NOT NECCESSARILY NEWS...

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Lord Favre says that he will let vikes know by July 30th if he plans to return...

Thoughts?!

[Freak Out]

Lord Favre says that he will let vikes know by July 30th if he plans to return...

Thoughts?!

Isn't that after training camp starts?

[Scott Campbell]

Thoughts?!


Would you like them in this thread, or one of the 357 others?

[Merlin]

BREAKING NEWS - FAVRE ISN'T A PACKER ANYMORE

Geez, should change the name of this site to favrerats.com

[CaptainKickass]

BREAKING NEWS - FAVRE ISN'T A PACKER ANYMORE

Geez, should change the name of this site to favrerats.com

Slow offseason yo.

Besides, in case the gigantic quantity of "reality" TV shows and the neverending supply of "shock Jocks" on any type of broadcast radio. as well as the continued perseverance of Daytime Soaps weren't enough of a clue:

Drama = Entertainment

Favre = Drama

Therefore Favre = Entertainment - both positive and negative. But mostly negative at this time, in my humble opinion.


.

[DonHutson]

Another non-decision.

Isn't this more of a BREAKING SAME OLD SHIT?

[MOBB DEEP]

Lord Favre says that he will let vikes know by July 30th if he plans to return...

Thoughts?!

Isn't that after training camp starts?

thats the start of TC

[bobblehead]

I believe if you read back in my few posts on the subject I said BF is absolutely playing for the Vikes, but has orchestrated this offseason in a manner that will keep him from announcing it until the start of training camp....this "news" seems right on track.

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now thomas george on nfl.com is reporting that, according to vikes and those close to favre, favre will give vikings answer by this fri!

gonna be paid more than 10 million....wow, its DEF worth the risk for favre

[Fritz]

Since there's nothing the Vikings are doing until training camp, no reason for Favre to wait any more.

I still think it'd be cool if he could orchestrate it so he could miss the first week or two of training camp. Sorry, Ras, but that'd be cool.

[MOBB DEEP]

two days and counting!

whew.....waiting with bated breath to see if the ol gunslinger will return for yet another year to ENTERTAIN the world with his unmatched style of play

playmaker m. irvin made a great point on NFLN; teams and org dont win championships, "families win championships..."

playmaker maintains that brett needs to come into camp with a good heart/spirit, willing to bond with his teammates b/c it will take more than his good head and arm to take them to the promised land

makes sense; the packer's 96 team appeared to be the epitome of a close, family-like bunch

prime time sanders stated that AP is the best playmaker in the nfl and with lord favre in the backfield with him he should be able to go for 2000

john clayton along with several others, picks the packers to win division

div with best QBs in the nfl? possibly

i rank them aaron, jay, brett, and the rook

narrowly, aaron actually has more seasoned weapons imho

jay has none

and the lions are still the lions


its gona be an awesome season!

LETS GOOOOOOOO.......!!!

[Bossman641]

In my mind there's not even a question of whether he will return. I will be happy to be wrong, but I don't see it happening. My only hope now is that it turns into as big a circus as possible, hopefully by Favre refusing to show up for the first week or 2 of training camp over worries that his arm isn't healthy enough. It would be interesting to see where the Vikings go from there.

[MadScientist]

Perhaps Brett can help out by coming in and handing Chilly a schedule of which TC practices he will do and which ones he will take off. That should help with the team chemistry, right?

[denverYooper]

prime time sanders stated that AP is the best playmaker in the nfl and with lord favre in the backfield with him he should be able to go for 2000


People keep bringing up AP as one of the reasons that Favre might succeed. He's a great *running* back, for certain, and I'm sure it takes *some* pressure off of Favre. But I think his only tool is really a hammer. I actually think that Chester Taylor might be a better friend to Favre because his hands are better and he can block.

I also don't know that the backfield in MN is much better than the one Favre was in with the NYJ. Leon Washington, while he might not be as electrifying as AP, has better receiving skills out of the backfield and seems to me to be a much better blocker. Thomas Jones, also, was no stick in the mud.

I see the defense as the main reason that Favre would be coming into a successful situation. I have been somewhat jealous of Minny's D Line for the last few years.

[Freak Out]

As the season gets closer I'm seeing more of this kind of stuff out there...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/21/AR2009072102348_2.html?hpid=artslot&sid=ST2009072103450

Don't Say Goodbye Before It's Time to Leave

By Sally Jenkins
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:17 AM

Somebody once described retirement as "statutory senility." The boredom and mental drift that come with giving up work must be especially severe for athletes, whom we label "past it" by their early 40s, when most professionals are in their prime. After watching Tom Watson almost limp to a British Open title on a fake hip at 59, and Lance Armstrong rip across a road like he was tasered at 37, the evidence suggests athletes give up on themselves too early. Instead of listening to us, they ought take a lesson from Bette Davis: "I will not retire while I've still got my legs, and my makeup box," she said.

To some people, gray-stubbled Brett Favre looks ridiculous chasing a job with the Minnesota Vikings at 39. He's the sports version of an actress hanging around with too much powder and lipstick on her face. But if we learn nothing else from the events of this summer, it should be that we cheat ourselves out of meaningful performances when we sentence athletes to old age prematurely. One of these days, a golfer older than 50 will win a major championship, but it won't be because his audience encouraged him to keep playing.

When an athlete renounces his retirement, most of us groan. We complain they don't know when to get off the stage, and that they will tarnish our memories by gimping around as less than what they were. Somehow, we got the idea that their bodies and their legacies are our personal property. We want them to remain ideals, and don't want the sadness of watching them grow old. But that's our problem, not theirs.

Athletes such as Favre have it right. Studies show that retirement is no good for you. Even if you hate the job you go to every day, sudden abrupt inactivity is a bad idea. A working paper by the National Bureau of Economic Research entitled "The Effects of Retirement on Physical and Mental Health Outcomes" studied people in complete retirement over six years. It found that retirement led to a 5 to 6 percent increase in illness, a 6 to 9 percent decline in mental health, and a 5 to 16 percent increase in mobility difficulties.

The study also suggested that when retirement is involuntary, the symptoms -- which can range from expanding waistlines to depression to tobacco and alcohol use -- tend to be even worse. Forced retirement is exactly what athletes face: They are cut, released, or injured, and then there is the more subtle pressure of being continually told that they should go out on top, because it's a sign of neediness or weakness to hang around.

As Bill Bradley once said, "An athlete has two deaths." The loss of purpose, and of a reassuring regimen, can leave athletes feeling aimless to the point of desperation. "You wake up one day on the other side of the moon," Kareem Abdul-Jabbar once told me, after retiring from the NBA at 42. Jabbar initially struggled so badly with retirement that he actually sold his house. He woke up one day and decided it was too depressingly dark for him.

The conventional wisdom is that athletes who go out on top are being true to their greatness. In fact, they are being untrue to themselves. Great champions are in the business of exhausting themselves. They aren't content as long as they feel there is something left, and to waste any fraction of their capacities feels, to them, like a sin against nature. Their every instinct tells them to use themselves up. As spectators, we have no right to contradict them. "The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender," Vince Lombardi once said.

Nor does it matter that winning might be beyond them. A Tour de France victory is probably not in the cards for my friend and co-author Lance Armstrong. On Monday, he had to come to terms with the fact that he hadn't been able to stay with the 26-year-old Alberto Contador on a steep ride to Verbier, and fell 1 minute 37 seconds behind. "Contador was strong. Very strong," he said.

Up to that point Armstrong had hope, but he simply lacked the acceleration of the younger man, despite his arduous spring training. It was now obvious that he would be racing just to hang on to second or third place, though he showed a flash of his brilliance Tuesday, closing a 35-second gap during a brutal climb.

"Any regrets?" I asked.

"Only a couple of regrets," he replied. "Breaking my collarbone. This sucked. Nearly bailed there. Glad I didn't though. And missing my kids. But at least they are old enough now to understand what I do. I guess I don't regret it because I'm doing it again next year.

"I feel good and I'm having fun," he added. "I'm healthy so I can do whatever I want. As long as my family blesses it, then I don't need anything else."

Nolan Ryan got it right when he played baseball until he was 46, and so did Satchel Paige, playing until he was 59. George Foreman got it right when he won the IBF and WBA titles by flooring Michael Moorer at the age of 45, and Dara Torres got it right when she won two silvers in Beijing at 40.

Martina Navratilova is still getting it right, playing competitive tennis past the age of 50. Saw her just the other day; she's got a better physique than most American teenagers. She made the Wimbledon final at 38, and won a Wimbledon doubles title at 49. Although she finally retired from the professional tennis tour in 2006, she is spending this summer playing World Team Tennis.

None of which she would have done had she listened to the drumbeat of advice telling her to give it up over the last three decades.

"I sure felt that push from the press," she says. "When I lost a match in my 20s, it was because I had a bad day or someone just played really well. When I lost a match in my 30s, it was invariably because I was too old. I mean, I won two more Wimbledon singles titles after they tried to retire me. For that matter there were a few articles when I was 25 saying I should probably call it quits, that my best days were behind me. It is peculiar."

Consider a great brain surgeon, or an architect, Navratilova says. If a young gun comes along who's better, no one would suggest they quit.

The next time an athlete has a question about whether to stay in the game, the next time Favre debates his arm strength, or Armstrong questions his legs, they should remember the words of another Armstrong, who stayed in his own profession until the day he died.

"Musicians don't retire," Louis Armstrong said. "They stop when there's no more music in them."

[MOBB DEEP]

prime time sanders stated that AP is the best playmaker in the nfl and with lord favre in the backfield with him he should be able to go for 2000


People keep bringing up AP as one of the reasons that Favre might succeed. He's a great *running* back, for certain, and I'm sure it takes *some* pressure off of Favre. But I think his only tool is really a hammer. I actually think that Chester Taylor might be a better friend to Favre because his hands are better and he can block.

I also don't know that the backfield in MN is much better than the one Favre was in with the NYJ. Leon Washington, while he might not be as electrifying as AP, has better receiving skills out of the backfield and seems to me to be a much better blocker. Thomas Jones, also, was no stick in the mud.

I see the defense as the main reason that Favre would be coming into a successful situation. I have been somewhat jealous of Minny's D Line for the last few years.

QFT

Good post....

AP only had a meager 21 catches! thats crazy...i forgot about taylor tho...pack success with 3-4 D will be SO critical

and leon'nem were great for nyj

[MOBB DEEP]

As the season gets closer I'm seeing more of this kind of stuff out there...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/21/AR2009072102348_2.html?hpid=artslot&sid=ST2009072103450

Don't Say Goodbye Before It's Time to Leave

By Sally Jenkins
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:17 AM

Somebody once described retirement as "statutory senility." The boredom and mental drift that come with giving up work must be especially severe for athletes, whom we label "past it" by their early 40s, when most professionals are in their prime. After watching Tom Watson almost limp to a British Open title on a fake hip at 59, and Lance Armstrong rip across a road like he was tasered at 37, the evidence suggests athletes give up on themselves too early. Instead of listening to us, they ought take a lesson from Bette Davis: "I will not retire while I've still got my legs, and my makeup box," she said.

To some people, gray-stubbled Brett Favre looks ridiculous chasing a job with the Minnesota Vikings at 39. He's the sports version of an actress hanging around with too much powder and lipstick on her face. But if we learn nothing else from the events of this summer, it should be that we cheat ourselves out of meaningful performances when we sentence athletes to old age prematurely. One of these days, a golfer older than 50 will win a major championship, but it won't be because his audience encouraged him to keep playing.

When an athlete renounces his retirement, most of us groan. We complain they don't know when to get off the stage, and that they will tarnish our memories by gimping around as less than what they were. Somehow, we got the idea that their bodies and their legacies are our personal property. We want them to remain ideals, and don't want the sadness of watching them grow old. But that's our problem, not theirs.

Athletes such as Favre have it right. Studies show that retirement is no good for you. Even if you hate the job you go to every day, sudden abrupt inactivity is a bad idea. A working paper by the National Bureau of Economic Research entitled "The Effects of Retirement on Physical and Mental Health Outcomes" studied people in complete retirement over six years. It found that retirement led to a 5 to 6 percent increase in illness, a 6 to 9 percent decline in mental health, and a 5 to 16 percent increase in mobility difficulties.

The study also suggested that when retirement is involuntary, the symptoms -- which can range from expanding waistlines to depression to tobacco and alcohol use -- tend to be even worse. Forced retirement is exactly what athletes face: They are cut, released, or injured, and then there is the more subtle pressure of being continually told that they should go out on top, because it's a sign of neediness or weakness to hang around.

As Bill Bradley once said, "An athlete has two deaths." The loss of purpose, and of a reassuring regimen, can leave athletes feeling aimless to the point of desperation. "You wake up one day on the other side of the moon," Kareem Abdul-Jabbar once told me, after retiring from the NBA at 42. Jabbar initially struggled so badly with retirement that he actually sold his house. He woke up one day and decided it was too depressingly dark for him.

The conventional wisdom is that athletes who go out on top are being true to their greatness. In fact, they are being untrue to themselves. Great champions are in the business of exhausting themselves. They aren't content as long as they feel there is something left, and to waste any fraction of their capacities feels, to them, like a sin against nature. Their every instinct tells them to use themselves up. As spectators, we have no right to contradict them. "The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender," Vince Lombardi once said.

Nor does it matter that winning might be beyond them. A Tour de France victory is probably not in the cards for my friend and co-author Lance Armstrong. On Monday, he had to come to terms with the fact that he hadn't been able to stay with the 26-year-old Alberto Contador on a steep ride to Verbier, and fell 1 minute 37 seconds behind. "Contador was strong. Very strong," he said.

Up to that point Armstrong had hope, but he simply lacked the acceleration of the younger man, despite his arduous spring training. It was now obvious that he would be racing just to hang on to second or third place, though he showed a flash of his brilliance Tuesday, closing a 35-second gap during a brutal climb.

"Any regrets?" I asked.

"Only a couple of regrets," he replied. "Breaking my collarbone. This sucked. Nearly bailed there. Glad I didn't though. And missing my kids. But at least they are old enough now to understand what I do. I guess I don't regret it because I'm doing it again next year.

"I feel good and I'm having fun," he added. "I'm healthy so I can do whatever I want. As long as my family blesses it, then I don't need anything else."

Nolan Ryan got it right when he played baseball until he was 46, and so did Satchel Paige, playing until he was 59. George Foreman got it right when he won the IBF and WBA titles by flooring Michael Moorer at the age of 45, and Dara Torres got it right when she won two silvers in Beijing at 40.

Martina Navratilova is still getting it right, playing competitive tennis past the age of 50. Saw her just the other day; she's got a better physique than most American teenagers. She made the Wimbledon final at 38, and won a Wimbledon doubles title at 49. Although she finally retired from the professional tennis tour in 2006, she is spending this summer playing World Team Tennis.

None of which she would have done had she listened to the drumbeat of advice telling her to give it up over the last three decades.

"I sure felt that push from the press," she says. "When I lost a match in my 20s, it was because I had a bad day or someone just played really well. When I lost a match in my 30s, it was invariably because I was too old. I mean, I won two more Wimbledon singles titles after they tried to retire me. For that matter there were a few articles when I was 25 saying I should probably call it quits, that my best days were behind me. It is peculiar."

Consider a great brain surgeon, or an architect, Navratilova says. If a young gun comes along who's better, no one would suggest they quit.

The next time an athlete has a question about whether to stay in the game, the next time Favre debates his arm strength, or Armstrong questions his legs, they should remember the words of another Armstrong, who stayed in his own profession until the day he died.

"Musicians don't retire," Louis Armstrong said. "They stop when there's no more music in them."

good read, thanks freak

[Tarlam!]

Thoughts?!


Would you like them in this thread, or one of the 357 others?

Amen.

[Lurker64]

I wish people wouldn't title threads "BREAKING NEWS" because once they sit in the forum for more than a day, they're no longer breaking.

I keep accidentally clicking on this thread in hopes that it was actually breaking or news. Alas...

[MichiganPackerFan]

"Broken News"

"Old News"

"History"

"Snooze" (HA! get it? 'S' + "news" = "snooze") Feel the pain of a terrible pun!


Seriously though, good read!

[CaliforniaCheez]

I sure will be laughing if he doesn't sign with the vikings.

If he decides by July 30th then the negotiations for a contract can begin.

That is at least 3 more threads unrelated to the Packers.

[Fritz]

As a Packer fan and former sufferer of Favre's annual wishy-washy-ness, I too will cheer if he doesn't sign with Minnesota.

But I'll chuckle if he does sign, too.

[MOBB DEEP]

As a Packer fan and former sufferer of Favre's annual wishy-washy-ness, I too will cheer if he doesn't sign with Minnesota.

But I'll chuckle if he does sign, too.

win-win fritz

[MOBB DEEP]

Thoughts?!


Would you like them in this thread, or one of the 357 others?

Amen.

there YOU go tarlam; remain lighthearted big guy!

[MOBB DEEP]

vikings stars jared allen, AP, and hutchinson have been textn lord favre asking him to please come play with them! cute.....

reports are that he has been leaning toward not coming back and that he's feeling a great sense of obligation b/c of how hard they have been recruting him since nyj released him

money IS NOT an issue

[PlantPage55]

he's feeling a great sense of obligation b/c of how hard they have been recruting him since nyj released him

This is what he's always wanted. He didn't "feel wanted enough" when he decided to retire.

What a fucking needy prick.

[Fritz]

So is he kinda like the football version of a prick tease?

[MichiganPackerFan]

http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/78/78256/piercing-needle.jpg http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/800px-tea_bags.jpg

Get it?!!

Of course I'm leaving the whole tea bag thing WIDE open :twisted:

[MOBB DEEP]

favre needs to wake his country as up and let the world know what the heck he's gonna do!

i can see it now; i'll be on the road to see a client and my nephew will text me the verdict

i hvae not slept since wedsnesday nite waiting to hear favres plans and want to know before i go to work today

WAKE UP!

[MOBB DEEP]

he's feeling a great sense of obligation b/c of how hard they have been recruting him since nyj released him

This is what he's always wanted. He didn't "feel wanted enough" when he decided to retire.

What a fucking needy

RIGHT

[MOBB DEEP]

http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/78/78256/piercing-needle.jpg http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/800px-tea_bags.jpg

Get it?!!

Of course I'm leaving the whole tea bag thing WIDE open :twisted:

please explain the tea bag thing MPF

[MOBB DEEP]

cris carter made great point that no one should have to beg brett to play

DAYUM..!

[MJZiggy]

Mobb, when it has to be explained, it just isn't funny anymore. Prick + 3 teabags = pricktease...

[Fritz]

Okay, Mobb. Learn from the middle-aged white guy.

Hovering over another person, dipping one's "tea-bag" (yer balls in the sack, dude) on another person's eyes/mouth is tea-bagging.
]
Helps clear up the wrinkles, I suspect.

[MichiganPackerFan]

By the way, I do NOT recommend performing a google image search for "teabag" while in the office unless the filter is set to "strict"!

[GrnBay007]

By the way, I do NOT recommend performing a google image search for "teabag" while in the office unless the filter is set to "strict"!

Teabag from Prison Break???? :P

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xfhY__yasNw/Rh98kzAQ9jI/AAAAAAAAAB8/maZrfYGh9dE/s320/teabag.JPG

[MOBB DEEP]

Mobb, when it has to be explained, it just isn't funny anymore. Prick + 3 teabags = pricktease...

still kinda funny to me now that i get it... he he

[MOBB DEEP]

Okay, Mobb. Learn from the middle-aged white guy.

Hovering over another person, dipping one's "tea-bag" (yer balls in the sack, dude) on another person's eyes/mouth is tea-bagging.
]
Helps clear up the wrinkles, I suspect.

thnx, i guess lol

ive heard it but never fully understood it

[Pugger]

But seriously, folks, what is with this guy? I've never seen anyone this wishy washy since Charlie Brown! You have to wonder what Chilly and the other coaches are thinking - how committed IS Favre to playing for MN?? And this indecision and lack of commitment are probably the main reasons why MM decided to go with Rodgers as our starter over Favre last summer.

[MOBB DEEP]

I've never seen anyone this wishy washy since Charlie Brown!

thats funny

[MOBB DEEP]

favres good friend longwell has been textn brett the past few weeks

he told rachel nichols that brett says he feels good now but he's worried that 3/4 thru the season his body may give out

says that if he cant go full throttle then maybe he shouldnt come back at all

stop being a wuss

JUST DO IT!

[ThunderDan]

favres good friend longwell has been textn brett the past few weeks

he told rachel nichols that brett says he feels good now but he's worried that 3/4 thru the season his body may give out

says that if he cant go full throttle then maybe he shouldnt come back at all

stop being a wuss

JUST DO IT!

I've found that when you have those nagging doubts in your head they are usually right.

[denverYooper]

Maybe he's just screwing with the Vikings as a gift to the Packers.

I don't really think that, but I'm starting to doubt he's coming back.

[retailguy]

Maybe he's just screwing with the Vikings as a gift to the Packers.

I don't really think that, but I'm starting to doubt he's coming back.

Nah, he's coming back. It is all part of the "annual drama". If you can get away with it.... then you can. He can, and is.

You'll see him in purple on Friday, I think. Maybe Thursday night.

Also, you've got Marshall's consecutive game streak to beat too. Plus Ted Thompsons ass to kick. Plus 5 million Wisconsinites to insult. Too much to do, he must come back.

[MOBB DEEP]

Maybe he's just screwing with the Vikings as a gift to the Packers.

I don't really think that, but I'm starting to doubt he's coming back.

Nah, he's coming back. It is all part of the "annual drama". If you can get away with it.... then you can. He can, and is.

You'll see him in purple on Friday, I think. Maybe Thursday night.

Also, you've got Marshall's consecutive game streak to beat too. Plus Ted Thompsons ass to kick. Plus 5 million Wisconsinites to insult. Too much to do, he must come back.

wow

[Fritz]

Since there's nothing the Vikings are doing until training camp, no reason for Favre to wait any more.

I still think it'd be cool if he could orchestrate it so he could miss the first week or two of training camp. Sorry, Ras, but that'd be cool.

I'm just sayin'. Check me out, Fritz the Prognosticator!