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RashanGary
06-18-2009, 08:40 PM
QB’s
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn
Brian Brohm

RB’s
Ryan Grant
Brandon Jackson

FB’s
Quinn Johnson

WR’s
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
Jordy Nelson
James Jones

TE’s
Donald Lee
Jermichael Finley


OL
Darryn Colledge
Jason Spitz
Josh Sitton
Allen Barbre
Breno Gicomini
TJ Lang

DL
Cullen Jenkins
Johnny Jolly
Ryan Pickett
BJ Raji

LB
Aaron Kampman
AJ Hawk
Brandon Chillar
Clay Matthews
Jeremy Thompson

S
Nick Collins
Atari Bigby
Anthony Smith

CB
Charles Woodson
Tramon Williams
Al Harris

ST’s
Mason Crosby

RashanGary
06-18-2009, 08:45 PM
19 spots are somewhat open by my estimation. Probably the last 5 or 10 are highly competitive.

Joemailman
06-18-2009, 08:47 PM
I would add Clifton. They would have someone other than Moll as his top backup if they were planning on releasing him.

No reason to think Justin Harrell won't be on the team.

Nick Barnett will make the roster.

RashanGary
06-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Yeah. Barnett too. I left a few off because I think there is a chance with injury/age that maybe we'd go a different direction.

RashanGary
06-18-2009, 08:56 PM
Patrick Lee and Blackmon are two that haven't shown anything on defense but are young and athletic that you think will probably make it.

Ruvell has a solid shot.

Harrell too

I kept the list to guys that I was pretty darn sure of, guys where almost no doubt crossed my mind (except extreme injury or other completely unexpected circumstance). All these guys had a seed of doubt to me. Barnett injury. Clifton health/age. Blackmon defensive ablity, harrell healthy, and on and on. . ..

HarveyWallbangers
06-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Barring injuries, Clifton, Barnett, and Blackmon will make it. Lee is a good bet. Teams don't give up on 2nd round picks after one year.

Harrell and Ruvell aren't locks, but should make the team.

Barbre should make the team but he isn't a lock yet. If he bombed during the preseason and Lang and Giacomini showed better, I could see them going another direction. Poppinga and Bishop are probably solid bets to make the team.

Battles

3rd RB
2nd FB
3rd TE
8th and possibly 9th OL
6th DL
#8-10 LB
#4 S
#10 DB
Punter

I see about 12 open roster spots.

Pack-man
06-19-2009, 11:44 AM
Ruvel is no where near a lock. I wouldn't count out Jamarko Simmons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5DcT8bEWuY

MadScientist
06-19-2009, 01:30 PM
Harrell and Ruvell aren't locks, but should make the team.

Barbre should make the team but he isn't a lock yet.
At this point it would take a collapse of Barbre for him to not make it. He's the number 1 RT and they want to solidify the line as early in camp as possible.

Since just about every report has been commenting on Swain's performance, I think Ruvell is going to find himself in a significant battle.

Patler
06-19-2009, 01:44 PM
At this point it would take a collapse of Barbre for him to not make it. He's the number 1 RT and they want to solidify the line as early in camp as possible.

Since just about every report has been commenting on Swain's performance, I think Ruvell is going to find himself in a significant battle.

Being no.1 on the depth chart in May/June is kind of meaningless when your competition for the position is a second year player on rehab and a rookie or two. Barbre is almost there by default, although it sounds like he is doing well for now. I guess we will know for sure when Giacomini and Wells are cleared to practice and Meredith and Lang get up to speed.

I'm not sure Barbre has to collapse to not make the team. With so many young players whose performances could influence decisions at the RT position, (Sitton, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini) Barbre could be in a spot that he has to be the starter or won't make the team. They may be ready to move on to someone else for development. Wells could be in a similar situation, be the starter or be gone. There is a real domino effect for Wells, beyond just his own performance.

Scott Campbell
06-19-2009, 01:57 PM
Ruvel is no where near a lock. I wouldn't count out Jamarko Simmons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5DcT8bEWuY



Very intriguing prospect.

HarveyWallbangers
06-19-2009, 03:32 PM
At this point it would take a collapse of Barbre for him to not make it. He's the number 1 RT and they want to solidify the line as early in camp as possible.

Since just about every report has been commenting on Swain's performance, I think Ruvell is going to find himself in a significant battle.

Being no.1 on the depth chart in May/June is kind of meaningless when your competition for the position is a second year player on rehab and a rookie or two. Barbre is almost there by default, although it sounds like he is doing well for now. I guess we will know for sure when Giacomini and Wells are cleared to practice and Meredith and Lang get up to speed.

I'm not sure Barbre has to collapse to not make the team. With so many young players whose performances could influence decisions at the RT position, (Sitton, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini) Barbre could be in a spot that he has to be the starter or won't make the team. They may be ready to move on to someone else for development. Wells could be in a similar situation, be the starter or be gone. There is a real domino effect for Wells, beyond just his own performance.

Also, he was battling for the starting LG spot at this point last year. Colledge beat him out and he barely saw the field. Same thing could happen this year. I hope not because I think he has intriguing talent, but I wouldn't call him a lock just yet.

Patler
06-19-2009, 03:55 PM
At this point it would take a collapse of Barbre for him to not make it. He's the number 1 RT and they want to solidify the line as early in camp as possible.

Since just about every report has been commenting on Swain's performance, I think Ruvell is going to find himself in a significant battle.

Being no.1 on the depth chart in May/June is kind of meaningless when your competition for the position is a second year player on rehab and a rookie or two. Barbre is almost there by default, although it sounds like he is doing well for now. I guess we will know for sure when Giacomini and Wells are cleared to practice and Meredith and Lang get up to speed.

I'm not sure Barbre has to collapse to not make the team. With so many young players whose performances could influence decisions at the RT position, (Sitton, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini) Barbre could be in a spot that he has to be the starter or won't make the team. They may be ready to move on to someone else for development. Wells could be in a similar situation, be the starter or be gone. There is a real domino effect for Wells, beyond just his own performance.

Also, he was battling for the starting LG spot at this point last year. Colledge beat him out and he barely saw the field. Same thing could happen this year. I hope not because I think he has intriguing talent, but I wouldn't call him a lock just yet.

Ya, you gotta love an O-lineman who was the gunner on his punt team in college!

I have a good feeling about what the O-line might be this year and in the future. Last year at this time I didn't hold out much hope for Colledge to be the starter at LG, but he really did seem to get untracked last year. Spitz, Sitton, Lang, Barbre, Giacomini, Meredith; from that group hopefully there are four other quality starters for the future.

I expect Tony Moll to be gone before the season gets here; BUT, I also will not be completely surprised if he finds a role for himself, too. He has really had an uphill battle, coming into the NFL with only one season as a lineman, getting bounced around from one position to another when he really didn't know any O-line position very well, then losing most of his 2nd season to injuries. I give him credit for hanging in there when guys with better resumes as O-linemen have come and gone (Coston, Whitticker and a raft full of FAs). I find myself pulling for him to do well.

pbmax
06-19-2009, 04:04 PM
The really odd situation at RT would be if there is no clear cut leader, no one who stands out as ready. It would be easy to see Breno or Lang in that situation, but this is Barbre's first work at right tackle in two years.

There is no established veteran to beat out, so what is the Mendoza line at RT? A level of play below which they either say a prayer for 6 games and bring Tauscher back on PUP or sign a stopgap. Maybe Derrick Frost can play RT better than punt. :lol:

RashanGary
06-19-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm not worried about RT. Breno and Barbre are two decent enough prospects. This isn't 2005 or 2006 when two rookies were starting on the OL. I think it will be OK.

DonHutson
06-21-2009, 05:21 PM
Nobody on the roster can touch Blackmon as a PR. As long as he contributes at a high level there, I don't think it matters if he's not much of a CB. This assumes he stays healthy, which is always a crap shoot for him.

cpk1994
06-21-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm not worried about RT. Breno and Barbre are two decent enough prospects. This isn't 2005 or 2006 when two rookies were starting on the OL. I think it will be OK.However, thinking we'll be OK doens't make me feel any better about the situation.

woodbuck27
06-22-2009, 01:11 AM
So Poppinga and Will Blackmon (after all his health issues and finally demonstrating his abilities ) are gone?

Nope.

MJZiggy
06-22-2009, 06:14 AM
Blackmon will stick around if for no other reason than his ST abilities. Always have to remember that third aspect. That said, I think he may stick around at corner as well.

Fritz
06-22-2009, 07:30 AM
Blackmon will stick around if for no other reason than his ST abilities. Always have to remember that third aspect. That said, I think he may stick around at corner as well.

I have only two words for anyone thinking the Pack should cut Blackmon because he is "only" a special teamer:

Allan Rossum

RashanGary
06-22-2009, 07:54 AM
After reading through all of the disagreement, I still like my list. I think all of my guys will be here. I think there will be a surprise or two this year with one or two of the players I left off that people think are safe.

Lurker64
06-22-2009, 10:27 AM
Blackmon will stick around if for no other reason than his ST abilities. Always have to remember that third aspect.

Yup. Most of the time, for players that aren't starters, specialists, or primary backups the way that they make the roster in the first place is either "long term potential" or "special teams abilities." You can get cut if you milk the "long term potential" card for too long without showing it, but teams will rarely cut a good special teamer simply because he's not all-world as a third stringer.