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Joemailman
03-11-2009, 10:01 PM
Not gonna try to predict any tradeups or tradedowns here. Just the picks as they are now. Hope Denver doesn't trade Cutler to the Lions...

1. Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

2. St. Louis Jason Smith OT Baylor

3. Kansas City Aaron Curry LB Wake F.

4. Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

5. Cleveland Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.

6. Cincinnati B.J. Raji DT Boston C.


7. Oakland Eugene Monroe OT Virginia

8. Jacksonville Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

9. Green Bay Brian Orakpo DE Texas

10. San Francisco Mark Sanchez QB USC

11. Buffalo Everette Brown DE Florida St.


12. Denver Vontae Davis CB Illinois

13. Washington Michael Oher OT Mississippi

14. New Orleans Brian Cushing LB USC

15. Houston Chris Wells RB Ohio St.

16. San Diego Ray Maualaga LB USC

17. N.Y. Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida


18, Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU

19. Tampa Bay Aaron Maybin DE Penn St.

20. Detroit Peria Jerry DT Miss.

21. Philadelphia Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

22. Minnesota Andre Smith OT Alabama

23. New England Clay Matthews LB USC

24. Atlanta James Lauranaitis LB Ohio St.

25. Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland

26. Baltimore Brandon Pettigrew TE Okla St.

27. Indianapolis Hakeem Nicks WR No. Car.

28. Philadelphia Jared Cook TE So.Car.

29. N.Y. Giants Donald Brown WR U Conn

30. Tennessee Larry English DE No. Ill.

31. Arizona Alex Mack C Cal

32. Pittsburgh Max Unger C Oregon

Lurker64
03-11-2009, 10:07 PM
I think Cushing and Maybin are better fit at Elephant Backer for Green Bay than Orakpo. Cushing for the immediate impact, Maybin for the long term upside. I don't trust Orakpo's hips in space.

Partial
03-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Would love the Orakpo pick. He is powerful enough to be very good. The solution is to don't play him in space much, Lurker. How often does DeMarcus Ware drop back :D

I would be fine with Jenkins, Raji or Orakpo. Right now one has to be looking at Raji with the lack of OL depth, but if that gets fortified I'd probably want Orakpo as he's a beast. The more I watch his clips on youtube, the more I like him.

red
03-11-2009, 10:30 PM
I think Cushing and Maybin are better fit at Elephant Backer for Green Bay than Orakpo. Cushing for the immediate impact, Maybin for the long term upside. I don't trust Orakpo's hips in space.

i don't trust cushing to pass a roids test

and he's the biggest douche in the draft

rbaloha1
03-11-2009, 11:41 PM
Orakpo has the makings of a bust. Hopefully TT does not select.

LT or trading down may be the way to go.

Guiness
03-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Cushing's got some serious moob action going on. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

How much money did A. Smith make J. Smith? He should send him a thank you card for blowing it.

Brandon494
03-12-2009, 04:26 PM
4. Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

Don't see them taking Crabtree after signing whosurmomma

Joemailman
03-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Why not? They don't have anyone else at WR who is outstanding. You need at least 2. Besides, Housh may not be a #1 guy. He may have benefited from the attention drawn by Chad Johnson.

Partial
03-12-2009, 04:39 PM
Housh is going to be their #1, Crabtree is going to be starting as a rook though likely for Seattle. You don't pass up that sort of talent.

Fritz
03-12-2009, 05:05 PM
I think Cushing and Maybin are better fit at Elephant Backer for Green Bay than Orakpo. Cushing for the immediate impact, Maybin for the long term upside. I don't trust Orakpo's hips in space.


Dude better not be an astronaut, then.
:rs: :rs:

green_bowl_packer
03-12-2009, 05:50 PM
Mike Mayock and Mike Lombardi on the NFL network have Orakpo as the next Vernon Gholston, and have some serious doubts about Cushing in that if he couldn't be a 3 down LB at USC, he wouldn't be one in the NFL and wouldn't be worth a high draft pick.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f303d1

Fritz
03-12-2009, 06:10 PM
Trade down, get Tyson Jackson?

Joemailman
03-12-2009, 06:15 PM
I'm all for trading down, but to who, and who is the player that will make a team want to trade up? Maybe Sanchez, but Tampa Bay doesn't have a second. Jets do, but we already have their 3rd, so they may not want to.

red
03-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Trade down, get Tyson Jackson?

i would have no problem what so ever with that

texaspackerbacker
03-12-2009, 07:47 PM
All I can say is I hope not.

I don't like Orakpo--and that's after having seen him play numerous times; I don't like Maybin; And I don't know much about Cushing, but I really don't like the idea of the Packers taking an OLB.

Ideally, we get a shot at Eugene Monroe or Jason Smith. Don't rule out Andre Smith either.

I also would love to see the Packers take Malcolm Jenkins, and I wouldn't mind seeing them take Vontae Davis.

Also, Crabtree likely will fall more than shown here. I'm not real enthused about the idea of taking him, but that would be better than anything in the defensive front seven or anything other than OT on offense.

The Shadow
03-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Davis seems to be an asshat.

privatepacker
03-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Here's my question....BPA and TT is on the clock. Crabtree is sitting there does he get him?
Before we even get to the argument of too many receivers and need I have one question and that is if Crabtree is a Randy Moss/Marvin Harrison/Michael Irving type receiver then why wouldn't TT take him? If he's a receiver that is truly a play maker then why wouldn't he get drafted by TT? If he's a Jenning/Reggie Wayne type receiver then no way does he get selected.
IMO, we get the best Defense guy available but (big) IF Crabtree is all that then I could see him being selected by the Packers.

red
03-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Davis seems to be an asshat.

he pry gets that from his brother

you know

vernon "boy i sure am glad the packers didn't pick me" davis

Bossman641
03-12-2009, 10:20 PM
Here's my question....BPA and TT is on the clock. Crabtree is sitting there does he get him?
Before we even get to the argument of too many receivers and need I have one question and that is if Crabtree is a Randy Moss/Marvin Harrison/Michael Irving type receiver then why wouldn't TT take him? If he's a receiver that is truly a play maker then why wouldn't he get drafted by TT? If he's a Jenning/Reggie Wayne type receiver then no way does he get selected.
IMO, we get the best Defense guy available but (big) IF Crabtree is all that then I could see him being selected by the Packers.

I'be been wrestling with this question for the past few weeks and still haven't decided what I'd want TT to do. I'm leaning toward picking Crabtree if the situation arose. Can you imagine the outcry if that happened?

Partial
03-12-2009, 10:23 PM
There'd be outcry, but it'd be worth it. Also, I think the market for trade might be bigger for Crabby than dirty Sanchez.

KYPack
03-12-2009, 10:42 PM
The local tom-toms are beating pretty hard for the Bengals to take an OT. They could take either a LT OR a RT.

I really don't see Andre Smith falling all the way to the Vikes, either.

He wouldn't get by Minn, that's for sure

Bossman641
03-12-2009, 11:08 PM
The local tom-toms are beating pretty hard for the Bengals to take an OT. They could take either a LT OR a RT.

I really don't see Andre Smith falling all the way to the Vikes, either.

He wouldn't get by Minn, that's for sure

What do they have to say about Raji? Do they want him or do they say that's too high?

Deputy Nutz
03-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Nice go Joe, about 4 years ago a did a mock draft with explanations for each pick. I took that draft 6 rounds deep but couldn't keep up with all the trades.

I don't care anymore, as some asswipe said, I was trying to be the next Kiper.

KYPack
03-12-2009, 11:20 PM
The local tom-toms are beating pretty hard for the Bengals to take an OT. They could take either a LT OR a RT.

I really don't see Andre Smith falling all the way to the Vikes, either.

He wouldn't get by Minn, that's for sure

What do they have to say about Raji? Do they want him or do they say that's too high?

Very little on the Raj. They need a NT/DT type guy. They just need a tackle more. They lost starting tackle Stacy Andrews (who sucks, guess the Eagles think they can coach him up) and LT Levi Jones is on his last leg(s).

Most of the draft hype is on the great LT crop and which guy will be left and who might be a LT/RT guy.

Bretsky
03-12-2009, 11:32 PM
Here's my question....BPA and TT is on the clock. Crabtree is sitting there does he get him?
Before we even get to the argument of too many receivers and need I have one question and that is if Crabtree is a Randy Moss/Marvin Harrison/Michael Irving type receiver then why wouldn't TT take him? If he's a receiver that is truly a play maker then why wouldn't he get drafted by TT? If he's a Jenning/Reggie Wayne type receiver then no way does he get selected.
IMO, we get the best Defense guy available but (big) IF Crabtree is all that then I could see him being selected by the Packers.

I'be been wrestling with this question for the past few weeks and still haven't decided what I'd want TT to do. I'm leaning toward picking Crabtree if the situation arose. Can you imagine the outcry if that happened?



Absolutely have to take Crabtree if he's there at 9. Without Hesitation

CaliforniaCheez
03-13-2009, 04:31 AM
Oh come on now.

That is only the first round. How can you call it a mock draft.

I would rather see you make a draft board of your top 100 players than some 32 team first pick thing.

Some trades will screw that thing up anyway.

Fritz
03-13-2009, 05:51 AM
Cheese mocks your draft!

:rs:

Joemailman
03-13-2009, 12:32 PM
Some people like a little whine with their cheese. :wink: How about a 450 player big board?http://www.drafttek.com/2009players.asp

KYPack
03-13-2009, 01:36 PM
I halfway follow some southern college ball, but I can't say I've really heard much about this kid.

Georgia Tech defensive end Michael Johnson, a potential first-round draft pick, has set up private workouts/visits with the Atlanta Falcons, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Browns and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to a league source.Johnson is scheduled to visit the Buccaneers on April 2, the Redskins on April 4, the Browns on April 8 and the Falcons on Monday.

At 6-foot-6, 266 pounds, Johnson is a tall, lanky pass rusher who registered nine sacks and 17 1/2 tackles for losses last season and was named All-Atlantic Coast Conference. He was a finalist for the Bednarik and Hendricks awards.

According to a league source, the Green Bay Packers are high on Johnson.
The Cincinnati Bengals were well-represented at Johnson’s Pro Day.

Maybe Mission has a line on this guy.

He's a ninth pick in the draft?

red
03-13-2009, 01:43 PM
I halfway follow some southern college ball, but I can't say I've really heard much about this kid.

Georgia Tech defensive end Michael Johnson, a potential first-round draft pick, has set up private workouts/visits with the Atlanta Falcons, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Browns and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to a league source.Johnson is scheduled to visit the Buccaneers on April 2, the Redskins on April 4, the Browns on April 8 and the Falcons on Monday.

At 6-foot-6, 266 pounds, Johnson is a tall, lanky pass rusher who registered nine sacks and 17 1/2 tackles for losses last season and was named All-Atlantic Coast Conference. He was a finalist for the Bednarik and Hendricks awards.

According to a league source, the Green Bay Packers are high on Johnson.
The Cincinnati Bengals were well-represented at Johnson’s Pro Day.

Maybe Mission has a line on this guy.

He's a ninth pick in the draft?

NO

you've seriously never heard of him?

before the season started he was being called a top 10 pick. the problem was at that point he had never started or done much. the college season played itself out and he still didn't do much

the guy looks like a freak athlete, and he's all the things you could dream of in a 4-3 de. the only problem is he's never really been productive

he's very intriguing because of his size and the way he looks, but it seems likes its all show and no go.

last i heard he might be there in the second when we pick

Joemailman
03-13-2009, 01:44 PM
Most people have Johnson as a 2nd round pick. One of those guys whose production doesn't match his talent. I suspect he'd be a major reach at #9. http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Michael-Johnson.php

KYPack
03-13-2009, 02:31 PM
I halfway follow some southern college ball, but I can't say I've really heard much about this kid.

Georgia Tech defensive end Michael Johnson, a potential first-round draft pick, has set up private workouts/visits with the Atlanta Falcons, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Browns and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to a league source.Johnson is scheduled to visit the Buccaneers on April 2, the Redskins on April 4, the Browns on April 8 and the Falcons on Monday.

At 6-foot-6, 266 pounds, Johnson is a tall, lanky pass rusher who registered nine sacks and 17 1/2 tackles for losses last season and was named All-Atlantic Coast Conference. He was a finalist for the Bednarik and Hendricks awards.

According to a league source, the Green Bay Packers are high on Johnson.
The Cincinnati Bengals were well-represented at Johnson’s Pro Day.

Maybe Mission has a line on this guy.

He's a ninth pick in the draft?

NO

you've seriously never heard of him?

before the season started he was being called a top 10 pick. the problem was at that point he had never started or done much. the college season played itself out and he still didn't do much

the guy looks like a freak athlete, and he's all the things you could dream of in a 4-3 de. the only problem is he's never really been productive

he's very intriguing because of his size and the way he looks, but it seems likes its all show and no go.

last I heard he might be there in the second when we pick

No, Red, I haven't heard boo about the guy, but I'm a bad example. I follow college ball about 90% less than I used to. I get most of my draft info from PackerRats and then check 'em out on YouTube, etc.

You, Nutz, B, and most of the other usual suspects are where I hear about these kids.

I thought this article was saying he was our # 1 pick. A 2 sounds about right. He seems like a 4-3 dude. He seems a little big for a SOLB and too small for a 3-4 DE. We got enuff of those kind of guys.

mission
03-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Most of my friends are Tech grads (they keep me outta trouble) with season tickets and they absolutely hate the guy. Think he's lazy, takes plays off and hasn't done enough in the off season to reach his potential (redundant?). These are the same guys who think Tashard Choice is the greatest RB ever ...

The two games I got to go to he didn't really impress me much... didnt seem like he was bigger, faster, or stronger than anyone else on the field or at least guys he was playing around.

I definitely think a good mid-late round first pick... if we're high on him, it's only in the scenario of trading down. He's not worth the locked money with that kind of unknown.

Top 10? Only because they thought he'd be up around 280 this year, bangin guys around...

Joemailman
03-13-2009, 06:05 PM
He has a reputation for taking plays off, but he has the speed to be a premier pass rusher. Some team looking for a pass rush specialist will risk a 2nd round pick on him.