Transactions Involving Former Packers

[Patler]

I find it interesting to follow players with Packer ties. If others are interested, maybe we can keep this as a running thread through out preseason, adding anything we find about such players. Kind of a one stop shop for information about players we followed on the Packers. To start it out:

Josh Bidwell - placed on IR by Tampa with a hip injury. Must be a significant injury for them to put him on IR this early.

Mike Hawkins - cut by Dallas on Monday. I didn't realize he was still flirting around with an NFL career. Shows that raw athletic talent will get you opportunity after opportunity.

Thomas Gafford - signed by KC.

[K-town]

What about Greg Pawlus (spelling?)? Former Duke point guard, came in to Green Bay for a tryout/interview, then decided to go back to school. Just named the starting Qb at Syracuse, despite not playing football in 4 years.
I think it's the same guy.

[oregonpackfan]

What about Greg Pawlus (spelling?)? Former Duke point guard, came in to Green Bay for a tryout/interview, then decided to go back to school. Just named the starting Qb at Syracuse, despite not playing football in 4 years.
I think it's the same guy.

Wow, he was named the starting QB, already?! I know he was an All-American at both football and basketball but to start after 4 years of inactivity is quite a feat. :shock:

[Patler]

What about Greg Pawlus (spelling?)? Former Duke point guard, came in to Green Bay for a tryout/interview, then decided to go back to school. Just named the starting Qb at Syracuse, despite not playing football in 4 years.
I think it's the same guy.

I hadn't heard that. Some were surprised that he picked basketball over football initially, saying he was really much better at football.

This will be an interesting ongoing story.

[Fritz]

Didn't Robert Ferguson sign with someone recently?

And does Carson Butler count as a former Packer?

[K-town]

What about Greg Pawlus (spelling?)? Former Duke point guard, came in to Green Bay for a tryout/interview, then decided to go back to school. Just named the starting Qb at Syracuse, despite not playing football in 4 years.
I think it's the same guy.

I hadn't heard that. Some were surprised that he picked basketball over football initially, saying he was really much better at football.

This will be an interesting ongoing story.

Here's the Link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4067162

[Patler]

What about Greg Pawlus (spelling?)? Former Duke point guard, came in to Green Bay for a tryout/interview, then decided to go back to school. Just named the starting Qb at Syracuse, despite not playing football in 4 years.
I think it's the same guy.

I hadn't heard that. Some were surprised that he picked basketball over football initially, saying he was really much better at football.

This will be an interesting ongoing story.

Here's the Link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4067162

Ya, I knew about the Packer tryout and all. I just hadn't heard about him at Syracuse. I thought he was headed to Michigan, or someplace like that.

A year as a starter might be all he needs to show he is worthy of an NFL training camp.

[sheepshead]

Brett Favre-Vikings

[Patler]

Brett Favre-Vikings

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MichiganPackerFan]

Brett Favre-Vikings

I just heard a whisper of a rumor about that and I was going to contribute that here.

[KYPack]

Brett Favre-Vikings

Who?

[Bretsky]

Didn't Robert Ferguson sign with someone recently?

And does Carson Butler count as a former Packer?


Da Fraud does not count; he was a bad dream and now he is a bad dream for another team

[MJZiggy]

I've been following Shaun Bodiford with the Giants, but only because he's a friend on Facebook...

[MichiganPackerFan]

After hearing these names, I realize there are way to many to follow. I guess with the 50+ roster size, that creates a lot of opportunity for turnover, and TT certainly used that over his first couple of years. ALways like knowing where people end up though. Except for #4. Already know that one.

[MJZiggy]

I think they thought maybe you didn't notice...

[Patler]

Mike Hawkins - cut by Dallas on Monday. I didn't realize he was still flirting around with an NFL career. Shows that raw athletic talent will get you opportunity after opportunity.

...and now Mike Hawkins has been signed by Tampa Bay.

[Patler]

Mike Hawkins - cut by Dallas on Monday. I didn't realize he was still flirting around with an NFL career. Shows that raw athletic talent will get you opportunity after opportunity.

...and now Mike Hawkins has been signed by Tampa Bay.

....and now Mike Hawkins has been cut by Tampa Bay. That lasted two days!

[MJZiggy]

Wonder how much a guy gets for that kind of temp work??

[pbmax]

Robert Ferguson is still on the Falcons. No 81 in your playbook, number one in Fritz's heart.

[Lurker64]

Robert Ferguson is still on the Falcons. No 81 in your playbook, number one in Fritz's heart.

I think this year might be his year...

[Patler]

Wonder how much a guy gets for that kind of temp work??

Per the CBA, all players receive room and board during TC, and per diem pay as follows:


Section 3. Rookie Per Diem: A rookie player will receive “per diem” payments at the rate of $775 per week in the 2006 League Year, $800 per week in the 2007-08 League Years, $825 per week in the 2009-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $850 per week in the 2011 League Year if is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, commencing with the first day of preseason training camp and ending one week prior to the Club’s first regular season game.

Section 4. Veteran Per Diem: A veteran player will receive “per diem” payments at the rate of $1,100 per week in the 2006-07 League Years, $1,225 per week in the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $1,375 per week in the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, commencing with the first day of pre-season training camp and ending one week prior to the Club’s first regular season game, and an additional $200 per week during the pre-season, commencing with the Club’s first pre-season game (exclusive of the Canton Hall of Fame Game and any International Game) and ending one week prior to the Club’s first regular season game.

[KYPack]

Robert Ferguson is still on the Falcons. No 81 in your playbook, number one in Fritz's heart.

I think this year might be his year...

He works hard in practice
Is the best blocking wide receiver
Plays great on ST
Is a shitty WR
and a pain in the butt who drops passes

He has the longest NFL career for doing nothing that I've ever seen.

[BallHawk]

http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nfl/2004/1219/photo/a_ferguson_il.jpg

This was the nail in Fergy's coffin.

[Packgator]

I find it interesting to follow players with Packer ties. If others are interested, maybe we can keep this as a running thread through out preseason

Ahman Green worked out for the Rams on Wednesday. They didn't sign him but did put him on the "ready list"......whatever that is. Green says he is once again 100%.

[Packgator]

Craig Nall has signed with the Florida Tuskers of the UFL.

[Fritz]

He's finally healthy! This is the year he breaks out!

[Patler]

New transactions:

Grey Ruegamer - cut by Seattle.
Jason Horton - cut by Oakland.

[denverYooper]

The Broncos signed Ingle Martin

[Rastak]

Mike Hawkins to the Raiders and Duke Preston to the Cowboys.

[Patler]

Mike Hawkins to the Raiders and Duke Preston to the Cowboys.

That's Hawkins third team since a week ago Monday!

[Rastak]

Mike Hawkins to the Raiders and Duke Preston to the Cowboys.

That's Hawkins third team since a week ago Monday!


Dude gets around!

[retailguy]

Mike Hawkins to the Raiders and Duke Preston to the Cowboys.

That's Hawkins third team since a week ago Monday!


Dude gets around!

well, he was fast.... :P

[sheepshead]

http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nfl/2004/1219/photo/a_ferguson_il.jpg

This was the nail in Fergy's coffin.

I was at that game.

[Fritz]

I heard that Torrance Marshall signed a letter of intent to play for Mike Sherman down at A & M. I don't think ol' Torrance ever actually went to college the first time around, so he's still eligible.

[Guiness]

I heard that Torrance Marshall signed a letter of intent to play for Mike Sherman down at A & M. I don't think ol' Torrance ever actually went to college the first time around, so he's still eligible.

I would think you have to be kidding. But, I've seen whackier stuff involving former pro athletes going back to school!

The NCAA is too big a business though. Surely there has to be some rule against it!

[Fritz]

Transactions Involving Former Packers:

Cletidus Hunt bought a pound of Columbian Red in Washington, DC last week.

James Lee bought a dozen Big Macs out in Salem, Oregon two days ago.

That's all I've got.

[KYPack]

His girlfriend is gonna get on your ass, Fritz.

(Didn't she make an appearance on Rats, or was that a spoof?)

[Fritz]

His girlfriend is gonna get on your ass, Fritz.

(Didn't she make an appearance on Rats, or was that a spoof?)

I hope it was a spoof, KY. Cuz back in the JSO days she came off as one nasty piece of woman. And not in a good way.

[Cleft Crusty]

edit

[pbmax]

Its like old timers week in here. Ty is back, Madtown appears, posts and let's expletives fly two posts in, Justin is back, now Cleft....

If texaspackerbacker and Tank/APB show up for the Cardinals game I'm going to have to have a good cry.

[sheepshead]

Its like old timers week in here. Ty is back, Madtown appears, posts and let's expletives fly two posts in, Justin is back, now Cleft....

If texaspackerbacker and Tank/APB show up for the Cardinals game I'm going to have to have a good cry.


Open the doors.

[Fritz]

And if UCLA Bruin makes an appearance, it'll be like a scene from Back to the Future.

[mission]

How have I made it here three years without ever getting a timeout? :lol:

[Cleft Crusty]

Its like old timers week in here. Ty is back, Madtown appears, posts and let's expletives fly two posts in, Justin is back, now Cleft....

If texaspackerbacker and Tank/APB show up for the Cardinals game I'm going to have to have a good cry.

Clefty is saving his energy for the start of the season. I promise to bring my C game the opening Sunday.

[Packgator]

I find it interesting to follow players with Packer ties.

Derrick Frost signed with the California Redwoods.

[bigcoz75]

Koren Robinson signed with the Florida Tuskers.

[mraynrand]

In a surprise move, the Florida Tuskers merged with the California Redwoods, cutting their overhead in half by combining their secretarial duties, laying off Redwoods' admin. assistant Marge Skrepnacht.

[swede]

In a surprise move, the Florida Tuskers merged with the California Redwoods, cutting their overhead in half by combining their secretarial duties, laying off Redwoods' admin. assistant Marge Skrepnacht.

So Koren is filing, typing, and doing light office cleaning?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

In a surprise move, the Florida Tuskers merged with the California Redwoods, cutting their overhead in half by combining their secretarial duties, laying off Redwoods' admin. assistant Marge Skrepnacht.


Careful, there are those on here that will not tolerate sarcasm or any attempt at humor of any kind. Just a heads up.

[sheepshead]

The Ingle Martin era is over in Denver.

[KYPack]

This thread should get bumped quite a few times in the next few days.

Vonnie Hilliday has a tryout with the Broncos. He may well make the roster.

The Dolphins cut Joey Thomas on Friday evening. Thomas played six games with the Dolphins in 2008, recording four tackles. He has been with GB, NO, Dallas, and the Edmonton Eskimos prior to his job with the Fins. We picked him in the 3rd in 2005. I'm happy to say I'd pretty much forgotten about him and his evil twin, Ahmad Carroll.

[Fritz]

What an ugly draft that was.

When Wolf did it a few years earlier, he emerged with AntoineAntwan/Antuan Edwards, Mike Mckennzie, and a Fred someone who morphed into Ahman Green.

Two outta three is better than oh for two.

We all make mistakes. But those two were ugly.

[Fosco33]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Broncos-sign-Vonnie-Holliday.html

[Fosco33]

Robert Ferguson cut by Falcons

[Fosco33]

Noah Herron cut again...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Browns-down-to-52-players.html

[pbmax]

David Martin gets the axe from the Dolphins.

[MJZiggy]

Noah Herron cut again...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Browns-down-to-52-players.html

Well, hell, he should be used to it by now...

[pbmax]

Paris Lenon dropped by the Patriots, who PFT via the Boston Globe says have been playing more 4-3 this year.

Orrin Thompson gone from the Gints as is Shaun Bodiford. Robert Thomas and Dave Rayner gone from Redskins. James Lee off the Bucs. Larry Birdine off the Titans. Mike Hawkins off the Raiders, Billy Cundiff off the Lions.

[MichiganPackerFan]

"Analyzing the Packers' 2009 roster"
By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Sept. 9, 2009

http://www.jsonline.com/packerinsider/58313282.html

GOOD READ!!


Come and gone
Twenty-five players spent time on the Packers' 53-man roster or injured-reserve list during the regular season a year ago and are no longer on the 53. They are:

Offense (10):
Defense (13):...DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, retired and living in Green Bay...
Specialists (2):

[pbmax]

MPF, that post might belong in the Garbage as there is a strict no tolerance policy to copying the work off JSO. They used to threaten Madtown on a regular basis.

[MichiganPackerFan]

MPF, that post might belong in the Garbage as there is a strict no tolerance policy to copying the work off JSO. They used to threaten Madtown on a regular basis.

My humblest apologies. I cited the work so I thought I was in the clear. Edited.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They used to threaten Madtown on a regular basis.

join the club

[Merlin]

KGB kind of fell off the radar after he was cut didn't he? I thought I read he tried out for a team late last season but I could be thinking of someone else. I am surprised to see him hang it up and not give it another shot, at least for a season or two. If Vonnie Holiday can still get a tryout, KGB you would have to think would warrant one too.

[KYPack]

The St Louis Rams move into the number 1 ex-Packer team position in this thread.

The Rams signed LB Paris Lenon and WR Ruvell Martin.

Last week, they signed S Anthony Smith

They are now a sister franchise with those two moves.

[KYPack]

DP

[boiga]

Jeez, week three is going to be a 1st team vs 2nd team exhibition game, isn't it?

[Guiness]

Paris Lenon dropped by the Patriots, who PFT via the Boston Globe says have been playing more 4-3 this year.

Orrin Thompson gone from the Gints as is Shaun Bodiford. Robert Thomas and Dave Rayner gone from Redskins. James Lee off the Bucs. Larry Birdine off the Titans. Mike Hawkins off the Raiders, Billy Cundiff off the Lions.

Looks like Rayner isn't going to stick anywhere long term. I thought he was a pretty good kicker when he was here, and would land somewhere else and make a decent career out of it. Guess not.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Paris Lenon dropped by the Patriots, who PFT via the Boston Globe says have been playing more 4-3 this year.

Orrin Thompson gone from the Gints as is Shaun Bodiford. Robert Thomas and Dave Rayner gone from Redskins. James Lee off the Bucs. Larry Birdine off the Titans. Mike Hawkins off the Raiders, Billy Cundiff off the Lions.

Looks like Rayner isn't going to stick anywhere long term. I thought he was a pretty good kicker when he was here, and would land somewhere else and make a decent career out of it. Guess not.

Rayner sucked. Though you were not alone in your assesment, as i believe merlin as thought he was better than crosby.

The thing about kickers is that is clearly defined, there is no subjectivity. At least in regards to making kicks (unless you have a bad holder)....kickoffs i guess we can talk about directions, hang time..which is more important..who gets the better direction, etc.

Rayner was 66% from 30-39....that is completely unacceptable. He was good from 40--49 at 8 of 11, but from 50 plus..1 of 3. So, if you got in his "sweet spot" he was good. Looking at him, you knew that his sweet spot would never hold.

He continued to be subpar at 30-39 and his 40-49 #s decreased, and he was futile from beyond the 50 at 1 for 5....the pack made the right move.

[Guiness]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

Ty can not discount or ignore his kickoffs...that is the subjective thing...booming..what about hangtime, etc. Not saying he was bad at that, at all.

On a fully loaded team, I could see rayner just kicking off...i was hoping for the same thing for Hall of the badgers.

I forget who..but i remember a team having two kickers for that express reason....for some reason daluiso (sp?) comes up.

[KYPack]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

Ty can not discount or ignore his kickoffs...that is the subjective thing...booming..what about hangtime, etc. Not saying he was bad at that, at all.

On a fully loaded team, I could see rayner just kicking off...i was hoping for the same thing for Hall of the badgers.

I forget who..but i remember a team having two kickers for that express reason....for some reason daluiso (sp?) comes up.

Yeah, yer right Ty.

Indy just cut their "kick-off kicker" & will have Vinitieri do both jobs, to pick up the extra roster spot.

Several teams have used the 3 kicker approach.

Rayner has an unofficial record for hang-time recorded on a KO. He was an average kicker, but his kick-off hang time has probably done as much as anything towards him staying on rosters.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

Ty can not discount or ignore his kickoffs...that is the subjective thing...booming..what about hangtime, etc. Not saying he was bad at that, at all.

On a fully loaded team, I could see rayner just kicking off...i was hoping for the same thing for Hall of the badgers.

I forget who..but i remember a team having two kickers for that express reason....for some reason daluiso (sp?) comes up.

Yeah, yer right Ty.

Indy just cut their "kick-off kicker" & will have Vinitieri do both jobs, to pick up the extra roster spot.

Several teams have used the 3 kicker approach.

Rayner has an unofficial record for hang-time recorded on a KO. He was an average kicker, but his kick-off hang time has probably done as much as anything towards him staying on rosters.

3 kicker? I'm assuming you mean 2..or that 3 includes the punter.

Or, you are on your 5th mint julep.

[KYPack]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

Ty can not discount or ignore his kickoffs...that is the subjective thing...booming..what about hangtime, etc. Not saying he was bad at that, at all.

On a fully loaded team, I could see rayner just kicking off...i was hoping for the same thing for Hall of the badgers.

I forget who..but i remember a team having two kickers for that express reason....for some reason daluiso (sp?) comes up.

Yeah, yer right Ty.

Indy just cut their "kick-off kicker" & will have Vinitieri do both jobs, to pick up the extra roster spot.

Several teams have used the 3 kicker approach.

Rayner has an unofficial record for hang-time recorded on a KO. He was an average kicker, but his kick-off hang time has probably done as much as anything towards him staying on rosters.

3 kicker? I'm assuming you mean 2..or that 3 includes the punter.

Or, you are on your 5th mint julep.

3 Kickers

1. Punter
2. FG & XP
3. Kick-off specialist.

You always gotta be a smartass, er what?

[Bretsky]

The St Louis Rams move into the number 1 ex-Packer team position in this thread.

The Rams signed LB Paris Lenon and WR Ruvell Martin.

Last week, they signed S Anthony Smith

They are now a sister franchise with those two moves.


I'm a Ram Fan and after signing Smith I think they are spying on our boards !!!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I don't think I thought he was better than Crosby...by halfway through Crosby's rookie year, I think it was pretty obvious the right choice had been made. I figured we'd gone from a good kicker to a great kicker...and thought the good kicker would land somewhere else.

I remember the booming kickoffs, which were so welcome after Longwell. I guess I blanked any missed FG's from my mind!

Ty can not discount or ignore his kickoffs...that is the subjective thing...booming..what about hangtime, etc. Not saying he was bad at that, at all.

On a fully loaded team, I could see rayner just kicking off...i was hoping for the same thing for Hall of the badgers.

I forget who..but i remember a team having two kickers for that express reason....for some reason daluiso (sp?) comes up.

Yeah, yer right Ty.

Indy just cut their "kick-off kicker" & will have Vinitieri do both jobs, to pick up the extra roster spot.

Several teams have used the 3 kicker approach.

Rayner has an unofficial record for hang-time recorded on a KO. He was an average kicker, but his kick-off hang time has probably done as much as anything towards him staying on rosters.

3 kicker? I'm assuming you mean 2..or that 3 includes the punter.

Or, you are on your 5th mint julep.

3 Kickers

1. Punter
2. FG & XP
3. Kick-off specialist.

You always gotta be a smartass, er what?

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

[Patler]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

Interesting. I hadn't heard of it referred to it that way.

Kicking camps: I think that does sound familiar.

though, i'm from the "punt, pass, kick" contest gen...so i think you can see the confusion.

[Patler]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

Interesting. I hadn't heard of it referred to it that way.

Kicking camps: I think that does sound familiar.

though, i'm from the "punt, pass, kick" contest gen...so i think you can see the confusion.

To go back even more, and resurrect a term about which you will probably say "Oh ya, that's right," there used to be four types of kickers used, a kick-off kicker, a punt kicker, a placement kicker and a drop kicker. Drop kicking went out a long time ago, but somebody tried one back in the '80s or early '90s (Heck, maybe it was the '70s!). Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

[Lurker64]

Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

They still do, it's just not at all common. The most recent complete copy of the rulebook I have is the 2006 one, but I doubt many of the kicking rules have changed.

A drop kick is legal as a free kick and a scrimmage kick, it just almost never happens. Doug Flutie kicked an extra point as a drop kick a few years back, IIRC. They lined him up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on the point-after-touchdown as though they were going for two, and when they snapped it to him, he just dropkicked it through and the try was good.

[Tarlam!]

I remember there being a big deal about Doug Flutie's final game where he drop kicked an XP or something....

[Tarlam!]

Lurker beat me to it. Again... :cry:

[Patler]

Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

They still do, it's just not at all common. The most recent complete copy of the rulebook I have is the 2006 one, but I doubt many of the kicking rules have changed.

A drop kick is legal as a free kick and a scrimmage kick, it just almost never happens. Doug Flutie kicked an extra point as a drop kick a few years back, IIRC. They lined him up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on the point-after-touchdown as though they were going for two, and when they snapped it to him, he just dropkicked it through and the try was good.

Flutie!! That was the one! Now I remember! Thanks Lurker!
(Why was I thinking it was so long ago?)

[Patler]

Everything is on video now days. Fluties drop kick:

Found an article that said the last succesful one in the NFL before Flutie was in 1941.

I have a vague recollection of someone on the Packers attempting but missing in the 1960s. Any other old timers remember that?

[Patler]

OK, why when I posted a youtube link did my message disappear? By editing and erasing the link the text came back.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Patler,

Are you saying they kept a specific player for drop kicks. I was familiar with the drop kick, but i thought it was executed by a regular player and was more of a surprise type tactic.

I thought it was more a off a skill set a well rounded back had....as opposed to kicking which usually had one player that did that job...though that player would also play another position.

[Patler]

Patler,

Are you saying they kept a specific player for drop kicks. I was familiar with the drop kick, but i thought it was executed by a regular player and was more of a surprise type tactic.

I thought it was more a off a skill set a well rounded back had....as opposed to kicking which usually had one player that did that job...though that player would also play another position.
All I'm saying is that a player with the capability was a drop kicker. "Drop" is another of the types of kicks and kickers. That said, not everyone had the skill, and my understanding is that at one time for some teams it was used rather than a "placement" kicker for field goals, so it wasn't necessarily always a surprise play.

[KYPack]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

It's probably generational. I was being snarky. I mainly was barking at you bc I had a rough day and didn't want to be accused of being loaded on Juleps. Use Maker's Mark for those, BTW. Kentucky's finest bourbon.

To me, all kickers are kickers, but maybe the term has evolved over time.

My freshman high school team drop kicked our extra points. it was hard to find a holder and snapper, so we just let our FG guy drop kick 'em. He never missed.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It's probably generational. I was being snarky. I mainly was barking at you bc I had a rough day and didn't want to be accused of being loaded on Juleps. Use Maker's Mark for those, BTW. Kentucky's finest bourbon.

To me, all kickers are kickers, but maybe the term has evolved over time.

My freshman high school team drop kicked our extra points. it was hard to find a holder and snapper, so we just let our FG guy drop kick 'em. He never missed.

Maker's Mark...finest bourbon. Sir, them is fighting words.

Ty much prefers:

bookers, blanton's, elijah craig, baker's 107, hancock's, and rock hill.

Choose your weapon...ty prefer's pistol's at dawn.

[Packgator]

I find it interesting to follow players with Packer ties.

Ahmad Carroll (CB) has signed with the Calgary Stampeders.

DeShawn Wynn (RB) has signed with the New Orleans Saints.

[VermontPackFan]

I see Tracy White is a starting linebacker for the Eagles, is it our Tracy White?

How about Aaron Rouse? Last I heard he was cut by the Giants last year?

Paris Lenon is still playing with someone...Lions? Panthers?

[Patler]

I see Tracy White is a starting linebacker for the Eagles, is it our Tracy White?

How about Aaron Rouse? Last I heard he was cut by the Giants last year?

Paris Lenon is still playing with someone...Lions? Panthers?

Rouse and Lenon were signed by Arizona. Rouse was cut last week. Lenon is listed as a starter.

[Joemailman]

Brett Favre plays with the Minnesota Vikings.

[sharpe1027]

Brett Favre plays with the Minnesota Vikings.

We landed on the moon!

[mraynrand]

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Blast from the banned past

[get louder at lambeau]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

[Joemailman]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He asked too many questions.

[retailguy]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

Go back and read some of his posts... It'll be pretty clear, I think. :D

[channtheman]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

[get louder at lambeau]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

Yeah, I'm familiar with his work, but I was wondering what straw broke the camel's back.

[swede]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

Yeah, I'm familiar with his work, but I was wondering what straw broke the camel's back.

I had a problem. I eliminated the problem. Do you have a problem with that?

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/dwight.jpg

[pbmax]

I miss Ty. Trained on the right poster, he was like rookie hazing all in one package. Too bad. Still not happy about that thread.

[Joemailman]

Tennessee signed Samkon Gado

Denver signed Jason Hunter

[channtheman]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

Yeah, I'm familiar with his work, but I was wondering what straw broke the camel's back.

Not sure if you have access to the Garbage Can but there's a thread in there that is quite interesting to read. Also, here's the one from the Romper Room where Admin actually stated his account was deactivated.

GC - events leading up to ban.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19394

Romper Room - the banning

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19947&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[get louder at lambeau]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

Yeah, I'm familiar with his work, but I was wondering what straw broke the camel's back.

Not sure if you have access to the Garbage Can but there's a thread in there that is quite interesting to read. Also, here's the one from the Romper Room where Admin actually stated his account was deactivated.

GC - events leading up to ban.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19394

Romper Room - the banning

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19947&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanks chann. Apparently I'm not special enough to view "The Garbage Can" though. Of all places to be exclusive, a garbage can? :cry:

From the other one, it just looks like average argumentative nothingness.

What are the rules on here anyway? I got a PM lecture from the Admin way back when for "shaking the shit out of idiots". Asked me to tone it down. I guess I did that satisfactorily because I have never gotten another warning, but I did respond to the PM asking what the rules are on this board, and never got a response.

[hoosier]

What are the rules on here anyway? I got a PM lecture from the Admin way back when for "shaking the shit out of idiots". Asked me to tone it down. I guess I did that satisfactorily because I have never gotten another warning, but I did respond to the PM asking what the rules are on this board, and never got a response.

Sometimes no response is itself an answer.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Not sure if you have access to the Garbage Can but there's a thread in there that is quite interesting to read. Also, here's the one from the Romper Room where Admin actually stated his account was deactivated.

GC - events leading up to ban.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19394

Romper Room - the banning

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19947&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I don't know why but I started reading the GC thread again. Scott's got a gem one liner to get things going (Is harlan here anymore?) and Skin's rant on Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:52 pm cracks my shit up too!

[get louder at lambeau]

What are the rules on here anyway? I got a PM lecture from the Admin way back when for "shaking the shit out of idiots". Asked me to tone it down. I guess I did that satisfactorily because I have never gotten another warning, but I did respond to the PM asking what the rules are on this board, and never got a response.

Sometimes no response is itself an answer.

That's deep.

[Fritz]

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Blast from the banned past

What ended up getting him banned, anyway?

He pushed a little bit too hard and when told to stop he pushed even more. He could be a fun poster at times but he got to the point where most of his posts were direct jabs at other posters and not at arguments.

Yeah, I'm familiar with his work, but I was wondering what straw broke the camel's back.

Not sure if you have access to the Garbage Can but there's a thread in there that is quite interesting to read. Also, here's the one from the Romper Room where Admin actually stated his account was deactivated.

GC - events leading up to ban.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19394

Romper Room - the banning

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19947&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanks chann. Apparently I'm not special enough to view "The Garbage Can" though. Of all places to be exclusive, a garbage can? :cry:

From the other one, it just looks like average argumentative nothingness.

What are the rules on here anyway? I got a PM lecture from the Admin way back when for "shaking the shit out of idiots". Asked me to tone it down. I guess I did that satisfactorily because I have never gotten another warning, but I did respond to the PM asking what the rules are on this board, and never got a response.

The rules? Don't shake the shit out of idiots.

[channtheman]

Thanks chann. Apparently I'm not special enough to view "The Garbage Can" though. Of all places to be exclusive, a garbage can? :cry:

From the other one, it just looks like average argumentative nothingness.

What are the rules on here anyway? I got a PM lecture from the Admin way back when for "shaking the shit out of idiots". Asked me to tone it down. I guess I did that satisfactorily because I have never gotten another warning, but I did respond to the PM asking what the rules are on this board, and never got a response.

Well back when I joined the way to get in the Garbage Can was to have 200 posts and been a member for a length of time I think. I know the post count was a requirement, not sure about length of membership. Madtown still owned the site then so I'm not sure how you gain access now. Try clicking on usergroups at the top and requesting membership. Maybe admin will allow you in at some point.

And yeah it pretty much was argumentative nothingness but it was a constant stream of the same people doing it in the Packers forum which I think was the main thing. Unregistered users who visit (lol) only have access to the Packers forum so it would be nice if it didn't have all that crap. I think most of the threads were moved to the GC or the Romper Room.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I gained access not to long ago, I think I just PM'ed the Admin.

[Zool]

And STILL no one has been able to get edited in the GC but me. I wear that as a badge of honor.

[Patler]

Tory Humphrey, TE, still earning a living:

signed by New Orleans on Wednesday.