Pack work out Levi Jones

[Tyrone Bigguns]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/62494562.html

Jones is pretty darn bad. Don't know how much "better" he is than Barbre, but speaking objectively, he is bad. First round pick unemployed. Yikes.

[boiga]

From the article, he's being looked at as a stand in for Clifton, not Barbre. If Chad can't come back after the bye, I can understand the Packers looking for a way to get Colledge and Spitz back to their regular spots.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

From the article, he's being looked at as a stand in for Clifton, not Barbre. If Chad can't come back after the bye, I can understand the Packers looking for a way to get Colledge and Spitz back to their regular spots.

My fault, ty didn't mean to express he was a replacement for Barbre....ty was using Barbre as the measuring stick of badness.

The thought of Barbre and Jones at the tackles is is outright scary..

Jones....i think was benched after j. allan destroyed him against the Bengals....almost got Palmer killed.

[packrulz]

No harm in taking a look at him, he was a starter, J. Allen made a lot of tackles look bad. He might be a good back up. Barbre is playing better by the way.

[Fritz]

Much has been made this past week in the JSO and here that the Packers have no first round picks playing on the offensive line, and this is why the Packers' offensive line is not good.

This Levi Jones thing is merely an attempt to address this. He's a former first round pick.

[pbmax]

He had a rough rookie campaign (Holdout maybe?) but I thought he had developed into a reasonable player. Or are you saying I need to read the article?

[Deputy Nutz]

I remember when the Bengals took him. What a reach.

Anyways I was looking at Colledge this past Sunday, and he has built himself into a guards. When he came into the league he was a bit lanky. Now he has some serious gerth and muscle. Even when he sucked he was always talked about being one of the hardest working players in the weight room and in the off season conditioning program. I think it has paid off, when he is at left guard and not at left tackle. I don't think he is a tackle anymore, and I am ok with that.

[KYPack]

I know about Levi and it is an interesting situation. Levi would be a prospect for LT only, as has been said. The Bengals had a 1st class OLine with Levi and Willie Anderson at their tackle spots.

Levi in his prime was one of the best LT's in football. He has a great kick step. I saw him shut down Dwight Freeny when Dwight was just blossoming as a top RDE. Jones sustained a serious knee injury and the Bengals conned him into coming back far too soon for his own good.

Levi played thru the pain and actually did a great job on one leg. The leg never got back to 100% and Levi never played at the high level of his earlier years. the Bengals, in their brilliant management style, accused him of being a malingerer and cut his pay from the earlier contract levels. So Levi (& I don't really blame him) became a bitter, clubhouse lawyer type.

When he was banged up and needed time off, the Bengals cut him.

Should you sign him now?

Really depends on his physical status. If he has rehabbed the knee with the time off, he might just be worth it. He is a brawler and a scrapper on run blocking and knows every trick in the book in pass pro. All the circumstances that made him a problem in the locker room have faded into the past.

He may not be an answer against Jared Allen on monday, but he might just be a better answer than the kiddie corps we have at tackle on the bench if we get injuries at that position..

[Sparkey]

If the Pack does sign him, it might be a sign that Clifton's injury is more severe than let on. Although, the recent news that Cliffy might play Monday night clouds that prospect a bit, unless of course the Cliffy playing line is nothing more than a smoke screen.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

What was his issue in 07...when Lewis benched him after allan roasted him?

Why has no team signed him....and he has been available since May. Especially with injuries in camps like barnes, Heyer, Terry, etc.

Sincere questions.

Could you detail the pay cut. Since he got a 30 million dollar contract in 06. Cause i don't recall the NFL being able to cut pay. What i recall is they asked him last year to take a pay cut and he refused. Are you saying that after the contract..prior to the 06 season...and before the 08 season they cut his pay before asking for another pay cut?

You time frame seems a bit off. Since he was drafted in 02..and got a new contract in 06...and then he was bothered by injuries..we have only 3 seasons to judge him on.

From 2-5 Jones played in 63 of of 64 regular season games, 60 started. Since 2005, played in 31 of 48 and started only 28.

He missed 10 in 06, 3 in 07 and 5 in 08.

By no means am i challenging your assesment of him as a player...and god knows the bengals FO sucks, but they did give him 30 mill...and he, injured or not...has hardly earned it.

[Deputy Nutz]

It might just mean that they realize that they actually need a back up left tackle.

[Tarlam!]

It might just mean that they realize that they actually need a back up left tackle.

Oh Lord, then get ready for the Blue Dog crowing fest to begin....

[Zool]

It might just mean that they realize that they actually need a back up left tackle.

Unpossible, although likely.

[KYPack]

Ty,

I didn't look anything up on Levi, I just noted what I remembered of the guy.

Your chronology is probably right and he did miss a ton of starts while he was carrying a pretty big ticket to the pay window. The Bengals didn't cut his pay, they just offered him less money, then cut him when he wouldn't take it? Sure, that was probably how he got handled. My point was that he did play when severely damaged and got treated poorly for doing so.

He had a beef with the way he was treated in Cincy and some of those feelings were justified.

I'm only interested in the idea he could help us thru a shaky patch at LT. That is a possibility, & I'd bring him in and work him out. He might be a solution and we can use one of those. He's definitely not the "final solution", but he might help.

He's out since May for a variety of reasons, one of which might be he can't play anymore. if he can go, he is better than the young bloods we have on the bench.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty,

I didn't look anything up on Levi, I just noted what I remembered of the guy.

Your chronology is probably right and he did miss a ton of starts while he was carrying a pretty big ticket to the pay window. The Bengals didn't cut his pay, they just offered him less money, then cut him when he wouldn't take it? Sure, that was probably how he got handled. My point was that he did play when severely damaged and got treated poorly for doing so.

He had a beef with the way he was treated in Cincy and some of those feelings were justified.

I'm only interested in the idea he could help us thru a shaky patch at LT. That is a possibility, & I'd bring him in and work him out. He might be a solution and we can use one of those. He's definitely not the "final solution", but he might help.

He's out since May for a variety of reasons, one of which might be he can't play anymore. if he can go, he is better than the young bloods we have on the bench.

K.

Like i said, no countering bengals effed up FO and his ability...but, they paid him big dollars...and, he didn't produce...whatever the reason.

Was jones the one that got in the fight with porter in Vegas?

[Sparkey]

It might just mean that they realize that they actually need a back up left tackle.

That is entirely possible, it just seems out of the norm. I mean, TT & MM value versatility on the o-line so much, that it would be out of character to sign him strictly as a back-up.

Interestingly, if they did sign him. Who would get cut ?

[sheepshead]

It might just mean that they realize that they actually need a back up left tackle.

That is entirely possible, it just seems out of the norm. I mean, TT & MM value versatility on the o-line so much, that it would be out of character to sign him strictly as a back-up.

Interestingly, if they did sign him. Who would get cut ?

I was thinking the same thing. Might be the biggest reason we dont see him in green and gold.

[KYPack]

Ty,

I didn't look anything up on Levi, I just noted what I remembered of the guy.

Your chronology is probably right and he did miss a ton of starts while he was carrying a pretty big ticket to the pay window. The Bengals didn't cut his pay, they just offered him less money, then cut him when he wouldn't take it? Sure, that was probably how he got handled. My point was that he did play when severely damaged and got treated poorly for doing so.

He had a beef with the way he was treated in Cincy and some of those feelings were justified.

I'm only interested in the idea he could help us thru a shaky patch at LT. That is a possibility, & I'd bring him in and work him out. He might be a solution and we can use one of those. He's definitely not the "final solution", but he might help.

He's out since May for a variety of reasons, one of which might be he can't play anymore. if he can go, he is better than the young bloods we have on the bench.

K.

Like i said, no countering bengals effed up FO and his ability...but, they paid him big dollars...and, he didn't produce...whatever the reason.

Was jones the one that got in the fight with porter in Vegas?

Yeah. Porter and his boys jumped Levi. It all stems back to the fact that Levi used to shut Joey up and out on the field. I kid you not, Levi in his prime was a real good hand at LT. How far are we from his prime? A good ways. He might have a few quarts left in the tank.

I saw Levi shut Joey Porter down twice and Dwight Freeny, when Dwight was killin' it.

I doubt we sign him, definitely won't if Chad can play Monday.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty,

I didn't look anything up on Levi, I just noted what I remembered of the guy.

Your chronology is probably right and he did miss a ton of starts while he was carrying a pretty big ticket to the pay window. The Bengals didn't cut his pay, they just offered him less money, then cut him when he wouldn't take it? Sure, that was probably how he got handled. My point was that he did play when severely damaged and got treated poorly for doing so.

He had a beef with the way he was treated in Cincy and some of those feelings were justified.

I'm only interested in the idea he could help us thru a shaky patch at LT. That is a possibility, & I'd bring him in and work him out. He might be a solution and we can use one of those. He's definitely not the "final solution", but he might help.

He's out since May for a variety of reasons, one of which might be he can't play anymore. if he can go, he is better than the young bloods we have on the bench.

K.

Like i said, no countering bengals effed up FO and his ability...but, they paid him big dollars...and, he didn't produce...whatever the reason.

Was jones the one that got in the fight with porter in Vegas?

Yeah. Porter and his boys jumped Levi. It all stems back to the fact that Levi used to shut Joey up and out on the field. I kid you not, Levi in his prime was a real good hand at LT. How far are we from his prime? A good ways. He might have a few quarts left in the tank.

I saw Levi shut Joey Porter down twice and Dwight Freeny, when Dwight was killin' it.

I doubt we sign him, definitely won't if Chad can play Monday.

Hmm. Pitt won those games...or the important ones.

Prime: When did prime suddenly became 22-25?

[bobblehead]

From the article, he's being looked at as a stand in for Clifton, not Barbre. If Chad can't come back after the bye, I can understand the Packers looking for a way to get Colledge and Spitz back to their regular spots.

My fault, ty didn't mean to express he was a replacement for Barbre....ty was using Barbre as the measuring stick of badness.

The thought of Barbre and Jones at the tackles is is outright scary..

Jones....i think was benched after j. allan destroyed him against the Bengals....almost got Palmer killed.

Insert Eddie Murphy in the barber shop voice:

"I don't know nothin' 'bout that, all I know is he whooped Joey Porter's ass at the Palms Casino"

[bobblehead]

Was jones the one that got in the fight with porter in Vegas?

Yessir, was sittin' there mindin' his own business when porter's loud mouthed brother wouldn't leave him alone. Then Porter sucker punches him while he was sitting with his back turned. Joey, brother, and friend kicked him about 10 times each while he fought to his feet then proceeded to toss all 3 of them around like rag dolls as joey ran behind a female security guard.

And that is a first hand account. And for the record the female security guard was named angel and stood about 5'2" (WTF was she doing being the first one to the scene?)

[CaptainKickass]

So if the Pack hires this guy -

Do we call him "501"?

Or - maybe we call him "Buttonfly"?

It's never too early for lame nicknames.

[Fritz]

Levi, Levi liked his money.

And if the Packers hire him, do they cut Evan "Marlene" Dietrich-Smith and activate Giaco-whoever to back up at right tackle?

Is he developed enough to back up Barbe as well as, say, Tony Moll might have?

[KYPack]

Hmm. Pitt won those games...or the important ones.

Prime: When did prime suddenly became 22-25?

His prime was 2003 - 2005.

He got in the groove rapidly for a young tackle and was a top hand at handling speed rushers. He had great footwork and Joey Porter didn't piss a drop against him. Yeah, the Steelers beat the Bengals in that time-frame, but Jones had great games against all speed rushing guys in that same period. Jones downfall came when he came back after a knee scope way too quickly. He never got back to his peak and stayed hurt due to various leg miseries.

I'd look at him bc he has had some time to heal. if he could get back to 80% of his top form, he'd be way better than the kids we have and others we are looking at.

From the GBPG...

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Levi Jones, 5 other offensive linemen work out for Packers
The Packers worked out three guards and three tackles on Monday, according to a source with access to the NFL's internal transaction wire.

The most notable name was tackle Levi Jones, the former first-round draft pick who has played in 94 NFL games (including 89 starts), all for the Cincinnati Bengals.

The other two tackles were: Peter Fields, who plays for the Odessa Roughnecks of the Indoor Football League, and Isaac Sowells, a former fourth-round pick of the Cleveland Browns.

The three guards were: Cody Balogh of Montana (who has spent time on the Bears practice squad), Stanley Daniels of Washington and Ryan Delrosal of Dixie State.

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That's the second guy we've looked at from that Odessa team. Must be a smokin' ballclub.

Levi Jones was once a top LT in the NFL. Nobody knows this, cause he played for the Bengali's, but it is true.