OFFICIAL Packers @ Vikings Game Thread

[mmmdk]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

I agree; have all night - have & will all year long.

When refs rule the Packers still drool. Nuff said. Sad truth & preseason over.

[woodbuck27]

Rodgers just has 99 yards to go and get seriously injured. This game is over. Get him on the bench.

[retailguy]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.

[Fosco33]

Rodgers just has 99 yards to go and get seriously injured. This game is over. Get him on the bench.

Not yet.

[PackerTimer]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

Wow. I actually agree with you. They haven't really brought pressure on third down at all. Although you still have to win your individual battles and they aren't.

[pbmax]

Rodgers just has 99 yards to go and get seriously injured. This game is over. Get him on the bench.
There are 9 minutes left Woodie, what are you talking about?

[Partial]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.

Why do you feel this way? They kept the games best player in tact. They rushed 3-4 rushers most of the time on passing plays. They got ZERO pressure. What happened to the attacking attitude?

[pbmax]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.
Pressure in a 3-4 must come from OLBs first. That is DL for all intents and purposes in a 3-4 on a passing down. Or a 2-4-5 for that matter.

[MOBB DEEP]

winfield is god

[Badgerinmaine]

Rodgers just has 99 yards to go and get seriously injured. This game is over. Get him on the bench.
I'm not throwing in the towel, and neither will he.

[mmmdk]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

Basically the same D (personel) as last year. Still sucks. DL sucks; teams pass too.

[MichiganPackerFan]

what happened to the quick passes and screen we started out with?

[retailguy]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.

Why do you feel this way? They kept the games best player in tact. They rushed 3-4 rushers most of the time on passing plays. They got ZERO pressure. What happened to the attacking attitude?

It is simple Partial. They have to get pressure to be effective. Yes, they have to stop the run, but NOT at the expense of getting pressure.

they have gotten NO pressure all year. its basic football. I played it. I understand it.

[Jimx29]

LOL...... what a predictable ending

[Partial]

Is that 5 sacks for Allen tonight? 2 forced fumbles/ Wow.

[Bossman641]

He wasn't down?

[MOBB DEEP]

TOTALLY out classed

[Fosco33]

can ground cause fumble?

[Gunakor]

I don't know if he got out of the EZ or not, but that definitely wasn't a fumble. He was on the ground.

[Badgerinmaine]

he was down!

[mmmdk]

what happened to the quick passes and screen we started out with?

Baffled!

WRs??? Have they been covered all night...with that kind of heat?

[Bretsky]

If Bart Starr was our coach Lynn Dickey would play action pass on a bomb on first down here
Would it work or be INT? Before my time.

Yes, it often worked; he'd throw a bomb to Loften.

Lynn Dickey was the best Long Ball QB I've ever seen in Green Bay

Packers offense was unbelievable back then in the prime; but our defense was twice as bad as our offense was good.

Best regular season game I've ever seen was the 48-47 victory when the Redskin Straight on Kicker (think his name was Mark Mosely) missed a field goal on the last play of the game

[red]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are

[Jimx29]

challenge to give them a safety

[Partial]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.

Why do you feel this way? They kept the games best player in tact. They rushed 3-4 rushers most of the time on passing plays. They got ZERO pressure. What happened to the attacking attitude?

It is simple Partial. They have to get pressure to be effective. Yes, they have to stop the run, but NOT at the expense of getting pressure.

they have gotten NO pressure all year. its basic football. I played it. I understand it.

They got a lot of pressure in Chicago.

You don't have to worry about stopping the run on passing plays.

How many third and longs have they converted? We have stopped the run on first and second. On third and long, you need to send some heat. Sending 3 guys is completely unacceptable. That is worse than Vanilla Bob.

Agree to disagree I guess, but the problem is the pass rush and the lack of rushers being sent.

[retailguy]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.
Pressure in a 3-4 must come from OLBs first. That is DL for all intents and purposes in a 3-4 on a passing down. Or a 2-4-5 for that matter.

No. Not when you have LB's in coverage. You have got to get pressure with the front. these guys are getting pushed back.

stopping the run. yes. pressure, no.

[Sparkey]

Challenged and the ruling will be a safety.

[Bretsky]

LOL

what else?



DID YOU HAVE TO ASK ?
THAT PLAY IS ON YOU ! :lol:

[Brando19]

Wow....if you'll excuse me...i'm going to go throw up now.

[PackerTimer]

Well he was down but I guess it doesn't matter.

[Fosco33]

embarrassing to be on oline on this team. we play w/ 3rd stringers and max protect and can't do shit

[MichiganPackerFan]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are

games are won on the line and we don't have one

[woodbuck27]

OK on that fumble it`s lights out Packers. The Vikings just dominated this game on both sides of the ball.

Ohh. . . MM challenges again. No one does it more.

Just get it over with MM before you lose your QB.

Looks like a safety on that supposed fumble. AR`s knee was down.

[Fosco33]

safety

[Sparkey]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are

2 - 2 is not a season.

[mmmdk]

he was down!

Safety!

Safety dance!

Goodnight, it's 5:21 am

Hope we beat Lions in 2 weeks...one of few W this season??

[Partial]

This is a worse beating than I thought. We've scored one TD offensively. Horrible.

The Vikes have dominated every element of the game.

[MOBB DEEP]

vikings are on a whole different level then we are

BOOM

[pbmax]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

disagree. you're entitled to your opinion.
Pressure in a 3-4 must come from OLBs first. That is DL for all intents and purposes in a 3-4 on a passing down. Or a 2-4-5 for that matter.

No. Not when you have LB's in coverage. You have got to get pressure with the front. these guys are getting pushed back.

stopping the run. yes. pressure, no.
In a 3-4, the OLBs ARE your ends. Especially in the 2-4-5 nickel we play. We are talking about the same players (Kampman and Matthews or Poppinga) just calling them different positions.

[red]

LOL

what else?



DID YOU HAVE TO ASK ?
THAT PLAY IS ON YOU ! :lol:

i guess

theres enough blame to go around for this one

i guess i can take some

[Brando19]

Oh shit....safety comin here.

Called it.

[Bretsky]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are


one game

[Fosco33]

I'm all for supporting a cause but this pink stuff is too much

[Sparkey]

This is a worse beating than I thought. We've scored one TD offensively. Horrible.

The Vikes have dominated every element of the game.

This reminds me of some of the beat downs Favre's Packers got in Minnesota on a regular basis in the early 90's.

[Jimx29]

Most importantly...will the TT dick suckers admit to his failures yet?

[Bossman641]

Am I the only one who thinks Grant has looked pretty good tonight? Just wish he has more chances :beat:

[mmmdk]

Put Flynn in...uhm...Vikings ball!

[Partial]

Why are we out of challenge if we won?

Did they do that just to avoid giving Favre another TD pass? 4 TD passes would look really bad.

Stupid challenge imo. Gave them point (though they probably would have gotten them either way).

[Brohm]

Forget the Farve thing. He'd be dead with this line. I'd fire TT for his debacle with the O-line...and possibly ruining his bling QB on top of it due to said failure. Fire MM for dumbness, undisciplined teams, not hiring proper coaches to coach what you got. Shit blow up this lethargy and start over.

[MOBB DEEP]

frickn vikes laughn and hamming it up! thompson is a joke!



j/k

[mmmdk]

Most importantly...will the TT dick suckers admit to his failures yet?

Not Clay :lol: Or Chuck Or Rodgers

[pbmax]

In a 3-4, the OLBs ARE your ends. Especially in the 2-4-5 nickel we play. We are talking about the same players (Kampman and Matthews or Poppinga) just calling them different positions.
In a passing down, that is. One OLB is the fourth D lineman. or in the 2-4-5, 2 OLBs are the DEs.

[Gunakor]

Most importantly...will the TT dick suckers admit to his failures yet?

If Aaron Rodgers doesn't perform like a franchise quarterback for the Green Bay Packers over the next decade, certainly. The decision to move on wasn't about tonight.

[Jimx29]

Am I the only one who thinks Grant has looked pretty good tonight? Just wish he has more chances :beat:you first need a coach that has more than a 1st graders imagination in play calling

[retailguy]

In a 3-4, the OLBs ARE your ends. Especially in the 2-4-5 nickel we play. We are talking about the same players (Kampman and Matthews or Poppinga) just calling them different positions.

Yes. I agree with that. But, when you put the LB's in coverage, you either have to rely on the front to generate pressure, OR blitz the secondary. they didn't blitz the secondary. They rely on the front to generate pressure or at least hold the line, and they CANNOT.

This D does not work without pressure. and there is NONE.

[Partial]

Favre wants another one. I'm telling you he is gonna try to throw another TD.

Favre is unafraid to step on the throat.

Gruden is right. Why is Caper's not adjusting like he said he would and putting Kampman's hand on the ground? He sucks rushing from the upright position.

[Fosco33]

i guess that's good?

7 sacks

career high for allen

19 on the year.

a few years ago favre had like 10 all year.

sacks are worse than holdin calls - drive killers

[MichiganPackerFan]

i say some late hard hits on favre would make up for the lack of calls against MIN

[woodbuck27]

If the Vikings go on to win. Favre will have defeated (as QB) every team in the NFL. The first QB in NFL history to do so.

By the way. No QB has ever won an NFL playoff game as old as Favre will be if the Vikings do so this season.

[red]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are


one game

i don't think we have the gm, coach, players, brains, or heart to do anything this season

and i'm really getting sick of m3's teams looking like gutless heartless pussies

[MOBB DEEP]

Most importantly...will the TT dick suckers admit to his failures yet?

:roll:

[Fosco33]

except for corraling AP - the D scheme hasnt worked tonight - no pressure

[Bretsky]

Am I the only one who thinks Grant has looked pretty good tonight? Just wish he has more chances :beat:


You might be; he's had a few nice plays but looks very ordinary to me.

I was once on board with him as a legit #1 RB but I've flipped and think he's the perfect complimentary back.

[Brando19]

Favre wants another one. I'm telling you he is gonna try to throw another TD.

Favre is unafraid to step on the throat.

Gruden is right. Why is Caper's not adjusting like he said he would and putting Kampman's hand on the ground? He sucks rushing from the upright position.

Why wouldn't he? It's easy as hell.

[PackerTimer]

Favre wants another one. I'm telling you he is gonna try to throw another TD.

Favre is unafraid to step on the throat.

Gruden is right. Why is Caper's not adjusting like he said he would and putting Kampman's hand on the ground? He sucks rushing from the upright position.

I think they'll probably run run run run.

[Brohm]

sorry guys

game over, season over

vikings are on a whole different level then we are


one game

i don't think we have the gm, coach, players, brains, or heart to do anything this season

and i'm really getting sick of m3's teams looking like gutless heartless pussies

Yep

[Badgerinmaine]

Why are we out of challenge if we won?

Did they do that just to avoid giving Favre another TD pass? 4 TD passes would look really bad.

Stupid challenge imo. Gave them point (though they probably would have gotten them either way).
1. You have to win both challenges to get a third. Pack lost the first one.
2. Not a dumb challenge at all. Keeps it a two-poss. game. Even a sure FG would have made it 3.

[pbmax]

In a 3-4, the OLBs ARE your ends. Especially in the 2-4-5 nickel we play. We are talking about the same players (Kampman and Matthews or Poppinga) just calling them different positions.

Yes. I agree with that. But, when you put the LB's in coverage, you either have to rely on the front to generate pressure, OR blitz the secondary. they didn't blitz the secondary. They rely on the front to generate pressure or at least hold the line, and they CANNOT.

This D does not work without pressure. and there is NONE.
Yes, very true. It will be interesting to see what the breakdown is with McGinn on what defenses were called and what kind of pressure he sent over the game.

[Brohm]

We shart at home against Cinci (not a bad team though). HEartless attempt. And stink up the joint in all facets on MNF...again.

[Partial]

Okay that is a good point. Didn't know about the two challenges and didn't think about the score.

[Bretsky]

need a stop; that safety was a great challenge and gives us a shot for OT

[Bossman641]

Am I the only one who thinks Grant has looked pretty good tonight? Just wish he has more chances :beat:


You might be; he's had a few nice plays but looks very ordinary to me.

I was once on board with him as a legit #1 RB but I've flipped and think he's the perfect complimentary back.

Don't get me wrong. He hasn't looked all world or anything. But he's made a few guys miss and has set up the screen well.

[Iron Mike]

Alright, why is there no "Fire Campen Now" thread yet??? :roll:

[Bretsky]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now

[PackerTimer]

Come on guys the sky isn't falling here yet. Take the bye week to get healthy and hope we can straighten some things out. Most importantly O-Line and D-Line need to do a lot of work.

[Brohm]

Wow....total cornholing tonight.

[pbmax]

except for corraling AP - the D scheme hasnt worked tonight - no pressure
Well, that is a pretty big win. The problem is that the other half of the O battle was a gut wrenching decimation.

[Partial]

"...more like one in a million..."

"So you're telling me theres a chance!"

[Bretsky]

Alright, why is there no "Fire Campen Now" thread yet??? :roll:


Perhaps because we have limited talent there to work with

[red]

Alright, why is there no "Fire Campen Now" thread yet??? :roll:

i think theres a few around here somewhere

[Brando19]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now

:lol: Maybe you need to replay this game over and over.

[MichiganPackerFan]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now

would you kindly ask if she'd throw a few things in for me too? I've worked too much lately to have time :lol:

[pbmax]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now
Is she beating it with rocks like I am? :lol:

[retailguy]

grant still trying. about the only one.

[Badgerinmaine]

Come on guys the sky isn't falling here yet. Take the bye week to get healthy and hope we can straighten some things out. Most importantly O-Line and D-Line need to do a lot of work.
I want to think this way...maybe in the morning, I will.

[Brohm]

Come on guys the sky isn't falling here yet. Take the bye week to get healthy and hope we can straighten some things out. Most importantly O-Line and D-Line need to do a lot of work.

Need players for the O-line to be able to do some work. TT would have to seriously go against the grain for that. Maybe desparation will do that. But reality is, should never have gotten to this point.

[Partial]

Wasn't Grant's last long TD run last year against the Vikes in week 1? I cannot remember one since.

[ThunderDan]

Without the turnovers and the dropped pass in the endzone, its a whoever has the ball last game.

[retailguy]

except for corraling AP - the D scheme hasnt worked tonight - no pressure
Well, that is a pretty big win. The problem is that the other half of the O battle was a gut wrenching decimation.

yes, huge win. but the rest of it? not so much.

[Bretsky]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now

would you kindly ask if she'd throw a few things in for me too? I've worked too much lately to have time :lol:


no way dude; if I'm renting her I'm asking for BIG BUCKS !!

[woodbuck27]

Most importantly...will the TT dick suckers admit to his failures yet?

:roll:

They`ll play off this game as not all that important. :D The big game coming with Vikings at Lambeau. We have a long ways to go to compete with the Vikings. We need an OL and a defense.

We need a running game.

[Bossman641]

Wasn't Grant's last long TD run last year against the Vikes in week 1? I cannot remember one since.

Week 1 last year? He busted a long one but didn't score.

[Brando19]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

[Partial]

Without the turnovers and the dropped pass in the endzone, its a whoever has the ball last game.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Really?

[Brohm]

Shit was ugly from the start but really down hill with that 4th down dropped TD in the gullet

[Badgerinmaine]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now
Send her to the Metrodome. The refs have left laundry all over the field there tonight... :lol:

[retailguy]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

the defensive scheme. they are letting them move the ball.

[Bretsky]

Gruden REALLY adds to this MNF cast

Best guy they've haad in years

[ThunderDan]

Without the turnovers and the dropped pass in the endzone, its a whoever has the ball last game.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Really?

Yeah, that's 10-13 points right there.

[retailguy]

my wife is so frustrated she's doing the laundry right now

would you kindly ask if she'd throw a few things in for me too? I've worked too much lately to have time :lol:


no way dude; if I'm renting her I'm asking for BIG BUCKS !!

pretty sure he wasn't interested in renting. i think he wanted it for free.

[Fosco33]

most sacks allowed - gb w/ 19.

16 qbs have 7 or less

http://www.hostpic.biz/uploads/fae69a577d.jpg (http://www.hostpic.biz)

[Bretsky]

HUGE HUGE PLAY

[crosbiegrad]

Jordy has had a decent game

[Partial]

Garbage time TD... let's hope they have some magic here. Atta boy Jordy. Hopefully not too little too late.

[Sparkey]

FUCK them Vikings get the two pointer!

[PackerTimer]

Come on guys the sky isn't falling here yet. Take the bye week to get healthy and hope we can straighten some things out. Most importantly O-Line and D-Line need to do a lot of work.

Need players for the O-line to be able to do some work. TT would have to seriously go against the grain for that. Maybe desparation will do that. But reality is, should never have gotten to this point.

If we get Clifton back things might get better. I haven't heard Barbre's name called nearly as much the last few weeks.

It might help to get Colledge back inside assuming he's not hurt too badly.

Maybe I'm just an eternal optimist.

[Fosco33]

love playing prevent

[pbmax]

Here comes hope again. Pass to Finley for the 2?

[Bretsky]

Great play by AROD

[MichiganPackerFan]

Gruden REALLY adds to this MNF cast

Best guy they've haad in years

totally agree

[mission]

Gruden REALLY adds to this MNF cast

Best guy they've haad in years

I agree but Jaworski gotta go!

[Partial]

Great play by AROD

Yep. It was a very good pass.

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers is tough. Nothing wrong with our passing game despite a sucky OL.

[Bretsky]

Man, do you think about running here ?

QB draw ?

[Partial]

No, I think you throw to Nelson or Driver.

[Freak Out]

Kia!!!

[Guiness]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

the defensive scheme. they are letting them move the ball.


PReeeeeeeevent

Makes the Pack's line look good, but does it matter at this point?

[PackerTimer]

Well that might officially be the game.

[Bretsky]

dagger

[Partial]

Well, onside kick and see what happens. Prepare for glory.

[Brohm]

71 flat on his ass again.

[retailguy]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

the defensive scheme. they are letting them move the ball.


PReeeeeeeevent

Makes the Pack's line look good, but does it matter at this point?

no not at all. unless you have rodgers & nelson in your fantasy league.

[Fosco33]

What was that

[Brando19]

dagger

Yeah...in the 3rd quarter.

[retailguy]

What was that

a desperation shovel pass

[Badgerinmaine]

Gruden REALLY adds to this MNF cast

Best guy they've had in years
he had the line of the night just now: "They're gonna spread 'em wide open and take their chances". :shock:
Sounds like a Garbage Can thread. :-)

[Freak Out]

How many sacks for the Vikes tonight? 7?

[Badgerinmaine]

What was that
He had to get rid of it--nothing to lose at that point.

[Bossman641]

Crosby hits some real nice onside kicks

[retailguy]

How many sacks for the Vikes tonight? 7?

yup

[Fosco33]

Just need to point to the Superbowl scoreboard

[Jimx29]

What was that

a desperation shovel pass*bites tongue about not being Favre*

[woodbuck27]

Solid night for AR. 316 yards and 2 TD`s and the Packers had their best chance with him. The rest.

UCH!!

[retailguy]

What was that

a desperation shovel pass*bites tongue about not being Favre*

LOL

[denverYooper]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

We moved the ball quite a bit all game. Turnovers killed us.

[Bossman641]

What was that

a desperation shovel pass*bites tongue about not being Favre*

*Bites tongue about you being a pathetic packer fan

[Partial]

This team stinks. Their window has officially closed imo.

[pbmax]

Hoo boy. Going to be an ugly 2 weeks on the Internets. :lol:

[MichiganPackerFan]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

We moved the ball quite a bit all game. Turnovers killed us.

And one penalty against MIN which was on a two point try,.

[Badgerinmaine]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

We moved the ball quite a bit all game. Turnovers killed us.
Penalties, too. Way too many damned penalties.

[Brohm]

Why do we always move the fucking ball at the end of the game? Why?

We moved the ball quite a bit all game. Turnovers killed us.

Not so much really. I would say the dropped TD in the endzone and the pathetic joke of a cripplefarm, I mean OL was the problem. And no pass rush whatsofucking ever, WTF Dom.

[Freak Out]

Wow......

[Badgerinmaine]

This team stinks. Their window has officially closed imo.
They're 2-2 with 12 games to play! Lot of season left. Come on, now.

[Partial]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.

[Brohm]

AND THE SUCK CONTINUES

[MichiganPackerFan]

50 yard bomb to run up the score - i haven't said this before, but that was classless by favre

[pbmax]

Well, Jared Allen won't get that kind of jump on Levi Jones at Lambeau in a few weeks. :lol:

[Badgerinmaine]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.
Disagree. Now, if we switch lines, I'll listen. :-)

[Fosco33]

Sacks by other notable QBs:

Matt Ryan - 2
Manning(s) - 2
Leftwich - 2
Brees - 4
Flacco - 5
Orton - 6
Warner - 7
Schaub, Campbell, Cutler, Romo, Russell - 8
Sanchez, Palmer, Favre - 9

[Partial]

50 yard bomb to run up the score - i haven't said this before, but that was classless by favre

Yep, but retribution is rarely a classy thing.

[Guiness]

wow. Just when you thought it had all happened!

[Bretsky]

This team stinks. Their window has officially closed imo.


what window ? Do we have aging veterans on this team ?

[Fosco33]

50 yard bomb to run up the score - i haven't said this before, but that was classless by favre

Yeah, wonder if that was designed. Hope it bites him in the ass. Or in Lambeau with a different def scheme and home noise.

[Partial]

Did they have 6 OL in on that play? It looked like they did.

[ThunderDan]

We are at 398 yards of total offense for the game.

[Sparkey]

DD one catch away from receiving record

[Freak Out]

Redemption song!

[Fosco33]

What was that... a throwaway?

[Partial]

We are at 398 yards of total offense for the game.

That is why stats do not tell the entire story. This was a horrible offensive performance through and through.

[Bossman641]

This team stinks. Their window has officially closed imo.
They're 2-2 with 12 games to play! Lot of season left. Come on, now.

I agree. It's not how you start it's how you finish. This team still has a lot they can build off. I won't even try to defend the pass D tonight, but there's no way I give up.

How many years did we start off 1-3 or 2-4 and come on at the end.

[PackerTimer]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.

I've tried to get away from this but just shut the hell up already. You are so wrong. I have no idea if you just don't see it or if you are just being an pain in the ass.

[Brohm]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.

If we switch QBs, Farve is out for the season somewhere mid second quarter of the Cinci game. The OL is a serious problem and THAT is what TT should be railed on.

[MJZiggy]

Hoo boy. Going to be an ugly 2 weeks on the Internets. :lol:

No, it'll be quiet because a lot of folks won't be here.

Why is it they put in the 3rd string LT and suddenly Rodgers has a little more breathing room?

[steve823]

Donald Lee's dropped killed us..if he caught that its a one score game and its a COMPLETELY different ball game.

Oh well, overall it was a good game, and as the announcer said tough luck with all the injuries on the O-line. It also showed us what we have to work on in the future.

[pbmax]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.
How much have you been drinking?

Time available in the pocket has been completely on Favre's side. Do you think he has the same kind of game with half the time?

[woodbuck27]

By the way the Packers ST`s looks bad overall. 2 punts for a 30 yard average is one example.

[Bretsky]

TE screen to Donald Lee ?

WTF

[retailguy]

Hoo boy. Going to be an ugly 2 weeks on the Internets. :lol:

No, it'll be quiet because a lot of folks won't be here.

Why is it they put in the 3rd string LT and suddenly Rodgers has a little more breathing room?

prevent defense. nothing to do with Lang.

[Fosco33]

Hoo boy. Going to be an ugly 2 weeks on the Internets. :lol:

No, it'll be quiet because a lot of folks won't be here.

Why is it they put in the 3rd string LT and suddenly Rodgers has a little more breathing room?

Same here - travelling and having fun.

[MichiganPackerFan]

i think next time AR is being chased he should go grade school and just drill it into the DL's nuts.

[Freak Out]

Come on baby!

[Fosco33]

Love the prevent

[Bossman641]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the OLs it's a completely different game.

There we go

[pbmax]

Did I mention today I learned why the U-71 was called the U-71 and not the Big Fat Butt-71?

[Partial]

Completely agree about the time. Rodgers hasn't had much on some plays, and on others he has had a substantial amount and held onto the ball for a drive killing sack. Favre gets rid of the ball very quick and doesn't take a lot of sacks historically.

Just my opinion.

That said, this game isn't over yet. I would get in FG position and kick it.

[PackerTimer]

i think next time AR is being chased he should go grade school and just drill it into the DL's nuts.

hahahahahahhaha. I needed that. Thanks.

[Partial]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the OLs it's a completely different game.

There we go

If you switch the OLs we dominate them. Favre has all day and is picking them apart.

[Badgerinmaine]

Someone years ago said "The only thing the prevent defense prevents is winning". 8-)

[crosbiegrad]

i think next time AR is being chased he should go grade school and just drill it into the DL's nuts.

I'd like to see that, a QB trying to hurt Allen for a nice change

[Fosco33]

I need another beer.

[Sparkey]

i think next time AR is being chased he should go grade school and just drill it into the DL's nuts.

hahahahahahhaha. I needed that. Thanks.

I would piss my pants too see that!

[woodbuck27]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.
How much have you been drinking?

Time available in the pocket has been completely on Favre's side. Do you think he has the same kind of game with half the time?

Yup. Considering the tremendous pressure AR was under all night he did fantastic. He`s a gutsy QB. He`s also about the best chance the Packers have to win games.

Also this game isn`t over yet. :D

[Jimx29]

i think next time AR is being chased he should go grade school and just drill it into the DL's nuts.

hahahahahahhaha. I needed that. Thanks.

I would piss my pants too see that!next...on sportscenter.....

[PackerTimer]

Completely agree about the time. Rodgers hasn't had much on some plays, and on others he has had a substantial amount and held onto the ball for a drive killing sack. Favre gets rid of the ball very quick and doesn't take a lot of sacks historically.

Just my opinion.

That said, this game isn't over yet. I would get in FG position and kick it.

Most of that has to do with the O-Lines, Favre has the chance to get rid of quick because he has check downs. Rodgers has all of his check downs in blocking. He has to hold the ball for people to get open.

[Brohm]

Arod showing the OL how to man up.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I need another beer.

same, but i know its going to cost me at work tomorrow

[Fosco33]

TD, onside, FG - OT - Favre pick 6

Wishfull...

[Partial]

Gruden just made a very good point. If they had kicked the field goal they'd be playing for the tie here. That said, I'm glad they went for it.

[pbmax]

Favre wanted it. Called that one. Close too. He was incredible tonight. I think if you switch the QBs it's a much closer game.
How much have you been drinking?

Time available in the pocket has been completely on Favre's side. Do you think he has the same kind of game with half the time?

Yup. Considering the tremendous pressure AR was under all night he did fantastic. He`s a gutsy QB, He`s also about the best chance the Packers have to win games.
Quite a night by your guy as well. He's a hellacious competitor.

[Fosco33]

I need another beer.

same, but i know its going to cost me at work tomorrow

I love the west coast - only 845 here. Plenty of time for beer and sobriety.

[Fosco33]

Career night for Arod. Sad.

[Freak Out]

We can do this guys.......LETS GO!

[Partial]

Very wise play by Grant. He is actually having a decent game.

[PackerTimer]

I certainly hope one thing we learned from this game is that we can use short passes to our RB's and TE's and get some big yardage out of it.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Gruden just made a very good point. If they had kicked the field goal they'd be playing for the tie here. That said, I'm glad they went for it.

same - play to win, not (sherman) play not to lose

[Partial]

Career night for Arod. Sad.

I'm shocked by that. I feel like he has put up a lot more yards before. I also don't feel like he threw for that many tonight. I'm surprised. I would have guessed 100 less yards. Hmm.

[Freak Out]

Eight fucking sacks.......

[Brohm]

I know it's irrational, but fire that MF'er tomorrow for the OL

[woodbuck27]

AR has had a career passing night with 358 yards and counting.

Whoops AR gets sacked for the 7th time. A record on MNF.

[MOBB DEEP]

aarons stats are awesome; like last year

[Gunakor]

Lang has no chance against Allen. In way too far over his head.

[PackerTimer]

Damn get up there and kick the field goal.

Took too long get the play off.

[Partial]

Good boy Rodgers. Kick. This game isn't over yet folks...

Very good drive from Rodgers. That was absolutely clutch.

[Freak Out]

Bad game management. M3/Rodgers you blow.

[ThunderDan]

Career night for Arod. Sad.

I'm shocked by that. I feel like he has put up a lot more yards before. I also don't feel like he threw for that many tonight. I'm surprised. I would have guessed 100 less yards. Hmm.

Stats don't tell everything.

[MOBB DEEP]

AR has had a career passing night with 358 yards and counting.

Whoops AR gets sacked for the 7th time. A record on MNF.

:cry:

[Bossman641]

Very wise play by Grant. He is actually having a decent game.

I agree. He looks much better catching the ball tonight. He's been running hard

[Partial]

Bad game management. M3/Rodgers you blow.

Disagree that last drive was clutch, and I'm serious. They're giving them a chance.

Donald Lee catches that damn ball and we're in overtime despite how bad we were dominated.

We still have a shot here!

[Brohm]

AR has had a career passing night with 358 yards and counting.

Whoops AR gets sacked for the 7th time. A record on MNF.

:cry:

Another fucking embarrassment this year.

[Brando19]

If they recover this....I'll never talk bad about TT again.

[crosbiegrad]

I've been impressed by Crosby's onside kicks so far so were still in with a shout

[retailguy]

Career night for Arod. Sad.

I'm shocked by that. I feel like he has put up a lot more yards before. I also don't feel like he threw for that many tonight. I'm surprised. I would have guessed 100 less yards. Hmm.

Stats don't tell everything.

that would be "gut feelings" don't tell everything Dan. The stats did tell this one.

[MichiganPackerFan]

my wife's been calling for the trainers head- sick of the injuries. I dont agree, but....

And when do we stop calling bigby a starter?

[Badgerinmaine]

Good boy Rodgers. Kick. This game isn't over yet folks...

Very good drive from Rodgers. That was absolutely clutch.
True that.

[Jimx29]

If they recover this....I'll never talk bad about TT again.i'll carry the load

[Freak Out]

They wasted way to much time after the sack.

[Brohm]

They are not evenlooking to catch it. WTF ST

[Badgerinmaine]

my wife's been calling for the trainers head- sick of the injuries. I dont agree, but....

And when do we stop calling bigby a starter?
He's more of an alternator than a starter. :-)

[Partial]

Well, that is the ball game. Valiant effort at the end. If Lee caught that TD we are going to OT despite getting dominated. That is at least something.

I give Rodgers a ton of credit for continuing to fight tonight. He got his ass destroyed and fought to the end.

[Brohm]

NOONE!

[crosbiegrad]

Somebody needs to go up and get those

[PackerTimer]

Crosby does that beautifully. Man we'll get our share of those eventually.

[Bretsky]

If they recover this....I'll never talk bad about TT again.


OK, you JINXED ALL CHANCES

[MichiganPackerFan]

Fucking A - need a least a chicago-style late dirty hit

[Brohm]

my wife's been calling for the trainers head- sick of the injuries. I dont agree, but....

And when do we stop calling bigby a starter?
He's more of an alternator than a starter. :-)

Cut his always hurt one year wonder ass tomorrow for Levi Jones.

[Gunakor]

Aaron Rodgers' stat line for the night: 26/37, 384 yards, 2 TD's plus an easy one D. Lee dropped.

And all we're gonna hear about for 2 weeks is how we shouldn't have traded Favre in favor of Rodgers.

It's already starting on ESPN.

[Freak Out]

Well....Rodgers is still learning the game I guess......

[woodbuck27]

OK. 55 seconds left and it`s another close Packers - Minnesota game. Vikings 30-23.

The Vikings HC almost handing this game back to Green Bay. :D

OK it's over and Favre has now defeated every team in the NFL.

[The Shadow]

Incredibly impressed by Aaron Rodgers.

[Partial]

Hand shakes? We'll see... I don't see it happening.

[Bretsky]

Well, that is the ball game. Valiant effort at the end. If Lee caught that TD we are going to OT despite getting dominated. That is at least something.

I give Rodgers a ton of credit for continuing to fight tonight. He got his ass destroyed and fought to the end.


Overall this was a dam well played game by Aaron Rodgers; far short of perfect but this is only his second year

[Brando19]

If they recover this....I'll never talk bad about TT again.i'll carry the load

:lol:

[pbmax]

Well, that just blows. Time to name Harlan as Vice President of Personnel - Offensive Line.

[Partial]

No handscape between Rodgers/Favre or Favre Mac?

[Freak Out]

Well, that just blows. Time to name Harlan as Vice President of Personnel - Offensive Line.

:lol:

[Brohm]

ARod played his fucking heart out under relentless, stupid pressure (thanks TT). With the shit on the line, the only place it ended up was in the OL and Lee's pants.

[crosbiegrad]

I officially hate Favre now. I'm a bad loser at the best of times but his smug little grin is too much for me tonight

[woodbuck27]

Donald Driver and Brett Favre hugging after the game. So nice.

Favre is very emotional at the end of this game. He's a classy Pro athlete.

[Partial]

Well, that is the ball game. Valiant effort at the end. If Lee caught that TD we are going to OT despite getting dominated. That is at least something.

I give Rodgers a ton of credit for continuing to fight tonight. He got his ass destroyed and fought to the end.


Overall this was a dam well played game by Aaron Rodgers; far short of perfect but this is only his second year

I wouldn't say Damn well, it wasn't great imo, but it was a valiant effort and showed a lot of heart in the end.

[Bretsky]

Well, that just blows. Time to name Harlan as Vice President of Personnel - Offensive Line.


I hope this is the end of our developmental squad; time to think about veterna help one of these years

[pbmax]

Well, that is the ball game. Valiant effort at the end. If Lee caught that TD we are going to OT despite getting dominated. That is at least something.

I give Rodgers a ton of credit for continuing to fight tonight. He got his ass destroyed and fought to the end.


Overall this was a dam well played game by Aaron Rodgers; far short of perfect but this is only his second year
What did Ron Wolf say? He would never put stumblebums in front of Favre?

No one remembers that he struggled to find guards and a new LT, but he eventually got it right in spades.

Thompson needs to get it done now.

[Brohm]

Farve giving ARof props. Kudos BF.

[retailguy]

Well, that just blows. Time to name Harlan as Vice President of Personnel - Offensive Line.

If Levi Jones isn't here tomorrow, we're all fuckin nuts...

[woodbuck27]

Well, that is the ball game. Valiant effort at the end. If Lee caught that TD we are going to OT despite getting dominated. That is at least something.

I give Rodgers a ton of credit for continuing to fight tonight. He got his ass destroyed and fought to the end.


Overall this was a dam well played game by Aaron Rodgers; far short of perfect but this is only his second year

I wouldn't say Damn well, it wasn't great imo, but it was a valiant effort and showed a lot of heart in the end.

ARod played fantastic.

[Jimx29]

Brett class act all the way post game

[Badgerinmaine]

No handscape between Rodgers/Favre or Favre Mac?
There was a quick handshake between Favre and Rodgers. I am still, let's say displeased with Favre, but the warm reception he got from a lot of his old mates says a lot for him.

[Fosco33]

Ok, ESPN - I need a stat here.


Ogunleye - 2 sacks
Odom - 5 sacks
Little - 2 sacks
Allen - 4.5 sacks

Only 5 people have ever had 5.5 or more sacks in a game.

We are making DEs season - every game.

[Freak Out]

How many sacks did that fuck Allen end up with? Six or so...? :lol:

[retailguy]

with a good OL, we might have won this game.

[pbmax]

Well, that just blows. Time to name Harlan as Vice President of Personnel - Offensive Line.

If Levi Jones isn't here tomorrow, we're all fuckin nuts...
You ain't whistling Dixie, unless Colledge is visited by the Ghost of Reggie's Hamstring tonight. Maybe even then. :lol: