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crosbiegrad
02-23-2009, 12:47 AM
Exactly what it say's on the tin. I'm a christian and believe in the importance of the traditional (husband,wife and kids) family. In a college class I've kind of come under attack for stating such and have been called a bigot and closed minded. So, what makes a bigot?

Harlan Huckleby
02-23-2009, 01:01 AM
damn excellent question.

I think most people are bigots to some degree. To me, a bigot fears and degrades other ways of thinking or living. A bigot is certain that his own kind and his own way is superior. Its the degree of certainty that puts the big in bigot.

bigots come in all political, racial, economic stripes.

crosbiegrad
02-23-2009, 01:19 AM
I obviously believe that how I choose to live my life is the best way, but I also believe that everyone has the right to live their life in a way that brings them happiness. I grew up in scotland and when I hear the word bigot, I think of issues between catholics and protestants akin to the issues in Ireland.Actual violence, actual discrimination, terrible stuff. Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?

MJZiggy
02-23-2009, 06:14 AM
Bigot
Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.]

1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay.

SkinBasket
02-23-2009, 06:41 AM
Exactly what it say's on the tin. I'm a christian and believe in the importance of the traditional (husband,wife and kids) family. In a college class I've kind of come under attack for stating such and have been called a bigot and closed minded. So, what makes a bigot?

Higher education, where you will think freely. I would call them bigots for calling me a bigot and point out that their opinion on your opinions is more closed minded than your own opinions, since from what you've told us, you haven't insulted their position, just stated your own.

I know how you feel. I once almost got booed out of a contemporary social philosophy class for suggesting that the biological purpose of sex was reproduction, not sexual enjoyment, in pointing out a flaw in one of our TA's stupid philosophical analogies. We did get to watch some porn in that class though, so it was worth it.

HowardRoark
02-23-2009, 06:42 AM
Bigot
Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.]

1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay.

http://www.philanthromedia.org/archives/al-gore.jpg

Deputy Nutz
02-23-2009, 08:15 AM
Exactly what it say's on the tin. I'm a christian and believe in the importance of the traditional (husband,wife and kids) family. In a college class I've kind of come under attack for stating such and have been called a bigot and closed minded. So, what makes a bigot?

Higher education, where you will think freely. I would call them bigots for calling me a bigot and point out that their opinion on your opinions is more closed minded than your own opinions, since from what you've told us, you haven't insulted their position, just stated your own.

I know how you feel. I once almost got booed out of a contemporary social philosophy class for suggesting that the biological purpose of sex was reproduction, not sexual enjoyment, in pointing out a flaw in one of our TA's stupid philosophical analogies. We did get to watch some porn in that class though, so it was worth it.

So I see you agree with the Catholic Church.

SkinBasket
02-23-2009, 08:44 AM
I'm all about the Catholic Church. I think I'm going to start a new line of tee shirts espousing morality.

Zool
02-23-2009, 08:52 AM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

LL2
02-23-2009, 10:09 AM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

mraynrand
02-23-2009, 11:01 AM
I think the simple answer is that they are born that way, they eat a lot, and they lift weights. That's what makes a Big OT.

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/oher.jpg

Brando19
02-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Exactly what it say's on the tin. I'm a christian and believe in the importance of the traditional (husband,wife and kids) family. In a college class I've kind of come under attack for stating such and have been called a bigot and closed minded. So, what makes a bigot?

Higher education, where you will think freely. I would call them bigots for calling me a bigot and point out that their opinion on your opinions is more closed minded than your own opinions, since from what you've told us, you haven't insulted their position, just stated your own.

I know how you feel. I once almost got booed out of a contemporary social philosophy class for suggesting that the biological purpose of sex was reproduction, not sexual enjoyment, in pointing out a flaw in one of our TA's stupid philosophical analogies. We did get to watch some porn in that class though, so it was worth it.

Well let me ask you this...if you believe what you said...then why do you support homosexuality so much? I'm not judging anyone...just asking a question.

SkinBasket
02-23-2009, 04:19 PM
You may want to take note of the word "biological."

Freak Out
02-23-2009, 05:54 PM
Bigot? WTF.....I thought this was the Bigfoot thread.

crosbiegrad
02-23-2009, 06:01 PM
Im inclined to agree with you skin, calling someone else a bigot because of their stance is more than a little hypocritical. Thanks

MJZiggy
02-23-2009, 06:05 PM
Exactly what it say's on the tin. I'm a christian and believe in the importance of the traditional (husband,wife and kids) family. In a college class I've kind of come under attack for stating such and have been called a bigot and closed minded. So, what makes a bigot?

Higher education, where you will think freely. I would call them bigots for calling me a bigot and point out that their opinion on your opinions is more closed minded than your own opinions, since from what you've told us, you haven't insulted their position, just stated your own.

I know how you feel. I once almost got booed out of a contemporary social philosophy class for suggesting that the biological purpose of sex was reproduction, not sexual enjoyment, in pointing out a flaw in one of our TA's stupid philosophical analogies. We did get to watch some porn in that class though, so it was worth it.

Why would a social philosophy class have a problem with that statement. The biological purpose IS reproduction; sexual pleasure is the mechanism by which a whole lotta accidental reproduction takes place. Somehow I could see you getting booed out of a social philosophy class, though.

HowardRoark
02-23-2009, 07:32 PM
Here is another hateful bigot.

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/.aaaaaaaapenn.jpg

sheepshead
02-24-2009, 07:39 AM
Barack Obama won 95% of black voters.

HarveyWallbangers
02-24-2009, 07:57 AM
Bigot
Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.]

1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay.

I love how this definition explicitly states "in matters of religion." They could have left that out and just said somebody who believes their own belief or opinion as unquestionably right. Maybe they should add anybody who judges a religious person as a bigot based on their own belief or opinion. Nah, they wouldn't do that. I'm actually surprised they didn't just say a Christian--because it has become en vogue to say things like this about Christians, but not other faiths.

Freak Out
02-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Bigfoot is a bigot...and a rapist.

http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/g/T/bigfoot_stealing.jpg

MJZiggy
02-24-2009, 06:01 PM
Bigot
Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.]

1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay.

I love how this definition explicitly states "in matters of religion." They could have left that out and just said somebody who believes their own belief or opinion as unquestionably right. Maybe they should add anybody who judges a religious person as a bigot based on their own belief or opinion. Nah, they wouldn't do that. I'm actually surprised they didn't just say a Christian--because it has become en vogue to say things like this about Christians, but not other faiths.

Whaddaya want? Three different dictionary entries on dictionary.com specifically stated religion. At least all of them didn't include hypocrisy...

Tyrone Bigguns
02-25-2009, 07:30 PM
Bigot
Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.]

1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay.

I love how this definition explicitly states "in matters of religion." They could have left that out and just said somebody who believes their own belief or opinion as unquestionably right. Maybe they should add anybody who judges a religious person as a bigot based on their own belief or opinion. Nah, they wouldn't do that. I'm actually surprised they didn't just say a Christian--because it has become en vogue to say things like this about Christians, but not other faiths.

It is SO hard to be a white christian male these days. My god, there are so few of them represented in gov't, big business, etc.

texaspackerbacker
02-27-2009, 01:05 PM
How did a worthwhile and significant thread like this end up in here instead of FYI?

Of Ziggy's three dictionary entries, #2 obviously comes the closest--although, it completely leaves out the racial aspect of the word, which in today's usage is by far the most common.

As for the right and wrong of the whole issue--which is undoubtedly what the original poster was discussing, and why this belongs in the political room, the words BIGOT and BIGOTRY are primarily used nowadays by the bad people to disparage the good people who care enough to express the philosophies that make them good.

That can be applied to religion, politics, morality separate from religion, race, sexual preference, and probably a few other areas I've left out.

The best way for a good person to react to the charge of bigotry? Think like Patrick Henry's famous quote: "If this be treason, make the most of it"--just substitute the word, bigotry for treason.

Kiwon
02-27-2009, 05:13 PM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

Ah.....er....not really. The "saying" is a biblical quote (Matthew 7:1) and the word "judge" is misapplied.

But back to crosbiegrad's question, "Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?"

He is a bigot, Zool?

Is he supposed to believe something and then not express it publicly in class because someone will feel "judged?"

Tyrone Bigguns
02-27-2009, 05:22 PM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

Ah.....er....not really. The "saying" is a biblical quote (Matthew 7:1) and the word "judge" is misapplied.

But back to crosbiegrad's question, "Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?"

He is a bigot, Zool?

Is he supposed to believe something and then not express it publicly in class because someone will feel "judged?"

I'd like to take the plank out of your eye and hit you over the head with it.

Kiwon
02-27-2009, 05:40 PM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

Ah.....er....not really. The "saying" is a biblical quote (Matthew 7:1) and the word "judge" is misapplied.

But back to crosbiegrad's question, "Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?"

He is a bigot, Zool?

Is he supposed to believe something and then not express it publicly in class because someone will feel "judged?"

I'd like to take the plank out of your eye and hit you over the head with it.

I think you are quoting the Satanic Bible now.

What's the reference for that? Which chapter, which verse?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Satanicbible.gif

Tyrone Bigguns
02-27-2009, 05:41 PM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

Ah.....er....not really. The "saying" is a biblical quote (Matthew 7:1) and the word "judge" is misapplied.

But back to crosbiegrad's question, "Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?"

He is a bigot, Zool?

Is he supposed to believe something and then not express it publicly in class because someone will feel "judged?"

I'd like to take the plank out of your eye and hit you over the head with it.

I think you are quoting the Satanic Bible now.

What's the reference for that?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Satanicbible.gif

So good to see you call out others for misaplying the biblical verse..and then not recognizing a direct lift from the subsequent verse. :oops:

Charles Woodson
02-27-2009, 07:35 PM
People yell out racist and bigot for reaction anymore. Fuck the people in your class.

But if you tell people that their way of life is wrong in your opinion, well as the saying goes, judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

Nicely written.

Ah.....er....not really. The "saying" is a biblical quote (Matthew 7:1) and the word "judge" is misapplied.

But back to crosbiegrad's question, "Is it bigoted to believe that marriage is sacred and between one man and one woman?"

He is a bigot, Zool?

Is he supposed to believe something and then not express it publicly in class because someone will feel "judged?"

I'd like to take the plank out of your eye and hit you over the head with it.

I think you are quoting the Satanic Bible now.

What's the reference for that?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Satanicbible.gif

So good to see you call out others for misaplying the biblical verse..and then not recognizing a direct lift from the subsequent verse. :oops:

I fail to see how thats a direct lift... The only resemblance is the plank in the eye part... so we have a person calling out someone for misapplying a verse, and then someone else calling out someone for misapplying a verse, and the later person misapplying a verse. interesting