Tiger's poor driving continues

[HowardRoark]

2:25 am?? Maybe he was heading to Dubai trying to get his money out of his floundering development.


Police chief: Woods' wife helped after accident

By DOUG FERGUSON, AP Golf Writer Doug Ferguson, Ap Golf Writer

Tiger Woods was injured in a car accident early Friday outside his Florida mansion, and a local police chief said his wife used a golf club to smash out the back window and help get the world's No. 1 golfer out of the SUV.

Woods was treated and released from a hospital in good condition, his spokesman said. The Florida Highway Patrol said Woods' vehicle hit a fire hydrant and a tree in his neighbor's yard as he pulled out of his driveway at 2:25 a.m.

Windermere police chief Daniel Saylor told The Associated Press that officers found the 33-year-old PGA star laying in the street with his wife, Elin, hovering over him.

She told officers she was in the house when she heard the accident and "came out and broke the back window with a golf club."

Woods had lacerations to his upper and lower lips, and he had blood in his mouth, Saylor said.

The chief said Woods was in and out of consciousness when his two officers arrived. He said the officers held Woods to the ground and "when he woke up, he tried to get up and lost consciousness."

He said officers treated Woods for 10 minutes until an ambulance arrived.

The Florida Highway Patrol said Woods was alone in his 2009 Cadillac when he pulled out of his driveway from his mansion at Isleworth, a gated waterfront community just outside Orlando.

The patrol reported Woods' injuries as serious, although Woods spokesman Glenn Greenspan issued a statement that Woods was treated and released.

The patrol said alcohol was not involved, although the accident remains under investigation and charges could be filed.

Left unanswered was where Woods was going at that hour. Greenspan and agent Mark Steinberg said there would be no comment beyond the short statement of the accident on Woods' Web site.

Woods, coming off a two-week trip to China and Australia earlier this month, is host of the Chevron World Challenge in Thousand Oaks, Calif., which starts Thursday. He is scheduled to have his press conference Tuesday afternoon at Sherwood Country Club. Steinberg said he did not know if Woods planned to play next week.

The accident report was not released until nearly 12 hours after Woods was injured. Patrol spokesman Kim Montes said the accident did not meet the criteria of a serious crash, and the FHP only put out a press release because of inquiries from local media.

Montes said the patrol reports injuries as serious if they require more than minor medical attention.

Air bags in the SUV did not deploy.

Investigators still have not had a chance to speak to Woods, but when they do, "we will ask him everything," Montes said. "We just haven't had a chance to do so because he was being medically treated."

Montes said charges could be filed if there was a clear traffic violation, although troopers still do not know what caused Woods' SUV to hit the hydrant and the tree.

Woods' $2.4 million home is part of an exclusive subdivision near Orlando, a community set on an Arnold Palmer-designed golf course and a chain of small lakes. The neighborhood, which is fortified with high brick walls and has its own security force, is home to CEOs and other sports stars such as the NBA's Shaquille O'Neal.

The Orlando Sentinel reported that an orange and white barricade sat on top of a hole in front of Woods' home. About 10 feet away, there was a tire track near an oak tree in his neighbor's yard. The tree had a few scuff marks but was largely unscathed.

Woods, who has won 82 times around the world and 14 majors, attended the Stanford-Cal football game last Saturday, where he tossed the coin at the start of the game and was inducted into Stanford's sports Hall of Fame at halftime.

He won six times this year after missing eight months recovering from reconstructive surgery on his left knee. Even though he failed to win a major, Woods said he considered this a successful year because he did not know how his knee would respond.

[HowardRoark]

ahhh, that explains it.

http://postmoderngentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rachel-uchitel.jpg

[Bossman641]

Besides the shadiness of him driving off by himself at 2:30, why would Elin smash up the back window with a club?

If I had to guess, I'd say they had a fight and she chased him out of the house with a club, she busted up the window, startling him and causing him to crash.

[mraynrand]

ahhh, that explains it.

http://postmoderngentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rachel-uchitel.jpg

?
http://www.taylorbrooks.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lawrence-office-space.jpg

[HowardRoark]

ahhh, that explains it.

http://postmoderngentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rachel-uchitel.jpg

?
http://www.taylorbrooks.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lawrence-office-space.jpg

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=52492

[red]

ahhh, that explains it.

http://postmoderngentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rachel-uchitel.jpg

she looks sort of like a dude in drag to me

elin is much hotter, even with a golf club

[mraynrand]

What a tangled web we weave...

[sheepshead]

Tiger is now Cheetah

[sheepshead]

Just got the Woods' Christmas Card:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/heymike0308/image001.jpg

[sheepshead]

"I heard he asked his wife on Thanksgiving if he could have another piece of white meat and all hell broke loose"

I'm here all week.

[Freak Out]

I hear on the radio today (ESPN) that at least three women have come forward to say that they had an affair or "encounters" with Tiger recently.....if true it just goes to show once again that money and power don't equate to brains. Dude can afford anything in the world so if you want to keep your family and get some strange go to a professional and have at it. There are absolutely lovely and discrete professional courtesans (modern) out there that can help you out.

[Little Whiskey]

I hear on the radio today (ESPN) that at least three women have come forward to say that they had an affair or "encounters" with Tiger recently.....if true it just goes to show once again that money and power don't equate to brains. Dude can afford anything in the world so if you want to keep your family and get some strange go to a professional and have at it. There are absolutely lovely and discrete professional courtesans (modern) out there that can help you out.

wasn't it charlie sheen who said, i don't pay them to come over, i pay them to leave.

[HowardRoark]

In what furnace was thy brain?

[mraynrand]

I had an affair with tiger.

http://muttnews.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/tiger.jpg

[mraynrand]

I hear on the radio today (ESPN) that at least three women have come forward to say that they had an affair or "encounters" with Tiger recently.....if true it just goes to show once again that money and power don't equate to brains. Dude can afford anything in the world so if you want to keep your family and get some strange go to a professional and have at it. There are absolutely lovely and discrete professional courtesans (modern) out there that can help you out.

INDEED!

http://yeeeah.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/spitzer_hooker_1.jpg

[Freak Out]

:)

http://deadspin.com/5416948/chaos-in-tigerland-a-deadspin-investigation-into-the-sexual-habits-of-pro-athletes?skyline=true&s=x

[Freak Out]

Mindy Lawton? You have to be fucking kidding me......epic fail.

[RashanGary]

This is really too bad. I know what he did hurt his wife a whole hell of a lot. It's not good at all. Hell, he deserves a lot of what comes his way. He's paying his price.

It's one thing when a guy can do anything and keeps getting idolized and worshiped. Tiger has taken his beating and now it's just getting nasty. I'll bet he feels pretty horrible about what he's done. Quitting golf to work things out with his wife, that's shows he really cares.

Some people can go through life and think every path out just so, and never make a huge mistake. Others are driven differently and maybe aren't as smart. They screw up and don't realize how bad they screwed up until it's done.

I feel sorry for his wife, she really didn't deserve this. I feel less sorry for Tiger, but still sorry for him too. What he just did, he hurt himself too, and that shows real weakness on his part. Real human weakness that doesn't just hurt others, but himself too.

If Tiger patches it up with his wife and makes right (we all know a certain QB who was rumored to be banging his married ass around Green Bay for years and eventually made it right), anyway, I'll root for him because of how bad people have gotten on him. He deserves his wifes anger, disappointment and if she decides to leave, the monetary and emotional loss he'll suffer, but he doesn't deserve to be hated for being weak. The public attack on Tiger has just been ruthless and horrible in my opinion.

[sheepshead]

I'm hearing his dad was a tail hound right up till he died. I guess we know where he got it from.

[Bossman641]

This is really too bad. I know what he did hurt his wife a whole hell of a lot. It's not good at all. Hell, he deserves a lot of what comes his way. He's paying his price.

It's one thing when a guy can do anything and keeps getting idolized and worshiped. Tiger has taken his beating and now it's just getting nasty. I'll bet he feels pretty horrible about what he's done. Quitting golf to work things out with his wife, that's shows he really cares.
I disagree. I never thought he was sincere at all regarding the quitting golf to work things out situation. It was all for his image.

[Iron Mike]

Twas the night of Thanksgiving and out of the house

Tiger Woods came a flyin', chased by his spouse.

She wielded a nine iron and wasn't too merry,

Cause a bimbo's phone number was in his Blackberry.

He'd been cheatin' on Elin, and the story progressed.

Woman after woman stepped up and confessed.

He'd been cheatin' with Holly, and Jaimee, and Cori,

With Joselyn, and Kalika. The world had the story.

From the top of the Tour to the basement of blues,

Tiger's sad sordid tale was all over the news.

With hostesses, waitresses, he had lots of sex,

When not in their pants, he was sendin' them texts.

Despite all his cryin' and beggin' and pleadin',

Tiger's wife went investin' -- a new home in Sweden.

And I heard her exclaim from her white Escalade,

"If you're gettin' had then I'm gettin' paid."

She's not pouting, in fact, she is of jolly good cheer,

Her prenup made Christmas come early this year.

[MJZiggy]

Love. It.

[HowardRoark]

I hear on the radio today (ESPN) that at least three women have come forward to say that they had an affair or "encounters" with Tiger recently.....if true it just goes to show once again that money and power don't equate to brains. Dude can afford anything in the world so if you want to keep your family and get some strange go to a professional and have at it. There are absolutely lovely and discrete professional courtesans (modern) out there that can help you out.

wasn't it charlie sheen who said, i don't pay them to come over, i pay them to leave.

Looks like he didn't pay her enough.....


Charlie Sheen arrested in domestic violence case in Aspen, Colo.
Associated Press

Updated: 12/25/2009 10:43:24 PM CST

(AP)ASPEN, Colo. — Charlie Sheen spent the better part of Christmas Day in a Colorado jail cell after being arrested on domestic violence allegations.

The 44-year-old actor was taken into custody Friday morning by officers responding to a 911 call from a house in this ski resort town about 200 miles west of Denver.

[Scott Campbell]

That boy ain't right in the head.

[Kiwon]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2010/01/500x_tigerballs.jpg

[Kiwon]

It must be hell to be Tiger Woods right now.

All his women can come out and say whatever to make a buck off his name. Does he deny their charges? Does he confirm the facts and dispute the distortions? Either way, this scandal isn't going away......

I wonder how much of his former image can ever be recovered.

Now one of his former porn girlfriends says she was pregnant twice....without his knowledge...at the same time his wife was pregnant.

This porn "star" feels bad for the wife saying, ""I feel bad for [Elin]. "She didn't deserve this, and she didn't deserve being humiliated." ...and then she gives paid interviews detailing their relationship.

Yeah, it must be hell to be Tiger Woods...
.................................................. ..............................

Mistress was 'preggers twice' by Tiger

Unfortunately for Tiger, his shots don't miss.

The golf star knocked up his porn-star gal pal twice -- both times when his wife, too, was pregnant, according to a bombshell interview.

Joslyn James -- star of such adult classics as "Big Breasted Nurses" and "My Sex Teacher #12" -- said her lengthy and steamy affair with Tiger Woods always involved unprotected sex.

Using protection "was never talked about," the 34DD actress told "Inside Edition" in an interview that airs tonight. "It was never protected."

James, 32, who carried on a torrid affair with Woods from 2006 to 2009, said she miscarried in her first pregnancy at about the same time Tiger's wife, Elin Nordegren, gave birth to daughter Sam Alexis on June 18, 2007.

James said she aborted her next pregnancy close to the Feb. 8, 2009, birth of Woods' son, Charlie Axel.

Woods was never told about either pregnancy, the skin-flick stunner said.

"I just didn't want to ruin anything," James said.

The buxom adult film star said she was close to breaking the news to Tiger, 34, but chickened out just before suffering the miscarriage.

"Actually, the day I was going to tell him, I had a miscarriage," she said. "After I lost the baby I didn't want to talk about it."

The miscarriage actually fueled her desire to be with Woods, the porn star claimed, explaining, "I got more emotionally attached."

Despite her more-than-passing role in Woods' marital debacle, James said she regrets what the scandal has done to Nordegren.

"I feel bad for [Elin]," she said. "She didn't deserve this, and she didn't deserve being humiliated."

James said she believes that the scorned wife never had a clue that her hubby was playing around with a porn actress.

"Not to my knowledge. But she had two kids at home, and she was stressed out," James said.

Woods and his wife are said to be living apart in the same Orlando-area neighborhood so he can visit with their children.

The golf icon has barely been seen in public since crashing his SUV outside their Windermere, Fla., mansion on Thanksgiving night after an explosive argument with Nordegren, who had reportedly just learned of his many affairs.

Following the bizarre incident, a string of bimbos came forward with their own tales of steamy, years-long affairs with the golfer.

The disgraced superstar attended a sex-rehab clinic in Hattiesberg, Miss., in a bid to save his broken marriage.

Now back in Orlando, Woods took the kids on Saturday evening so Nordegren could go to a girls'-night-out dinner party.

She was photographed at dinner in the restaurant of The Dolphin hotel in Orlando.

As in recent weeks, she wasn't wearing her wedding ring.

Nordegren was celebrating a friend's birthday, and Woods' absence was never an issue, sources said.

"It wasn't a case of Tiger not wanting to go out -- it was Elin telling him he wasn't invited," a source close to the couple told RadarOnline.com.

"She hasn't let him near her" since his philandering made international news, the source added.

Particularly infuriating to Nordegren were texts Tiger reportedly sent to Mistress No. 1, Rachel Uchitel, in which he declared his love for her.

Uchitel proved to be Woods' undoing. She and Woods were the subject of a National Enquirer story that was set to be published Thanksgiving week.

When Nordegren discovered incriminating text messages between the pair on Thanksgiving night, she confirmed her worst fears in a phone call to Uchitel.

Woods, the world's greatest golfer, is taking an indefinite leave from the sport and hasn't hinted when he'll return.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/preggers_Y2MF1oRhpMSbegILoi4iqJ#ixzz0fgTCtcnR

[Kiwon]

Tiger just held a very good press event.

He was contrite and said all the right things. I think he helped himself enormously in terms of his public image.

I'm rooting for the guy.

[swede]

Tiger just held a very good press event.

He was contrite and said all the right things. I think he helped himself enormously in terms of his public image.

I'm rooting for the guy.

I am too.

I'm rooting for him to shoot 100+ in each of his next two rounds, lose his tour exemption, and then get Bobbitted by the next crazy cocktail waitress that jumps in the back of his Buick.

[pbmax]

Anyone care to comment on whether they heard or saw the statement?

I heard most of it on the radio and while he was obviously reading, it seemed to be something he put down on paper himself and then read. Although, I am sure his PR folks and agents made sure he mentioned the foundation, etc. It sounded sincere to my ears and I am usually a flat cynic when it comes to public appeals for forgiveness.

But I have talked to several people (and read some online commentary from folks) who watched the event and their impressions were much less favorable.

Anyone see it and come away impressed? Or did it fall flat?

[Patler]

Anyone care to comment on whether they heard or saw the statement?

I heard most of it on the radio and while he was obviously reading, it seemed to be something he put down on paper himself and then read. Although, I am sure his PR folks and agents made sure he mentioned the foundation, etc. It sounded sincere to my ears and I am usually a flat cynic when it comes to public appeals for forgiveness.

But I have talked to several people (and read some online commentary from folks) who watched the event and their impressions were much less favorable.

Anyone see it and come away impressed? Or did it fall flat?

I watched a replay of it. It was obviously prepared and rehearsed, but I also think it was sincere. The man screwed up on many levels, and he accepted complete responsibility for it. It was a more thorough statement than I thought it might be.

Some will not be satisfied unless he guts himself on live television. Yes, he had the world by the tail and screwed it up, but I can still extend compassion to him if he is truly trying to change, and I believe that he is.

In my opinion, right now he owes us nothing. His focus needs to be on his family and repairing his personal life, including his relationships with those in his immediate circle who have trusted him. There will be time to address the rest of us later.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I could only stand to watch 5 seconds of the Tiger Woods show, but here's my take:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/tiger_woodss_disgusting_apolog.html

Why did David Letterman give a long, heartfelt, on-the-air apology to us and his staff? Why do we need to know how hard he is going to work to repair his marriage?
Same answers apply to Tiger.

[Patler]

I could only stand to watch 5 seconds of the Tiger Woods show, but here's my take:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/tiger_woodss_disgusting_apolog.html

Why did David Letterman give a long, heartfelt, on-the-air apology to us and his staff? Why do we need to know how hard he is going to work to repair his marriage?
Same answers apply to Tiger.

What did Letterman do that Woods did not?
or
What did Woods do that Letterman did not?

There is a large portion of sports fandom that likes nothing more than to see the king toppled. For them, nothing that Woods will ever do will be enough for them.

Woods is a worldwide phenomenon. Very few really give a crap about Letterman, one way or the other. Not that big of a name.

Just my opinions.

[Zool]

I guess I could care less what the man does in his personal life and why people give 2 shits what these guys do at home baffles me.

[Patler]

I guess I could care less what the man does in his personal life and why people give 2 shits what these guys do at home baffles me.

Exactly. I have never been able to understand the emotional or personal attachment people develop toward someone they have never met. Athletes and entertainers.

[Kiwon]

I guess I could care less what the man does in his personal life and why people give 2 shits what these guys do at home baffles me.

Exactly. I have never been able to understand the emotional or personal attachment people develop toward someone they have never met. Athletes and entertainers.

That's surprising given that star athletes and entertainers make more money through endorsements then they do through their professions. So when your favorite player endorses a certain product that doesn't make that product just a little more appealing to you? If not, then I'd say you are decidedly in the marketing minority.

There's reasons why 20 years ago you could go to almost any corner of the globe and find a Michael Jordan / Nike poster. Celebrity advertising works.

[Patler]

I guess I could care less what the man does in his personal life and why people give 2 shits what these guys do at home baffles me.

Exactly. I have never been able to understand the emotional or personal attachment people develop toward someone they have never met. Athletes and entertainers.

That's surprising given that star athletes and entertainers make more money through endorsements then they do through their professions. So when your favorite player endorses a certain product that doesn't make that product just a little more appealing to you? If not, then I'd say you are decidedly in the marketing minority.

There's reasons why 20 years ago you could go to almost any corner of the globe and find a Michael Jordan / Nike poster. Celebrity advertising works.

I know it works, but for the life of me, it makes no sense. Why would shoes fit me better just because MJ endorsed them? Who is a spokesman for a product has no effect on my buying decision. At best, it makes me aware of the product so I consider it, but that is all.

In fact, I am just the opposite. I know celebrities endorse things not because they approve of them, but because the company paid the most. I tend to look for lesser-known, but perhaps better products, which often are less expensive, too.

[Kiwon]

I guess I could care less what the man does in his personal life and why people give 2 shits what these guys do at home baffles me.

Exactly. I have never been able to understand the emotional or personal attachment people develop toward someone they have never met. Athletes and entertainers.

That's surprising given that star athletes and entertainers make more money through endorsements then they do through their professions. So when your favorite player endorses a certain product that doesn't make that product just a little more appealing to you? If not, then I'd say you are decidedly in the marketing minority.

There's reasons why 20 years ago you could go to almost any corner of the globe and find a Michael Jordan / Nike poster. Celebrity advertising works.

I know it works, but for the life of me, it makes no sense. Why would shoes fit me better just because MJ endorsed them? Who is a spokesman for a product has no effect on my buying decision. At best, it makes me aware of the product so I consider it, but that is all.

In fact, I am just the opposite. I know celebrities endorse things not because they approve of them, but because the company paid the most. I tend to look for lesser-known, but perhaps better products, which often are less expensive, too.

About your comment about people developing an emotional or personal attachment toward strangers they have never met.....

Without one, you've just killed the television soap opera for males....professional wrestling. :wink:

[Scott Campbell]

What did Woods do that Letterman did not?




A porn star.

[Kiwon]

What did Woods do that Letterman did not?




A porn star.

:rs:

[pbmax]

I could only stand to watch 5 seconds of the Tiger Woods show, but here's my take:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/tiger_woodss_disgusting_apolog.html

Why did David Letterman give a long, heartfelt, on-the-air apology to us and his staff? Why do we need to know how hard he is going to work to repair his marriage?
Same answers apply to Tiger.

What did Letterman do that Woods did not?
or
What did Woods do that Letterman did not?

There is a large portion of sports fandom that likes nothing more than to see the king toppled. For them, nothing that Woods will ever do will be enough for them.

Woods is a worldwide phenomenon. Very few really give a crap about Letterman, one way or the other. Not that big of a name.

Just my opinions.
I think Harlan is saying the public apology in each case was a financial consideration first and was not really connected at all to becoming a better father or husband.

For Letterman, he was trying to beat the story before it broke, but he also had to be mindful of the affect on his ratings. Tiger can earn plenty of money on Tour without a public mea culpa, but his endorsements would have suffered.

Being beholden to a specific public image is an ugly situation, no doubt.

As for the emotional investment in strangers, think of any teenagers you have known. Affection for, knowledge of and status symbols associated with success are part and parcel of conforming and trying to fit in. They have discovered their parents are not perfect and do not hold the (easy) answers to the universe or even their problems at school.

A pair of Air Jordans was as important to teenagers in my suburban neighborhood as they were in Chicago. Same with his posters, wristbands and baggy shorts. Its all about children wanting to belong to a group. Some in that group will imbue the character they are mimicking with the qualities they imagine they share. That leads almost invariably to disillusionment and the realization that you might have to be your own role model.

Some adults just refuse to learn. :D

And some are just along for the spectacle and gossip.

[Harlan Huckleby]

What did Letterman do that Woods did not?
or
What did Woods do that Letterman did not?

See Scott Campbell's analysis above, but I think they just misbehaved in their private lives. Letterman pulled a Clinton and banged a homely intern behind his girlfriend's back. Woods was more adventurous.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Harlan is saying the public apology in each case was a financial consideration first and was not really connected at all to becoming a better father or husband.
Right. These guys don't call a press conference and apologize to the public when they skip their kid's parent-teacher conference.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp2-20-10sc1.jpg


Another unconvinced lady:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/19/AR2010021904960.html

[Patler]

I never said he needed to apologize. In fact I said he owed us nothing.
BUT, seeing that he did, I thought what he said was sincere, even if prepared and rehearsed.

The problem that he and others run into is that if he says nothing, many will complain. When he talks, just as many are unsatisfied. I did not criticize him for avoiding the press for two months, nor will I criticize him for sticking his foot back in the water, unless he seems insincere. As I said, I thought he was sincere, whether he needed to do it or not.

Basically, when they screw up, no matter what they do to make amends is wrong in the eyes of one group or another. If they only realized that ahead of time they would watch themselves a little more closely.

[MJZiggy]

I'm thinking of putting a sign in my son's room: before you do it, think of the press release you'll be holding when you get caught.

[pbmax]

I'm thinking of putting a sign in my son's room: before you do it, think of the press release you'll be holding when you get caught.
Tell him to think of the video on You Tube.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tell him you'll cut his dick off if he gets some girl pregnant.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The problem that he and others run into is that if he says nothing, many will complain. When he talks, just as many are unsatisfied.

I didn't sense there was a clamor for either Letterman or Woods to apologize and explain themselves. Seems like the situations were self-explanatory.

I think most men were secretly admiring of Tiger (perfect name), especially the stories of his sexual prowess. Nobody cared to even think about Letterman having sex, so that was a giant NO CARE.

[Scott Campbell]

I think most men were secretly admiring of Tiger (perfect name), especially the stories of his sexual prowess.



I don't.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I said secretly. This is the public square.

[Scott Campbell]

I said secretly. This is the public square.


I still don't think most guys secretly admire him. If he were single - maybe. The dude screwed up big time - whether he got caught or not.

[MJZiggy]

I said secretly. This is the public square.

I guess it depends on how most guys would have valued being married to someone like Elin. I think a lot of men thought he had it made with that marriage and can't fathom that he'd have screwed it up (literally) the way he did.

[swede]

The dude from Best Damn Sports Show went on Geraldo saying that Tiger was just doing what guys do. Uh, no, not even most celebrity guys behave like Tiger did.

I don't understand why people universally ascribe such porcine ideals to all men. A few years ago I handled my first mid-life crisis by going back to singing in a bar band. One night a very appreciative lady wearing a snowmobile suit sat at a table close to the band, drank a good dozen Budweiser long necks and smoked a whole pack of Marlboro reds while listening to me croon and wail. After the gig, she invited me to a party she was throwing at her place. I could have declined because of the missing teeth and strange odor, but I didn't. I declined because it would have been wrong to betray my marital vows. So there. At marital fidelity at least I consider myself to be better than Tiger.

[pbmax]

The dude from Best Damn Sports Show went on Geraldo saying that Tiger was just doing what guys do. Uh, no, not even most celebrity guys behave like Tiger did....
I agree that the BDSS guy shouldn't make a blanket statement like that, but what do you expect from that disaster of a show and then Geraldo?

And I don't know about most, but there is an entire cottage industry devoted to catering to the celebrity guys and athletes who want to be at clubs, in a private area with plenty of women around. The woman at the center of Woods scandal early (Rachel Uchitel) was a party organizer and one of her main jobs was to find women to attend the functions.

Now not every celebrity (or athlete) with cash and access to these parties is married, and not even all the single ones run off with the party girls at the end of the night. But the girls are there for a reason, and that is to ensure everyone is happy. Either with the scenery or with the choices. And it is no coincidence that this particular girl (and one other he was linked to who did a similar job in Vegas) has not talked. She wants to stay in business, which means secrets are kept.

So athletes and celebrities have choices and an entire support system that more conventionally compensated individuals do not have access to regularly. This doesn't make them all pigs or all guilty, but it makes the temptation all the more accessible.

As you point out though, it eventually comes down to making a choice. All the other factors just make it easier to rationalize and cover up. The only person who should be getting any satisfaction out of this is Doug Christie's wife. Turns out she wasn't far off the mark.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I said secretly. This is the public square.

I guess it depends on how most guys would have valued being married to someone like Elin. I think a lot of men thought he had it made with that marriage and can't fathom that he'd have screwed it up (literally) the way he did.

You silly girl. The prurient interests of males have NOTHING to do with marriage. I think most men agree with you that his sneaky behavior, and the risk that he put his family in, are detestable.

But on another more primitive level, I am certain that men are fascinated by the stories of The Tiger's sexual feats. Maybe it is more jealousy than admiration, but there certainly is a fascination. I myself have wondered what it would be like to have an endless supply and variety of high quality poon tang. (The first word that comes to mind is "tiring")

[Harlan Huckleby]

At marital fidelity at least I consider myself to be better than Tiger.

I applaud your loyalty to Lena, Sven. Maybe Tiger is a lot hornier, and a lot more emotionally needy than the average bloke. Fidelity might be easier for some people than others.
Its sort of like some people find it easy to resist a chocolate sundae.

[swede]

But on another more primitive level, I am certain that men are fascinated by the stories of The Tiger's sexual feats.

I agree that a portion of men--less than 50% I would guess--would take the trouble to get married and then pursue extramarital affairs. I am not accomplished at making polls, but were you to create one Dawg, I believe that more than 50% of respondents are not "fascinated" or impressed by Tiger's exploits, nor would they desire to replicate them. Keep in mind that single guys can go get all they want as far as I am concerned. I simply do not feel that there is a universal understanding that married men having extramarital affairs represents normal behavior.

[Scott Campbell]

But on another more primitive level, I am certain that men are fascinated by the stories of The Tiger's sexual feats.



If he were single, it might be a different story. The collateral damage here wipes out any thoughts I might have about living vicariously through Tiger. Though I do wish I could putt like him.

[Scott Campbell]

I guess it depends on how most guys would have valued being married to someone like Elin.


Are you saying it would have been more understandable if she hadn't been a bikini model?

[MJZiggy]

No, not that it would have been more understandable, but when Clinton did it, men's attitudes (expressed in their comments at the time) suggested that they were far more understanding in that case considering his wife was Hillary.

Then again, I guess I am saying that in many men's minds, what he has at home makes a difference. I just don't happen to believe it does. If you promised to keep your pecker out of other people's pants, fame does not excuse that vow.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If men aren't interested in details of Tiger's conquests, how come every time a new babe name leaked out, it moved up to the top of google's most searched words?

(of course I just made-up this fact, but I vaguely remember reading something like this somewhere. )

[HowardRoark]

If men aren't interested in details of Tiger's conquests, how come every time a new babe name leaked out, it moved up to the top of google's most searched words?

(of course I just made-up this fact, but I vaguely remember reading something like this somewhere. )

You can make up facts?

[MJZiggy]

For the same reason traffic bottlenecks around wreckage, even when the driving lanes are open. For some reason you just have to look and see how bad the carnage is.

[Harlan Huckleby]

not how bad the carnage is , how good the carnality is

I guess it's possiblity that I am the only perv in this forum who went looking for pictures of Tiger's harem, and read the lurid accounts. More likely I'm speaking for the great silent immoral majority.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If men aren't interested in details of Tiger's conquests, how come every time a new babe name leaked out, it moved up to the top of google's most searched words?

(of course I just made-up this fact, but I vaguely remember reading something like this somewhere. )

You can make up facts?

how long have you known me? you sure are slow on the uptake

[pbmax]

Don't kid yourselves, there are a tremendous number of people following this. Whether they are secretly jealous, prurient or just plain curious is another matter.

[Harlan Huckleby]

bi curious? Tiger is a very handsome man, but you may be projecting here.

[HowardRoark]

Did Elin design the Ryder Cup uniforms for the USA as payback?

They look like they manservant staff at Boy George's house.

[HowardRoark]

How I’ve Redefined Victory
by Tiger WoodsNovember 17, 2010
Jamie Squire / Getty Images
Woods at the BMW Championship in September.

Last November, everything I thought I knew about myself changed abruptly, and what others perceived about me shifted, too. I had been conducting my personal life in an artificial way—as if detached from the values my upbringing had taught, and that I should have embraced.

The physical pain from that car accident has long healed. But the pain in my soul is more complex and unsettling; it has been far more difficult to ease—and to understand. But this much is obvious now: my life was out of balance, and my priorities were out of order. I made terrible choices and repeated mistakes. I hurt the people whom I loved the most. And even beyond accepting the consequences and responsibility, there is the ongoing struggle to learn from my failings.

At first, I didn’t want to look inward. Frankly, I was scared of what I would find—what I had become. But I’m grateful that I did examine my life because it has made me more grounded than I’ve ever been; I hope that with reflection will come wisdom. Golf is a self-centered game, in ways good and bad. So much depends on one’s own abilities. But for me, that self-reliance made me think I could tackle the world by myself. It made me think that if I was successful in golf, then I was invincible. Now I know that, no matter how tough or strong we are, we all need to rely on others.

Slowly, I’m regaining the balance that I’d lost. My healing process is far from complete, but I am beginning to appreciate things I had overlooked before. I’m learning that some victories can mean smiles, not trophies, and that life’s most ordinary events can bring joy. Giving my son, Charlie, a bath, for example, beats chipping another bucket of balls. Making mac and cheese for him and his sister, Sam, is better than dining in any restaurant. Sharing a laugh watching cartoons or reading a book beats channel-surfing alone. Some nights now, it’s just me and the kids, an experience that’s both trying and rewarding. Probably like the experience a lot of families have every evening around the world.

When I first came back to golf this spring, after taking a necessary break, I was worried about how fans would treat me. But they’ve been kinder and more supportive than I ever imagined possible. That’s true away from the golf course, too. When I go to the store, or to work out, or to grab lunch, I’ve been amazed by the considerate, encouraging words I hear. I’ve realized that those sentiments are not merely courtesies but generous expressions of compassion for which I’ll always be thankful.

I have a lasting gratitude to those who stood by me in ways large and small. Unfortunately, opportunists are trying still to cash in on my troubles, no matter how irresponsible or ridiculous their claims may be. In many cases, I’ve never even met these people. But there’s no way I can dispute each lie without provoking more. Besides, everyone has probably heard more than they ever wanted to about my private life.

I can never truly repair the damage I’ve done, especially to my family. But I can keep trying. What endures in the record books are the achievements won through competition. What endures in our actual lives is the love of our family and the respect of others. I know now that some things can and must change with time and effort. I’m not the same man I was a year ago. And that’s a good thing.

Woods, one of the winningest golfers of all time, is founder of the Tiger Woods Foundation, which has helped educate more than 10 million kids.

[HowardRoark]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/extramustard/hotclicks/11/17/paula-patton-tiger-woods-steve-williams-shake-hands/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_bf1_a3

[mraynrand]

What does this remind me of.........Oh, yes. "Hi Skinbasket!" "I Love you Deputy Nutz!"

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201111/111117.08.jpg

[Deputy Nutz]

I get to be the black guy!

[Scott Campbell]

I get to be the black guy!


Maybe that'll help with your "putting".

[HowardRoark]

Is this guy ever going to win a major again?

[mraynrand]

didn't he just win a minor?

[MJZiggy]

didn't he just win a minor?I thought that was illegal.

[woodbuck27]

bi curious? Tiger is a very handsome man, but you may be projecting here.

* or prurienting ... pbmax

** I thought that was illegal.... MJZiggy

* He can prurient all he wants....pbmax

** Ohh OK..wait till I look that word up...MJZiggy

[HowardRoark]

This guy ain't going to beat Jack's record......and here is the ex

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4733883/tiger-woods-wife-elin-bahamas.html

[HowardRoark]

by David Leon Moore, USA TODAY Sports

Published: 01/24/2013 05:50pm

Tiger Woods' dating habits are back in the news, and Lindsey Vonn is again appearing in as many gossip tabloids as she is in skiing magazines.

Woods and Vonn a pair?

Woods and Vonn were unavailable to comment. Woods was in the middle of his round in a tournament in San Diego. Vonn was in Europe training.

So no date night tonight.

Vonn's publicist, Lewis Kay, issued a statement neither confirming or denying the, uh, link.

"Lindsey is currently in the midst of the World Cup season in Europe," the statement read. "Her focus is solely on competing and on defending her titles and thus she will not participate in any speculation surrounding her personal life at this time."