Official Packer/Steeler Thread

[imscott72]

NO F'ING WAY..How stupid is that??

[Badgerinmaine]

Wow. I left for 15 minutes to help my wife with our baby and come back to 28-27.

Nice.
Don't you have some more things you could do...heat some bottles, fold some baby blankets, or something? Run along, now. :-)

Wife just asked me to clean her pumping gear. :lol:
Vital task. Please go help. We'll update you later.
:lol: :lol:

[gbgary]

game-winning drive time!!!!

Come on Pack!!

[Fosco33]

Wow - they have no confidence in their defense. Now we just need a few 1st downs and a short FG or TD.

[Badgerinmaine]

That nearly paid off big for Pittsburgh. Yow.

[packer4life]

Wow - they have no confidence in their defense. Now we just need a few 1st downs and a short FG or TD.

EPIC PENALTY

[Guiness]

That was balsy.

[Badgerinmaine]

That was balsy.
Sure was. Trouble is, they wound up getting kicked in 'em. :shock:

[imscott72]

and a short FG

No..

[gbgary]

get the first and move the chains.

[Rastak]

That was balsy.


And stupid.

[Fosco33]

Call a timeout.

[imscott72]

If Mase misses a potential game winner, he gets released this week..

[gbgary]

just wasted a to. dammit mm.

[Fosco33]

and a short FG

No..

I still think Crosby is the guy. He'll redeem himself.

[Badgerinmaine]

No Packers time outs left...but if the drive works they won't need them.

[digitaldean]

He may join Nick Folk. Sounds like Dallas may can his butt after missing the 26 yd chippy that could've iced the win last night.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

This is the situation where teams are made. This is huge.

[gbgary]

Come on Pack!!

[imscott72]

720 pass yards this game between the two teams..

[imscott72]

88 is a STUD

[digitaldean]

Both teams have been pretty fast and loose with their timeouts today.

[gbgary]

don't get run happy and settle for a fg.

[imscott72]

He may join Nick Folk. Sounds like Dallas may can his butt after missing the 26 yd chippy that could've iced the win last night.

Wouldn't it be ironic if we switched kickers?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Scott Wells blown back by another great defensive lineman who is much bigger than him.

[Brandon494]

score a TD, I do NOT trust Crosby for shit.

[gbgary]

come on...get another first and then a touchdown.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I do not want to rely on Crosby.

[digitaldean]

Obviously want a TD here, but if we can get a first down here it puts pressure on Pitts. to burn TO's or do a "Holmy" and let us score.

[imscott72]

FUCK YEA BABY

[gbgary]

omg!!!

[Rastak]

That was a nice catch.

[digitaldean]

There's your touchdown!

[imscott72]

And Crosby just had a big sigh of relief.. :lol:

[GrnBay007]

JJ!!!! :clap:

[digitaldean]

I like that move in going for 2!!!

[Guiness]

If Mase misses a potential game winner, he gets released this week..

It would be tough, but if he misses 2 makeable FG's, and we lose by 2 pts, it could be his Ahmed moment.

edit: wow Jones!

[digitaldean]

Now let's hope that Crosby doesn't have to save the day on the kickoff!

[packer4life]

smart decision by MM. Im kinda impressed.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

TURNOVER TIME BABY!

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[packer4life]

SPECIAL TEAMS LUCK!

[imscott72]

Popp!! Big sack!!

[Badgerinmaine]

POP-PING-A!

[gbgary]

pick 6 for chuck coming.

[Brandon494]

forgot he was even on the team, cant believe he started for as long as he did.

[Guiness]

Defense closing the door here.

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[Fosco33]

We can keep trading FGs for TDs.

they can have another fg 8-)

[imscott72]

UGH

[Brandon494]

Best CB in the game screwed that up

[Fosco33]

dang - keep them in front

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[Fosco33]

dang it

[imscott72]

Ugh again..

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[imscott72]

WTF Chillar..

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Clay with the constant pressure!

[Fosco33]

come on D

[gbgary]

let's win this.

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[Fosco33]

2 more to V formation

[gbgary]

Come on

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!

[Fosco33]

bush v miller -- really?

[packer4life]

bush and chillar involved in a dece amount of negative plays

[gbgary]

dammit...the flag stops the clock.

[Fosco33]

penalties are killing us

[Brandon494]

WHY THE FUCK IS JOSH BELL ON HOLMES????????

[imscott72]

This is getting a wee bit scary now..

[Rastak]

Helluva finish.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Wow...I think this game has taken a couple of weeks off my life.

[Bretsky]

Come on D

How about that #1 rated defense

Sack would end it here :!:

[Brandon494]

I almost hope the Steelers win the way we are playing defense right now.

Letting Big Ben throw for almost 500 yards is god damn BS.

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D...NO TOUCHDOWNS!!

[imscott72]

Damn..Jenkins whiffs and Ben has all day..Wow..

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I almost hope the Steelers win the way we are playing defense right now.

Letting Big Ben throw for almost 500 yards is god damn BS.

Someone take away your fan card.


ONE MORE PLAY COME ON!!!

[imscott72]

OMG WE JUST LOST

[gbgary]

:shock:

[Rastak]

OMG WE JUST LOST

I think he got it.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

fucking disgusting

[Kiwon]

:shock: !!!!

[imscott72]

I almost hope the Steelers win the way we are playing defense right now.



Looks like you get your wish...

[MOBB DEEP]

F*&% me!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Rushing fucking 3 guys when Ben's been carving the defense up is stupid

[digitaldean]

This is what happens with rushing stinking 3 people.

[Fosco33]

Well Jenkins could've ended it with the sack.

Then the don't call the hold on him on the final play! Easy TD pass against who? Man our CBs are weak depth.

Refs haven't called much oline holding - but have no problem calling def holding.

Man that sucks.

[Guiness]

2 defensive holding penalties on that drive

[wist43]

Never, Ever rush 3... I don't care what the situation is...


NEVER, EVER, RUSH 3!!!!!!

[gbgary]

DAMMIT!

[red]

I WANT THAT FAT FUCK MCCARTHY GONE

i don't care if we win the fucking super bowl

his fucking team make me want to fucking puke

[sheepshead]

Penalties. MM has got to go. I'm totally disgusted watching this team.

[imscott72]

This one hurts really really bad..I just hope we don't miss the playoffs over this one..

[digitaldean]

Stupid dumb ass weak prevent defense.

503 yards.... passing for Pitts.

What a waste of comeback by A-Rod.

[red]

Never, Ever rush 3... I don't care what the situation is...


NEVER, EVER, RUSH 3!!!!!!

exactly

why are we in the fucking prevent the whole last drive against a guy that has been cutting us up at will

stupid

[sheepshead]

Two fucking seasons of leading the NFL in penalties? Fuck McCarthy. Im pissed.

[Brandon494]

fuck Josh Bell! fuck the steelers! fuck Mason Crosby! fuck the world! I'm out, going to get wasted!

[Bretsky]

WHY THE FUCK IS JOSH BELL ON HOLMES????????


or anybody

[Fosco33]

What happened to this Defense today? :oops:

[imscott72]

I don't understand the lack of blitz either. Ben's had 5+ seconds to throw that whole drive, but we don't blitz at all. I just don't get it.

[Badgerinmaine]

Well Jenkins could've ended it with the sack.

Then the don't call the hold on him on the final play! Easy TD pass against who? Man our CBs are weak depth.

Refs haven't called much oline holding - but have no problem calling def holding.

Man that sucks.
jenkins fucking should have had him that blew the game.

[WEASERGB]

MM got to go F him

[Fritz]

I WANT THAT FAT FUCK MCCARTHY GONE

i don't care if we win the fucking super bowl

his fucking team make me want to fucking puke

Heat of the moment. It'll be okay, Red.

[Cheesehead Craig]

This one hurts really really bad..I just hope we don't miss the playoffs over this one..
We won't miss the playoffs. That I'm not worried about.

[wist43]

This one is on Capers...

[imscott72]

Please give Mason a fucking one way ticket out of town..Should of never came down to this..

[Fosco33]

Bush and Bell fucking suck. Amazing that we'd rather have Bell in there than another down lineman.

[Fritz]

I don't understand the lack of blitz either. Ben's had 5+ seconds to throw that whole drive, but we don't blitz at all. I just don't get it.

I'm just not a fan of rushing three guys. Geez, it gives the QB too much time and too good of a throwing lane. It's too much to ask of any defensive backfield.

[Badgerinmaine]

Packers gave up 503 yards passing. MOST PASSING YARDS ALLOWED IN THE LEAGUE THIS YEAR. DID YOU HEAR THAT?! More than the Browns. The Rams. The Lions. Tampa Freakign Bay. The MOST.
Sorry, Mr. McCarthy. That is NOT ACCEPTABLE. nOT TO A TEAM IN A FIVE GAME LOSING STREAK. You need to move along.

[Fritz]

Bush and Bell fucking suck. Amazing that we'd rather have Bell in there than another down lineman.

I think this is a good point. The defensive line is the strength of the team - so put four of them out there to rush, or rush three and a linebacker or two. Put some heat on Rothlisberger.

And really, look at Bell's coverage. Come on. It was actually pretty darn good.

[lionstar]

Giving up 500 yards to hamburger is not cool and a major concern!!

[Badgerinmaine]

I would bet right now that making the playoffs will come down to that game. And the Packers failed.

[Fosco33]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

[red]

Bush and Bell fucking suck. Amazing that we'd rather have Bell in there than another down lineman.

I think this is a good point. The defensive line is the strength of the team - so put four of them out there to rush, or rush three and a linebacker or two. Put some heat on Rothlisberger.

And really, look at Bell's coverage. Come on. It was actually pretty darn good.

very good point

[WEASERGB]

Why is Bush on this team? He has done no good since he has been here.

[pasquale]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

I agree. Maybe this is another TB-type wake up call.

[channtheman]

Uhh guys, how is losing this game going to keep us out of the playoffs? If we beat Seattle we are pretty much in.

If we were going to lose to Seattle and AZ, then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyway.

[red]

the play calling on our scoring drive was also pretty stupid IMO

we could have run the ball, and run a lot more time of the clock

we left way too much time for them to come back

our coaches, and players for that matter, sucked today

[imscott72]

This one hurts really really bad..I just hope we don't miss the playoffs over this one..
We won't miss the playoffs. That I'm not worried about.

Do we seriously want to be in the playoffs? We're obviously one and done. We have way too many penalties over and over, no depth in the secondary, lack of pass rush, etc. I just don't see how we could possibly succeed if we did get in.

[Administrator]

Why is Bush on this team? He has done no good since he has been here.

Welcome to the forum! Good to have you here.

I'd guess the answer to your question is that he's a special teams demon. Unfortunately he isn't a very good corner back.

[Brandon494]

If Jenkins makes that sack the play before the god damn game is over as well. Also 3 penalties on the final drive is BS. Once against your secondary looks like shit against a good QB.

looks like the off side kick actually won the game for them....sigh

[imscott72]

Bush and Bell fucking suck. Amazing that we'd rather have Bell in there than another down lineman.

I think this is a good point. The defensive line is the strength of the team - so put four of them out there to rush, or rush three and a linebacker or two. Put some heat on Rothlisberger.

And really, look at Bell's coverage. Come on. It was actually pretty darn good.

Yea this isn't on Bell at all. Ben simply had the time AGAIN to put it exactly where he needed to for Wallace to get it.

[channtheman]

the play calling on our scoring drive was also pretty stupid IMO

we could have run the ball, and run a lot more time of the clock

we left way too much time for them to come back

our coaches, and players for that matter, sucked today

Offense did everything it needed to do. This one is all on the defense... and Mason.

[Brandon494]

Charles Woodson played liek shit today too, don't want to hear anymore crap about him being better than Revis.

[WEASERGB]

Thanks for the welcome. Is Bush really a special teams demon? I have watched every game this season and I do not see him as a ST demon.

[imscott72]

Charles Woodson played liek shit today too, don't want to hear anymore crap about him being better than Revis.

Who said he's better than Revis? Man, it's not even close..

[red]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

[channtheman]

Thanks for the welcome. Is Bush really a special teams demon? I have watched every game this season and I do not see him as a ST demon.

That's what people say about him. However, he often runs himself right out of the play, or at least I noticed on 2 or 3 kicks in the Thanksgiving game.

[Brandon494]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

Losing by one point with no time left is not a wake up call, this one is going to hurt. Good thing we have Seattle next but the way our pass defense looked today Hassellback will prob throw for 600 yards.

[imscott72]

Thanks for the welcome. Is Bush really a special teams demon? I have watched every game this season and I do not see him as a ST demon.

His skills on ST's do not trump his weakness in the nickle. I'm sick of it.

[Fosco33]

Stats that matter:

Negative:
-AR - 54% completions w/ tons of drops, high passes

-9 rush attempts by running backs - NINE. That doesn't do much for you - look at TOP 24 to 36 minutes.

-No forced turnovers

-Missed FG (to lose by 1)

-Let up 28 1st downs and 500 yards passing

Positive:
- 5 TDs
- 4 receivers with 70+ yards each
- Rodgers 383 yards passing and 3 TDs, no INTs
- 5 sacks and only 1 allowed
- 63% on 3rd down


In this case - the lack of turnovers, lack of committment to the run (and TOP) led to a tired Defense. Case in point the last quarter just getting jacked left/right and holding onto FGs (until the last second). Very hard to win a game like that on the road. Needed to have that Mason FG, needed to have Jenkins wrap up the sack.

Time to put it behind them.

[mission]

Thanks for the welcome. Is Bush really a special teams demon? I have watched every game this season and I do not see him as a ST demon.

His skills on ST's do not trump his weakness in the nickle. I'm sick of it.

Ahmad Carroll had better ball skills than Bush.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kind of figured the game would go like that. Two good defenses, but they play the same scheme. Those offenses practice against that scheme every day. Oh well! Win next week, get into the playoffs, and smack people around.

Not sure why people said the Steelers don't have anything to play for. Going into today, they were one game back in the Wild Card and almost every team around them lost--except Baltimore. If they beat Baltimore next week, they are even with them.

[gbgary]

bad sports weekend for me...BOSTON BRUINS, DALLAS MAVERICKS, PACKERS AND MANCHESTER UNITED all lost. i'm bummin'!!

well...what does this do to us in the playoff picture?

[Fosco33]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Unfortunately Woodson got hurt in 2nd Q of Bears game going into the half. No one here seems to talk about it and I didn't see any discussion with M3. But he was listed on the injury report w/ a bum shoulder.

It's affected his ability to turn the hips, it's hurt him on multiple tackles (including the rushing TD today) and overall created more exposure to our 4th/5th stringers (Bush/Bell). I think PITT knew it - I mean how many times did they target TWill. Seems Woodson had the target on him.

[MTPackerfan]

need to root for the Redskins tomorrow night, if the Giants lose, I think the Packers are in the POs. No one thought the Packers were going to run the table on the last five games anyway. I'm as pissed as anyone but it is not the end of the world and the offense played especially well in the 4th.

[channtheman]

bad sports weekend for me...BOSTON BRUINS, DALLAS MAVERICKS, PACKERS AND MANCHESTER UNITED all lost. i'm bummin'!!

well...what does this do to us in the playoff picture?

I would think we are still 5. We have a tiebreaker over Dallas and I think everyone else has at least 6 losses. Despite what some are saying, losing this game does not somehow make our playoff hopes slimmer. We still control our destiny.

[gbgary]

need to root for the Redskins tomorrow night, if the Giants lose, I think the Packers are in the POs. No one thought the Packers were going to run the table on the last five games anyway. I'm as pissed as anyone but it is not the end of the world and the offense played especially well in the 4th.

the d did too except for the last drive...with the penalties.

[red]

Thanks for the welcome. Is Bush really a special teams demon? I have watched every game this season and I do not see him as a ST demon.

His skills on ST's do not trump his weakness in the nickle. I'm sick of it.

Ahmad Carroll had better ball skills than Bush.

bush has no ball skills at all that i have seen

i mentioned this earlier in the week and he proved it again today. he never ever plays the ball, looks for the ball, tries to stop the ball from getting to the wr.

he just throws up his hands. and it makes it worse when he's always letting his man get behind him

best case for bush is tackling his guy after his man gets the catch

[Badgerinmaine]

Not sure why people said the Steelers don't have anything to play for. Going into today, they were one game back in the Wild Card and almost every team around them lost--except Baltimore. If they beat Baltimore next week, they are even with them.
Yup, almost every game this week broke their way, starting with the Jacksonville loss.

[Fosco33]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

Losing by one point with no time left is not a wake up call, this one is going to hurt. Good thing we have Seattle next but the way our pass defense looked today Hassellback will prob throw for 600 yards.

A loss is always a wake up call. Exposes areas of development and makes them hungry. The D didn't seem too intense today outside of Matthews and the DLine.

It'd have hurt more if it affected playoff chances (vs. a NFC wild card team or NFC in general). Going into the season - did anyone really think we'd beat the Steelers in PITT?

[mission]

was really impressed with rodgers late in the game... i thought the kid really came through.

i dont feel as bad about this loss as maybe i should

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

[red]

bad sports weekend for me...BOSTON BRUINS, DALLAS MAVERICKS, PACKERS AND MANCHESTER UNITED all lost. i'm bummin'!!

well...what does this do to us in the playoff picture?

well, it doesn't make life easy for us

we're now ties at 9-5 with dallas, we're both the two wild card teams

giants are at 7-6 and playing a weak washington team tomorrow. they could be 8-6

its gonna be a catfight, when we could have locked things up with one fucking stop today

[imscott72]

no turnovers the whole game..how crazy is that?

[MTPackerfan]

I am more drained than anything, talk about edge of the seat.

[MTPackerfan]

no turnovers the whole game..how crazy is that?

we should have gotten that fumble and sack early in teh game by Matthews and unfortunately, Bush's interception didn't stand due to Chillar's penalty

[Fosco33]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

And with the Seahawks losing at HOME to the Bucs - they'll be either fired up or done dealing. At least we're not the only team to lose to TB.

And the Bears got killed by a team the Pack beat.

Could be worse.

[mission]

I am more drained than anything, talk about edge of the seat.

ive paced 12 beers out pretty well today :lol: :lol:

[imscott72]

bad sports weekend for me...BOSTON BRUINS, DALLAS MAVERICKS, PACKERS AND MANCHESTER UNITED all lost. i'm bummin'!!

well...what does this do to us in the playoff picture?

well, it doesn't make life easy for us

we're now ties at 9-5 with dallas, we're both the two wild card teams

giants are at 7-6 and playing a weak washington team tomorrow. they could be 8-6

its gonna be a catfight, when we could have locked things up with one fucking stop today

I think the Skins win tomorrow night. Giants will be tight. For the Skins is's basically their Superbowl..

[digitaldean]

It hurts in the fact that we had the game freaking won.

Pitts. had the ball on their own 14 with 1 TO. It took 1 missed INT, 1 missed sack, several penalties and one helluva piss poor set defensive play calls (3 man rush) that cost us this game.

Time of possession and the missed FG had a part in this for sure. But if ARod would have thrown a pick on the last drive, how many would have been screaming about how he can't bring a team back in crunchtime?

Woodson had a very subpar game.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Rushing three!!!

What was that all about?

Unless I'm wrong, this is the second time this year a team drove down the field with a free pass and beat us.

Very frustrating.

[denverYooper]

was really impressed with rodgers late in the game... i thought the kid really came through.

i dont feel as bad about this loss as maybe i should

Arod played one hell of a game. I'm bummed they couldn't finish that one for him.

[Cheesehead Craig]

This one hurts really really bad..I just hope we don't miss the playoffs over this one..
We won't miss the playoffs. That I'm not worried about.

Do we seriously want to be in the playoffs? We're obviously one and done. We have way too many penalties over and over, no depth in the secondary, lack of pass rush, etc. I just don't see how we could possibly succeed if we did get in.

Are you for real? You don't want to make the playoffs?

"We're obviously one and done"?

Just change your name to Chicken Little.

[Willard]

* Last time the Pack lost a game, they won 5 straight. I'll take that deal again!
* This was disappointing, but Ben would not be denied. Come on Cullen, pull a Reggie and get that monster on the ground!
* We need Pickett back on the field. Was Jolly in Pittsburg or in a Houston courtroom?
* Mason - please see a sports psychologist before next week's game!

Go Skins!

[gbpackfan]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

And with the Seahawks losing at HOME to the Bucs - they'll be either fired up or done dealing. At least we're not the only team to lose to TB.

And the Bears got killed by a team the Pack beat.

Could be worse.

The Packers will roll the Seahawks next week. Mark my words. We'll head into Arizona 10-5. The question is will we have to win to get in?

[mraynrand]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Rushing three!!!

What was that all about?

Unless I'm wrong, this is the second time this year a team drove down the field with a free pass and beat us.

Very frustrating.

It's much easier to defend against three when you are allowed to hold. Jolly was grossly held on the final pass. Refs called everything else on that final drive; should have called that.

[red]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Rushing three!!!

What was that all about?

Unless I'm wrong, this is the second time this year a team drove down the field with a free pass and beat us.

Very frustrating.

that's the point i was trying to get at. with our piss poor coverage, we can't sit back rush three and let qb's have all day to find an open guy. because with our weak secondary, someone will get open

[Fosco33]

Well Jenkins could've ended it with the sack.

Then the don't call the hold on him on the final play! Easy TD pass against who? Man our CBs are weak depth.

Refs haven't called much oline holding - but have no problem calling def holding.

Man that sucks.

agreed ayn.

[lionstar]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?

[gbpackfan]

This one hurts really really bad..I just hope we don't miss the playoffs over this one..
We won't miss the playoffs. That I'm not worried about.

Do we seriously want to be in the playoffs? We're obviously one and done. We have way too many penalties over and over, no depth in the secondary, lack of pass rush, etc. I just don't see how we could possibly succeed if we did get in.

Are you for real? You don't want to make the playoffs?

"We're obviously one and done"?

Just change your name to Chicken Little.

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Our offense showed up today while our defense did not. This is the opposite of what has been occuring lately. If both sides could show up on the same day, maybe we'd have something special. The lack of depth in the secondary is concerning but we have a pass rush. You need to send more then three though. Capers should have dialed up a blitz on that last play. Make Ben get it out quick. Then tackle the ball carrier short of the goal line. Sending two pass rushers (I dont count Wynn - what a shit player) was a huge mistake. One that cost the Packers the game. Bell had good coverage, you can't make a play on a perfeft throw and a perfect catch. Pass rush was the key there.

[red]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?

another no name clown brought up from the PS instead of grabbing a vet free agent who's played before

[Willard]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.

[WEASERGB]

Bell is a guard for the Bucks

[BallHawk]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?

another no name clown brought up from the PS instead of grabbing a vet free agent who's played before

No, Bell started at CB in Denver in place of Champ Bailey. Bell was one of the best CBs on the market.

[Willard]

Bell is a guard for the Bucks
First he let Kobe beat the Bucks, then he let Ben beat the Pack. What a week!

[digitaldean]

If the Giants lose ANY game, and we beat Seattle, we're in, period.

Otherwise, here are the tiebreaker scenarios:
Wild Card - Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

49ers, with their loss are out. Falcons are out. It's just the GMen, Philly, Dallas and us for 3 spots. One of the other 3 will get the NFC East. We need to take care of business vs. Seattle.

[WEASERGB]

Why is Bell not in Denver anymore?

[denverYooper]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.

Yeah. Can't fault Bell too much on that one. Wallace had to catch it falling out of the side of the EZ.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Rushing three!!!

What was that all about?

Unless I'm wrong, this is the second time this year a team drove down the field with a free pass and beat us.

Very frustrating.

It's much easier to defend against three when you are allowed to hold. Jolly was grossly held on the final pass. Refs called everything else on that final drive; should have called that.

I don't think we should ever been in that position. We put the game in the hands of the refs, we're done.

This was the kind of game where the team that had the ball last wins. Rush #7 with a ton of people and only good things can happen. If they score quick, at least you got a chance to come back with a kick to win.

Allowing any NFL QB to stand back there with all the time in the world to throw is suicide, especially on that field. Rothloesberger was accurate all day. So we give him the ball, all the time in the world and say "Beat us."

I just don't get it.

[BallHawk]

Why is Bell not in Denver anymore?

He got hurt and they let him go. He had high praise from all the coaches.

[mraynrand]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.

It was good coverage. Wonder why they decided to leave Bell in single coverage? Ben had that extra time because Jolly was grossly held. Oh well.


Gotta hand it to the Steelers for that onside kick try. It ultimately gave them enough time on the clock to drive the whole field - good call!

[digitaldean]

Yeah, but if we would've done what we should've and won the game, Tomlin would have been criticized like crazy for that onside kick try.

[Badgerinmaine]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.
You know, now that I'm a little calmer, I'd have to agree. His position was good, but the one problem he had was that his foot slipped a bit on the bad turf right as he was about to lunge in and try to deflect the pass. If he hadn't slipped, he might well have tipped it. It is true that Big Ben made a hell of a throw.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yeah, but if we would've done what we should've and won the game, Tomlin would have been criticized like crazy for that onside kick try.

Actually, I was thinkinig that the Packers should try the same thing after Jones' TD. :)

[Willard]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.

It was good coverage. Wonder why they decided to leave Bell in single coverage? Ben had that extra time because Jolly was grossly held. Oh well.


Gotta hand it to the Steelers for that onside kick try. It ultimately gave them enough time on the clock to drive the whole field - good call!
Nice spin, Ari Fleischer!

[red]

If the Giants lose ANY game, and we beat Seattle, we're in, period.

Otherwise, here are the tiebreaker scenarios:
Wild Card - Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

49ers, with their loss are out. Falcons are out. It's just the GMen, Philly, Dallas and us for 3 spots. One of the other 3 will get the NFC East. We need to take care of business vs. Seattle.

giants play the skins tomorrow and should win easily. then they have the panthers who is also very beatable. then they end the season against the vikings. the queens will have things all locked up and should be resting their guys by then. giants could run the table

we have to win next week against the seahawks, we absolutely have to, because i don't know if we beat the cardinals the following week

[mraynrand]

Guess I'd rather lose another AFC game and have the Seahawks and Cards to finish the season. Tough to go into the playoffs with a gigantic streak - maybe this wakes them back up.

sorry, but if we don't get things straightened out fast arizona is gonna light us up in two weeks

steelers just exposed a giant weakness. our coverage sucks. we have one great CB, one decent one in t-will. then guys that have no right being in the nfl

if we're only gonna rush three then teams will kill us through the air

Rushing three!!!

What was that all about?

Unless I'm wrong, this is the second time this year a team drove down the field with a free pass and beat us.

Very frustrating.

It's much easier to defend against three when you are allowed to hold. Jolly was grossly held on the final pass. Refs called everything else on that final drive; should have called that.

I don't think we should ever been in that position. We put the game in the hands of the refs, we're done.

This was the kind of game where the team that had the ball last wins. Rush #7 with a ton of people and only good things can happen. If they score quick, at least you got a chance to come back with a kick to win.

Allowing any NFL QB to stand back there with all the time in the world to throw is suicide, especially on that field. Rothloesberger was accurate all day. So we give him the ball, all the time in the world and say "Beat us."

I just don't get it.

The refs can decide what to call and not to call. Chillar's penalty could have been let go to - it was just a hair over five yards downfield. When you get a close game like this though, it's easy to find all sorts of ways it could have turned. It's amazing how many things went exactly right for the Steelers on that final play. The throw was just perfect, the two toes were just down long enough - Bell had his hand in there but just didn't get any wiggle, Jolly was held just enough to prevent him from altering the throw. Amazing. Bet we could commiserate with the Cards about this shit.

[BallHawk]

giants play the skins tomorrow and should win easily. then they have the panthers who is also very beatable. then they end the season against the vikings. the queens will have things all locked up and should be resting their guys by then. giants could run the table

we have to win next week against the seahawks, we absolutely have to, because i don't know if we beat the cardinals the following week

The Skins are a better team than their record indicates. Lots of close losses. Panthers are the same way. They end the season against the Vikes and will everything locked up, but so will the Cardinals.

[Badgerinmaine]

Yeah, but if we would've done what we should've and won the game, Tomlin would have been criticized like crazy for that onside kick try.
I was listening to the radio broadcast on the Internet and following the CBS Sportsline game tracker--you would be amazed how many fansthere on the live blog wrote that he should be fired for that--the year after winning the Super Bowl! Even worse, several of them went racist on him, saying things what a "stupid N----" he was and "this is what happens when you hire N----s"--yipes. mad at the coach is one thing, but some folks went way off the deep end.

[mraynrand]

Rodgers is a stud, Crosby is a joke and who the hell is BELL?
I didn't really think Bell's coverage was that bad. He had pretty good position, but it was a perfect pass. Too bad Ben had enough time to find him.

It was good coverage. Wonder why they decided to leave Bell in single coverage? Ben had that extra time because Jolly was grossly held. Oh well.


Gotta hand it to the Steelers for that onside kick try. It ultimately gave them enough time on the clock to drive the whole field - good call!
Nice spin, Ari Fleischer!

Where's my 40K?

[sheepshead]

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[Badgerinmaine]

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"Bush is being watered when he really needs to be pruned"

[Willard]

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"Instant TD reception, just add water"

[denverYooper]

How much would opinions change if Bush's INT stood and ended the game?

[Badgerinmaine]

How much would opinions change if Bush's INT stood and ended the game?
Well, if I recall right, the penalty helped make the play because Hines Ward flat out was knocked the the ground. He might well have been able to break up the play otherwise.

[Willard]

How much would opinions change if Bush's INT stood and ended the game?
Probably not. It was a gimmee. Chillar tipped it into the air. I could have caught it.....ok, maybe not.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The refs can decide what to call and not to call. Chillar's penalty could have been let go to - it was just a hair over five yards downfield. When you get a close game like this though, it's easy to find all sorts of ways it could have turned. It's amazing how many things went exactly right for the Steelers on that final play. The throw was just perfect, the two toes were just down long enough - Bell had his hand in there but just didn't get any wiggle, Jolly was held just enough to prevent him from altering the throw. Amazing. Bet we could commiserate with the Cards about this shit.

My biggest beef is strategery.

We can't control the refs, but we can control how we approach the game.

Our offensive strategy was basically drop back 5 steps and either throw while your backpeddling or set yourself if you can and heave it downfield.

Our defensive strategy was cover their guys up, let Big Ben have time and see if he can beat you.

How did that work out?

Time of Pos.: Green Bay - 24:38/ Pittsburgh - 35:22

Only because GB is more talented on offense was the game even close.

[ThunderDan]

We are Al Harris away from being really scary. With Bush or Bell we are going to be vulnerable if our pass rush doesn't get home the rest of the year.

[pbmax]

3 penalties by the defense killed them on that drive, nothing else. They had them stopped twice, then penalty. In a strange way, if Jones falls down at the one on his TD catch like Maurice Jones Drew did, we might have won that game.

Great game, it was fantastic to see them come back. Loved the Grant run (his vision seems to have improved of all things), Rodgers run TD and the throw to Finley for a TD was a thing of beauty. Also great throws and catches to Nelson and Jones.

I forgive Lee for what I thought was a drop wide open in the middle of the field, leading to an unfortunate oath to find him and ask him to leave the team. The ball had bounced off the defender's pads.

We all knew the D was going to take time. We are still lacking pass rush. They will get better and better.

[Fosco33]

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wet behind the ears....

[red]

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trying to cool down because he's always getting burned

[ThunderDan]

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At least I'm better than Ahmad Carroll!

[esoxx]

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I suck

[pbmax]

The refs can decide what to call and not to call. Chillar's penalty could have been let go to - it was just a hair over five yards downfield. When you get a close game like this though, it's easy to find all sorts of ways it could have turned. It's amazing how many things went exactly right for the Steelers on that final play. The throw was just perfect, the two toes were just down long enough - Bell had his hand in there but just didn't get any wiggle, Jolly was held just enough to prevent him from altering the throw. Amazing. Bet we could commiserate with the Cards about this shit.

My biggest beef is strategery.

We can't control the refs, but we can control how we approach the game.

Our offensive strategy was basically drop back 5 steps and either throw while your backpeddling or set yourself if you can and heave it downfield.

Our defensive strategy was cover their guys up, let Big Ben have time and see if he can beat you.

How did that work out?

Time of Pos.: Green Bay - 24:38/ Pittsburgh - 35:22

Only because GB is more talented on offense was the game even close.
That was not the defensive strategy. The Packers blitzed all day, except at the end of the half and at the end of the game when they were looking to burn clock. Problem was they kept getting out of bounds on crosses.

I do think we need to improve the pass rush, he had time even when the Packers sent 4 or 5. Penalties also gave them first downs and clock stoppages. Can't do both.

[Fosco33]

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I want to say something about having a back that is wet. But MadTown may hunt me down :lol:

[red]

i'll tell you one good thing about today's game

every packer fan, including the women, should have a major stiffy after finley's jump ball catch in the endzone. that's an unstoppable redzone weapon that we should be seeing for many years to come

you simply cannot defend that pass

[Brando19]

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At least I'm better than Ahmad Carroll!

I'm cooling myself down cuz I know I'm going to hell for lying about being better than Ahmad Carroll!

[HowardRoark]

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Is Haiku OK?

bush getting wet
a thundering herd coming
i'm screwed

[bobblehead]

3 penalties by the defense killed them on that drive, nothing else. They had them stopped twice, then penalty. In a strange way, if Jones falls down at the one on his TD catch like Maurice Jones Drew did, we might have won that game.


I was screaming "TAKE A KNEE" as he went in....my best friend turned to me and said "yea, might as well leave the game in Crosby's foot".

[red]

Wow, radio caller just made a great point

if jones takes a knee at the 1 instead of scoring the touchdowns. you could take a large chunk of time off the clock, and maybe make the steelers burn a timeout

all we needed was a fg to win.

kneel down 3 times and you take the clock to a minute and kick the fG.

give the ball back with under a minute and no timeouts

great points the guy brought up

[Fritz]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.

[Packers4Ever]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

Funny, I'm not either, I halfway expected a game like this, they just about HAD to pull one out, with their recent record. We'll go on and win the next 2, see what happens then....

It's the Crosby thing that galls me !! :shock: One bad kick.........

[red]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

Funny, I'm not either, I halfway expected a game like this, they just about HAD to pull one out, with their recent record. We'll go on and win the next 2, see what happens then....

It's the Crosby thing that galls me !! :shock: One bad kick.........

can't just blame it on the one kick. that isn't that only chance we had to win the game.

there were about a dozen plays on the last drive where if any of them had gone our way we would have one

[red]

ok, after watching the replay of the final play, i just can't fault bell for that coverage

it was damn good

he was left on an island and it took a perfect pass and catch to beat him

and holy hell jenkins was mugged

[gbgary]

with minn getting beat this loss is even harder to swallow. ugh!!

[Packers4Ever]

I'm just not that pissed. Played a good team on the road when they had everything to play for, and we lost on the last play. Oh well! In the end it probably won't matter one bit that we lost this game--provided we beat Seattle next week. If we lose to Seattle, then I will be pissed.

Funny, I'm not either, I halfway expected a game like this, they just about HAD to pull one out, with their recent record. We'll go on and win the next 2, see what happens then....

It's the Crosby thing that galls me !! :shock: One bad kick.........

can't just blame it on the one kick. that isn't that only chance we had to win the game.


there were about a dozen plays on the last drive where if any of them had gone our way we would have one


I Know it, Red, there were other chances, it's just that I was irked over the
missed kick, it should not keep happening. Oh well, next week it's
another game. We'll do GREAT then.

[pbmax]

Wow, radio caller just made a great point

if jones takes a knee at the 1 instead of scoring the touchdowns. you could take a large chunk of time off the clock, and maybe make the steelers burn a timeout

all we needed was a fg to win.

kneel down 3 times and you take the clock to a minute and kick the fG.

give the ball back with under a minute and no timeouts

great points the guy brought up
Maurice Jones Drew did this two or three weeks ago. Would have been better. Even if all three rush attempts fail, chip shot FG for the lead.

[pbmax]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

[Scott Campbell]

Nice run gex.

[channtheman]

with minn getting beat this loss is even harder to swallow. ugh!!

One ref call from being in the division race with 2 to go! Oh well... :(

[Badgerinmaine]

can't just blame it on the one kick. that isn't that only chance we had to win the game.

there were about a dozen plays on the last drive where if any of them had gone our way we would have one
I completely agree--and I agree that Bell had excellent coverage on the TD pass--it just was one heckuva pass by Big Ben.

[Freak Out]

Wow.....there is some crazy stuff in here. I have to admit I couldn't watch the last play even though I thought we had it won. The penalties on us were maddening and the non calls on the Steelers just made it worse....but you need to dial up one play to stop them and fail........ugh.

[Fritz]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.

[Bretsky]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.


I see both sided, but personally I'd have more faith in Crosby Kicking it in that our secondary stopping Big Ben the way that game was going.

[sheepshead]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.

Agreed. Play football for Pets sake. The Achilles Heal of this Packer team is penalties. Cut those down and you don't put competitors like Tomlin, Ben et al in a position where they think they can beat you and ultimately do.

[jmbarnes101]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.

I agree with Fritz in this situation. Not to mention he still would have had a minute and only needed to get into field goal position with Jeff Reed available. He's a great kicker in that place. A couple of passes and they're setting up for the FG to win it that way. We had a better chance trying to get a stop and couldn't get it done.

[Fritz]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.

I agree with Fritz in this situation. Not to mention he still would have had a minute and only needed to get into field goal position with Jeff Reed available. He's a great kicker in that place. A couple of passes and they're setting up for the FG to win it that way. We had a better chance trying to get a stop and couldn't get it done.

This is also a good point. Instead of making Pittsburgh have to get to the end zone, you leave them only having to get to about the 25 yard line.

I learned this lesson many years ago, in another life, when I coached boys' basketball. We were undefeated - about 10 - 0 - and up by one at the end of a game but were having a hard time playing defense. However, the other team's point guard was a terrible, terrible free throw shooter. I told my guys to foul him on the inbounds and make him shoot free throws. He was like 0 - 6 at that point and had a season average in about the 40th percentile.

The kids did as I instructed, the opposing point guard hit two - count 'em, two - free throws, and suddenly the pressure was on my kids to score with about six seconds left. We lost, and I learned a valuable lesson.

[The Leaper]

Wow, radio caller just made a great point

if jones takes a knee at the 1 instead of scoring the touchdowns. you could take a large chunk of time off the clock, and maybe make the steelers burn a timeout

all we needed was a fg to win.

kneel down 3 times and you take the clock to a minute and kick the fG.

give the ball back with under a minute and no timeouts

great points the guy brought up

I agree that is a potential possibility...and with the Steelers already racking up 400+ yards in passing offense, it probably would've been the best choice. I knew they were going to get at least a couple shots at the end zone...and Big Ben is ridiculous at making plays in those situations.

At the very least, Jones should've stood at the goal line and let time run down as far as possible before scoring. We got screwed on the change of possession, because the Steelers got an extra time out when we tackled their returner at 2:01. That would've eliminated the last :03

[imscott72]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.


I see both sided, but personally I'd have more faith in Crosby Kicking it in that our secondary stopping Big Ben the way that game was going.

I do to, and you can rule out the fumbles because you could just take a knee or even kick it on 3rd down should something go wrong. I know it's against conventional thinking, but in hindsight it might have worked.

[imscott72]

But what if there's a fumble on one of those plays? What if the field goal is blocked?

Nah, you don't pass up a chance to score six.
But in that case, the clock and your spent defense are just behind the score in importance. Its worth the risk considering the gain. Think about the Steelers having the ball with no timeouts and under 2 minutes.

I still think the risk is greater than the reward. You're saying that a player who has a chance to score the go ahead touchdown - not field goal, but touchdown - should pass on that? Again, the risks are too great. A fumble. A blocked kick. Heck, the way Crosby is kicking, a missed kick. Then you're behind.

Nah, you've got to take the six. Let your defense play defense.

I agree with Fritz in this situation. Not to mention he still would have had a minute and only needed to get into field goal position with Jeff Reed available. He's a great kicker in that place. A couple of passes and they're setting up for the FG to win it that way. We had a better chance trying to get a stop and couldn't get it done.

This is also a good point. Instead of making Pittsburgh have to get to the end zone, you leave them only having to get to about the 25 yard line.


Yea but there would have been approx a minute left with no timeouts. Not easy to go 60-70 yards assuming they start at their own 20.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not a chance in hell that I'd want Jones to take a knee at the 1 yard line with over 2 minutes left and the Steelers having a timeout.

[pbmax]

The timeout and the two minute warning make it tough. I think the math would work if they score a TD, but if they instead settle for a FG, its too much time.

[mission]

FWIW, I think Josh Bell might end up playing that 3rd corner pretty well for the rest of the season. I know he gave up the big play and I hated him for a moment but there's no way in hell that #24 would have been any closer to that ball than Bell was. I expect him to learn and get better as his snaps increase... hopefully they do.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I just hope that Woodson clone they've been growing in that vat deep under Lambeau Field is done.

[The Leaper]

The timeout and the two minute warning make it tough. I think the math would work if they score a TD, but if they instead settle for a FG, its too much time.

If Jones takes a knee...the clock is going down to the 2 minute warning unless Pittsburgh uses their last time out before it gets to 2:00.

The Steelers could have only stopped the clock one more time after that play, so we could've run another 80 seconds off the clock...so if we had kicked a FG on 4th down to take the lead, the Steelers get the ball back with roughly 30 seconds left after the FG and kickoff return.

[green_bowl_packer]

Replay of this game now (Wed 1:30PM CST) on NFL Network for the masochists out there.