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HarveyWallbangers
05-23-2009, 09:20 PM
It's amazing when you think how young this team is. We only have 7 guys on the team that are older than 28 (Driver, Clifton, Pickett, Kampman, Poppinga, Woodson, Harris). Not 30. 28. And Pickett, Kampman, and Poppinga are 29, so they could have a few good years left. Most know the team is young, but when you actually see the ages, it's pretty amazing. The thing I'm excited about is that most of these guys have been here a year or three, so they are young (most are 25 and younger) but should be hitting their formative years.

These are the guys that have a reasonable chance to make the team:


QB Aaron Rodgers (25), Brian Brohm (23), Matt Flynn (23)

RB Ryan Grant (26), Brandon Jackson (23), DeShawn Wynn (25), Kregg Lumpkin (25)

FB Quinn Johnson (22), Korey Hall (25), John Kuhn (26)

WR Greg Jennings (25), Donald Driver (34), Jordy Nelson (23), James Jones (25), Ruvell Martin (26), Brett Swain (23)

TE Donald Lee (28), Jermichael Finley (22), Tory Humphrey (26), Carson Butler (22), Evan Moore (24)

OL Chad Clifton (32), Daryn Colledge (27), Jason Spitz (26), Josh Sitton (22), Allen Barbre (24), Breno Giacomini (23), Scott Wells (28), T.J. Lang (21), Jamon Meredith (23), Duke Preston (26)

DL Cullen Jenkins (28), Ryan Pickett (29), B.J. Raji (22), Johnny Jolly (26), Justin Harrell (25), Mike Montgomery (25), Jarius Wynn (22)

LB Aaron Kampman (29), Nick Barnet (27), A.J. Hawk (25), Clay Matthews (23), Brandon Chillar (26), Brady Poppinga (29), Desmond Bishop (24), Jeremy Thompson (23), Brad Jones (23), Spencer Havner (26), Danny Lansanah (23)

CB Charles Woodson (32), Al Harris (34), Tramon Williams (26), Will Blackmon (24), Pat Lee (25), Jarret Bush (25), Brandon Underwood (22)

S Nick Collins (25), Atari Bigby (27), Anthony Smith (25), Aaron Rouse (25), Charlie Peprah (26)

K Mason Crosby (24)
P All three of them are 24
LS Brett Goode (24)

pbmax
05-24-2009, 09:43 AM
What I like is that many of the young guys have multiple seasons of starts under their belt. I am hoping this comes together fast on D. But I suppose there is a reason Parcells always brings in veterans when he moves.

Scott Campbell
05-24-2009, 09:47 AM
What I like is that many of the young guys have multiple seasons of starts under their belt. I am hoping this comes together fast on D. But I suppose there is a reason Parcells always brings in veterans when he moves.


Chillar being 26 surprised me. That's kind of young for a guy who hit FA and has a year under his belt in his new home.

Bretsky
05-24-2009, 09:51 AM
I think Chillar is better than most give him credit for; he's just that guy who is solid in every facet of the game.

pbmax
05-24-2009, 12:45 PM
I think Chillar is better than most give him credit for; he's just that guy who is solid in every facet of the game.
Given the descriptions by Bedard, Chillar would seem to be a natural to keep because he can handle the coverage responsibilities of Barnett's new role (Jack linebacker) and he could probably move outside in a pinch, even if that is not his best fit due to a lack of history in pass rush. If he can man special teams, I would be stunned if he isn't all over the depth chart in September.

HarveyWallbangers
05-24-2009, 01:11 PM
Given the descriptions by Bedard, Chillar would seem to be a natural to keep because he can handle the coverage responsibilities of Barnett's new role (Jack linebacker) and he could probably move outside in a pinch, even if that is not his best fit due to a lack of history in pass rush. If he can man special teams, I would be stunned if he isn't all over the depth chart in September.

Good point, and I hadn't really thought about it. Sounds like Barnett's position is going to play the most coverage of any of the LBs. I thought maybe it would be the OLB opposite Kampman. Then, it makes sense to keep Chillar inside as insurance for Barnett. I think Chillar's pretty solid, and I don't have a problem with him starting. He's not a great, but he's somebody that you can win with.

DonHutson
05-24-2009, 02:31 PM
So for the first time in my life, it appears that I will be older than every Green Bay Packer.

That might start to put a dent in my lifetime goal of becoming a Packers WR.

:(

Thanks, Harv. I needed that.

HarveyWallbangers
05-24-2009, 02:46 PM
So for the first time in my life, it appears that I will be older than every Green Bay Packer.

I was with you until last year. Once Brett left, for the first time I was older than every Packers player.

DonHutson
05-24-2009, 07:08 PM
So for the first time in my life, it appears that I will be older than every Green Bay Packer.

I was with you until last year. Once Brett left, for the first time I was older than every Packers player.

Now that I think about it, I must have been last year as well. I forget Rob Davis was gone last year too. So I was already old. Not sure if that makes it better or not.

Patler
05-24-2009, 08:24 PM
Just wait until you realize you are older than every Packer COACH! :lol:

oregonpackfan
05-24-2009, 11:41 PM
You know you are really getting old when you realize you are old enough to be the father of most of the Packer players! :shock: :)

MJZiggy
05-25-2009, 07:07 AM
You know you are really getting old when you realize you are old enough to be the father of most of the Packer players! :shock: :)

I'll never be that old...:mrgreen:

Fritz
05-25-2009, 07:12 AM
I think Patler may have pointed this out before, but look how young Brandon Jackson is. Guy's entering his third year and he's only 23.

I wonder if he'll have a big improvement given his youth.

And Poppinga, for a guy with, what, four seasons under his belt, is relatively old.

Donald Driver must feel like Methuselah.

oregonpackfan
05-25-2009, 10:57 AM
I think Patler may have pointed this out before, but look how young Brandon Jackson is. Guy's entering his third year and he's only 23.



I thought Jackson really improved his second year. He was much more decisive in hitting the holes and seemed to have a greater feel for the game at the pro level.

rbaloha1
05-25-2009, 11:23 AM
I think Patler may have pointed this out before, but look how young Brandon Jackson is. Guy's entering his third year and he's only 23.



I thought Jackson really improved his second year. He was much more decisive in hitting the holes and seemed to have a greater feel for the game at the pro level.

Agreed. Never goes down after initial contact. Nice changeup to the long striding Grant.

IMO Chillar and Poppinga are ilb. Both are physical enough to take on the guards and play the B gap.

TT's built a youthful roster which should restart a Wolf/Holgrem type era.

Fritz
05-26-2009, 04:37 PM
I feel like Walter Brennan these days . . . dagnabbit.

Scott Campbell
05-26-2009, 04:39 PM
You know you are really getting old when you realize you are old enough to be the father of most of the Packer players! :shock: :)


53 is a lot of kids - even in Utah.

Chevelle2
05-26-2009, 04:56 PM
You know you are really getting old when you realize you are old enough to be the father of most of the Packer players! :shock: :)


53 is a lot of kids - even in the NBA

Fixed.

Bossman641
05-26-2009, 08:27 PM
You know you are really getting old when you realize you are old enough to be the father of most of the Packer players! :shock: :)


53 is a lot of kids - even in Denver

Fixed.

Double fixed

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SnakeLH2006
05-27-2009, 02:41 AM
Youth = Wins. Thank god our team is young. Old age = losses more often than not.

Farley Face
05-30-2009, 11:30 PM
It's amazing when you think how young this team is. We only have 7 guys on the team that are older than 28 (Driver, Clifton, Pickett, Kampman, Poppinga, Woodson, Harris). Not 30. 28. And Pickett, Kampman, and Poppinga are 29, so they could have a few good years left. Most know the team is young, but when you actually see the ages, it's pretty amazing. The thing I'm excited about is that most of these guys have been here a year or three, so they are young (most are 25 and younger) but should be hitting their formative years.

These are the guys that have a reasonable chance to make the team:


QB Aaron Rodgers (25), Brian Brohm (23), Matt Flynn (23)

RB Ryan Grant (26), Brandon Jackson (23), DeShawn Wynn (25), Kregg Lumpkin (25)

FB Quinn Johnson (22), Korey Hall (25), John Kuhn (26)

WR Greg Jennings (25), Donald Driver (34), Jordy Nelson (23), James Jones (25), Ruvell Martin (26), Brett Swain (23)

TE Donald Lee (28), Jermichael Finley (22), Tory Humphrey (26), Carson Butler (22), Evan Moore (24)

OL Chad Clifton (32), Daryn Colledge (27), Jason Spitz (26), Josh Sitton (22), Allen Barbre (24), Breno Giacomini (23), Scott Wells (28), T.J. Lang (21), Jamon Meredith (23), Duke Preston (26)

DL Cullen Jenkins (28), Ryan Pickett (29), B.J. Raji (22), Johnny Jolly (26), Justin Harrell (25), Mike Montgomery (25), Jarius Wynn (22)

LB Aaron Kampman (29), Nick Barnet (27), A.J. Hawk (25), Clay Matthews (23), Brandon Chillar (26), Brady Poppinga (29), Desmond Bishop (24), Jeremy Thompson (23), Brad Jones (23), Spencer Havner (26), Danny Lansanah (23)

CB Charles Woodson (32), Al Harris (34), Tramon Williams (26), Will Blackmon (24), Pat Lee (25), Jarret Bush (25), Brandon Underwood (22)

S Nick Collins (25), Atari Bigby (27), Anthony Smith (25), Aaron Rouse (25), Charlie Peprah (26)

K Mason Crosby (24)
P All three of them are 24
LS Brett Goode (24)

Did Pat Lee go to Auburn for 8 years or something?? Crazy to me he is the same age as Rodgers.

SnakeLH2006
05-31-2009, 12:46 AM
It's amazing when you think how young this team is. We only have 7 guys on the team that are older than 28 (Driver, Clifton, Pickett, Kampman, Poppinga, Woodson, Harris). Not 30. 28. And Pickett, Kampman, and Poppinga are 29, so they could have a few good years left. Most know the team is young, but when you actually see the ages, it's pretty amazing. The thing I'm excited about is that most of these guys have been here a year or three, so they are young (most are 25 and younger) but should be hitting their formative years.

These are the guys that have a reasonable chance to make the team:


QB Aaron Rodgers (25), Brian Brohm (23), Matt Flynn (23)

RB Ryan Grant (26), Brandon Jackson (23), DeShawn Wynn (25), Kregg Lumpkin (25)

FB Quinn Johnson (22), Korey Hall (25), John Kuhn (26)

WR Greg Jennings (25), Donald Driver (34), Jordy Nelson (23), James Jones (25), Ruvell Martin (26), Brett Swain (23)

TE Donald Lee (28), Jermichael Finley (22), Tory Humphrey (26), Carson Butler (22), Evan Moore (24)

OL Chad Clifton (32), Daryn Colledge (27), Jason Spitz (26), Josh Sitton (22), Allen Barbre (24), Breno Giacomini (23), Scott Wells (28), T.J. Lang (21), Jamon Meredith (23), Duke Preston (26)

DL Cullen Jenkins (28), Ryan Pickett (29), B.J. Raji (22), Johnny Jolly (26), Justin Harrell (25), Mike Montgomery (25), Jarius Wynn (22)

LB Aaron Kampman (29), Nick Barnet (27), A.J. Hawk (25), Clay Matthews (23), Brandon Chillar (26), Brady Poppinga (29), Desmond Bishop (24), Jeremy Thompson (23), Brad Jones (23), Spencer Havner (26), Danny Lansanah (23)

CB Charles Woodson (32), Al Harris (34), Tramon Williams (26), Will Blackmon (24), Pat Lee (25), Jarret Bush (25), Brandon Underwood (22)

S Nick Collins (25), Atari Bigby (27), Anthony Smith (25), Aaron Rouse (25), Charlie Peprah (26)

K Mason Crosby (24)
P All three of them are 24
LS Brett Goode (24)

Did Pat Lee go to Auburn for 8 years or something?? Crazy to me he is the same age as Rodgers.

True that, but what's even crazier is that Jarrett Bush has been getting toasted in coverage for what seems like a long time now, and Pat Lee has only had on season to learn how not to get posterized on Youtube like Bush, while at the same age of 25. :shock: