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red
04-24-2009, 10:03 PM
this is absolutely insane

from PFT

$41.7 Million Guaranteed For Stafford
Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2009, 10:59 p.m.

Wow.

It’s done.

The Lions have agreed to terms with quarterback Matthew Stafford.

According to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, Stafford’s deal is worth $78 million over six years, with $41.7 million guaranteed.

Wow.

Partial
04-24-2009, 10:05 PM
How does that compare to Rodgers deal. I bet that exceeds it. Fuuuuuccck that.

red
04-24-2009, 10:07 PM
How does that compare to Rodgers deal. I bet that exceeds it. Fuuuuuccck that.

i can promise you rodgers didn't get 42 million guaranteed



thats just beyond wrong

i find myself praying to god right now that stafford turns into the bust i think he'll be, and the lions are left up shit creek

HarveyWallbangers
04-24-2009, 10:07 PM
The contract is worth $41.7 million guaranteed over six years. The number could grow to $78 million with incentives.

Well, if it's closer to $41M than $78M, that would be a big difference. Wonder what the incentives are.

pbmax
04-24-2009, 10:08 PM
Well, I would say the quality of QB'ing in the NFC North may have gotten better this offseason. And this time, the Packers neither had to pull off the trade of the decade or have the guy fall into their lap.

HarveyWallbangers
04-24-2009, 10:09 PM
Rumor is that the Rams have booked a ticket for Mark Sanchez to fly to St. Louis on Sunday.
:D

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/24/rams-buy-sunday-plane-ticket-for-qb-sanchez/

pbmax
04-24-2009, 10:09 PM
The contract is worth $41.7 million guaranteed over six years. The number could grow to $78 million with incentives.

Well, if it's closer to $41M than $78M, that would be a big difference. Wonder what the incentives are.
Probably monster numbers at the end if incentives are reached plus playing time bonuses for when he takes over. Wonder what this will do to Culpepper's new attitude?

RashanGary
04-24-2009, 10:10 PM
Rumor is that the Rams have booked a ticket for Mark Sanchez to fly to St. Louis on Sunday.
:D

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/24/rams-buy-sunday-plane-ticket-for-qb-sanchez/

Saw that. Trying to stir up interest in their pick? Seems fishy.

pbmax
04-24-2009, 10:13 PM
How does that compare to Rodgers deal. I bet that exceeds it. Fuuuuuccck that.

From rotoworld.com:

Contract Information for Aaron Rodgers

10/31/2008: Signed a six-year, $65 million contract. The cap-friendly deal (after 2009) contains $20 million guaranteed, including $12.9 million in the first year. Annual $500K workout bonuses are available in years two through six, and annual $500K roster bonuses are available in years three through through six. 2009: $680,000 (+ $7.42 guaranteed roster bonus), 2010: $6 million, 2011: $7.25 million, 2012: $8 million, 2013: $9.25 million, 2014: $10.5 million, 2015: Free Agent. Cap charges: $9.6525 million (2009), $6.5 million (2010), $7.75 million (2011), $8.5 million (2012), $9.75 million (2013), $11 million (2014).

RashanGary
04-24-2009, 10:14 PM
Rodgers has 6 years, 65 mil with 40 coming in the first 3 years and 20 guaranteed. Rodgers is ready to play right now though. His prime starts next year and he's already proven he's at least really good.


This guy gets 78 with 40 guaranteed and it's going to take at least a year, probably two or three before he's ready to play up to that contract. It mgiht never happen. Crazy. I would not want the top pick unless it was a once in a decade type player. You can't even consider making Curry the highest paid LB in the NFL before he takes a snap. Freaking nuts.

Gunakor
04-24-2009, 10:18 PM
I would not want the top pick unless it was a once in a decade type player.

Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf?

A once in a decade player could be there and you could still get it wrong. And many would have with that one.

It's no different than any other year. I don't think I'd want the top pick in any draft regardless of who was there.

Partial
04-24-2009, 10:18 PM
This pay scale is WAY out of hand. That guy has double the guaranteed cash that A-Rod does and A-Rod is at least proven to be capable of leading a team. This guy has shown nothing. For fucks sakes... Jeeezus.

RashanGary
04-24-2009, 10:24 PM
If the commish can get that rookie cap passed, he'll be doing a great thing for the fans but mostly for the players that deserve that money.

gbpackfan
04-24-2009, 10:40 PM
Several Points to make here:

1. Happy day for Packer fans. Stafford is a bust! Pure and simple. He makes careless decision after careless decision. I am very happy that Detroit wasted their pick and all their money on this scum bag.

2. Stafford is making way too much money! My God! How can the NFL keep paying these no-bodies this much. Aaron Rodgers deserves way more then Stafford! This problem needs to be fixed ASAP! What a joke.

3. I love the draft! Wowzer! Let's get this thing started!

digitaldean
04-24-2009, 10:44 PM
This dumba** contract is another reason Goodell better get a rookie salary cap in place.

I've heard retirees like Harry Sydney say he's OK with it, because the team is showing they want to win. HUH?! :?:

Any vet that thinks a snot-nosed junior QB should get the same as most of the starting QBs in the NFL should get their heads checked.

Even if he is a can't miss QB, considering the economic hellhole that is the US auto industry, it's beyond belief that the Lions would pay that much jack for a player.

Freak Out
04-24-2009, 10:44 PM
So do you still think they will sit him? :lol:

RashanGary
04-24-2009, 10:47 PM
So do you still think they will sit him? :lol:

Honestly, a rookie QB coming out as a JR from a non pro style offense?

They better or he'll be killed. 78 mil with 40 guaranteed. Holy shit. It's not sounding better every time I see it.

pbmax
04-25-2009, 12:29 AM
So do you still think they will sit him? :lol:

Honestly, a rookie QB coming out as a JR from a non pro style offense?

They better or he'll be killed. 78 mil with 40 guaranteed. Holy shit. It's not sounding better every time I see it.
Whoops. Wrong team, wrong coach. Carry on. :whist:

mission
04-25-2009, 02:07 AM
I may end up really showing my ass here but I'm calling it right now ...

Matthew Stafford will never live up to the #1 pick!

I honestly don't think he's that guy. He'll have some great plays but his INT #'s will be steep enough to never consider him a true stud. I'm fine with this pick for division "rivals".

LL2
04-25-2009, 06:33 AM
A top 5 pick these days is a curse. The amount of money these rookies get is insane. The NFL needs to get a new deal done with the players, and I'm sure they are going to push hard for the rookie cap. They should get it this time around, cuz I'm sure many vets do not like seeing rookies get so much money. The NBA got it right...now it's time for the NFL to get it right.

sheepshead
04-25-2009, 07:41 AM
We need a rookie salary cap. This is insane. Stafford has a better chance if he's NOT making this kind of money. Something needs to be done.