Packer Defense - YEAR COMPARISONS

[Sparkey]

Team Rnk Yards Rush Y/R Pass QBR Sacks 3rd% Poss. Pts.
2009* 2 Green Bay 290.9 83.6 3.57 207.4 71.67 34 35.5 25:54 20.0
2008 21 Green Bay 334.8 131.7 4.60 203.1 70.86 24 38.1 28:56 23.8
2007 11 Green Bay 313.3 103.1 3.87 210.2 73.87 35 33.0 29:42 18.2
2006 12 Green Bay 320.9 114.1 4.14 206.8 72.71 46 32.6 29:15 22.9
2005 6 Green Bay 293.2 126.0 4.01 167.2 84.22 36 35.9 29:22 21.5
2004 25 Green Bay 348.5 117.7 4.60 230.8 99.16 44 35.2 29:33 24.2
2003 16 Green Bay 322.4 106.7 4.19 215.8 68.50 45 36.4 29:19 19.7
2002 7 Green Bay 311.4 128.8 4.79 182.6 67.30 43 34.9 28:42 20.9

*denotes #'s through 14 games


Defensive Coordinators :
2009 - Dom Capers
2006/08 - Bob Sanders
2005 - Jim Bates
2004 - Bob Slowik
2002/03 - Ed Donatell


Thought all you packerrats might be interested in the comparison at this point in the season. The yards per rush and quarterback rating really stands out for this year.

Also, the QB rating in Slowik's year as coordinator was 99.16! Holy crap!

[gbgary]

this year's is much better. look at the time on the field...a lot less. better offense is letting them get more rest. wonder what the turn-over/take-away situation was for those years.

[BallHawk]

Slowik was averaging giving up a 100 QB passer rating per game? Jaysus.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Slowik was averaging giving up a 100 QB passer rating per game? Jaysus.

And we couldn't stop the run either (4.6 yards/carry).

[pbmax]

I know he was part of the 4th and 26 debacle, but Ed Donatell doesn't get enough credit. He was a credible D Coord. And I think he is currently out of a job.

Injuries killed Sanders last year, but he had a good one in 2007 at 18.2 points a game. And that D carried the team for the first Quarter to Half of the season.

And from the things we should have known department, having three DTs on the field at one time (Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins) makes it hard to run the football.

[channtheman]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.

[hoosier]

I know he was part of the 4th and 26 debacle, but Ed Donatell doesn't get enough credit. He was a credible D Coord. And I think he is currently out of a job.

Injuries killed Sanders last year, but he had a good one in 2007 at 18.2 points a game. And that D carried the team for the first Quarter to Half of the season.

And from the things we should have known department, having three DTs on the field at one time (Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins) makes it hard to run the football.

Didn't it come out afterwards that Donatell really had a different play called on 4th and 26, something involving more pressure on McNabb, and that Shermy overruled him and forced them to play a quarters defense? Or am I just imagining that happened because it's more convenient to blame one person for the entire debacle?

[pbmax]

I know he was part of the 4th and 26 debacle, but Ed Donatell doesn't get enough credit. He was a credible D Coord. And I think he is currently out of a job.

Injuries killed Sanders last year, but he had a good one in 2007 at 18.2 points a game. And that D carried the team for the first Quarter to Half of the season.

And from the things we should have known department, having three DTs on the field at one time (Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins) makes it hard to run the football.

Didn't it come out afterwards that Donatell really had a different play called on 4th and 26, something involving more pressure on McNabb, and that Shermy overruled him and forced them to play a quarters defense? Or am I just imagining that happened because it's more convenient to blame one person for the entire debacle?
That was the rumor but I am not aware that it led anywhere or was ever confirmed.

[Waldo]

And from the things we should have known department, having three DTs on the field at one time (Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins) makes it hard to run the football.

I can't count the number of times that I tried to explain to people that a 3-4 alignment is a schematically superior run defense to a typical 4-3 (the 46 variation absolutely excels though).

There was a lot of panic about our run D back in the spring. Really it was our pass D, and especially pressure, that was the most concerning (the 3-4 alignment has no pressure/coverage advantages over a 4-3). Most teams that convert from a 4-3 to a 3-4 dramatically improve at run defense, however most also decline a little at bringing pressure.

[cheesner]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.


Here's a link - someone has actually done the comparison:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19549&sid=fa8df2a4939ca768e25d4326ca4010f5

[pbmax]

And from the things we should have known department, having three DTs on the field at one time (Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins) makes it hard to run the football.

I can't count the number of times that I tried to explain to people that a 3-4 alignment is a schematically superior run defense to a typical 4-3 (the 46 variation absolutely excels though).

There was a lot of panic about our run D back in the spring. Really it was our pass D, and especially pressure, that was the most concerning (the 3-4 alignment has no pressure/coverage advantages over a 4-3). Most teams that convert from a 4-3 to a 3-4 dramatically improve at run defense, however most also decline a little at bringing pressure.
McCarthy covered this a bit in his early introduce Dom Capers introduction. That he felt there were only two gaps to attack a 3-4 run D versus the 3 available from a 4-3. But I think everyone thinks of the trade off of one D lineman for a linebacker as getting smaller and less physical.

What is easy to forget, is that you gain 2 bigger bodies (essentially 3 technique tackles) on the line rather than one DT and one DE.

[mraynrand]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.


Here's a link - someone has actually done the comparison:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19549&sid=fa8df2a4939ca768e25d4326ca4010f5

lol

[ThunderDan]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.


Here's a link - someone has actually done the comparison:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19549&sid=fa8df2a4939ca768e25d4326ca4010f5

Now that is some funny $hit!!

[channtheman]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.


Here's a link - someone has actually done the comparison:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19549&sid=fa8df2a4939ca768e25d4326ca4010f5

The first time I looked at it I didn't even see the rankings there. :oops:

[Sparkey]

It would be interesting to see how those defenses ranked compared to this years.


Here's a link - someone has actually done the comparison:

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=19549&sid=fa8df2a4939ca768e25d4326ca4010f5 :glug: :glug: :glug:

[MichiganPackerFan]

That was DAMN funny!!

[Sparkey]

comparison updated thru week 15

[Sparkey]

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[Sparkey]

Team Rnk Yards Rush Y/R Pass QBR Sacks 3rd% Poss. Pts.
2009* 2 Green Bay 290.9 83.6 3.57 207.4 71.67 34 35.5 25:54 20.0
2008 21 Green Bay 334.8 131.7 4.60 203.1 70.86 24 38.1 28:56 23.8
2007 11 Green Bay 313.3 103.1 3.87 210.2 73.87 35 33.0 29:42 18.2
2006 12 Green Bay 320.9 114.1 4.14 206.8 72.71 46 32.6 29:15 22.9
2005 6 Green Bay 293.2 126.0 4.01 167.2 84.22 36 35.9 29:22 21.5
2004 25 Green Bay 348.5 117.7 4.60 230.8 99.16 44 35.2 29:33 24.2
2003 16 Green Bay 322.4 106.7 4.19 215.8 68.50 45 36.4 29:19 19.7
2002 7 Green Bay 311.4 128.8 4.79 182.6 67.30 43 34.9 28:42 20.9

*denotes #'s through 14 games


Defensive Coordinators :
2009 - Dom Capers
2006/08 - Bob Sanders
2005 - Jim Bates
2004 - Bob Slowik
2002/03 - Ed Donatell




Still ranked #2 after the game at Pittsburgh.

[rbaloha1]

The defense always had talent. Finally a dc put the players in position to make plays.