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Patler
04-15-2009, 09:03 AM
GP Press Gazette has reported that Vicki Vannieuwenhoven, VP of Finance resigned. She has been with the Packers since 1995, and was promoted to VP a year ago or so. During the hunt for a new President, she was identified as a rising star in the organization.

I have seen no reason or explanation for her resignation.

Little Whiskey
04-15-2009, 09:29 AM
I have seen no reason or explanation for her resignation.

Ted Thompson :lol:

KYPack
04-15-2009, 09:34 AM
I believe she reported to Murphy.

Sounds like he's getting his own people in place.

14 years on the gig, maybe time to move on.

Patler
04-15-2009, 09:40 AM
She was one of Murphy's "inner circle" in his reorganization last year. Perhaps she received an offer too good to pass up. There was really no place further for her to go right now with the Packers. The Packers may have wanted her to stay, but might not have had enough to offer her to compete.

sheepshead
04-15-2009, 09:42 AM
She's the new PackerRats owner!

Waldo
04-15-2009, 09:43 AM
VP of Finance.....

Perhaps the balance sheet of the Packers investments was a lot worse than expected given the financial climate.

That 150M rainy day fund/slush fund most likely isn't just sitting in some bank account somewhere.

If it was invested in the derivatives market or mortgage backed bonds, it could have lost a significant amount of money. It isn't easy to tell the boss that you lost 10's of millions of dollars.

Patler
04-15-2009, 09:54 AM
VP of Finance.....

Perhaps the balance sheet of the Packers investments was a lot worse than expected given the financial climate.

That 150M rainy day fund/slush fund most likely isn't just sitting in some bank account somewhere.

If it was invested in the derivatives market or mortgage backed bonds, it could have lost a significant amount of money. It isn't easy to tell the boss that you lost 10's of millions of dollars.

I think that is probably reading more into the situation than exists.
What was her future with the Packers? About the only place for her to go would be into Murphy's spot. How likely was that? Not very, in my opinion; and even if it was, it would be a long way down the road. I think this was more likely a career decision on her part, be satisfied where she is at or strive for something more.

ND72
04-15-2009, 10:36 AM
we could use some new administrators in our school district...I'll have to call her. :lol:

CaliforniaCheez
04-15-2009, 11:40 AM
GP Press Gazette has reported that Vicki Vannieuwenhoven, VP of Finance resigned. She has been with the Packers since 1995, and was promoted to VP a year ago or so. During the hunt for a new President, she was identified as a rising star in the organization.

I have seen no reason or explanation for her resignation.


The stock market went down and the Packer investments of the franchise preservation fund with it.

She is another one who can thank Obama for losing her job.

Patler
04-15-2009, 11:50 AM
Why do so many seem to assume that she was forced out, rather than simply resigning to pursue a better opportunity?

Freak Out
04-15-2009, 12:06 PM
Obama is the new owner of PackerRats.

Gunakor
04-15-2009, 12:14 PM
Obama is the new owner of PackerRats.

Better not be. Obama is a Bears fan.

SlimPickens
04-15-2009, 01:24 PM
Hey CC maybe you should get your facts straight. Obama wasn't President when the economy crashed. You might know that if you watched the news instead of getting you facts out of a Cracker Jacks box. Talk about denial, now you guys are already trying to rewrite history. Usually people wait more than a couple of months to try that! But considering the source . . .

HarveyWallbangers
04-15-2009, 01:37 PM
Obama wasn't President when the economy crashed.

He didn't say anything about the economy. He talked about the stock market crashing.

Guiness
04-15-2009, 01:45 PM
Security around Obama wasn't as tight as elsewhere when he was on his visit up this way. I swear I was close enough for him to hear me yell "THE BEARS SUCK".

Gunakor
04-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Obama wasn't President when the economy crashed.

He didn't say anything about the economy. He talked about the stock market crashing.

The market crash is a result of things that happened before February of 2009. The market also began it's decline before February 2009. Obama wasn't personally responsible for either occurance.

Partial
04-15-2009, 02:24 PM
Way to ruin a good thread, guys.

I suspect that Patler is right in his assessment. Do you know how old she is Patler? I can definitely see an ambitious person moving on if there isn't anywhere to go up.

Patler
04-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Way to ruin a good thread, guys.

I suspect that Patler is right in his assessment. Do you know how old she is Patler? I can definitely see an ambitious person moving on if there isn't anywhere to go up.

Per her bio, she graduated from college in 1988. That would make her 43 or so. Clearly a time in her career to assess her goals and current situation.

Gunakor
04-15-2009, 03:07 PM
Way to ruin a good thread, guys.

How did we ruin the thread? Her position directly relates to the economy and the stock market if she was in charge of the preservation fund and how those monies are allocated. A point was made that this may have had something to do with her resignation, and it might. How is presenting a logical explaination and debating that explaination ruining the thread?

Partial
04-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Debate the merits of the issue, ie. how the stock market collasping could affect the Packers.

This thread should be devoid of any and all politics in my opinion.

swede
04-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Even I know what FYI is for, gentlemen; take it outside.

Under Bob Harlan our franchise seemed quite peaceful and it lacked front office drama--and I hate front office drama. There may have been times when people left for other places but they left quietly and often with best wishes and no back-channel sniping to a media ear.

I certainly hope that this departure signifies nothing other than Vicki felt it was time to move on, and on she will go with the boss' blessing. More drama than that is bad for business.

Bretsky
04-15-2009, 05:52 PM
Obama is the new owner of PackerRats.

Better not be. Obama is a Bears fan.


Maybe she can be our next President :lol:

Bretsky
04-15-2009, 05:53 PM
oops.......good points

Let's keep the political BS in another forum

Tyrone Bigguns
04-15-2009, 06:46 PM
GP Press Gazette has reported that Vicki Vannieuwenhoven, VP of Finance resigned. She has been with the Packers since 1995, and was promoted to VP a year ago or so. During the hunt for a new President, she was identified as a rising star in the organization.

I have seen no reason or explanation for her resignation.

That is wierd as I'm looking at:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/GPG0101/70626119/1269/GPGopinion

And it doesn't mention it.

One thing that did cross my mind...she was promoted from a finance area to one that is also in "charge of the marketing, ticketing and premium sales/guest services divisions."

Maybe this role didn't suit her?

IN the article she talks about family...maybe her role was too demanding..couldn't be there for her kids, etc.

Patler
04-16-2009, 06:51 AM
GP Press Gazette has reported that Vicki Vannieuwenhoven, VP of Finance resigned. She has been with the Packers since 1995, and was promoted to VP a year ago or so. During the hunt for a new President, she was identified as a rising star in the organization.

I have seen no reason or explanation for her resignation.

That is wierd as I'm looking at:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/GPG0101/70626119/1269/GPGopinion

And it doesn't mention it.

One thing that did cross my mind...she was promoted from a finance area to one that is also in "charge of the marketing, ticketing and premium sales/guest services divisions."

Maybe this role didn't suit her?

IN the article she talks about family...maybe her role was too demanding..couldn't be there for her kids, etc.

There is something wrong with the dateline on that article. It seems to be listing the current date, not the date of the article. Right now it reads April 16, 2009, and the article states:

Vicki Vannieuwenhoven made history in April when the Green Bay Packers appointed her vice president of finance—
She was named VP of Finance April 3, 2007.

AtlPackFan
04-16-2009, 11:19 AM
This is probably old news but I didn't see it posted anywhere...

The Journal/Sentinel is reporting that the Green Bay Press Gazette is reporting that "Vicki Vannieuwenhoven, the first female vice president (finance) in team history, resigned to spend more time with her three children while her husband is deployed to Afghanistan".

Gunakor
04-16-2009, 11:35 AM
Debate the merits of the issue, ie. how the stock market collasping could affect the Packers.

This thread should be devoid of any and all politics in my opinion.

My argument was that this move might have been political in nature. It's hard to keep my argument devoid of all politics if the point of my argument is that the reason for the move could have had something to do with politics.

If having a political arugment about something Packer related is an issue for you, which forum would you like it to end up in? Whichever is decided I'll happily go along with. I'm not trying to cause trouble.

As it turns out this probably had nothing to do with politics, so I'll leave that out of this thread from here on out. But the question still stands, if there is a topic that is both Packer related AND political in nature, where should it go?

Gunakor
04-16-2009, 11:37 AM
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MadScientist
04-16-2009, 01:38 PM
Debate the merits of the issue, ie. how the stock market collasping could affect the Packers.

This thread should be devoid of any and all politics in my opinion.

My argument was that this move might have been political in nature. It's hard to keep my argument devoid of all politics if the point of my argument is that the reason for the move could have had something to do with politics.

If having a political arugment about something Packer related is an issue for you, which forum would you like it to end up in? Whichever is decided I'll happily go along with. I'm not trying to cause trouble.

As it turns out this probably had nothing to do with politics, so I'll leave that out of this thread from here on out. But the question still stands, if there is a topic that is both Packer related AND political in nature, where should it go?

Academic political comments for things directly related to the Packers would be OK, but the problem is that they devolve quickly into mindless rants. This quote:


She is another one who can thank Obama for losing her job.
Sent this thread down the wrong path. Can we avoid this sort of thing here? If not, off to FYI with it.

CaliforniaCheez
04-17-2009, 09:03 AM
Obama's war on properity and his hatred of capitalism is affecting everyone in this country, especially those having to pay ever increasing taxes.

I'm sure it has been very difficult to make the Packers money in this market which has lost so wealth since the election.

The Packers have postponed construction projects. That means fewer jobs and money flowing into the local economy.

Obama just keeps telling people it will get worse. Because he keeps saying doom and gloom everyone stops pending and things do become worse.

The Packers and Green Bay are negatively impacted by Obama and his socialist henchmen to great degree.

MadScientist
04-17-2009, 10:14 AM
Obama's war on properity and his hatred of capitalism is affecting everyone in this country, especially those having to pay ever increasing taxes.

I'm sure it has been very difficult to make the Packers money in this market which has lost so wealth since the election.

The Packers have postponed construction projects. That means fewer jobs and money flowing into the local economy.

Obama just keeps telling people it will get worse. Because he keeps saying doom and gloom everyone stops pending and things do become worse.

The Packers and Green Bay are negatively impacted by Obama and his socialist henchmen to great degree.
If you want to rant about Obama, take it to FYI.

Gunakor
04-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Obama's war on properity and his hatred of capitalism is affecting everyone in this country, especially those having to pay ever increasing taxes.

This is where your rant loses it's significance as it pertains to the Packers. If this was a political move on the part of the Packers, it would have to do with the stock market. The place where the money saved up in the frachise preservation fund has likely been allocated. That's it. Nothing to do with "those having to pay ever increasing taxes." And since the stock market has been in trouble since well before Obama took office, it's not about Obama specifically. I tried to correct this misinterpretation once already in this thread.

The way you worded this makes your rant sound like a hate speech about Obama, not a statement regarding anything to do with the Green Bay Packers. So I can understand why some would be frustrated with this line of posting in a Packers Football thread.

Zool
04-17-2009, 10:46 AM
What this thread needs is my interjection. You are welcome in advance.

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