Buying a new car to get our tax money back

[SkinBasket]

So my wife's car lease is up. Time to buy. I know someone who wants to buy a new car and I had to go to the dump anyway, so I go to Ernie von Schledorn. They have a few models the woman wants to drive. I don't test drive so I don't care. I see a Tiguon and it's smaller than I thought. The point is Obama wants to destroy our family truck because it don't get good gas mileage. It's old, farm abused, half scrapped already. Obama says, "I'll give you $4500 for it." I say, "I'll take it. It'll help cover losing our child deduction this year and if you want to tax our health care benefits, I'll rape your mom for a fifty cent piece from the Fed." Our goal is to find a vehicle that gets 5 more MPG than old red truck and a combined 18 MPG or better for an SUV or 22 for a car. Not too hard.

So I walk into EVS and see Demolition Man in a yellow button up shirt and brown tie closing in before the door's closed. "One question," I say and he hesitates. The water smells less like blood to him. "You taking clunkers for cash cars yet or waiting for the late July final issuance?" I say clunkers for cash even though it sounds stupid because I know if I reference the C.A.R.S. program, it'll only confuse him. He says they're waiting, hands me his card, says I can give him a couple hundred and he can hold one of the ten cars they have til then. I ask if he works Saturdays, and he says, "Yes, I'm a slave." He then looks around the showroom a little uneasily to see if any other white people heard him, or black people.

I'm a renegade
A runaway slave
I've been dreaming about my freedom
On the underground train

While these lyrics run through my mind and I stare at him blankly, juxtaposing this 50 something year old black man with 80s hair, he turns back to me and asks which car I'm looking at. I tell him that Tiguon, maybe a couple of the GM products we can get employee pricing on. He stops me and says I can't get those. I need to get one of his 10 hybrids. I'm startled. This guy's a proud enough black man to reference himself as a slave. He must love Obama. He works selling cars. Could he really not know how this Obama C.A.R.S. program works? "No," I tell him. "Actually pretty much every VW on your lot qualifies, as do those three GM SUVS. I explain to him about the MPG requirements and he starts looking uneasy. "I have to check that," he says dubiously. "That would be a good idea," I say as I leave.

Next is the Lincoln lot. The FWD MKX qualifies. I hope they know how to sell cars there. Or maybe I don't. I just got a call from Alabama. A gentleman looking for "Dookie's" number. I considered giving him the phone number for the salesman I spoke to yesterday, but I didn't. Instead I just told him he got the wrong number and he apologized, which is more than you get from most these days.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

[mraynrand]

I test drove a pontiac G8 - the one with the tuned down corvette engine. Lot of power, decent handling for a GM, and more room than expected. Will Obama let you buy that?

[Deputy Nutz]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

[mraynrand]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Do you have a dorsal fin?

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/a/images/ace-ventura-pet-detective-8.jpg

[HowardRoark]

Are these clunkers being destroyed or are they going to destroy the ozone layer from a third world country?

[mraynrand]

Are these clunkers being destroyed or are they going to destroy the ozone layer from a third world country?

both

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0907/trucksImage3.jpg

[Tyrone Bigguns]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

[SkinBasket]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

I was busy driving a chubby saleswoman around in a hybrid today. I feel dirty on several different levels. Making assumptions about people based on a couple of aspects drawn from their personal life is not a winning game. We have ample evidence of that.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

I was busy driving a chubby saleswoman around in a hybrid today. I feel dirty on several different levels. Making assumptions about people based on a couple of aspects drawn from their personal life is not a winning game. We have ample evidence of that.

And yet, no refutation of affliction tee. :lol:

[SkinBasket]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

I was busy driving a chubby saleswoman around in a hybrid today. I feel dirty on several different levels. Making assumptions about people based on a couple of aspects drawn from their personal life is not a winning game. We have ample evidence of that.

And yet, no refutation of affliction tee. :lol:

Nutz can attest that my tee shirt collection is extremely out of date and plain - something I never outgrew from high school. No graphic tees. Not that there's anything wrong with them if you're into that kind of thing.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

I was busy driving a chubby saleswoman around in a hybrid today. I feel dirty on several different levels. Making assumptions about people based on a couple of aspects drawn from their personal life is not a winning game. We have ample evidence of that.

And yet, no refutation of affliction tee. :lol:

Nutz can attest that my tee shirt collection is extremely out of date and plain - something I never outgrew from high school. No graphic tees. Not that there's anything wrong with them if you're into that kind of thing.

And the tribal armband tattoo....or whatever you call the "unique" tattoo that every mma douche sports at my gym!!

[Deputy Nutz]

hed P.E., MMA...the picture is becoming clearer and clearer.

Were you wearing an affliction tee?

Sure hope your tribal arm band is holding up.

I am having a hard time following this post, it just seems like a personal dig towards skin. Why? Do you know him?

Are you skin's mommy? Is Skin now unable to post for himself?

I was busy driving a chubby saleswoman around in a hybrid today. I feel dirty on several different levels. Making assumptions about people based on a couple of aspects drawn from their personal life is not a winning game. We have ample evidence of that.

And yet, no refutation of affliction tee. :lol:

Nutz can attest that my tee shirt collection is extremely out of date and plain - something I never outgrew from high school. No graphic tees. Not that there's anything wrong with them if you're into that kind of thing.

And the tribal armband tattoo....or whatever you call the "unique" tattoo that every mma douche sports at my gym!!

Actually Skin has his wife's name tatooed on his ass.

[SkinBasket]

It's true. Well, pretty much anyway.

[SkinBasket]

Maybe this is more up Ty's "alley."

http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/objects/2007/My-Apple-Tattoo-6_2005.jpg

[Zool]

Your ass looks like a leg.

[Freak Out]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

[retailguy]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

I must admit, I didn't read the article, but isn't this the same vehicle?

http://www.nissanusa.com/murano/

[Freak Out]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

I must admit, I didn't read the article, but isn't this the same vehicle?

http://www.nissanusa.com/murano/

The diesel option is not available in the US.....I should have noted that was the distinction I was looking at.

[Little Whiskey]

Maybe this is more up Ty's "alley."

http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/objects/2007/My-Apple-Tattoo-6_2005.jpg

his wife's name is apple?

Buy a detroit car.

[retailguy]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

I must admit, I didn't read the article, but isn't this the same vehicle?

http://www.nissanusa.com/murano/

The diesel option is not available in the US.....I should have noted that was the distinction I was looking at.

Oh. That makes sense. Diesel will never "catch on" here like it has in Europe. We don't have the refining facilities to switch away from a primarily gas economy. Also, having Europe use diesel (primarily) and the US use gas (primarily) helps us to "balance" supply more effectively, and keep prices down actually (by maximizing product values and demand for them).

You have to produce a certain amount of gas and diesel from a barrel of oil. You can't produce all diesel (distillate), and you can't produce all gas, (though you have some discretion on minimizing one or the other depending on the composition of your refinery). We can (and do) send both products back and forth...

I realize that's more than what you were looking for, but, that's the way it is, at least today.... Look at the Mercedes diesel options. I think they still make them. Haven't checked in a few years though.

[Freak Out]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

I must admit, I didn't read the article, but isn't this the same vehicle?

http://www.nissanusa.com/murano/

The diesel option is not available in the US.....I should have noted that was the distinction I was looking at.

Oh. That makes sense. Diesel will never "catch on" here like it has in Europe. We don't have the refining facilities to switch away from a primarily gas economy. Also, having Europe use diesel (primarily) and the US use gas (primarily) helps us to "balance" supply more effectively, and keep prices down actually (by maximizing product values and demand for them).

You have to produce a certain amount of gas and diesel from a barrel of oil. You can't produce all diesel (distillate), and you can't produce all gas, (though you have some discretion on minimizing one or the other depending on the composition of your refinery). We can (and do) send both products back and forth...

I realize that's more than what you were looking for, but, that's the way it is, at least today.... Look at the Mercedes diesel options. I think they still make them. Haven't checked in a few years though.

Benz has always made great diesels....I had a 300D for a few years and loved it. I have a VW diesel now and love the MPG....I have heard some very good things about the Nissan diesels and would love for them to bring them to the US.....just like I wish Toyota would bring their diesels to the US. The age of the soot belching diesels is gone and the new diesels offer amazing MPG.

[Freak Out]

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/01/diesels-grab-81-of-volkswagen-jetta-sportwagen-sales-in-june/

[Freak Out]

I keep hearing that Mahindra is going to be bringing their diesel pickups into the US in 2010....I drove on in South America once and thought it was pretty nice.

[retailguy]

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/01/diesels-grab-81-of-volkswagen-jetta-sportwagen-sales-in-june/

One of the guys that I work for has a Jetta diesel. He likes it a lot, but is always on a "quest" for a service station on his route that carries diesel. It is tough to find sometimes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Maybe this is more up Ty's "alley."

http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/objects/2007/My-Apple-Tattoo-6_2005.jpg

My god, that woman is hairy!!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Why the fuck doesn't Nissan sell this vehicle in the US (minus the right hand drive of course)?

http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/07/08/Nissan-Qashqai--2-n-tec-1-5dCi/p1

I must admit, I didn't read the article, but isn't this the same vehicle?

http://www.nissanusa.com/murano/

The diesel option is not available in the US.....I should have noted that was the distinction I was looking at.

Oh. That makes sense. Diesel will never "catch on" here like it has in Europe. We don't have the refining facilities to switch away from a primarily gas economy. Also, having Europe use diesel (primarily) and the US use gas (primarily) helps us to "balance" supply more effectively, and keep prices down actually (by maximizing product values and demand for them).

You have to produce a certain amount of gas and diesel from a barrel of oil. You can't produce all diesel (distillate), and you can't produce all gas, (though you have some discretion on minimizing one or the other depending on the composition of your refinery). We can (and do) send both products back and forth...

I realize that's more than what you were looking for, but, that's the way it is, at least today.... Look at the Mercedes diesel options. I think they still make them. Haven't checked in a few years though.

Benz has always made great diesels....I had a 300D for a few years and loved it. I have a VW diesel now and love the MPG....I have heard some very good things about the Nissan diesels and would love for them to bring them to the US.....just like I wish Toyota would bring their diesels to the US. The age of the soot belching diesels is gone and the new diesels offer amazing MPG.

Ty can't figure out why no diesel Passat. Jetta is a bit too small. Ty had a reg jetta and liked it..wanted to move up in size.

Ty's mom had a diesel caddy back in the 80s...Seville!! Good times keeping it plugged in.

http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218144_pr.jpg

[Freak Out]

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/01/diesels-grab-81-of-volkswagen-jetta-sportwagen-sales-in-june/

One of the guys that I work for has a Jetta diesel. He likes it a lot, but is always on a "quest" for a service station on his route that carries diesel. It is tough to find sometimes.

That's not an issue up here...because of the number of diesel trucks it's everywhere.

[SkinBasket]

Obama needs to be slapped in the face with a dirty sock full of used condoms.