Safety Anthony Smith Signed

[Waldo]

Exhale......we signed a FA, FS/SS Anthony Smith from the Steelers.


The Green Bay Packers have agreed to a contract with safety Anthony Smith, an NFL source said today.


http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2007/1206/nfl_g_smith_200.jpg

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

[Mazzin]

BALLIN!

Just got home from work, and i get this great news....competion for Atari is going to be good for him....I really hope he comes out on top though.
:o

[red]

well thats something at least

he's listed as a free safety

can he play SS, or was he just brought in to be collins backup?

[Waldo]

well thats something at least

he's listed as a free safety

can he play SS, or was he just brought in to be collins backup?

I don't know why he's listed as a FS, he plays like a SS.

IMO he was brought in to compete with Bigby, with the loser backing up the SS position.

Rouse is pretty bad at SS, he's not a very instinctive player. He's played much better in the centerfield FS role.

Smith is a whole lot better than Peprah, and a fiery player. We definitely improved with this move.

[red]

well he came from a winner, and 2 years ago he started 10 games

i hope he brings some of that steelers attitude

[Lurker64]

well he came from a winner, and 2 years ago he started 10 games

i hope he brings some of that steelers attitude

I also hope he brings "the ability to call the defense" which will be an issue, at least early in the season.

[mission]

he looks like he brings the ability to lay some wood...

if he's listed as a FS then great, that means he can play a little coverage if anything. looks like a mean sum'bitch tho :twisted: :D

[Freak Out]

Did it snow in Madison today?

[Deputy Nutz]

I shit all over the place!!!!

Lets see, TT's 8th free agent in 4 years.

[Charles Woodson]

did hell just freeze over?

[ahaha]

This is the boob who shot his mouth off about Brady & company before they played them in '07. He then got torched on multiple big plays.

[Joemailman]

Did it snow in Madison today?

50% chance of snow tonight. TT must have seen the forecast. Gotta make you wonder which Packerrat is actually TT. My money is on Fritz.

[RashanGary]

We'll have to see how the team shakes out after the draft. I have a feeling that last safety spot is going to be a tough one to keep.

[Joemailman]

I think this means Peprah is toast, unless they keep 5 safeties.

[Joemailman]

well thats something at least

he's listed as a free safety

can he play SS, or was he just brought in to be collins backup?

I don't know why he's listed as a FS, he plays like a SS.

IMO he was brought in to compete with Bigby, with the loser backing up the SS position.

Rouse is pretty bad at SS, he's not a very instinctive player. He's played much better in the centerfield FS role.

Smith is a whole lot better than Peprah, and a fiery player. We definitely improved with this move.

Agree about Rouse. He played very well in 2007 when Collins was injured. Last year, not so much.

[Joemailman]

did hell just freeze over?

http://halfwaytoconcord.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hell-freezes-over1.jpg

[Patler]

Smith is a whole lot better than Peprah, and a fiery player. We definitely improved with this move.

Only if he ends up playing a lot from scrimmage, i.e. starts. If he ends up as a backup/ST guy, it might be a performance decline. Supposedly, Peprah is good on ST, and tries to contribute on ST. Some stories said this guy paved his way out of Pittsburgh with an indifferent attitude and poor effort toward ST when he wasn't a starter.

[RashanGary]

He could start. From what I understand, the free safety in this defense is more of a roamer. I think being the roamer deep has less responsibility because they don't have as urgent of a run responsibility and playing deep, things tend to take more time to unfold.

The SS is closer to the line. The play will get to him quicker so he'll have to diagnose quicker. He'll have more run responsibilities on top of the pass. I think it would require a player who really knows what he's doing. Maybe this guy isn't the long term answer, but he should have a good head start over Bigby at the position just because he should know it much better going in.

He doesn't sound like a smart football player. My initial thought is that he won't be a long term answer, but could help short term and could help with ST's.

[Bretsky]

another body is good

Sure would be cool to sign something that can imitate a starter

Igor anyone ?????????/

Wonder if we'll even bring the dude in

[MJZiggy]

another body is good

Sure would be cool to sign something that can imitate a starter

Igor anyone ?????????/

Wonder if we'll even bring the dude in

He signed with the Cowboys. That would be tampering.

[Bretsky]

another body is good

Sure would be cool to sign something that can imitate a starter

Igor anyone ?????????/

Wonder if we'll even bring the dude in

He signed with the Cowboys. That would be tampering.



Who signed with the Cowboys ?

[red]

another body is good

Sure would be cool to sign something that can imitate a starter

Igor anyone ?????????/

Wonder if we'll even bring the dude in

He signed with the Cowboys. That would be tampering.



Who signed with the Cowboys ?

igor

[HarveyWallbangers]

Still want Igor?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40870762.html

[Bretsky]

another body is good

Sure would be cool to sign something that can imitate a starter

Igor anyone ?????????/

Wonder if we'll even bring the dude in

He signed with the Cowboys. That would be tampering.



Who signed with the Cowboys ?

igor


Pucking Tightwad Turtle Ted

We don't need starters anyways; we're just fine there.

Our DL is just fine; in fact we're outstanding

With Carl Malone and Justine Harrell I'm infinitely confident :!:

BRING BACK COLIN COLE; crap did I say that

He's looking alright now :lol:

[Bretsky]

Still want Igor?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40870762.html


good gossip......but with our DL.....probably

[HarveyWallbangers]

good gossip......but with our DL.....probably

It may be gossip, but how else do you explain him getting little interest? I didn't realize he was benched for 4 games last year. And he's the guy we had to have. Him or Canty. Canty isn't a bad player, but people make him out to be a stud or something. I'm glad we didn't pay the price for Canty. I'd rather save it for Jennings, Kampman, Collins, etc.

[RashanGary]

I'm not worried about the DE's. Jenkins, Jolly and Malone look like good fits. Harrell has an outside chance of coming back. There is the draft. Kamp is going to play some end in sub packages. I'd love to add more, but I don't think it's the biggest worry right now.

NT is a big concern IMO. Pickett is OK if he has a guy at least as good as him to rotate with, but all we have is Pickett and as far as I can tell, it's not enough. Our defense will not be better than average until we get that fixed.

After the Grey Beards and Tramon, I can't stand our corners.
After Collins, I'm really unsure of our safeties.
After Kampman and Hawk, I'm unsure of our LB's


The defense obviously needs help, but DE's seem to be the least of our worries and there isn't much out there to help the other spots. We have to count on development from within, the draft and FA classes of the future because there isn't much out there for us right now.

[Bretsky]

good gossip......but with our DL.....probably

It may be gossip, but how else do you explain him getting little interest? I didn't realize he was benched for 4 games last year. And he's the guy we had to have. Him or Canty. Canty isn't a bad player, but people make him out to be a stud or something. I'm glad we didn't pay the price for Canty. I'd rather save it for Jennings, Kampman, Collins, etc.


Sounds like a cool justification, but we would have been fine paying Canty, Jennings, Kampman, and Collins. I never thought Igor was the must have. I wish; I can't help myself but I fully expect to be disappointed by TTT in free agency.

[Willard]

well he came from a winner, and 2 years ago he started 10 games

i hope he brings some of that steelers attitude
We know Ted really goes for that "Pittsburgh macho" type....

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sounds like a cool justification, but we would have been fine paying Canty, Jennings, Kampman, and Collins. I never thought Igor was the must have. I wish; I can't help myself but I fully expect to be disappointed by TTT in free agency.

For what Canty got, I'm okay with seeing what we get in the draft or getting a more reasonably priced Holliday, Douglas, Carter, Weaver, etc.

[Lurker64]

I wonder, how many of the people who are terribly concerned about the state of the defensive line going into 2009 were also terribly concerned about the TE, FB, and WR corps position going into 2007. Since, if I remember correctly, a lot of people were terribly unhappy that Thompson did nothing to fill those holes at about this point during the Free Agency period (Justin Griffith anybody?), but we still seemed to do pretty well at TE, FB, and WR in the 2007 season.

It's entirely possible that football fans and "professional football talent evaluators and coaches" see the state of the Packers defensive line in slightly different lights.

I mean, we could use depth, anybody can see that, but even Olshansky'st $4.5 million/year for 4 years is a lot to pay for depth. Not many NFL teams pay >$3 million per year to sign a backup.

[Bretsky]

I wonder, how many of the people who are terribly concerned about the state of the defensive line going into 2009 were also terribly concerned about the TE, FB, and WR corps position going into 2007. Since, if I remember correctly, a lot of people were terribly unhappy that Thompson did nothing to fill those holes at about this point during the Free Agency period (Justin Griffith anybody?), but we still seemed to do pretty well at TE, FB, and WR in the 2007 season.

It's entirely possible that football fans and "professional football talent evaluators and coaches" see the state of the Packers defensive line in slightly different lights.

I mean, we could use depth, anybody can see that, but even Olshansky'st $4.5 million/year for 4 years is a lot to pay for depth. Not many NFL teams pay >$3 million per year to sign a backup.

Great point about the WR's
Our fullbacks are still nothing special
But you are right; anything is entirely possible

I don't think many of us were thinking Igor was a backup; now the rest of the bodies would certainly qualify IMO.

I do think TT will cut the duct tape enclosing his wallet again to bring in some more blue light specials to compete.

[Fred's Slacks]

Well, now that Igor's gone, I really hope they show some interest in Holliday. He's high character, experienced in the scheme and seams to still have something left in the tank. The kicker is he's a guy who actually wants to come here. They may not have to outbid everyone by $1 mil to convince him to come.

[KYPack]

This is the boob who shot his mouth off about Brady & company before they played them in '07. He then got torched on multiple big plays.

Yep.

He’s best known for guaranteeing a Steelers win against the then-unbeaten Patriots in Week 14 of that season, however, and playing poorly in a 34-13 Patriots victory.

We'll see what he learned from that fiasco. It was a real un-Steeler thing to do. Bet Tomlin got in his ass after that one.

[Charles Woodson]

Bet Tomlin got in his ass after that one.
Wow, now KY was that necessary? This is the packers forum, not the gay porn one

:lol:

[Guiness]

Still want Igor?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40870762.html

I've hesitated to say much about this guy, because I don't like to stereotype, but this doesn't surprise me.

I've spent most of the last year working in Russia, and this attitude is not one that surprises me. Quite self-centered, overall - I think this is learned behavior, because you needed to look out for yourself in order to survive. But arrogance also seems quite common.

[SnakeLH2006]

Wow after reading the JS article...Snake is floored we beat KC to the punch as the last NFL team to sign a FA. Let's just hope this guy is not as stupid as Javon Walker. What happened to that Wonderlic phenom? :lol:

Either way...Hennesey on Snake for TT's FA bonanza party. I got the Limo rented out with Drew Berrymore for Fritz.

Joe Arrigo has it a good source over on PackerChatters it's 100% confirmed there will be SEVERAL (his quote, not Snake's) drunken celebratory parade floats going on in GB tomorrow for this amazing Reggie White type move. Also, on rapport with Bedard, former Packer great Cletidius Hunt will be at the float signing autographs for the celebration.

We going BIG TIME baby! Let the party start...TT's making BIG MOVES with that gangsta lean yo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gspA_hVis

BTW...Kool Keith is the man (1:20-2:03)..seen that cat in concert many times over the past 10 years...Just amazing...best MC EVER..just saying...Snake is serious here and loves his raps old school. Keith is the man. 8-)

[Rastak]

This is the boob who shot his mouth off about Brady & company before they played them in '07. He then got torched on multiple big plays.

The very same.

[Packnut]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

[pittstang5]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Rouse.....really? If anything, I figured Peprah would be gone. Where'd you hear Rouse?

[KYPack]

Bet Tomlin got in his ass after that one.
Wow, now KY was that necessary? This is the packers forum, not the gay porn one

:lol:

Good catch, Wood.

Ya got me on that one.

[wist43]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Rouse.....really? If anything, I figured Peprah would be gone. Where'd you hear Rouse?

TT will undoubtedly draft a S in the second round, and cut Rouse; and a WR in the 2nd round, and cut Jones; and an OT/G in the 2nd round and cut Spitz...

The plan is coming together beautifully :D

[Fritz]

Wow after reading the JS article...Snake is floored we beat KC to the punch as the last NFL team to sign a FA. Let's just hope this guy is not as stupid as Javon Walker. What happened to that Wonderlic phenom? :lol:

Either way...Hennesey on Snake for TT's FA bonanza party. I got the Limo rented out with Drew Berrymore for Fritz.

Joe Arrigo has it a good source over on PackerChatters it's 100% confirmed there will be SEVERAL (his quote, not Snake's) drunken celebratory parade floats going on in GB tomorrow for this amazing Reggie White type move. Also, on rapport with Bedard, former Packer great Cletidius Hunt will be at the float signing autographs for the celebration.

We going BIG TIME baby! Let the party start...TT's making BIG MOVES with that gangsta lean yo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gspA_hVis

BTW...Kool Keith is the man (1:20-2:03)..seen that cat in concert many times over the past 10 years...Just amazing...best MC EVER..just saying...Snake is serious here and loves his raps old school. Keith is the man. 8-)


Thanks, Snake! Does Drew know any of this yet?

[Fritz]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Rouse.....really? If anything, I figured Peprah would be gone. Where'd you hear Rouse?

TT will undoubtedly draft a S in the second round, and cut Rouse; and a WR in the 2nd round, and cut Jones; and an OT/G in the 2nd round and cut Spitz...

The plan is coming together beautifully :D

Okay, Wist, I'd like to save this post so at the end of camp we can see if the prediction comes true. Clearly, I doubt it will.And why is Rouse a "waste" after two seasons? So said many on this site after Collins's second year...and Sharper's....

[cpk1994]

Wow after reading the JS article...Snake is floored we beat KC to the punch as the last NFL team to sign a FA. Let's just hope this guy is not as stupid as Javon Walker. What happened to that Wonderlic phenom? :lol:

Either way...Hennesey on Snake for TT's FA bonanza party. I got the Limo rented out with Drew Berrymore for Fritz.

Joe Arrigo has it a good source over on PackerChatters it's 100% confirmed there will be SEVERAL (his quote, not Snake's) drunken celebratory parade floats going on in GB tomorrow for this amazing Reggie White type move. Also, on rapport with Bedard, former Packer great Cletidius Hunt will be at the float signing autographs for the celebration.

We going BIG TIME baby! Let the party start...TT's making BIG MOVES with that gangsta lean yo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gspA_hVis

BTW...Kool Keith is the man (1:20-2:03)..seen that cat in concert many times over the past 10 years...Just amazing...best MC EVER..just saying...Snake is serious here and loves his raps old school. Keith is the man. 8-)


Thanks, Snake! Does Drew know any of this yet?Chloroform should take care of that tiny deatil. :lol:

[Lurker64]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Jesus Christ... No offense, but do you actually read and critically analyze things, or do you just have an agenda?

You have two safety positiions: Free Safety and Strong Safety. We've done very well at FS where Collins has started to become a great player. However, we have a question mark at Strong Safety, as Rouse can't play it (he's a FS, and hence Colllins's backup), while Bigby is coming off an injury and is somewhat unreliable, and Peprah is just no good. So because Rouse, a TT draft pick, is relegated to backing up another TT draft pick, that's some sort of colossal failure? No.

Smith was brought in to compete with Bigby for the starting Strong Safety job. He was also brought in because an important role of the safety in many schemes is to call the defense, while we have no safeties who have actually played in this defense before, while Smith has.

Rouse isn't a failure, he's just a guy who can only play one position and he's backing up a guy who, last time I checked, just made the pro bowl at that position. There's nothing weird or wrong about having a late 3rd round draft pick backing up an all pro (who you also, coincidentally, drafted.) If anything this signing is because ANOTHER Ted Thompson Free Agent Pickup was WASTED... oh wait, Bigby has already made enough plays to justify what they gave up to get him... i.e. nothing. But realistically, it's more because last year we had three safeties get hurt, and the guy who was fourth in line really wasn't any good.

[KYPack]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Rouse.....really? If anything, I figured Peprah would be gone. Where'd you hear Rouse?

TT will undoubtedly draft a S in the second round, and cut Rouse; and a WR in the 2nd round, and cut Jones; and an OT/G in the 2nd round and cut Spitz...

The plan is coming together beautifully :D

OK Wist. I'll second guess the hell out of ya if this don't happen!

I like all 3 guys.
Spitz had one suck year last season, but I think he'll come around. Rouse is a slow bugger and he peeks WAY too much, but he's got a lot of ball sense. Experience will help him as will his new DB coach. Darren Perry is one of the best secondary coaches in the league. He'll teach Rouse how to read his keys and keep his peepers out of the backfield.

The guy you might be right about is Jones. He just may have a chronic knee.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Smith is a whole lot better than Peprah, and a fiery player. We definitely improved with this move.

Definitely?

He sounds like kind of a knucklehead.
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/441975

I noticed he got a 100K signing bonus. That isn't money for a guy who has starter potential. Maybe he is better than the other backups, but I'll wait and see.

[bobblehead]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

I feel obligated to make this ugly excuse. Not every guy drafted works out. There I said it, you got me. Oh, btw, where did you hear this, cuz on draft day all packer fans were celebrating the rouse pick as I recall (he had a fast 40 time for a 6'4" guy and according to rats that makes a guy a stud.)

If I recall correctly a lot of people were disgusted with the slow James Jones but were very high on the speedy David Clowney as well.

What can I say, I think Jones will have a very good year this season, the problem will be that we got 4 good WR and one that could be the 3 on some teams.

[esoxx]

Rouse is junk.

[wist43]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Rouse.....really? If anything, I figured Peprah would be gone. Where'd you hear Rouse?

TT will undoubtedly draft a S in the second round, and cut Rouse; and a WR in the 2nd round, and cut Jones; and an OT/G in the 2nd round and cut Spitz...

The plan is coming together beautifully :D

OK Wist. I'll second guess the hell out of ya if this don't happen!

I like all 3 guys.
Spitz had one suck year last season, but I think he'll come around. Rouse is a slow bugger and he peeks WAY too much, but he's got a lot of ball sense. Experience will help him as will his new DB coach. Darren Perry is one of the best secondary coaches in the league. He'll teach Rouse how to read his keys and keep his peepers out of the backfield.

The guy you might be right about is Jones. He just may have a chronic knee.

Fella's, it's called sarcasm :D

[texaspackerbacker]

As somebody said, the standard for comparison here is Peprah, and Smith seems to be a significant improvement. I think getting Perry as a coach both helped sign him and has something to do with why wanted him.

Olshansky signed with Dallas? Good. He wouldn't have been a bargain anyway.

[Joemailman]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Okay, I think I got it. If TT doesn't sign someone, it's proof that he is cheap, or asleep, or a turtle etc. If he does sign someone, it's proof that he wasted a draft pick. There are no limits to the wisdom available here.

[KYPack]

Fella's, it's called sarcasm :D

It's hard to tell with you, Brah.

[Joemailman]

This is the boob who shot his mouth off about Brady & company before they played them in '07. He then got torched on multiple big plays.

Yep.

He’s best known for guaranteeing a Steelers win against the then-unbeaten Patriots in Week 14 of that season, however, and playing poorly in a 34-13 Patriots victory.

We'll see what he learned from that fiasco. It was a real un-Steeler thing to do. Bet Tomlin got in his ass after that one.

Darren Perry was his position coach when Smith was a rookie in 2006. I suspect Perry may have had something to do with TT being willing to go after Smith despite a bad 2008. He was good enough to start 4 games as a rookie, and had pretty good numbers. The wheels kind of came off last year, but sometimes a change of scenery can be good for a guy.

[The Shadow]

This guy was signed because ANOTHER Ted Thompson draft pick was WASTED. It look's like the Rouse "experiment" at saftey is now over. Not surprising as most scouts believed the only way Rouse would be of value is to be converted to LB, but once again, Teddy thought he knew better.

Ok, let the excuses begin! :lol:

Maybe time to give the whining a rest?

[SnakeLH2006]

Wow after reading the JS article...Snake is floored we beat KC to the punch as the last NFL team to sign a FA. Let's just hope this guy is not as stupid as Javon Walker. What happened to that Wonderlic phenom? :lol:

Either way...Hennesey on Snake for TT's FA bonanza party. I got the Limo rented out with Drew Berrymore for Fritz.

Joe Arrigo has it a good source over on PackerChatters it's 100% confirmed there will be SEVERAL (his quote, not Snake's) drunken celebratory parade floats going on in GB tomorrow for this amazing Reggie White type move. Also, on rapport with Bedard, former Packer great Cletidius Hunt will be at the float signing autographs for the celebration.

We going BIG TIME baby! Let the party start...TT's making BIG MOVES with that gangsta lean yo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gspA_hVis

BTW...Kool Keith is the man (1:20-2:03)..seen that cat in concert many times over the past 10 years...Just amazing...best MC EVER..just saying...Snake is serious here and loves his raps old school. Keith is the man. 8-)


Thanks, Snake! Does Drew know any of this yet?Chloroform should take care of that tiny deatil. :lol:

CPK was close, though, as Sebastian Janikowski is on a flight for Sunday morning in GB with some GHB to "seal the deal" for Fritz and Drew. :shock:

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/jay_mohr/09/28/mohr.sports/tx_janikowski.jpg