MMA: Who Wins? - St. Pierre vs. Penn

[Kiwon]

Yeah, Baby!!

Georges St. Pierre versus B.J. Penn.

Who wins?

It's on regular cable in Korea, no PPV here! Can't wait.

[Kiwon]

GSP dominates an excellent fighter in B.J. Penn.

He's an exceptional athlete, pound for pound maybe the best anywhere.

A great champ!


http://www.nhbcanada.ca/images/georges-st-pierre.jpg

[SkinBasket]

Too bad he televised undercard sucked butt.

[Kiwon]

Too bad he televised undercard sucked butt.

No kidding.

The only other decent part was Lyoto Machida's knockout of Thiago Silva. He hit him twice but the dude was out cold with the first strike.

The Koreans were hyped up rooting for Dong Hyun Kim but the guy has no stand up and lacks the experience to finish. That's the last time I hope UFC pairs two judo guys together. Boring fight.

Did you see B.J.'s head? He had ice packs on all sides. GSP was bouncing his head off the mat like a superball. They announced that the doctor called it but it looked like it was B.J. and his brother did to me. A bitter pill for B.J. because he boasted that he would break GSP's will in the ring. A big negatory on that one.

B.J. better stick in the lightweight division. There's no way that he can beat GSP at 170. The guy's an incredible athlete, a machine right now.

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[Kiwon]

St-Pierre delivers weighty lesson at UFC 94

Posted 2/1/2009 12:24 PM EST, USA Today

Can we forget about pound-for-pound mythmaking now and get back to fighting?

Welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre's overwhelming victory over BJ Penn in the main event of Saturday's UFC 94 card underscored the reason for weight classes in combat sports. Except for wrestling, St-Pierre wasn't necessarily the more skilled fighter; after the fight, he openly admitted that he wanted no part of Penn's boxing and jiu-jitsu.

Yet St-Pierre was simply too big, too fit and too powerful for his smaller opponent. After hitting the 170-pound mark at Friday's official weigh-ins, he was back at 187 pounds by Saturday night. With Penn not cutting weight at all, St-Pierre likely outweighed him by almost 20 pounds.

The physical differences were clear in every aspect of the fight.

In their brief striking exchanges on the feet, St-Pierre used his greater reach to land counter jabs and overhand punches solidly. He did so well standing that trainer Greg Jackson advised him to stick with kickboxing after Penn resisted all of St-Pierre's takedowns in the first round.

St-Pierre's choice to continue wrestling instead worked because even someone with Penn's balance and poise eventually had to yield to constant pressure from a stronger individual. Once he was on his back, the difference in their frames was so stark that Penn looked almost like a 13-year-old being punished by a parent.

The Hawaiian's world-champion jiu-jitsu skills couldn't stop the onslaught of elbows, forearms, punches and hammerfists from St-Pierre. Penn's early rubber guard attempt tied up St-Pierre momentarily, but larger man kept Penn from initiating any offense from the position. When Penn would turn onto his hip in an attempt to set-up a classic escape, St-Pierre simply leaned on him and kept hammering away until Penn simply went back to full-guard; the third and fourth rounds were basically a repeat of St-Pierre's overpowering win over undersized Matt Serra during their rematch in April.

Saturday's win wasn't purely a physical victory, because St-Pierre and his team concocted an intelligent approach that was detailed enough to target specific attributes of Penn, down to the muscles themselves. It might be the most thoughtful gameplan seen in a mixed martial arts bout in a long time.

Don't sell Penn's skills short either; his technical excellence has been demonstrated repeatedly in past fights. But landing left jabs and stuffing takedowns is much easier when facing shorter and stockier men like Sean Sherk and Joe Stevenson rather than the taller, rangier St-Pierre.

That's why the whole pound-for-pound speculation means little. Even Penn's fighting genius simply can't overcome an equally skilled fighter who carries 16 to 20 more pounds of muscle on a longer frame. There will never be truly even terms between Penn and St-Pierre, or, for that matter, St-Pierre and Anderson Silva.

And we shouldn't expect them. What's the point of watching someone fight in less than optimal shape? Let's enjoy fighters at their physical peak. That's why we have weight classes in the first place.

[SkinBasket]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNt87FIl9NM

Best Gi choke I've ever seen... ever.

[Kiwon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNt87FIl9NM

Best Gi choke I've ever seen... ever.

:D :D

Obviously an ESL student.