At least your team got to be 'one and done'... better than neverwas.


Thanks Fos. Just got back, fans were really rockin the place but the Vikings couldn't overcome jackson whose played steadily worse since he was restored as starter. Eagles are a really tough defense and hats off to them. They played hard and McNabb made some nice plays under pressure.


Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.



I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.

Ferotte was healthy? Why the F would Chilly go with Jackson?

Because Frerotte is worse. I'm thinking the Vikes go after someone in FA. Warner is available, McNabb is but I don't want him. If not, they may try to trade up in draft to get someone if there is a decent one available.McNabb isn't. He is under contract through 2010.

I don't think that is right. They talk about McNabb being gone all the time after this season. You sure? Most of the Bears fans down here are hoping the Bears go after him.Yes he is under contract through 2010 as both reported by FOX and the NFL Network. But the sentiment is that Donovan wants out and will demand to be traded.

[RashanGary]

Health always plays a part. The Vikes were a very, very good team this year. They had some weakness, but they were very strong on defense and that run game. Injuries hurt them down the stretch but they did have the pieces in place before the injuries.

The Packers could learn a thing or two from the Vikings offensive and defensive lines.

[pbmax]

FLorio at PFT has a blog post about Lurie talking to the Boston media (why Boston? no idea) and one of the things he said was that he was definitely interested in McNabb's return.

[Rastak]

Health always plays a part. The Vikes were a very, very good team this year. They had some weakness, but they were very strong on defense and with the run game. Injuries hurt them down the stretch but they did have the pieces in place before the injuries.

The Packers could learn a thing or two from the Vikings offensive and defensive lines.


They have to get a friggen QB though. Either they get some retread every year or they trot out Jackson who swings wildly from good to putird, usually staying more on the negative side.

[Rastak]

FLorio at PFT has a blog post about Lurie talking to the Boston media (why Boston? no idea) and one of the things he said was that he was definitely interested in McNabb's return.


Yea, with a playoff run they almost have to now...



damn!

[Pacopete4]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?

[Rastak]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?


He'd have been better than what they had this year but I think he'll retire.

[Guiness]

I'm surpised Jackson saw the playing field with Ferotte healthy.


Frerotte was healthy two weeks ago. This isn't breaking news. Also, if you look at the two games before he got hurt, Frerotte was absolutely awful. He's also a statue in the pocket. That's why he got a reserved spot on the bench.

Jackson was very good against the Lions, great against the Cards. About average against the Falcons. A bit below average against the Giants and absolutely shitty today.

I expected his mobility might help against the blitzes but he never took off and run until the game was over. Would Frerotte have been better? Probably since it couldn't have been worse.

Geez though, doesn't anyone believe in the old adage to use what got you there?

Frerotte won 8 games this year. You could be foolish and say what got you there is the AP and the Williams, but that would be blind and foolish. TJack had them, and he found a way to lose.

Starting Tavaris is the worst decision since some dough head in Buffalo put Rob Johnston in for a playoff game over Doug Flutie, based on a stellar performance in week 16 against a team that had wrapped up a first round bye...

[cpk1994]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?


He'd have been better than what they had this year but I think he'll retire.And if the Vikes are wise, they won't touch Favre with a 50ft pole. That is a media circus that Chiily doesn't need. Besides the Jets won't release him anyway, so that is a moot point.

[Lurker64]

They have to get a friggen QB though. Either they get some retread every year or they trot out Jackson who swings wildly from good to putird, usually staying more on the negative side.

The reports of the Pats franchising Cassell lead me to believe that they'll be fishing for a Herschel Walker sized truckload of draft picks for one of the two. If I were a Vikings fan, this would make me an odd combination of nervous and optimistic.

[Guiness]

Vikes defense was good but were on the field WAY too much in the second half.

See who the Eagles OC is? Marty Mornhinweg, former Pack offensive coach (in '96), and less stellarly, Lions HC.

[Zool]

Is it just me or that is that horn the most annoying noise ever?


they probably say they same thing about our go pack go crap

Yes, we do. :wink:

The go pack go is annoying, but they blow that damned horn at the oddest times. They blew it after a false start today.

[Pacopete4]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?


He'd have been better than what they had this year but I think he'll retire.And if the Vikes are wise, they won't touch Favre with a 50ft pole. That is a media circus that Chiily doesn't need. Besides the Jets won't release him anyway, so that is a moot point.


Think so? I have a feeling they aren't gonna want his $13Mil for the cap this season and he'll stay undecided on his future forcing them to release him where he will wind up in Minny with Chilly who will be trying to save his job.

[MJZiggy]

He'll be retired by the end of Feb. At the latest.

[cpk1994]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?


He'd have been better than what they had this year but I think he'll retire.And if the Vikes are wise, they won't touch Favre with a 50ft pole. That is a media circus that Chiily doesn't need. Besides the Jets won't release him anyway, so that is a moot point.


Think so? I have a feeling they aren't gonna want his $13Mil for the cap this season and he'll stay undecided on his future forcing them to release him where he will wind up in Minny with Chilly who will be trying to save his job.Chilly isn't trying to save his job. He just won the division title. Chilly is safe for a little while longer. Also, Zigi has seen the media circus and of course how his team got dragged into it with the tampering(Goodell swept that under the rug and everyone knows it).

As for the Jets, they have PSL's and the stadium to sell. They have already begun kissing up to Favfe in every way imagineable to get him to comeb ack. They sure as hell aren't about to release Favre. That would really be a balck eye for the franchise.

[Pacopete4]

Ras, are you ready for Brett?


He'd have been better than what they had this year but I think he'll retire.And if the Vikes are wise, they won't touch Favre with a 50ft pole. That is a media circus that Chiily doesn't need. Besides the Jets won't release him anyway, so that is a moot point.


Think so? I have a feeling they aren't gonna want his $13Mil for the cap this season and he'll stay undecided on his future forcing them to release him where he will wind up in Minny with Chilly who will be trying to save his job.Chilly isn't trying to save his job. He just won the division title. Chilly is safe for a little while longer. Also, Zigi has seen the media circus and of course how his team got dragged into it with the tampering(Goodell swept that under the rug and everyone knows it).

As for the Jets, they have PSL's and the stadium to sell. They have already begun kissing up to Favfe in every way imagineable to get him to comeb ack. They sure as hell aren't about to release Favre. That would really be a balck eye for the franchise.


Well I guess we disagree again haha :oops:

[HarveyWallbangers]

Frerotte won 8 games this year. You could be foolish and say what got you there is the AP and the Williams, but that would be blind and foolish. TJack had them, and he found a way to lose.

I don't buy this. TJack went like 8-3 for them last year, but he wasn't good. It's a fluke. Frerotte started off well, but he was killing them in the last handful of games.

[Lurker64]

I don't buy this. TJack went like 8-3 for them last year, but he wasn't good. It's a fluke. Frerotte started off well, but he was killing them in the last handful of games.

The Vikings are a team that's set up to require minimal production from the QB position to really succeed. They need a guy who can make those throws that you expect any QB to be able to make, and a guy who will periodically step up and make a few plays in order to win close games, and a guy who won't occasionally, inexplicably, play like he's not sure which way his helmet is supposed to face. If you hacked up Frerotte and Jackson and assembled a quarterback out of their best features, you'd have that guy. But I don't think either one is that guy.

Jackson will periodically assume his receivers are 30 feet tall, forget which way his helmet is supposed to go, and otherwise make plays that would make Jr. High coaches shake their heads. Frerotte (and the series of other "caretaker" journeymen they've had in there) just have a low ceiling and just won't make the big plays they need to win some close games against good teams.

If I were a purple fan (and a pirate), I would be paying close attention to Booty (and booty) in the offseason. Heh... Booty.

[cpk1994]

I don't buy this. TJack went like 8-3 for them last year, but he wasn't good. It's a fluke. Frerotte started off well, but he was killing them in the last handful of games.

The Vikings are a team that's set up to require minimal production from the QB position to really succeed. They need a guy who can make those throws that you expect any QB to be able to make, and a guy who will periodically step up and make a few plays in order to win close games, and a guy who won't occasionally, inexplicably, play like he's not sure which way his helmet is supposed to face. If you hacked up Frerotte and Jackson and assembled a quarterback out of their best features, you'd have that guy. But I don't think either one is that guy.

Jackson will periodically assume his receivers are 30 feet tall, forget which way his helmet is supposed to go, and otherwise make plays that would make Jr. High coaches shake their heads. Frerotte (and the series of other "caretaker" journeymen they've had in there) just have a low ceiling and just won't make the big plays they need to win some close games against good teams.

If I were a purple fan (and a pirate), I would be paying close attention to Booty (and booty) in the offseason. Heh... Booty.So, you're saying its time the Vikes make a Booty call? :lol:

[Zool]

Jackson will periodically assume his receivers are 30 feet tall, forget which way his helmet is supposed to go, and otherwise make plays that would make Jr. High coaches shake their heads.

I lol'd

[Rastak]

Frerotte won 8 games this year. You could be foolish and say what got you there is the AP and the Williams, but that would be blind and foolish. TJack had them, and he found a way to lose.

I don't buy this. TJack went like 8-3 for them last year, but he wasn't good. It's a fluke. Frerotte started off well, but he was killing them in the last handful of games.


Yup. I'm pretty sure if he wouldn't have hurt his back the Vikings would have lost to the Lions, he was pretty bad. These old QB's just wear out as the season goes on.

[steve823]

Lol..man it would be kinda bad if the Vikings actually had a qb...then there offense would be great. Thank god they never will have one..I guess thats how it is ..they have a rb and we have a qb.

[esoxx]

RB's are easier to find though.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think the Vikings played a good game, Philly is a better team.

McNabb is a hell of a QB, in my opinion. Tough and smart. He does have his faults, but overall a winner.

I guess Jackson just ain't gonna cut it as a pro QB. Just a so-so arm, no touch or accuracy.

[retailguy]

McNabb is a hell of a QB, in my opinion. Tough and smart. He does have his faults, but overall a winner.

Rush? Is it you Rush? :P