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Maxie the Taxi
11-25-2009, 09:10 AM
Just sour grapes or is there something to it?

I've often wondered if the penalty is stiff enough to prevent this kind of thing. I think the league says the injured player has to sitout the next play. With all the substitutions nowadays, that's not a very big deal.

And it is an effective way to slow down an opponent on a roll.

Do the Packers play much no huddle (other than two-minute drill)?


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/11/lions_jim_schwartz_says_browns.html

KYPack
11-25-2009, 09:14 AM
Guess Belichik forgot to teach Eric that trick, so he got out-coached again, eh?

red
11-25-2009, 09:25 AM
i think anything that comes out of manginas mouth at this point has to be considered a joke

what a hypocrite

pbmax
11-25-2009, 09:42 AM
The Packers have no huddled in the 4 minute offense at the end of a couple of halves and I think it was one look in the gameplan against the Vikes in one game I think. But its not featured much.

channtheman
11-25-2009, 11:06 AM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."

Cheesehead Craig
11-25-2009, 11:29 AM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."
Someone higher up will look him the face alright. Except the words "you're fired" are going to be coming out of his lips.

bobblehead
11-25-2009, 11:37 AM
He is right...they did....so what. Teams have been faking injuries to stall the no huddle since chuck whatshisname did it to the bills back in the day. Difference is chuck was blatant about it having the same 2 players fake the injury back and forth or something ridiculous like that.

This is a major reason the no huddle isn't used too much, every team has a guy that is going to come out in passing situations that can flop around for a bit then come back later. Its one of those tough situations that you can't govern and just have to let play out....sort of like the auto industry..........

KYPack
11-25-2009, 12:09 PM
Chuck Knox.

Coaching the Seahawks.

He did it against both Buffalo and the Bengals when those teams pioneered no huddle. He used to do it openly and more or less laugh about it.

Eric is just whining in his last NFL HC job.

Unless Al Davis hires his foolish ass.

mraynrand
11-25-2009, 12:11 PM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."

That's like trying to trick the other team by not telling them whether Joe Blauchwitz or Fred Grabonski is going to be cutting the grass before the game.

Merlin
11-25-2009, 12:17 PM
Whatever the case is, the final score is what matters. Mangini has a proven track record of being a bad coach. Mangini can cry foul all day long, but one thing ir for sure, no one will ever accuse him of cheating, not with his record.

I had the opportunity to see the World Cup playoff between France and Ireland. You want to talk about faking injury? Bad officiating? The NFL doesn't hold a candle to FIFA.

Fosco33
11-25-2009, 12:39 PM
Fake injuries in soccer (world cup) were so annoying. At least in the NFL - the clock stops. Sure, they 'addon' time - but it's not the same.

It's a cheap move that bad teams employ.

KYPack
11-25-2009, 12:48 PM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."

That's like trying to trick the other team by not telling them whether Joe Blauchwitz or Fred Grabonski is going to be cutting the grass before the game.

I believe our guy is named Mike Wood, but you better check with Coach McCarthy first to make sure.

Fritz
11-25-2009, 12:50 PM
Eric Man-weenie - waaahaaaa!! It's pretty rare, I think, for a head coach to fail in his first head coaching gig and then get hired again somewhere else. It worked for Belichek, and if Pete Carroll wanted a second shot in the NFL he could have one, but I'm not sure how many first-time-head-coaches-who-fail get a second shot. Maybe Dom Capers, but he had two expansion franchises.

In short, Man-Weenie is failing at stop #2, and that will be his last head coaching gig - he's not Mad Al's type, I don't think. Al seems to like virgins.

Maye Man-weenie can be the next Pete Carroll....or the next Charlie Weiss.

mraynrand
11-25-2009, 12:51 PM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."

That's like trying to trick the other team by not telling them whether Joe Blauchwitz or Fred Grabonski is going to be cutting the grass before the game.

I believe our guy is named Mike Wood, but you better check with Coach McCarthy first to make sure.

Mike Wood liked to angle cut the field, while the current guy cuts back and forth the long direction. McCarthy prefers side to side. Don't lay an egg cutting that field Mr. Wood!

Fritz
11-25-2009, 01:01 PM
You're giving away State secrets there, buddy. Clam up.

KYPack
11-25-2009, 01:05 PM
Eric Man-weenie - waaahaaaa!! It's pretty rare, I think, for a head coach to fail in his first head coaching gig and then get hired again somewhere else. It worked for Belichek, and if Pete Carroll wanted a second shot in the NFL he could have one, but I'm not sure how many first-time-head-coaches-who-fail get a second shot. Maybe Dom Capers, but he had two expansion franchises.

In short, Man-Weenie is failing at stop #2, and that will be his last head coaching gig - he's not Mad Al's type, I don't think. Al seems to like virgins.

Maye Man-weenie can be the next Pete Carroll....or the next Charlie Weiss.

Pete Carroll got two shots. Jets/Pats

He might get a third one someday, too.

Fritz
11-25-2009, 01:07 PM
He'd be nutz to do that.

Guiness
11-25-2009, 02:39 PM
I wonder if Steve Spurrier will get another go-around if he wants it?

Anyone remember the Man-Genius tag that was ever so briefly applied to him? I bet the ass-kissing beat writer who coined that one is hoping no one remembers it was him!

Lurker64
11-25-2009, 02:53 PM
I'm pretty sure this happens, and it probably happened in the Lions-Browns game, but isn't this the sort of thing that a coach should never say? You never want to accuse anybody in football of faking an injury for competitive advantage, because football is a very violent sport and major injuries happen due to seemingly minor hits and twists.

So while Mangini is probably right, you don't have to say everything you're right about and you probably shouldn't; also you might need to pull the same trick yourself sometime.

red
11-25-2009, 03:34 PM
Mangini needs to stfu. The guy who didn't want reveal whether he was starting Quinn or Anderson to trick the opposing team is complaining about something so trivial? Seriously, someone higher up should just look him in the face and say "shut the fuck up idiot."

That's like trying to trick the other team by not telling them whether Joe Blauchwitz or Fred Grabonski is going to be cutting the grass before the game.

I believe our guy is named Mike Wood, but you better check with Coach McCarthy first to make sure.

thats the only thing i can't stand about professional soccer. the dives, and the overacting. a guy will get tripped, and he'll try and make it look like his leg just snapped in 4 places and one of the parts got lodged sideways in his ass

Fritz
11-25-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm with ya on that. It annoys me to no end. It's the lamest thing in the world.

Waaaha-haa! I'm hurt! Boo-hoo! They all take acting lessons in the offseason, I think.

It's a damn tough sport, but they do the sport a disservice with all that play acting.

red
11-25-2009, 07:50 PM
I'm with ya on that. It annoys me to no end. It's the lamest thing in the world.

Waaaha-haa! I'm hurt! Boo-hoo! They all take acting lessons in the offseason, I think.

It's a damn tough sport, but they do the sport a disservice with all that play acting.

and whats with the magic spray?

guy can be near death, give him a little spray, and he's up and running within 3 seconds

SnakeLH2006
11-26-2009, 01:41 AM
Viagra is in a spray bottle now?