Aaron Rodgers MVP?

[Packgator]

Las Vegas currently has Aaron Rodgers at +2800 to win the NFL MVP award.

If he were to win it.......

100......would get you 2800
50........would get you 1400
25........would get you 700
10........would get you 280
5..........would get you 140

Seems like a long shot (which it is) but......if the Packers were to have a big year Rodgers would obviously be a huge part of it. I'm not suggesting he is a MVP QB (yet) but there could actually be some value there. If (of course) we all lived in Las Vegas.

The favorites.......

T. Brady................+300
P. Manning............+400
A. Peterson............+700
D. Brees................+800
B. Roethlisberger....+1000
D. McNabb.............+1000

Others listed ahead of Rodgers......

Warner, Tomlinson, Fitzgerald, Rivers, Moss, Romo..........+1500

M. Ryan, Favre...........+1800

E. Manning, Owens.........+2000

Palmer, Steven Jackson, Cutler..........+2500

[Partial]

Way to early to guess and too many factors. They would need to have a very good record for that to happen imo.

[RashanGary]

I wouldn't be surprised if he won it. The way he's played, as hard as he works, as strong as his arm is and as fit as his body is. . . I didn't expect him to play as well as he has this preseason, but at this point, there is nothing he could do that would shock me.

[RashanGary]

Way to early to guess and too many factors. They would need to have a very good record for that to happen imo.

Parsh, they're going to rock!!

[Scott Campbell]

It'd be interesting to see if those odds have moved during the preseason. I would have scoffed at this 3 weeks ago. Now you ignore him at your own peril.

[Partial]

Way to early to guess and too many factors. They would need to have a very good record for that to happen imo.

Parsh, they're going to rock!!

The signs are showing up, I agree. We'll see. They look very impressive and the young players on O, especially Rodgers, appear to have taken a huge step forward. They look special so far. We'll see.

[RashanGary]

Way to early to guess and too many factors. They would need to have a very good record for that to happen imo.

Parsh, they're going to rock!!

The signs are showing up, I agree. We'll see. They look very impressive and the young players on O, especially Rodgers, appear to have taken a huge step forward. They look special so far. We'll see.

If Rodgers is on a team this year that wins 11 games and puts up these numbers:

4,400 yards
66% comp percentage
35 TD's
13 INT's
100+ QB rating



Will you admit you were wrong about him being maxed out at just better than average?

[Partial]

Way to early to guess and too many factors. They would need to have a very good record for that to happen imo.

Parsh, they're going to rock!!

The signs are showing up, I agree. We'll see. They look very impressive and the young players on O, especially Rodgers, appear to have taken a huge step forward. They look special so far. We'll see.

If Rodgers is on a team this year that wins 11 games and puts up these numbers:

4,400 yards
66% comp percentage
35 TD's
13 INT's
100+ QB rating



Will you admit you were wrong about him being maxed out at just better than average?

He doesn't look maxed out. His pocket presence looks much better and his skittish play in the pocket appears to be a thing of the past. We'll see how that translates to the regular season, but again, the signs are there.

You are putitng way too much stock in arbitrary numbers. We'll see. It ultimately comes down to record imo as the #1 factor.

[RashanGary]

Do you admit that he was not maxed out last year?

[Partial]

Do you admit that he was not maxed out last year?

Will you stop being a wanker? You've managed to make me want to kick someone in the balls already in one day back for the first time in like a month in a half.

[RashanGary]

Haha. Just answer the question, Partial. Admitting when we were wrong is the right thing to do. You'll have gobs more respect as soon as you say it and move on :).

[RashanGary]

I was wrong to. I never thought Rodgers would play as well as he did this preseason. It's been spectacular. Its not that hard to do.

[Partial]

Haha. Just answer the question, Partial. Admitting when we were wrong is the right thing to do. You'll have gobs more respect as soon as you say it and move on :).

He doesn't look maxed out, as I already said in two posts up. We'll see once the regular season starts. No reason to get fired up over nothing.

[RashanGary]

Yeah. And he's got a ways to go. I'm excited with what I've seen though. I think it's real.

[]{ilr]3]

A-Rodg highlights

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81238faa/Pre-WK-3-Aaron-Rodgers-highlights

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Haha. Just answer the question, Partial. Admitting when we were wrong is the right thing to do. You'll have gobs more respect as soon as you say it and move on :).

He doesn't look maxed out, as I already said in two posts up. We'll see once the regular season starts. No reason to get fired up over nothing.

So you were wrong, yes?

[Partial]

Haha. Just answer the question, Partial. Admitting when we were wrong is the right thing to do. You'll have gobs more respect as soon as you say it and move on :).

He doesn't look maxed out, as I already said in two posts up. We'll see once the regular season starts. No reason to get fired up over nothing.

So you were wrong, yes?

It would appear that way, but we'll see what happens. It's still just ps.

[Packgator]

It'd be interesting to see if those odds have moved during the preseason. I would have scoffed at this 3 weeks ago. Now you ignore him at your own peril.

He's been +2800 for the past two weeks. I don't think the number has moved since it came out. Which is a little surprising.

The over-under number for regular season wins has moved. The Packers had been 8.5 since the number first came out. After last weeks game it moved to 9.

[superfan]

A bet on Rodgers for MVP is probably throwing money away, but I do like those odds, especially compared to the guys you ranked earlier. Might be worth a 50 spot or so.

Look at it this way - IF GB were to win the SB, there is an excellent chance Rodgers would be league MVP. If they don't, he probably won't be MVP. The payout on Rodgers for MVP is much better than the payout for GB to win the SB, so the Rodgers bet makes more sense. Grant would need to become the second coming of Walter Payton to beat Rodgers for MVP, and that is the longshot of all longshots. Or some other player would need to have a monster year.

If I was a betting man, I would strongly consider that bet.

[superfan]

Ok, did a little research.

A site called bankrollsports.com has the Pack at 20-1 to win the SB. Rodgers is at 280-1 to win MVP. If GB were to win the SB, very good chance Rodgers is MVP. Would definitely bet on Rodgers for MVP over GB to win the SB.

[Chevelle2]

The MVP is given after the conclusion of the regular season, I believe

[HarveyWallbangers]

If the Packers were to win their division and Rodgers put up numbers a little better than last year, I'm betting he'd have a lot of sympathetic voters on his side--considering the Favre stuff that's been hanging over his head.

[Partial]

The way the offense looks there is a very good chance of it. If they are the class of the NFC than there is an extremely good chance unless Brady or Manning goes off nasty sick.

Definitely worth putting a twimper down. That's 5600 bucks to win if it happens. I think those odds are extremely favorable given that you know he's got the talent around him to put up the big numbers, and the RB isn't good enough on the team to warrant consideration.

13-3 and he is top 3 vote getters easily imo.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

MVP? Are you kidding me. All this talk is ridiculous.

If Arod doesn't have 3 or 4 wrapped up by midseason i'll be shocked.

[Tarlam!]

I dunno whether or not he'll be league MVP, but the way he has handled himself in the press and on the field of play these last 2 years has been exemplary.

The Favre thing, taking on the fans head on in a very humble yet confident manner, winning over the players (he had already won over the organization), well, that goes a long way to award winning player in my book.

I loved the pick when it was made, I've always been on the band wagon and that's cause I'm a homer in the first degree. But NOBODY could legitimately find too much about this kid to criticize these last couple of years.

Sheesh, I read somewhere he takes personal blame for the Packers only winning 6 last season. SHEESH!!

[MichiganPackerFan]

Ok, did a little research.

A site called bankrollsports.com has the Pack at 20-1 to win the SB. Rodgers is at 280-1 to win MVP. If GB were to win the SB, very good chance Rodgers is MVP. Would definitely bet on Rodgers for MVP over GB to win the SB.

Can't remember for sure. Don't they announce the MVP prior to the SB?

[rbaloha1]

Certainly capable given all the offensive playmakers and MM's play calling.

[boiga]

I'd be willing to bet the odds on Rogers MVP will change over the next couple of days as the Packers are starting to get too much media esteem.

Adam Schein at Fox, for example, has predicted Rogers at MVP too:
MVP — Aaron Rodgers, Packers QB

I wish he wasn't tearing it up in the preseason, basically having a perfect August. I was hoping Rodgers would fly under the radar so I could shock the world.

Brett Favre, eat your heart out.

It's Aaron Rodgers time.

When you go back and think of everything Rodgers went through last year, 2008 was truly impressive, dealing with the Favre hangover drama and a porous defense. And yet through it all, Rodgers passed for 4,038 yards and 28 touchdowns, and completed 64 percent of his passes.

I think the touchdowns and completion percentage will only go up. Rodgers will get balance with a bounce-back year from Ryan Grant. And he has the deepest 1 through 5 group at wide receiver in the league, highlighted by the explosive Greg Jennings and the consistent Donald Driver. Plus, Jermichael Finley adds some potential sizzle at tight end.

Rodgers went through ups and downs at the end of ball games and I firmly believe he is ready to even out his play down the stretch of contests. And it will be his play late in games that will help him become MVP.

Rodgers proved himself as the true leader of the Pack last year and into this offseason, where his dedication to the program got rave reviews and will prove to be a spring board to greatness in 2009. Rodgers and head coach Mike McCarthy are on the same page and the quarterback serves as an extension of the coach on the field.

I really think Aaron Rodgers blossoms into an elite player in 2009, guiding the Packers deep into the postseason and he will define the word value.

Look for fellow QBs Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers and a wild card named Tony Romo to also be in the hunt. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10015932/The-Scheiners:-2009-NFL-award-predictions

[HarveyWallbangers]

Aaron Rodgers rated #4 on the QB power rankings, and these aren't even fantasy rankings.
:D

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-09-03-qb-power-rankings_N.htm?csp=34

Packers are ranked 12th--behind Minnesota and above Chicago.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-power-rankings.htm

[RashanGary]

As everyone knows, I wasn't nearly as sold on Rodgers as others. I was ready to move on, but that was more about the other guy than the guy replacing him.

I'll admit, I did not see this coming at all. The way Rodgers has played this preseason is better than any QB play I remember as a Packer fan and I've seen some decent QB play the last few years.


Just because I wasn't on the wagon first, doesn't mean I won't get on now. I think Rodgers is a great player and has a great chance at winning MVP.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Looks like the rookie OL, Dietrich-Smith, joined ARod in the goofy facial hair contest.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo7.jpg

And Josh Sitton too.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo10.jpg

Welcome to the 70s, folks. Spitz.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo11.jpg

DC joins the fun.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo12.jpg

Don't forget about John Kuhn.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo29.jpg

DeShawn Wynn

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo31.jpg

The fun doesn't stop.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo41.jpg

Jenkins

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo34.jpg

Monty

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo38.jpg

Jolly

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo39.jpg

Bigby

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo49.jpg

[HarveyWallbangers]

Don't forget about these classics.

It started with the frat boy look:

http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blogmedia/2009/01/favre_rodgers.jpg

The pirate

http://dunkonyourface.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/aaron-rodgers1.jpg

The biker

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/aaron-rodgers-brett-favre.jpg

The Jesus look

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aaron-roders-press-conference.jpg

The 70s porn star look

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo67.jpg

[SnakeLH2006]

Snake likes Partial and JH, but seeing both fight it out...I almost masterbated.

Arod WILL put up great stats this year though.

[MOBB DEEP]

I'm betting he'd have a lot of sympathetic voters on his side--considering the Favre stuff that's been hanging over his head.

Speaking of favre; AMAZINGLY, he finished 2nd in mvp voting a mere 20 months ago as a geezer

:wink:

[Tarlam!]

Speaking of favre; AMAZINGLY, he finished 2nd in mvp voting a mere 20 months ago as a geezer

Actually, we were speaking about Aaron Rodgers.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Nice work Harv....

[Harlan Huckleby]

The 70s porn star look

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo67.jpg

I thought it was Borat. High five!

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Notice how Bigby is (arguably) the best-dressed guy there and he's the *only* one being "presented" by a dude?


:huh:


Not that there's anything wrong with that ... just sayin... :arrow:

[bobblehead]

Haha. Just answer the question, Partial. Admitting when we were wrong is the right thing to do. You'll have gobs more respect as soon as you say it and move on :).

He doesn't look maxed out, as I already said in two posts up. We'll see once the regular season starts. No reason to get fired up over nothing.

So you were wrong, yes?

It would appear that way, but we'll see what happens. It's still just ps.

Now I wanna throw you a lifeline cuz other are enjoying you admitting you were wrong too much.

Have you ever been this happy to be wrong about something before??

[Scott Campbell]

He looks like he belongs is movie with Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd. Notice the bottom button.

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo7.jpg

[Scott Campbell]

Extreme makeover:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/lou/sports/m-footbl/03-04roster/HS_spitz_jason.jpg

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo11.jpg

[RashanGary]

Is this like a male meat auction?

If so, why is Bigby the only one that has a man buying him?

[Zool]

He looks like he belongs is movie with Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd. Notice the bottom button.

Ghost busters?

[Packgator]

Ok, did a little research.

A site called bankrollsports.com has the Pack at 20-1 to win the SB. Rodgers is at 280-1 to win MVP. If GB were to win the SB, very good chance Rodgers is MVP. Would definitely bet on Rodgers for MVP over GB to win the SB.

Ten days ago the Packers were +2000 to win the Super Bowl. Today they are +1250. That's a pretty big move in just ten days. Packers are getting some play in Vegas.

Also....the Vegas odds to win the NFC North are now +175 for Green Bay, Minny, and Chicago. Two weeks ago the Vikings were the clear Vegas favorite to win the North.

[Chevelle2]

Ok, did a little research.

A site called bankrollsports.com has the Pack at 20-1 to win the SB. Rodgers is at 280-1 to win MVP. If GB were to win the SB, very good chance Rodgers is MVP. Would definitely bet on Rodgers for MVP over GB to win the SB.

Ten days ago the Packers were +2000 to win the Super Bowl. Today they are +1250. That's a pretty big move in just ten days. Packers are getting some play in Vegas.

Also....the Vegas odds to win the NFC North is now +175 for Green Bay, Minny, and the Chicago. Two weeks ago the Vikings were the clear Vegas favorite.

Awesome!

Do you have a link to these?

[MOBB DEEP]

Speaking of favre; AMAZINGLY, he finished 2nd in mvp voting a mere 20 months ago as a geezer

Actually, we were speaking about Aaron Rodgers.

Point taken....

[hoosier]

Trivia questions:

1. When is the last time the AP's NFL MVP played for the team that won the SB that year?

2. How many times has the MVP been on the SB in the last 15 years?

I for one hope that ARod does NOT get the MVP this year.

[RashanGary]

I think I remember Steve Young being MVP the year SF won.

[Packman_26]

Trivia questions:

1. When is the last time the AP's NFL MVP played for the team that won the SB that year?

2. How many times has the MVP been on the SB in the last 15 years?

I for one hope that ARod does NOT get the MVP this year.
Do you really think that there is a correlation between the two? I would think that the since winning a Super Bowl and an MVP are so difficult to do that it does not happen all that often, not that one prevents the other.

[hoosier]

Trivia questions:

1. When is the last time the AP's NFL MVP played for the team that won the SB that year?

2. How many times has the MVP been on the SB in the last 15 years?

I for one hope that ARod does NOT get the MVP this year.
Do you really think that there is a correlation between the two? I would think that the since winning a Super Bowl and an MVP are so difficult to do that it does not happen all that often, not that one prevents the other.

I was mainly amused by the realization that it's been 10 years (Kurt Warner, 1999) since an MVP was also on a SB winner. In the decade before that 5 of the 10 MVPs were also SB winners in the same year. So yeah, the "jinx" is probably not going to last much longer.

[MOBB DEEP]

son is a straight stud

[SnakeLH2006]

Extreme makeover:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/lou/sports/m-footbl/03-04roster/HS_spitz_jason.jpg

http://i.packers.com/pg/2009-09-02/photo11.jpg

LOL. But notice the major ass receding hairline lately?...Dude's like what 24-25? Damn. Who cares, I guess, as hot chicks dig the paycheck (notice the redhead clinging on? I miss the crazy hair though....

[MOBB DEEP]

I didnt realize Aaron is 2-8 in games decided by 7 points or less.... :cry:

Unfortunately QBs get too much credit and/or blame for the outcome... but, as the youngns say, it is what it is