Press Conference at 1:00 pm

[Patler]

My gosh! The Packers found Mike McCarthy!
I thought he was lost!!!

He speaks today at 1:00 pm, live on packers.com

Has anything happened since his year-end press conference? I wonder what he has to talk about???
:lol:

[sheepshead]

Brett Favre

[LL2]

I'll have to see if they provide a transcript...cuz my work computer doesn't have speakers.

I have have a question for MM: "Hey Mike, what are you going to do to improve the team besides hire Capers?"

[Patler]

I have have a question for MM: "Hey Mike, what are you going to do to improve the team besides hire Capers?"

" Well, LL2, I'm not going to get into all of that right now. We are still evaluating that. We have to get better. None of us are satisfied. I'm real proud of the effort we have put into getting better. We are all working very hard, and I am pleased by the effort everyone is putting into it. Unfortunately, so far, the results have not shown, and I take full responsibility for that."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[gbgary]

I have have a question for MM: "Hey Mike, what are you going to do to improve the team besides hire Capers?"

" Well, LL2, I'm not going to get into all of that right now. We are still evaluating that. We have to get better. None of us are satisfied. I'm real proud of the effort we have put into getting better. We are all working very hard, and I am pleased by the effort everyone is putting into it. Unfortunately, so far, the results have not shown, and I take full responsibility for that."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

that's so...........generic. :D

[LL2]

I have have a question for MM: "Hey Mike, what are you going to do to improve the team besides hire Capers?"

" Well, LL2, I'm not going to get into all of that right now. We are still evaluating that. We have to get better. None of us are satisfied. I'm real proud of the effort we have put into getting better. We are all working very hard, and I am pleased by the effort everyone is putting into it. Unfortunately, so far, the results have not shown, and I take full responsibility for that."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Typical response...you should stand in for him Patler...you could babble off generalities all day for MM.

[cpk1994]

I'll have to see if they provide a transcript...cuz my work computer doesn't have speakers.

I have have a question for MM: "Hey Mike, what are you going to do to improve the team besides hire Capers?""THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!" Oh wait, thats not what you asked.

[pbmax]

Here is what I would like to happen. McGinn or Wilde launch into a "do you think you have sullied the Packer's and your reputation by axing a record number of assistant coaches..."

And then Lee Remmel pointing out that until 1983 or so, the Packers never employed that many assistant coaches. :lol:

[oregonpackfan]

My guess is that he will announce a new coordinator.

At the same time, I have been so wrong in making predictions lately(I chose the Eagles to win yesterday) my prediction skills are at an all-time low! :)

[Patler]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

[packers11]

He's going to say he rehired Bob Sanders and the Don Capers hiring were just rumors.... Be prepared :wink:

[Joemailman]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

It was my sense (maybe just my imagination) that the Packers had an awful lot of hamstring injuries this year that hampered guys for an extended period of time. I'm guessing they were just dissatisfied with the results of his training program.

[gbgary]

He's going to say he rehired Bob Sanders and the Don Capers hiring were just rumors.... Be prepared :wink:


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[Patler]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

It was my sense (maybe just my imagination) that the Packers had an awful lot of hamstring injuries this year that hampered guys for an extended period of time. I'm guessing they were just dissatisfied with the results of his training program.

Agreed, but the first two seasons they praised Gulickson's work as the reason they had so few injuries those two years. He won an award after 2007. That's why I wonder if it was the medical staff that wanted it, convincing MM/TT that Gullickson was the reason, in spite of the positive things that seemed to be happening the first two seasons.

[cpk1994]

The web cam is up and a large crowd of 3 people is packing the press room.

[cpk1994]

If these are all the reporters at the PC, Mike will have very few questions to answer.

[red]

i feel happy for the guy right in front of the camera

he looked so desperate looking for a friend to show up

now he has one :)

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

I doubt he says one word about why Gullickson was fired--even though he probably thinks he has a clear reason why he was fired. After the fact, why ruin the guy's reputation. There's always a chance the Vikings will hire him, and they'll come down with an rash of hamstring injuries.
:D

[AtlPackFan]

The web cam is up and a large crowd of 3 people is packing the press room.

There is a whole 12 now. Damn...I can't watch this or I'll be the one getting canned. Take good notes everyone!

[BallHawk]

They're talking about hoop earings.....

:doh: :doh:

[cpk1994]

Showtime!

[BallHawk]

McCarthy says he felt that the team wasn't going in right direction. Saw bad things repeating year to year.

[BallHawk]

McCarthy says it's going to be the 3-4.

3-4 here we come.

[red]

3-4 defense

whoohoo

[cpk1994]

Its official, he's going 3-4.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He said he likes the 3-4 because it's a good defense against the run. You think Adrian Peterson and Matt Forte had anything to do with that?
:D

[red]

3-4 is the starting point. m3 says he's a big believer in it

but they will also use the 4-3

he thinks kampman and jenkins will be very happy in the new role

[sheepshead]

He said he likes the 3-4 because it's a good defense against the run. You think Adrian Peterson and Matt Forte had anything to do with that?
:D

Excellent point.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He said he was looking for a guy with experience and he was looking for somebody who ran the 3-4 defense.

[red]

moss is staying

[BallHawk]

Winston Moss will be staying in Green Bay for this year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sounds like Kampman will be a 3-4 OLB.

[cpk1994]

He is very confident that Kampman will be fine in the 3-4.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He didn't come out and say they will stay with man press. He said they'll play what fits the personnel. He noted Baltimore ran more of a press scheme yesterday--while Pittsburgh ran more of a zone scheme. If he sticks with what fits the personnel, then they'll stay with a press scheme.

[Gunakor]

I'll trust MM's judgement that Kampy will be a good fit in a 3-4, given that MM has experience with 3-4 schemes in Pittsburgh and San Fransisco. He's seen Kampy enough over the past few years to make that evaluation. I hope he's right, because I just don't see it. But since he knows more than I do, I'll remain optimistic.

[cpk1994]

He says it was his decision not TT.

[LL2]

Any talk of FA?

[cpk1994]

Any talk of FA?NO. Only about Dom. FA would be TT's area anyway and he is not in the room.

[bobblehead]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

JH posted about Gullickson moving a bit away from the free weights and bringing in a special pectoral and squat machine which was followed by a rash of pec and hamstring injuries. I had not heard that before, but if true it would explain a lot. Hawk and Jenkins both suffered pec injuries which are kinda rare. I think there was even one other pec injury, but I don't recall who it was.

[sheepshead]

Kudos to MM for having a presser on the subject.

[Chevelle2]

Kampman = Next Kevin Greene.


:D

[cpk1994]

I guess the'y ll be flipping tires in the new strength program. :lol:

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll trust MM's judgement that Kampy will be a good fit in a 3-4, given that MM has experience with 3-4 schemes in Pittsburgh and San Fransisco. He's seen Kampy enough over the past few years to make that evaluation. I hope he's right, because I just don't see it. But since he knows more than I do, I'll remain optimistic.

Well, Kampman is about the same size as a lot of 3-4 OLBs in the league. He's listed at 6'4" 265. Let's not forget that Kampman ran a 4.65 40 coming out of college. His athleticism is underrated.

Jarret Johnson = 6'3" 270
Terrell Suggs = 6'3" 260
Greg Ellis = 6'6" 265
DeMarcus Ware = 6'4" 257
Mike Vrabel = 6'4" 261
Bryan Thomas = 6'4" 266
Calvin Pace = 6'4" 270
LaMarr Woodley = 6'2" 265
Shaun Phillips = 6'3" 262
Shawne Merriman = 6'4" 272

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think Kampy's going to have an adjustment period playing in space. I think he can do it, but it will take some time.

So, what if anything, does this mean for our draft?

[Waldo]

I think Kampy's going to have an adjustment period playing in space. I think he can do it, but it will take some time.

So, what if anything, does this mean for our draft?

Everette Brown early

Ron Brace a little later

[HarveyWallbangers]

So, what if anything, does this mean for our draft?

There seem to be a lot of good 3-4 players available in FA. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers grab a couple in FA, and then take an OT in the draft.

[Chevelle2]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

[Gunakor]

I'll trust MM's judgement that Kampy will be a good fit in a 3-4, given that MM has experience with 3-4 schemes in Pittsburgh and San Fransisco. He's seen Kampy enough over the past few years to make that evaluation. I hope he's right, because I just don't see it. But since he knows more than I do, I'll remain optimistic.

Well, Kampman is about the same size as a lot of 3-4 OLBs in the league. He's listed at 6'4" 265. Let's not forget that Kampman ran a 4.65 40 coming out of college. His athleticism is underrated.

Jarret Johnson = 6'3" 270
Terrell Suggs = 6'3" 260
Greg Ellis = 6'6" 265
DeMarcus Ware = 6'4" 257
Mike Vrabel = 6'4" 261
Bryan Thomas = 6'4" 266
Calvin Pace = 6'4" 270
LaMarr Woodley = 6'2" 265
Shaun Phillips = 6'3" 262
Shawne Merriman = 6'4" 272

Agreed that he's the right size, but it's his skill set that worries me. How well is he going to adapt to playing in space? It's not like, as a 3-4 OLB, he's going to be putting his hand in the dirt every snap. He's going to have to play coverage, and that's the part that worries me.

[cpk1994]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

I thought that was the case no matter what defense he sees? :lol:

[Patler]

I think Kampy's going to have an adjustment period playing in space. I think he can do it, but it will take some time.

So, what if anything, does this mean for our draft?

Kampman was a linebacker at Iowa until his junior season. He started for them as a linebacker. There will be an adjustment period, but it will not be totally foreign to him.

[Packers4Ever]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

No other teams play the 3-4 ? Or very few RB's when you
consider there are 32 teams? The 3-4 is new to me
as I suspect it might be to many fans.

Thanks! : )

[pack4to84]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

No other teams play the 3-4 ? Or very few RB's when you
consider there are 32 teams? The 3-4 is new to me
as I suspect it might be to many fans.

Thanks! : )
Teams that play 3-4
Steelers
Ravens
Cowboys
Jets
49ers
Chargers
Browns
Miami
NE
Packers :cow:

[Patler]

I wonder if he will discuss the firings, or pass them off as "in the past" stating the Packers are "dealing with the future".

The one I would like to hear an explanation for is Gullickson. The rest were obvious due to team performance. Whether you agree with them or not, the thinking behind the firings is apparent. But, what brought about Gullickson's dismissal? Some have speculated that he and the medical staff did not see eye-to-eye.

I doubt he says one word about why Gullickson was fired--even though he probably thinks he has a clear reason why he was fired. After the fact, why ruin the guy's reputation. There's always a chance the Vikings will hire him, and they'll come down with an rash of hamstring injuries.
:D

He actually said more than I expected, something about the environment "down there" being really wrong. Seemed quite adamant about it having to change.

There were a few articles about the players competing for "max" performances, including Grant and other small guys competing against the O-linemen for leg presses, squats or something. It was in the article about Spitz blow away the equipment's capacity for the same thing. Perhaps the feeling was there was not enough supervision to prevent players hurting themselves, regardless of whether it was free weights, machines or what. Maybe he blames him for Harrell's back injury, too.

Interesting to me - he said Lovatt is one of 5 finalists for the job, which he hopes to announce in the next couple days. Obviously, what ever the problem was, he believes Gullickson was the sole cause.

[Joemailman]

If Kampman is going to play OLB primarily, Tyson Jackson of LSU becomes my favorite for the Packers 1st round pick.

[Fritz]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

No other teams play the 3-4 ? Or very few RB's when you
consider there are 32 teams? The 3-4 is new to me
as I suspect it might be to many fans.

Thanks! : )
Teams that play 3-4
Steelers
Ravens
Cowboys
Jets
49ers
Chargers
Browns
Miami
NE
Packers :cow:

Note that from this list only two are NFC teams - so the Pack is the third. And neither of the other two is in the NFC North.

Maybe I'll come around to this 3-4 thing.

[red]

If Kampman is going to play OLB primarily, Tyson Jackson of LSU becomes my favorite for the Packers 1st round pick.

agreed

IF kampman does make the move to OLB

and the best part is, you should be able to trade down to get him

[Waldo]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

No other teams play the 3-4 ? Or very few RB's when you
consider there are 32 teams? The 3-4 is new to me
as I suspect it might be to many fans.

Thanks! : )
Teams that play 3-4
Steelers
Ravens
Cowboys
Jets
49ers
Chargers
Browns
Miami
NE
Packers :cow:

Note that from this list only two are NFC teams - so the Pack is the third. And neither of the other two is in the NFC North.

Maybe I'll come around to this 3-4 thing.

Cardinals too. They are a hybrid, and switch in and out of the 4-3 and 3-4 just like the Ravens.

The Eagles were the only non 3-4 or hybrid team playing on championship weekend.

[pack4to84]

3-4 defense is easier to replace parts year in year out. Steelers lost so many great players and year in year out always in the 10 ten.

[SMACKTALKIE]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

Jackson knows how to hand the ball to 28. :wink: Hopefully that will only mean that Cassell or Hasselbeck are busy tying their shoe on the sidelines.

[Pugger]

Hmmmm, there is nothing on the Packers' website about this PC. :? Did he announce Capers?? :?:

[pack4to84]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

[Patler]

Hmmmm, there is nothing on the Packers' website about this PC. :? Did he announce Capers?? :?:

It was on live, and a recording should be available soon. Transcript, too. It just got over about an hour ago.

Yes, he announced Capers.

[Joemailman]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that the Packers got Capers because TT was more willing to pay the big money than the Giants?!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

[mraynrand]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that the Packers got Capers because TT was more willing to pay the big money than the Giants?!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Good thing coach's salaries aren't subject to the cap.

[Bossman641]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Boy is this gonna shoot a hole in the "TT is cheap and will never pay big money for a player OR coach" theories that were going around.

[Gunakor]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Boy is this gonna shoot a hole in the "TT is cheap and will never pay big money for a player OR coach" theories that were going around.

That's a common misconception, one that likely won't die just because we signed Capers. Besides, the only reason people might realize it this time is because Capers accepted the offer. Had he declined, TT would still be a cheapskate for not offering more.

[pbmax]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that the Packers got Capers because TT was more willing to pay the big money than the Giants?!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Good thing coach's salaries aren't subject to the cap.
That's what Dan Snyder keeps telling us too. :lol:

I am sure that T2 got outfoxed in some manner here. Someone will be able to spot it shortly I am sure!

[rbaloha1]

As Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported on Sunday night, former Pats assistant coach and two-time expansion team head coach Dom Capers has decided to join the Packers as their new defensive coordinator.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Giants, and possibly several other teams, were chasing Capers. Because the Giants hesitated to meet Capers’ salary demands, he opted to jump to the Packers instead.Looks like the Packers put a attractive offer on the table for Dom Capers

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that the Packers got Capers because TT was more willing to pay the big money than the Giants?!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Brilliant TT move. Finally we out negotiate some one for a coveted coach/player.

YIPEEE!

[Patler]

I am sure that T2 got outfoxed in some manner here. Someone will be able to spot it shortly I am sure!

I'm thinking he must have way overpaid for Capers. I'm sure if will interrupt their cash situation such that, in spite of their good cap situation, cash will be a problem and they still won't be able to sign players.

All because they paid too much for Capers! :lol: :lol:

[swede]

Never mind.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/emily-litella.jpg

[rbaloha1]

I am sure that T2 got outfoxed in some manner here. Someone will be able to spot it shortly I am sure!

I'm thinking he must have way overpaid for Capers. I'm sure if will interrupt their cash situation such that, in spite of their good cap situation, cash will be a problem and they still won't be able to sign players.

All because they paid too much for Capers! :lol: :lol:

Paying Capers does not come from the players salary cap.

Although the one year buyouts plus Capers salary dents overall cash flow.

[Gunakor]

I am sure that T2 got outfoxed in some manner here. Someone will be able to spot it shortly I am sure!

I'm thinking he must have way overpaid for Capers. I'm sure if will interrupt their cash situation such that, in spite of their good cap situation, cash will be a problem and they still won't be able to sign players.

All because they paid too much for Capers! :lol: :lol:

Paying Capers does not come from the players salary cap.

Although the one year buyouts plus Capers salary dents overall cash flow.

Depends on how long Capers was locked up for. Remember, 2+ years might mean uncapped player salaries as well. Capers' deal might have a small impact on player salaries should that happen.

[Patler]

I am sure that T2 got outfoxed in some manner here. Someone will be able to spot it shortly I am sure!

I'm thinking he must have way overpaid for Capers. I'm sure if will interrupt their cash situation such that, in spite of their good cap situation, cash will be a problem and they still won't be able to sign players.

All because they paid too much for Capers! :lol: :lol:

Paying Capers does not come from the players salary cap.

Although the one year buyouts plus Capers salary dents overall cash flow.

Isn't that what I wrote?
Wasn't I being facetious, as evidenced by the double ":lol:"

BTW - report is that he will be paid $2 million in 2010, but a discounted salary in 2009 during which he is still entitled to money from the Dolphins from when the whole staff was let go.

[Patler]

Depends on how long Capers was locked up for. Remember, 2+ years might mean uncapped player salaries as well. Capers' deal might have a small impact on player salaries should that happen.

True, but if it gets to that point the NFL as we know it will be dead anyway!

[Brando19]

Awesome move going to a 3-4. It'll bring a breath of fresh air to the defense and to the fans. I wonder if the Packers became a sexier team to Julius Peppers?

[Gunakor]

Depends on how long Capers was locked up for. Remember, 2+ years might mean uncapped player salaries as well. Capers' deal might have a small impact on player salaries should that happen.

True, but if it gets to that point the NFL as we know it will be dead anyway!

The NFL as I knew it died yesterday when Arizona won the NFC Championship game.

[Patler]

Awesome move going to a 3-4..... I wonder if the Packers became a sexier team to Julius Peppers?

...and less so to Albert Haynesworth, should he actually hit the street?

[Patler]

Depends on how long Capers was locked up for. Remember, 2+ years might mean uncapped player salaries as well. Capers' deal might have a small impact on player salaries should that happen.

True, but if it gets to that point the NFL as we know it will be dead anyway!

The NFL as I knew it died yesterday when Arizona won the NFC Championship game.

Touche! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ND72]

Awesome move going to a 3-4..... I wonder if the Packers became a sexier team to Julius Peppers?

...and less so to Albert Haynesworth, should he actually hit the street?

Not really. Haynesworth would still be a bull of a NT in a 3-4

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not really. Haynesworth would still be a bull of a NT in a 3-4

Really. I'd think the 3-4 would be less attractive to Haynesworth. 3-4 NTs don't get the sexy sack totals that guys like Haynesworth are looking for.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Not really. Haynesworth would still be a bull of a NT in a 3-4

Really. I'd think the 3-4 would be less attractive to Haynesworth. 3-4 NTs don't get the sexy sack totals that guys like Haynesworth are looking for.

Haynesworth could line up anywhere on the defensive line and I'm sure he'd cause plenty of havoc. However, his bread and butter is as a 4-3 DT, who knows if the guy wants to try switching to NT at this point in his career. Haynesworth will all come down to money, I think he's made atleast that much known.

[Packers4Ever]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

No other teams play the 3-4 ? Or very few RB's when you
consider there are 32 teams? The 3-4 is new to me
as I suspect it might be to many fans.

Thanks! : )
Teams that play 3-4
Steelers
Ravens
Cowboys
Jets
49ers




Chargers
Browns
Miami
NE
Packers :cow:

Thanks for the help, :wink:

[Patler]

Not really. Haynesworth would still be a bull of a NT in a 3-4

Really. I'd think the 3-4 would be less attractive to Haynesworth. 3-4 NTs don't get the sexy sack totals that guys like Haynesworth are looking for.

...and they get the crap beat out of them. Most DTs hate playing nose, and I doubt an elite DT who can pick his destination will put himself into a 3-4 if he can help it. That's why I think it will be less appealing to Haynesworth. Doesn't matter though, as I doubt he will actually make it to FA.

[mission]

The other bright side of the 3-4 now is that our offense will get to practice against it all the time and now won't completely shit the bed when we see a 3-4 ... let's be honest, we've seemed to always have issues when playing a 3-4 and offensively, this should help us out...

[Rastak]

I can't wait until Tarvaris Jackson comes to the line, on the first play of the game, sees a 3-4, and literally has no idea what to do.

I thought that was the case no matter what defense he sees? :lol:


Exactly, so what's his point?

[Fritz]

Come on, Ras, you know you want BF lining up under center next year for your beloved Vikes!

[Rastak]

Come on, Ras, you know you want BF lining up under center next year for your beloved Vikes!


Only for the first few games, then he fades badly so somebody needs to be ready to take charge after the streak gets broken.

[Guiness]

Really. I'd think the 3-4 would be less attractive to Haynesworth. 3-4 NTs don't get the sexy sack totals that guys like Haynesworth are looking for.

...and they get the crap beat out of them. Most DTs hate playing nose, and I doubt an elite DT who can pick his destination will put himself into a 3-4 if he can help it. That's why I think it will be less appealing to Haynesworth. Doesn't matter though, as I doubt he will actually make it to FA.

I think you're right, NFL NT's take an absolute beating, and a guy who can pick his destination is going elsewhere. Everyone's worried about Kamp, but I think filling the NT position is going to be the toughest part of going to a 3-4. I hope Pickett is up for it.

Here's a good description I found about the position



Imagine walking down a crowded New York sidewalk and colliding head-on with someone heading in the other direction. While the two of you try to disengage, another guy sideswipes you. Then, someone else shoves you from the other side. These other pedestrians are big, strong and wear heavy body padding, and the jostling continues block after block after block.

[Guiness]

Awesome move going to a 3-4. It'll bring a breath of fresh air to the defense and to the fans. I wonder if the Packers became a sexier team to Julius Peppers?

He has stated he wants to be a 3-4 OLB.

Him and Kamp starting at OLB. If they both adapt well, that would be insane.