New Owner Introduction

[cpk1994]

........ and the leading vote getter gets stoned.


No wonder Tank acted like such an ass.Acted? He is still an ass. Just on another board.

[Little Whiskey]

Hi, Little Whiskey checking in. Don't post much in the Packer section. kinda a romper room member. If you have any questions on guns or nascar, let me know I can help you out.

I agree with some others. Admin you need to change your screen name. kinda boring. maybe call yourself, The Comish. and you ought to put in an avatar. oh ya and change the front page. the jamooo or whatever it says needs to go.

[pbmax]

My threat level is always heliotrope or taupe.

I think written rules are a good idea. Of course people are going to push boundaries, but that is happening already, just see this thread or any other Favre thread.

I think the rules should be contain parameters that are easy to identify and quantify, so there is a minimum of debate about whether or not a post "crosses" the line. Then I agree with Harlan, someone/somebodies should review the posts in question, in context and determine if they warrant action.

Action could be step by step, clear as day about how long you are gone. 1st offense, 2nd, third, etc. AdminMan would be the appeals process. Or he could ask someone to review the case.

Then, some two years down the line, justice would be served. :lol:

[Bretsky]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it. It's a one man show running the gig. Easy to say what should be done when you are not that guy. This is really directed at no poster.

The idealists can always theorize how to make things better; reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.

[Scott Campbell]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it. It's a one man show running the gig. Easy to say what should be done when you are not that guy. This is really directed at no poster.

The idealists can always theorize how to make things better; reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.


B, you really are passionate about this place. And I like the cut of your jib. Therefore, I withdraw my nomination for Partial (because Ziggy bet on him to get banned - never bet against Zig), and hereby nominate Bretsky to work with Skin and Harlan on the PackerRats employee handbook.

I'm getting all tingly just thinking about Forum Utopia.

[pbmax]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it.... reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.
Your point is well taken. But we have had voluntary Mods before, it may be possible to do something with the same kind of numbers. And everyone could contribute to the rule writing. I don't pretend to have all the answers, this is the only message board I use and one of only two I read. So my experience in this area is limited to actual meatspace.

As for changing something that is not broken, I think the bannings and unbannings and couple of days of Favrepalooza 2009 show that the same kinds of problematic posts are still with us. What I struggle to understand is the constant need to challenge posters personally. Sticking to the argument at hand is far easier.

[falco]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it. It's a one man show running the gig. Easy to say what should be done when you are not that guy. This is really directed at no poster.

Agreed, but it is a business in the sense that the posters are customers and that it would cease to exist if they stopped "shopping" here.


The idealists can always theorize how to make things better; reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.

Agree completely. I hope admin runs this place the same way that mad did.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it. It's a one man show running the gig.

The admin certainly has the option of functioning as the Great White Father, from whose mind and mood all rules shall slowly be revealed. The People will observe the Great White Father carefully, hoping to understand his ways. The taboos shall be learned as lessons when wayward tribesmen are disciplined. In time, the people will love and fear the Great White Father, the granter of the gift of chat.


The idealists can always theorize how to make things better; reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.

greatly risking? :lol: Bretsky, you were very nervous about even committing to packerrats in the first place, that was greatly risking to you. I bet you don't buy green bananas at the grocery store, can't know for sure if they'll turn yellow.

How does publishing the rules translate into risky, whacky idealism?

[gex]

This is not a business with a group of auditors functioning above it. It's a one man show running the gig.

The admin certainly has the option of functioning as the Great White Father, from whose mind and mood all rules shall slowly be revealed. The People will observe the Great White Father carefully, hoping to understand his ways. The taboos shall be learned as lessons when wayward tribesmen are disciplined. In time, the people will love and fear the Great White Father, the granter of the gift of chat.


The idealists can always theorize how to make things better; reality is you are greatly risking something that has been working if you try to fix something that is not broken.

greatly risking? :lol: Bretsky, you were very nervous about even committing to packerrats in the first place, that was greatly risking to you. I bet you don't buy green bananas at the grocery store, can't know for sure if they'll turn yellow.

How does publishing the rules translate into risky, whacky idealism?

That is BOMNF, Huck. :lol:

[SkinBasket]

I don't pretend to have all the answers, this is the only message board I use and one of only two I read. So my experience in this area is limited to actual meatspace.

Alright, I'll admit I don't know WTF is going on. What is "meatspace?" I have a lot of ideas, and a lot of those are pretty fucking perverse, but I doubt any of them are right.

[Bretsky]

greatly risking? :lol: Bretsky, you were very nervous about even committing to packerrats in the first place, that was greatly risking to you. I bet you don't buy green bananas at the grocery store, can't know for sure if they'll turn yellow.

How does publishing the rules translate into risky, whacky idealism?[/quote]


Harlan,

This will be to your surprise, but I'm the guy who was invested 100% in technology stocks during the Internet Boom and Bust, and I felt the glory and then the pain as my stocks crashed. I hate conservative drug stocks; now I gamble in Bank Stocks. I play blackjack because slots are too dam boring and conservative at the casino.

I remain vested in high risk stocks and high risk/high reward mutual funds.

As for the CE, I wasn't comfortable with the idea of feeling like I might be stabbing somebody in the back by moving to another forum in the way it was all occuring. I wasn't part of the in group who led the charge because I didn't like the way it seemed to be going down.

Once the other forum was closed down to a perceived betrayal by the CE guy, I was right over here and my allegiance was here. That really had nothing whatsoever to do with my risk level. If you think that had anything to do with risk you misunderstood my actions.

We are polar opposites; we probably could not work in the same office for the same company and co-exist.

[Bretsky]

Sorry Scott

That is one committee I could never be a part of; I'd plead with Skin to stop posting some of the pics and just argue with Harlan the entire time :lol:

[pbmax]

I don't pretend to have all the answers, this is the only message board I use and one of only two I read. So my experience in this area is limited to actual meatspace.

Alright, I'll admit I don't know WTF is going on. What is "meatspace?" I have a lot of ideas, and a lot of those are pretty fucking perverse, but I doubt any of them are right.
:lol: Meatspace is the opposite of cyberspace, ie. the actual, tangible world.

Of course, many perverse things can be found there as well. :shock:

[pbmax]

Sorry Scott

That is one committee I could never be a part of; I'd plead with Skin to stop posting some of the pics and just argue with Harlan the entire time :lol:
B, before you give up completely on the idea of rules, if you have time, try this exercise. Read a couple of the Favre threads, or any thread that has gone off the rails, or just gotten vicious or personal.

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate. Try to extrapolate what actual, physical, identifiable features are contained in every post from that point forward. I think the list is pretty short and almost universal.

[Scott Campbell]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.


Yup.

[Deputy Nutz]

Do you think it is the smart or dumb companies that have an employee handbook?


Good point Harlan!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/enron/1533657.html

"A committee representing Enron's creditors and Enron have signed off on a plan to pay former workers $13,500 in severance. The plan needs U.S. Bankrupcty Judge Arthur Gonzalez's approval.

Creditors, however, could back out because 54 former workers, out of 4,200, won't agree to the deal and are seeking the full severance package, as outlined in the company handbook. Former executive John Sheriff, for instance, wants $1.6 million."

Good one SC! In a related story, the NFL has decided to dispense with their rule book. Said retiring rule committee chairman Mike Holmgren: "Nobody paid any fucking attention anyway. Did you see the shit Charles Woodson gets away with? That fucking bastard holds on every goddamn play." When it was suggested to Mr. Holmgren that, without rules, the game might descend into chaos, Holmgren responded: "Fuck you."


Brilliant!!!

[GrnBay007]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P

[Deputy Nutz]

I have suggestion for the admin. Tell Mobb to stop pulling up more Favre threads.

[Guiness]

See, I see you as one that want to restrict the admin.

Yes, yes, yes! But not because the admin is an asshole, but because the admin is a human being.

This is not a new problem. Its been debated and tested for centuries. Lets start with the Magna Carta in 12th century, says the King doesn't rule totally by his whims, there's also the rule of law. Doesn't mean the King isn't the King anymore, or that the King is a tyrant, but things work better if there is some balance and clarity.

The simple statement is 'Absolute power corrupts absolutely'

[Guiness]

Good one SC! In a related story, the NFL has decided to dispense with their rule book.


In my best MOBB voice:


BRING BACK CHARLES MARTIN!!!!! (just for the Vikings game)

We'll need David Duchovney if that happens. He's dead, Jim.

[Joemailman]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P

Imagine getting all this help for free without even asking! :wow:

[pbmax]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P
Ted isn't asking for our help either, but that hasn't stopped us yet. :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

This will be to your surprise, but I'm the guy who was invested 100% in technology stocks during the Internet Boom and Bust

You big dummy.

[GrnBay007]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P
Ted isn't asking for our help either, but that hasn't stopped us yet. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[cpk1994]

I have suggestion for the admin. Tell Mobb to stop pulling up more Favre threads.a 1000 times this.

[KYPack]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P

Hasn't stopped us before!

[Scott Campbell]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P



No, he didn't.

He also didn't ask for anybody to point it out either. Sassy Rat.

:lol:

[ThunderDan]

What I struggle to understand is the constant need to challenge posters personally. Sticking to the argument at hand is far easier.

It's actually pretty easy. A lot of posters don't want to take the time to find supporting facts for their positions. It's much easier to call someone a name than try to deflect the truth that you have absolutely no proof of what you are saying.

[Little Whiskey]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.

kinda like this thread? at what point did it disintegrate and go off topic?

[mraynrand]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.

kinda like this thread? at what point did it disintegrate and go off topic?

after the first post.

[falco]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.

kinda like this thread? at what point did it disintegrate and go off topic?

after the first post.

March 2006?

[Scott Campbell]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.

kinda like this thread? at what point did it disintegrate and go off topic?


The general rule of thumb is this:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/images/avatars/145672441549bb3f3e9aff7.gif

[falco]

this is my rule of thumb:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/judge_thumb.jpg

[MJZiggy]

Maybe I missed something in the 14 pages of welcoming, but has the new owner even asked for suggestions concerning the forum? :P

Yes, somewhere around page 3ish.

[pbmax]

I think, except for the combatants, everyone can find the point at which the thread begins to disintegrate.

kinda like this thread? at what point did it disintegrate and go off topic?
Off topic is one problem. Disintegration is another. Let me demonstrate:

"There you go again, Little Whiskey and all his Disintegration Lovers prattling on and on about nothing and then when someone calls them on it they react like they have no idea what you are talking about.

Its clear you have no idea what makes a good thread, in fact its a miracle you can string 3 words together without falling onto your keyboard. I don't know what kind of idiot posts this tripe day after day, but when you get done collecting your welfare check then using the local library's computers (paid for by upstanding members of your community that agree with ME) to post your trash.

Meanwhile, Little Johnny Schoolchild needs to get his History report in so he can graduate from 4th grade but he CAN'T! Because you are hoarding the library computer time to post Disintegration crap on a Packers message board that you clearly have no regard for at all.

And that would be sad enough and you're ruining it for all the normal people on this board like texaspackerbacker. But no, you don't stop there. Little Johnny is going to fail 4th grade now and due to the failure of the public school system (failing since they had to deal with you and your ilk of non-achievers/disintegrators). That will lead him down a dark path of Cub Fandom and we know only Islamofascists become Cub fans in 5th grade.

So you are now directly responsible for the next terrorist attack on American soil. I hope you're happy."

:lol: See the difference between off-topic and disintegration?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

all the normal people on this board like texaspackerbacker.

Not your strongest argument, pb! :wink:

[Little Whiskey]

pb, I have no idea what you are talking about?

[Iron Mike]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/mike_zankle/lolcat3795221.jpg

[KYPack]

All right, this thread blows.

Way to keep us off balance, PB!

[Harlan Huckleby]

all the normal people on this board like texaspackerbacker.

Not your strongest argument, pb! :wink:


all subtlety is lost on you, Tyrone. Tex always refers to "the good, normal people" when he wants to invoke a chorus of supporters. PB is using a Tex catch phrase.

[sheepshead]

Hells Bells, I'm STILL waiting for the introduction. Who are you man? Why all the secrecy?

[Administrator]

Hells Bells, I'm STILL waiting for the introduction. Who are you man? Why all the secrecy?

Why do you think you get to "set the rules" around here? Will I find your name in the archives?

I offered to let you "show us how it is done". But you haven't taken me up on that. Give it a whirl and introduce yourself. BTW, if you go back and read all your questions will be answered.

[sheepshead]

Hey man. lighten up. I just laughed when you called it an introduction and it wasnt one. Every website has at least one person who runs it and you know by name, gotta photo usually. Your privacy is fine. I just find it odd as compared to other sites. Posters are anonymous except as a sock puppet. You have enough information about me to control my access. I was just surprised is all. I wasnt active here when this thing was put together but many people seemed to know Mad.

[pbmax]

pb, I have no idea what you are talking about?
It was just a joke LW. I was just goofing on the difference between off topic and completely unbalanced. No message specific to you or your post was intended, it was just a launching point for a nonsensical rant. :lol:

[SkinBasket]

Hells Bells, I'm STILL waiting for the introduction. Who are you man? Why all the secrecy?

You trying to hassle a dinner date out him or something?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hey man. lighten up. I just laughed when you called it an introduction and it wasnt one. Every website has at least one person who runs it and you know by name, gotta photo usually. Your privacy is fine. I just find it odd as compared to other sites. Posters are anonymous except as a sock puppet. You have enough information about me to control my access. I was just surprised is all. I wasnt active here when this thing was put together but many people seemed to know Mad.

I'd personally like to know the new guy, but now I'm thinking it might be best if we just gradually get to know him. We knew Mad because he attended two PR games in Green Bay. We know what a crazy Mexican he is. Perhaps, the new owner will attend the PR game this year.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hey man. lighten up. I just laughed when you called it an introduction and it wasnt one. Every website has at least one person who runs it and you know by name, gotta photo usually. Your privacy is fine. I just find it odd as compared to other sites. Posters are anonymous except as a sock puppet. You have enough information about me to control my access. I was just surprised is all. I wasnt active here when this thing was put together but many people seemed to know Mad.

I'd personally like to know the new guy, but now I'm thinking it might be best if we just gradually get to know him. We knew Mad because he attended two PR games in Green Bay. We know what a crazy Mexican he is. Perhaps, the new owner will attend the PR game this year.
+1

We'll get to know more and more about the new owner over time. Why such the sense of entitlement that you are owed all of his info upfront sheepshead and the obvious insinuation that the owner is a coward for not giving it to you?

[sheepshead]

Hey man. lighten up. I just laughed when you called it an introduction and it wasnt one. Every website has at least one person who runs it and you know by name, gotta photo usually. Your privacy is fine. I just find it odd as compared to other sites. Posters are anonymous except as a sock puppet. You have enough information about me to control my access. I was just surprised is all. I wasnt active here when this thing was put together but many people seemed to know Mad.

I'd personally like to know the new guy, but now I'm thinking it might be best if we just gradually get to know him. We knew Mad because he attended two PR games in Green Bay. We know what a crazy Mexican he is. Perhaps, the new owner will attend the PR game this year.
+1

We'll get to know more and more about the new owner over time. Why such the sense of entitlement that you are owed all of his info upfront sheepshead and the obvious insinuation that the owner is a coward for not giving it to you?

Oh come on, i didnt mean that. It was just when I was the headline "introduction" I thought thats what it was going to be. Let it rest. I am just surprised because on any other similar site, sports, politics, etc you know who's running it. No big deal, just thought it was odd.

[retailguy]

Hey man. lighten up. I just laughed when you called it an introduction and it wasnt one. Every website has at least one person who runs it and you know by name, gotta photo usually. Your privacy is fine. I just find it odd as compared to other sites. Posters are anonymous except as a sock puppet. You have enough information about me to control my access. I was just surprised is all. I wasnt active here when this thing was put together but many people seemed to know Mad.

I'd personally like to know the new guy, but now I'm thinking it might be best if we just gradually get to know him. We knew Mad because he attended two PR games in Green Bay. We know what a crazy Mexican he is. Perhaps, the new owner will attend the PR game this year.
+1

We'll get to know more and more about the new owner over time. Why such the sense of entitlement that you are owed all of his info upfront sheepshead and the obvious insinuation that the owner is a coward for not giving it to you?

Oh come on, i didnt mean that. It was just when I was the headline "introduction" I thought thats what it was going to be. Let it rest. I am just surprised because on any other similar site, sports, politics, etc you know who's running it. No big deal, just thought it was odd.

I see that the how "to win friends and influence people" classes are going well... :wink:

[sheepshead]

'xactly!


:P

[Harlan Huckleby]

In the interest of good public relations, and in light of past experience, it would be helpful for the new Administrator to submit to a little get-to-know-you review. I hope no offense is taken, certainly none is intended.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv

[cpk1994]

Quite an enlightening test. :)

[Little Whiskey]

pb, I have no idea what you are talking about?
It was just a joke LW. I was just goofing on the difference between off topic and completely unbalanced. No message specific to you or your post was intended, it was just a launching point for a nonsensical rant. :lol:

Pb, I know. just being an ass. guess i should have used an emoticon. where's the on that skin was talking about ealier?

[sheepshead]

In the interest of good public relations, and in light of past experience, it would be helpful for the new Administrator to submit to a little get-to-know-you review. I hope no offense is taken, certainly none is intended.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv


:lol:

[Tyrone Bigguns]

all the normal people on this board like texaspackerbacker.

Not your strongest argument, pb! :wink:


all subtlety is lost on you, Tyrone. Tex always refers to "the good, normal people" when he wants to invoke a chorus of supporters. PB is using a Tex catch phrase.

Some people have no sense of humor.

Ty is quite aware of the reference...hence my joke.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Quite an enlightening test. :)

I had all yes's and three no's.

[Harlan Huckleby]

all the normal people on this board like texaspackerbacker.

Not your strongest argument, pb! :wink:


all subtlety is lost on you, Tyrone. Tex always refers to "the good, normal people" when he wants to invoke a chorus of supporters. PB is using a Tex catch phrase.

Some people have no sense of humor.

Ty is quite aware of the reference...hence my joke.

Sorry Tyrone, I thought you might be a dumb fuck. My bad.

[cpk1994]

Quite an enlightening test. :)

I had all yes's and three no's.I think I had 6 yes's.

[wist43]

Typical psych test... :lol:

I always come out looking like a cross between Ghandi and Hannibal Lecter :satan:

[RashanGary]

I'm a schitzoid :twisted:

[Scott Campbell]

I'm a schitzoid :twisted:


Ok. But you should take the test just to be sure.

[pbmax]

Typical psych test... :lol:

I always come out looking like a cross between Ghandi and Hannibal Lecter :satan:
Isn't that most of the general population?!

[pbmax]

I'm a schitzoid :twisted:


Ok. But you should take the test just to be sure.
Check with the voices first though, they don't like to be surprised. :shock:

[MJZiggy]

Typical psych test... :lol:

I always come out looking like a cross between Ghandi and Hannibal Lecter :satan:
Isn't that most of the general population?!

No, I came out perfectly sane, thank you...(just don't ask anyone who was at the first gathering :shock: )

[KYPack]

Speaking of psychological profiles...

Hey Admin, do you still want the gig?

Are you beginning to "catch on" to what's happening with this bunch?

[SnakeLH2006]

Speaking of psychological profiles...

Hey Admin, do you still want the gig?

Are you beginning to "catch on" to what's happening with this bunch?

:laugh: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BnOj0l4tXYk/SDZwT_W92ZI/AAAAAAAABNY/795ctDzO5pY/s400/USA+Television+Network+Logo.gif

[falco]

finally! i was starting to get twitchy

[SkinBasket]

Madtown must have forgotten to pay the electric bill before he left.

[Badgerinmaine]

Madtown must have forgotten to pay the electric bill before he left. :idea: :idea: 8-) :lol:

[Merlin]

Welcome to the new owner and Administrator. Here's to many more years of good old family fun... :lol:

[Dabaddestbear]

Where are your manners, people?!?! Welcome to the...errr....your forum!


:oops:


Welcome to your forum!


Nah. It belongs to all of us, somebody just has to run it. I'm the new guy around here! It's great to be here.

Well in all seriousness...best of luck. There are a few nut cases here but not too many trolls. Those can really drag down a forum. Just the odd Bears troll really.
Bear Trolls? !! Say it aint so?

[cpk1994]

Typical psych test... :lol:

I always come out looking like a cross between Ghandi and Hannibal Lecter :satan:That would explain the Wist that was kissing TT's butt on draft day. :lol:

[MJZiggy]

Typical psych test... :lol:

I always come out looking like a cross between Ghandi and Hannibal Lecter :satan:That would explain the Wist that was kissing TT's butt on draft day. :lol:

I don't think either Ghandi or Hannibal would kiss TT's butt...Hannibal might bite, but that's a different issue.