SnakeLH2006
11-12-2009, 01:58 AM
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Monday, November 9, 2009
Do the Packers have any Shot at Cowher?
As you can tell by the title, I have already assumed the coaching staff will be axed. In reality, we are probably stuck with this head coach for at least one full year, likely two before the Packers actually do something about it.
I have been complaining about the coaching since the Cincinnati game and the same problems keep coming up, bad special teams, penalties, sacks, ugh. If those problems are not enough to get a coach fired, then the fact it looks like the players have given up on him should factor in. On the early touchdown to Jones it looked like McCarthy was getting on the WRs for the excessive celebration penalty(which was later picked up) it looked like the receivers were completely ignoring him. The special teams problems are so widespread it is shocking.
They give up big kick returns.
They give up a blocked punt for a TD.
To start the second half, the special teams is the reason the Packers start inside the 10.
That second half kickoff play signifies my issue with what is going on. How can a team come out to start the second half and look so uninterested? This team thinks they are much better than they are and has lost the ability to grind out wins.
I do not think there is a very great chance of the Packers getting Bill Cowher, but at this point that is what they need. Us Packer fans have had enough of the West Coast style in Green Bay. We need a physical style, a coach committed to setting the tone with a physical running game. That running game was the one thing Sherman did have, if he never would have been given the GM title, who knows, but the Packers were a physical running team.
Rumors get started out of thin air, then build momentum, and all of a sudden it is reported on ESPN "Packers looking at Cowher". Like I said, I have little confidence that the Packers will get Cowher, but something needs to happen. And if Cowher were brought in, Capers could be retained as DC since they worked together in Pittsburgh. The fact that the DC would not also have to be bought out could lighten the overall amount of money needed to clean house. McCarthy is so lost at this point that I do not think it is salvageable. Can the Packers get to 7 wins?
Thompson Too
To go along with McCarthy, I think it is best for the Packers to completely clean house. To just get rid of anything associated with the Brett Favre breakup. I don't even care who is right or wrong at this point, this has split a fan base that continues to bitch back and forth. We need an exorcism of the entire mess that happened with Favre.
Target a coach, whether it is Cowher, Shanahan, or even Fischer if he becomes available. Work with them to also get a GM in place. Do not just go get a GM and hope he can get a coach. The Packers need an established coach and at this point to get one that coach will want some say as to who he will be working with. I am OK with that as long as it is that GM in charge of personnel, while Cowher coaches. Cowher got to a super bowl with Neil Odonnel and to AFC Championships with Kordell Stewart. He is my dream choice.
Packer Best Case Scenario for Rest of Season
Here is my best case scenario for the rest of the season. Packers beat the Cowboys, but Rodgers suffers a non serious season ending injury. Something like a bad, high ankle sprain. To go ever further, have Rodgers injury occur on a game winning TD pass. Then he gets shelved for the year because if Rodger actually endures the 70 sacks he is on pace for, he will be shell-shocked and virtually done as an effective QB.
This way, Rodgers could go out on a high note with confidence restored. The team would also display how poor they were setup at the OLine and backup QB spots. That is bad GMing, and if Rodgers did get hurt I think the rumblings would get loud enough from a national perspective that the Packers would have to do something.
Look, I hate this. It was just a couple of years ago that we had to go through this with Sherman. Once Sherman became GM and Head Coach, it signified his end was not too far off. It is too hard to do both and once Thompson was hired as GM, there was no way Sherman was setup to continue success as a head coach. I really think it is best to clean house, put the Favre mess behind our entire fan base, and find a coach that will instill a physical identity.
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Personally, I think Cowher is real possibility. He loves his midwestern/east coast roots.....always raves on Green Bay as an organization/city and the players (Arod and defense). If he was to re-up to coaching...this would be the place, no?
Snake used to be a big MM fan and TT....but they are tied at the hip. Several seasons (great players) and little results (one Favre led 13-3 season) does not a regime make.
Unless we tear off a 10-6 season (aka 6-2 to finish...unlikely) MM and Ted are gone. The Green Bay Packers are meant to win.
As much as peeps hated Shermy....he still won...in spades. Shitty GM, but a great coach compared to Mike. MM hasn't done shit and Snake's been following all the Packer shows lately and esp. MM's own show and he looks fatter and less enthusiastic each week. Now Larry McCarrarren (and fans with questions) are killing him on his own show about penalties/unpreparedness/sacks weekly. He's done and TT is too (joined at the hip) after this year with all that "talent" if we don't just do something stellar soon. He's in over his head and sad to see another recent season in the dumps, or so it seems lately.
Cowher would be a great fit in Green Bay. He'd love to jump onto a team with talent/a bright young QB/with prestige and tradition. GB sounds really right for him after the Steelers. Rumors are going on that he's talked to peeps inside his circle about the GB job in 2010 if it comes to fruition.
Thoughts? MM has little to offer anymore as he's jumped the shark as this team just keeps regressing lately. MM looks sad, tired, and looking like he just doesn't care anymore. MM lost this team.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1605/29422749.jpg
Monday, November 9, 2009
Do the Packers have any Shot at Cowher?
As you can tell by the title, I have already assumed the coaching staff will be axed. In reality, we are probably stuck with this head coach for at least one full year, likely two before the Packers actually do something about it.
I have been complaining about the coaching since the Cincinnati game and the same problems keep coming up, bad special teams, penalties, sacks, ugh. If those problems are not enough to get a coach fired, then the fact it looks like the players have given up on him should factor in. On the early touchdown to Jones it looked like McCarthy was getting on the WRs for the excessive celebration penalty(which was later picked up) it looked like the receivers were completely ignoring him. The special teams problems are so widespread it is shocking.
They give up big kick returns.
They give up a blocked punt for a TD.
To start the second half, the special teams is the reason the Packers start inside the 10.
That second half kickoff play signifies my issue with what is going on. How can a team come out to start the second half and look so uninterested? This team thinks they are much better than they are and has lost the ability to grind out wins.
I do not think there is a very great chance of the Packers getting Bill Cowher, but at this point that is what they need. Us Packer fans have had enough of the West Coast style in Green Bay. We need a physical style, a coach committed to setting the tone with a physical running game. That running game was the one thing Sherman did have, if he never would have been given the GM title, who knows, but the Packers were a physical running team.
Rumors get started out of thin air, then build momentum, and all of a sudden it is reported on ESPN "Packers looking at Cowher". Like I said, I have little confidence that the Packers will get Cowher, but something needs to happen. And if Cowher were brought in, Capers could be retained as DC since they worked together in Pittsburgh. The fact that the DC would not also have to be bought out could lighten the overall amount of money needed to clean house. McCarthy is so lost at this point that I do not think it is salvageable. Can the Packers get to 7 wins?
Thompson Too
To go along with McCarthy, I think it is best for the Packers to completely clean house. To just get rid of anything associated with the Brett Favre breakup. I don't even care who is right or wrong at this point, this has split a fan base that continues to bitch back and forth. We need an exorcism of the entire mess that happened with Favre.
Target a coach, whether it is Cowher, Shanahan, or even Fischer if he becomes available. Work with them to also get a GM in place. Do not just go get a GM and hope he can get a coach. The Packers need an established coach and at this point to get one that coach will want some say as to who he will be working with. I am OK with that as long as it is that GM in charge of personnel, while Cowher coaches. Cowher got to a super bowl with Neil Odonnel and to AFC Championships with Kordell Stewart. He is my dream choice.
Packer Best Case Scenario for Rest of Season
Here is my best case scenario for the rest of the season. Packers beat the Cowboys, but Rodgers suffers a non serious season ending injury. Something like a bad, high ankle sprain. To go ever further, have Rodgers injury occur on a game winning TD pass. Then he gets shelved for the year because if Rodger actually endures the 70 sacks he is on pace for, he will be shell-shocked and virtually done as an effective QB.
This way, Rodgers could go out on a high note with confidence restored. The team would also display how poor they were setup at the OLine and backup QB spots. That is bad GMing, and if Rodgers did get hurt I think the rumblings would get loud enough from a national perspective that the Packers would have to do something.
Look, I hate this. It was just a couple of years ago that we had to go through this with Sherman. Once Sherman became GM and Head Coach, it signified his end was not too far off. It is too hard to do both and once Thompson was hired as GM, there was no way Sherman was setup to continue success as a head coach. I really think it is best to clean house, put the Favre mess behind our entire fan base, and find a coach that will instill a physical identity.
==========================
Personally, I think Cowher is real possibility. He loves his midwestern/east coast roots.....always raves on Green Bay as an organization/city and the players (Arod and defense). If he was to re-up to coaching...this would be the place, no?
Snake used to be a big MM fan and TT....but they are tied at the hip. Several seasons (great players) and little results (one Favre led 13-3 season) does not a regime make.
Unless we tear off a 10-6 season (aka 6-2 to finish...unlikely) MM and Ted are gone. The Green Bay Packers are meant to win.
As much as peeps hated Shermy....he still won...in spades. Shitty GM, but a great coach compared to Mike. MM hasn't done shit and Snake's been following all the Packer shows lately and esp. MM's own show and he looks fatter and less enthusiastic each week. Now Larry McCarrarren (and fans with questions) are killing him on his own show about penalties/unpreparedness/sacks weekly. He's done and TT is too (joined at the hip) after this year with all that "talent" if we don't just do something stellar soon. He's in over his head and sad to see another recent season in the dumps, or so it seems lately.
Cowher would be a great fit in Green Bay. He'd love to jump onto a team with talent/a bright young QB/with prestige and tradition. GB sounds really right for him after the Steelers. Rumors are going on that he's talked to peeps inside his circle about the GB job in 2010 if it comes to fruition.
Thoughts? MM has little to offer anymore as he's jumped the shark as this team just keeps regressing lately. MM looks sad, tired, and looking like he just doesn't care anymore. MM lost this team.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1605/29422749.jpg