Conservatives and Ann Coulter

[Kiwon]

I need a little help here.

Ann Coulter is a smart woman. She's articulate and tough. In fact, she's fearless. She goes into more media and university lion dens than any conservative I've seen.

Above all, she can defend her opinions with facts. Everything that I've read of hers has research and substance behind it.

I get that some conservatives dislike her mannerisms and biting sarcasm. But why is there a solid core of folks on the right that seem to outright dismiss her without really thinking about what she has to say, much of which is rather profound?

Are these people intellectually lazy? Can they not get past the presentation itself? Both?

I don't get the conservative opposition to her.

[sheepshead]

There's way too much PC in our society. Ann deals in extremes and absurdities to try to make her point. I tried that same thing on the packer board and just got torched. Many of us can flush it out however. She is the top selling conservative author these days. Many people , publicly anyway cannot just nod their heads to Ann's point on face. Plus, shes attractive, smart and very conservative. Drives the liberals nuts!

[texaspackerbacker]

I saw her going at it with O'Reilly, and I have to say, I much prefer her confrontational attitude to O'Reilly's "can't we all just get along" (most of the time) attitude.

The thing that drives leftist mainstream media nuts the most is effectiveness at winning the hearts and minds of people over to conservative viewpoints. They will tear apart somebody like Coulter or Palin, but not do much attacking of somebody just as conservative, but less effective.

[mraynrand]

O'Reilly: "I could be wrong"
Coulter: "Prove me wrong"

[MadtownPacker]

Thats an ugly ass White bitch!

[Zool]

Thats an ugly ass White bitch!

QFT

[LL2]

Thats an ugly ass White bitch!

What do you know? You need to expand your horizons beyond latina porn.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

While Ms. Coulter has some talent and for some, i guess, good looks, let's be honest.

She is hardly honest and forthright. She openly lies and her books are full of inaccuracies. Of course, that doesn't make her different than many other authors.

What separates her is her outright belligerence in her lies and the fact that she is generally rude.

She couldn't even "make nice" and be civil with marshmallow Huckabee.

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

[gex]

Thats an ugly ass White bitch!

QFT

I'm not convinced that it is even a woman, it looks and sounds very much like a man. I've never been able to listen to what it is talking about, always too mesmerized by that adams apple bobbing up and down! :shock:

[Freak Out]

I never even pay attention to the skinny freak.....but she was funny when she was on the Bill Maher show.

[sheepshead]

While Ms. Coulter has some talent and for some, i guess, good looks, let's be honest.

She is hardly honest and forthright. She openly lies and her books are full of inaccuracies. Of course, that doesn't make her different than many other authors.

What separates her is her outright belligerence in her lies and the fact that she is generally rude.

She couldn't even "make nice" and be civil with marshmallow Huckabee.

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.



Of course all conservatives lie, but do you have an example or two?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

While Ms. Coulter has some talent and for some, i guess, good looks, let's be honest.

She is hardly honest and forthright. She openly lies and her books are full of inaccuracies. Of course, that doesn't make her different than many other authors.

What separates her is her outright belligerence in her lies and the fact that she is generally rude.

She couldn't even "make nice" and be civil with marshmallow Huckabee.

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.


Of course all conservatives lie, but do you have an example or two?

Who said conservatives. I said "authors."

Coulter fabrications:

1. On The Fifth Estate, a canadian tv show, she claimed Canada use to be one of our most loyal friends and that canada sent troops to Nam. Canada never sent troops to the Nam or any other part of Indochina after 1940. Pearson and Trudeau both blasted us and gave asylum to draft dodgers. When confronted with the facts she refused to back down nor did she ever get back with the host..as she said she would.

2. In her book Slander, there are just so many to choose from. But, let's take politics outta it..and just go back to her fav...the liberal media and it's bias.


COULTER (page 205): The day after seven-time NASCAR Winston Cup champion Dale Earnhardt died in a race at the Daytona 500, almost every newspaper in America carried the story on the front page. Stock-car racing had been the nation’s fastest-growing sport for a decade, and NASCAR the second-most-watched sport behind the NFL. More Americans recognize the name Dale Earnhardt than, say, Maureen Dowd. (Manhattan liberals are dumbly blinking at that last sentence.) It took the New York Times two days to deem Earnhardt’s name sufficiently important to mention it on the first page. Demonstrating the left’s renowned populist touch, the article began, “His death brought a silence to the Wal-Mart.” The Times went on to report that in vast swaths of the country people watch stock-car racing. Tacky people were mourning Dale Earnhardt all over the South!

Let's examine how badly she lies.

First, the Times did report his death on page one. But, so what..perhaps they displayed their "usual" haughty east coast bias.

Here is the incindiary headline.

“Stock Car Star Killed on Last Lap of Daytona 500.” :roll:

Well, maybe the story shows the bias.


LIPSYTE (page one, 2/19/01): Stock car racing’s greatest current star and one of its most popular and celebrated figures, Dale Earnhardt, crashed and was killed today after he made a characteristically bold lunge for better position on the last turn of the last lap of the sport’s premier event, the Daytona 500.

So, she lied about the that work.

But, why would she do this? And, where did the material come from..ie, wal-mart, etc.

From Page 1..2 days later. Oh, lord..the NYT put Earnhardt on page 1 twice.

But, was this writer biased. Was this a northern writer who sneered at the wal-mart, lubys eating, nascar loving DE fans?

Um...it was RICK fucking Bragg. A Times piece written by a major star. A down home southern boy who won the pulitzer prize. :oops:

In the piece, Bragg is reporting from a walmart in DE's hometown where his fans had bought up his memorabilia.


BRAGG (page one, 2/21/01): Today, it was clear what had become of some of it all: People had written their love on shirts and toys, and hung or propped them on a fence outside the offices of Dale Earnhardt Inc., one of the fanciest buildings in town. By morning, the makeshift memorial stretched 40 yards, and cars lined the country road.
“You were God to me,” a mourner scribbled on a card. Another wrote, “My boyfriend’s daddy loved you dearly.”

To the world outside Mooresville and the other little towns around this red-clay corner of North Carolina, Dale Earnhardt might have been racing’s biggest superstar, a walking corporation who won millions in prizes and millions more through smart marketing of his fame. He may have been the force behind the sport’s rise to nationwide popularity, after greats like Richard Petty had faded from victory lane.

But before he was “theirs,” as people here like to say, he was “ours.”

Do I need to provide more?

[texaspackerbacker]

It sounds like she's getting to you, Tyrone. That's what it's all about.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It sounds like she's getting to you, Tyrone. That's what it's all about.

Nope. I find it hilarious that anybody takes her seriously.

Like i said, she is a liar and rude. I actually felt bad for Huckabee watching him interview on his show.

[mraynrand]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

What evidence?

[mraynrand]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

What evidence?

5 posts and counting on this thread already from a lib - including a single source paper that you either wrote yourself or borrowed from Media Matters. Game, Set, Match Mr. deductive. I await one ounce of inductive reasoning from your lib brain.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

What evidence?

5 posts and counting on this thread already from a lib - including a single source paper that you either wrote yourself or borrowed from Media Matters. Game, Set, Match Mr. deductive. I await one ounce of inductive reasoning from your lib brain.

Posts in responses to queries..like the one from Sheep.

But, to conflate post with worry is dubious at best.

Source: Are you denying the accuracy? Nope. Not from media matters..but, i like how you try to portray them as a non critical source. More importantly, i was asked for factual information on lies. That is what i provided. Why don't you refute my facts.

Inductive: You might wanna brush up on that, slick. It is pretty inductive to say that she lied in the two examples given...therefore she lies all the time. :oops:

[Kiwon]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

[MadtownPacker]

Thats an ugly ass White bitch!

What do you know? You need to expand your horizons beyond latina porn.You remember how in all the old skool movies that where on an island or in the jungle and the natives always where in awe of the blond goddess that came with the White men? Coulter is such an ugly hag they would throw her in the stew pot or something shit like that cuz they damn sure would not want to screw her.

[mraynrand]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

What evidence?

5 posts and counting on this thread already from a lib - including a single source paper that you either wrote yourself or borrowed from Media Matters. Game, Set, Match Mr. deductive. I await one ounce of inductive reasoning from your lib brain.

Posts in responses to queries..like the one from Sheep.

But, to conflate post with worry is dubious at best.

Source: Are you denying the accuracy? Nope. Not from media matters..but, i like how you try to portray them as a non critical source. More importantly, i was asked for factual information on lies. That is what i provided. Why don't you refute my facts.

Inductive: You might wanna brush up on that, slick. It is pretty inductive to say that she lied in the two examples given...therefore she lies all the time. :oops:

Inductive: You'll figure it out eventually. And, you're up to seven post now. But you don't care.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least. She is her own worst enemy.

All evidence to the contrary.

What evidence?

5 posts and counting on this thread already from a lib - including a single source paper that you either wrote yourself or borrowed from Media Matters. Game, Set, Match Mr. deductive. I await one ounce of inductive reasoning from your lib brain.

Posts in responses to queries..like the one from Sheep.

But, to conflate post with worry is dubious at best.

Source: Are you denying the accuracy? Nope. Not from media matters..but, i like how you try to portray them as a non critical source. More importantly, i was asked for factual information on lies. That is what i provided. Why don't you refute my facts.

Inductive: You might wanna brush up on that, slick. It is pretty inductive to say that she lied in the two examples given...therefore she lies all the time. :oops:

Inductive: You'll figure it out eventually. And, you're up to seven post now. But you don't care.

Yep, i really do care. What is she doing today, where is she, what did she eat, who is she dating.

Please help me out.

[MadtownPacker]

Why are you stupid MFers ruining this thread? Lets talk about that bitch.

Tell you the truth, I like her attitude but she needs to be fine to act like that.

[bobblehead]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

In fairness she said she would vote for hillary before mccain...its not like she was foaming support for old johnny boy.

[Kiwon]

I get that some conservatives dislike her mannerisms and biting sarcasm. But why is there a solid core of folks on the right that seem to outright dismiss her without really thinking about what she has to say, much of which is rather profound?

Forget the liberals afflicted with Ann Coulter-derangement syndrome. Their intolerance is obvious.

But take some conservatives’ reaction to Ann's points about illegitimacy and a woman's responsibility, for instance. They are logical, very non-PC by today's standards, but very logical.

Liberals and conservatives both have tried to refrain from using the word "illegitimate" in recent decades to describe children born out of wedlock and Ann's arguments try to return the social stigma to it. It seems that some conservatives want to promote the need for strong families without addressing the other side of the equation (i.e., that it is irresponsible to engage in casual sex and run the risk of producing an unwanted child and that having a child out of wedlock is certainly less than ideal and even harmful to the child, the mother, the father, and to society).

She backs up her assertions with facts and research. And yet, some conservatives tend to focus upon the way she says things rather than the facts that she is highlighting and end up missing the whole point altogether.

My beef isn't with the Libs; they have the traditional ideal of family squarely in their sights and won't stop until it's completely destroyed. My problem is with conservatives that won't listen to the message because of who the messenger is.

Ann Coulter's style may be provocative and sometimes over the top, but she's jarring people awake and making them face some unpleasant realities regarding personal responsibility. It goes against what mainstream culture is teaching us but that's the whole point.

The American culture is in a moral tailspin (as borne out from the statistics) and it's up to each sensible person to help take the controls and help straighten it out before it crashes.

She blames the Left and it's radical agendas, of course. They don't want to hear the message, but apparently some on the Right don't want to either. This is what I don't understand.

[mraynrand]

Clearly Ann is inflicting her standards on others. She should be more forgiving and tolerant, and not seek revenge towards those who violate her standards. We each have our own set of standards with which we can be very happy, and others should never stand in judgment of what we do or say.

"Why can't we just get along?"

"Each of us puts his person and all his power in common under the supreme direction of the general will, and, in our corporate capacity, we receive each member as an indivisible part of the whole."

[bobblehead]

I defer to what I always say. I won't judge anyones behavior until it negatively affects me. i.e. I don't care how many baby daddys you have until you think its my responsibility to pay for them.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

In fairness she said she would vote for hillary before mccain...its not like she was foaming support for old johnny boy.

You are in Vegas. You wanna bet that she voted for Hillary. I'll take that action.

[bobblehead]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

In fairness she said she would vote for hillary before mccain...its not like she was foaming support for old johnny boy.

You are in Vegas. You wanna bet that she voted for Hillary. I'll take that action.

I have no idea, but she wrote plenty of articles slamming McCain. That is a fact. So saying this election is a failure of HER ideals is kinda disengenuous....or intellectually dishonest as you are fond of saying.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

In fairness she said she would vote for hillary before mccain...its not like she was foaming support for old johnny boy.

You are in Vegas. You wanna bet that she voted for Hillary. I'll take that action.

I have no idea, but she wrote plenty of articles slamming McCain. That is a fact. So saying this election is a failure of HER ideals is kinda disengenuous....or intellectually dishonest as you are fond of saying.

I'm aware that she posed as pro hillary/anti Mac.

Failure: I never posted once that the election was a failure of her ideals. That would be giving her way more credit than she is due...and acknowledging she is problematic...both of which i don't think she is.

what i said was..why would we be concerned/worried about her...we just won the whitehouse.

Like i said, she is her own worst enemy. Most mods (repub/dems) think she is an idiot..and quite a few conservatives realize that she hurts them more than she helps.

When someone like myself feels bad for Huckabee..then you know something ain't right.

[sheepshead]

Liberals aren't concerned about her in the least.

:D

Why would we be worried about her. Didn't we just win the white house..despite her foaming at the mouth. :lol:

In fairness she said she would vote for hillary before mccain...its not like she was foaming support for old johnny boy.

You are in Vegas. You wanna bet that she voted for Hillary. I'll take that action.

I have no idea, but she wrote plenty of articles slamming McCain. That is a fact. So saying this election is a failure of HER ideals is kinda disengenuous....or intellectually dishonest as you are fond of saying.

I'm aware that she posed as pro hillary/anti Mac.

Failure: I never posted once that the election was a failure of her ideals. That would be giving her way more credit than she is due...and acknowledging she is problematic...both of which i don't think she is.

what i said was..why would we be concerned/worried about her...we just won the whitehouse.

Like i said, she is her own worst enemy. Most mods (repub/dems) think she is an idiot..and quite a few conservatives realize that she hurts them more than she helps.

When someone like myself feels bad for Huckabee..then you know something ain't right.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuQSrb1XdUI

[Tyrone Bigguns]

^^

You are projecting again.