Official Packers-Cardinals Playoff Thread

[retailguy]

Ok now
we can still pull this one off
hang in there

i thought you left?

[digitaldean]

Well, we have at least moved back in the game with a pulse.

The D has to cover better or this TD will be negated in a hurry.

[ThunderDan]

There we go boys. Don't give up we are still in it. Now let's see if the D can hold on a long field

[red]

c-wood defensive mvp

locked it up right there

[Kiwon]

TD!!!

We still missed another on the Jennings missed pass.

[MOBB DEEP]

c-wood defensive mvp

locked it up right there

qft

[Bretsky]

17-7; back in it. Too bad we didn't defer the kickoff. I hate taking the ball right away in the playoffs; would rather get it in half two.

Stop here and get another score and it's game on. If Rodgers hits a wide open Jennings for that TD we'd be in good shape

[The Leaper]

With the FB dive... it's either there, or it's not.

No plan B, no ability for runner to cut it up, break it out... awful play call.

The FB dive is OK if you have dominant OGs.

We don't.

[red]

wow

man has the rock hit rock bottom these days

[KYPack]

Defensive series of this game.

A stop and give the O the ball, it can be a dog fight.

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

[Jimx29]

I'm afeared my box of cookies isn't gonna last till the end of the half....

[Bossman641]

Game is still on boys. Don't give up hope yet

[wist43]

Okay... hopefully we can hold the half-time score to 24-7 :D

Then maybe Capers will decide to get into the receivers faces, and get creative up front after HT??? Don't count on it though... when he decides to go soft... nothing will shake him from it.

[retailguy]

Our OL sucks. But Grant is running hard in spite of that. that's good.

Woodson & Matthews aren't giving up. that's good.

Not much else is good so far.

[ThunderDan]

Yeah, all lanes filled. 1 and 10 at the 21. No short field!!

[The Leaper]

Defense has to make a stop here...and we need to score again. With Cards getting ball to start 2nd half, we need to get back within at least 3 by half.

[wist43]

Game is still on boys. Don't give up hope yet

No, not unless Capers adjusts - AND NOW!!!!

And his history say he won't... we'll give up 50 pts, and he'll defend his game plan after the game.

His tendancy to go "pussy"... was really my only concern with Capers...

[ThunderDan]

Defense has to make a stop here...and we need to score again. With Cards getting ball to start 2nd half, we need to get back within at least 3 by half.

No we don't. It sure would be nice but if we can pull within 10 and hold to start the 3rd we are in it.

[The Leaper]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

[wist43]

Good thing I started drinking just b/4 kickoff :lol:

[digitaldean]

The soft side of Capers is what is so frustrating...

They can unleash the gates of hell some games and others we go into the bend but don't break Vanilla Bob crap.

[ThunderDan]

Didn't Wells' knee hit?

[Jimx29]

somewhere along the line the stripping shit has to stop and start tackling

[retailguy]

Good thing I started drinking just b/4 kickoff :lol:

i probably should start.

[retailguy]

no answer for breaston. i knew we didn't match up well against him, but holy crap!

[The Leaper]

no answer for breaston. i knew we didn't match up well against him, but holy crap!

Thank God they don't have Boldin.

[retailguy]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

too risky to do that. he's picking the D apart right now. really exposing our LB's. this is a great game plan for az right now.

back to the fundamentals. THEN rush warner.

[red]

Good thing I started drinking just b/4 kickoff :lol:

i probably should start.

i think its time to start with boilermakers

beer alone might take too long

[retailguy]

no answer for breaston. i knew we didn't match up well against him, but holy crap!

Thank God they don't have Boldin.

I think we match up better against boldin honestly. we don't do well with speed wr's. but yeah, i agree. could you imagine covering LJ, breaston and boldin? blech.

[KYPack]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

he's got the best QB rating in the NFL against the blitz.

you have to get pressure with 4 (Matthews rushing isn't a blitz) and cover him.

Pressure?

Sure

Send 5, he'll eat us alive.

[retailguy]

Good thing I started drinking just b/4 kickoff :lol:

i probably should start.

i think its time to start with boilermakers

beer alone might take too long

maybe an IV? :wink:

[red]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

too risky to do that. he's picking the D apart right now. really exposing our LB's. this is a great game plan for az right now.

back to the fundamentals. THEN rush warner.

that why you have to blitz

we aren't covering squat

[retailguy]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

too risky to do that. he's picking the D apart right now. really exposing our LB's. this is a great game plan for az right now.

back to the fundamentals. THEN rush warner.

that why you have to blitz

we aren't covering squat

thats exactly why you can't blitz. the open guy will eat us up all day. we can't get there with 5 right now fast enough.

[Brohm]

Run D is getting destroyed. Linemen all on their backs ><

[retailguy]

WTF? Stop trying to strip and FUCKING TACKLE!

[The Leaper]

too risky to do that. he's picking the D apart right now. really exposing our LB's. this is a great game plan for az right now.

So you want to keep doing what we are doing then? Drop back into coverage and let Warner sit there and pick us apart?

[red]

Ah, you can't blitz Warner, you've got to rush 4 and cover him.

What?

The ONLY way to beat Warner is get pressure in his face. He doesn't have mobility and isn't a very tall guy...so pressure in his face is the kiss of death. We need more Hawk-Barnett blitzes up the gut.

too risky to do that. he's picking the D apart right now. really exposing our LB's. this is a great game plan for az right now.

back to the fundamentals. THEN rush warner.

that why you have to blitz

we aren't covering squat

thats exactly why you can't blitz. the open guy will eat us up all day. we can't get there with 5 right now fast enough.

they already are, how can it get any worse?

bigby is worthless. he got his one big hit for the year last week, but other then that he's really below average

[retailguy]

Run D is getting destroyed. Linemen all on their backs ><

AZ has studied well. all our warts are plain and out there. They really game planned well for this. US? Not so much. we look like a fucking JV squad on both sides of the ball.

[The Leaper]

Wow...look.

The blitz worked.

If we don't start blitzing and taking chances...the Cards score 45.

[Kiwon]

Why are the Packers playing so slow? The Cards are just running by them.

[Brohm]

We forgot how to fucking tackle as well.

[Guiness]

hit beanie behind the los, couldn't put him on the ground and a face mask tacked on the end! :x

[The Leaper]

So, we go back to rushing 4 and droping into coverage...

Arizona TD.

[ND72]

have a good offseason boys. later.

[red]

going for big hits and strips , not tackles

fucking bush again

[Jimx29]

somewhere along the line the stripping shit has to stop and start tackling^^What he said^^

[Brohm]

Az 4th receiver killing Bush/Underwood/Chillar.

[Kiwon]

We're getting killed!!

The Cards will be able to rest their starters if this keeps up!!

[wist43]

Okay... well, 31-7 :lol:

[Packers4Glory]

way to get the ball back for us Defense. needed a stop and they let them drive and score. they are running the ball like the best rushing offense in the lg.

choke artists. i know what its like to root for chicago teams now.

[digitaldean]

Like I said, D had to step up or our TD would be negated quickly.

Crappy tackling, poor overall coverage and Warner is tearing us apart.

[Jimx29]

I was actually looking forward to a Pack V Vikes conference game..... not so much now

[ND72]

I can't even tell you how happy I am that we are paying Chillar a ton of money now to miss tackles. He should never be on the field.

If Jarrett Bush is on the team next year, I'm cheering for Chicago.

I can't even deal with this.

[Brandon494]

Warner is looking way to comfortable in the pocket, that has to stop. I think we'll score here and go into the half down 24-14.

[wist43]

Completely outcoached...

Actually, from here on out in the playoffs... I'll be pulling for Arizona and Baltimore.

So... I have things to look forward to :D

[ND72]

Like I said, D had to step up or our TD would be negated quickly.

Crappy tackling, poor overall coverage and Warner is tearing us apart.


that is the game right there in a nutshell.

[The Leaper]

AZ has studied well. all our warts are plain and out there. They really game planned well for this. US? Not so much. we look like a fucking JV squad on both sides of the ball.

We aren't that good. Our OL is average at best. Our DL really can't pressure the QB against a better than average OL. Our secondary...even with Woodson...is subpar in coverage.

I like Jennings and Driver...but IMO they are not elite WRs, and we don't do a good enough job of game planning to take advantage of their talent.

[red]

jordy fucking nelson

[digitaldean]

Bush must have photos on somebody to stick with this team for so long.

[Brohm]

Troubling that Capers has not been to find an answer for QBS the likes of Farve/Rothlisberger/Warner.

Nelson with good ball protection again.

[KYPack]

Lucky Jordy didn't get called for delay of game on that slow ass return.

[red]

I can't even tell you how happy I am that we are paying Chillar a ton of money now to miss tackles. He should never be on the field.

If Jarrett Bush is on the team next year, I'm cheering for Chicago.

I can't even deal with this.

agreed

agreed

and agreed

[red]

Lucky Jordy didn't get called for delay of game on that slow ass return.

lol

very nice, very nice

[Brandon494]

GOD I HATE JORDY NELSON!

I can't believe how many were so high on this kid.

[The Leaper]

I've never seen a returner get gang tackled this much all year. Do we actually have all our blockers on the field???

[retailguy]

Completely outcoached...

Actually, from here on out in the playoffs... I'll be pulling for Arizona and Baltimore.

So... I have things to look forward to :D

this is clearly coaching. last week made this team way too over confident. even affected the fans here. :wink:

End of the line, AZ planned really well for this. they have had an answer for everything this team has tried.

mccrappy is a fucking doofus.

[Jimx29]

Lucky Jordy didn't get called for delay of game on that slow ass return.Thanks for the laugh....it's needed

[Freak Out]

Sweet fuckin crazy apes.

[wist43]

This is where a "forensic psychologist" would come in handy for you guys...

I fully expected Capers to play soft...

As Hannibel Lecter says, "what is its nature"???

Capers would always prefer to sit back and play lazy defense, and hope the opposing offense makes a mistake... that's all well and good against Alex Smith - against Kurt Warner, you're going to give up 60 pts...

[sheepshead]

Ken Whisenhut has taken Mike McCarthy to the woodshed over the last 8 days. I know it wont happen but MM should be canned if this doesnt change today.

[Brando19]

Bush must have photos on somebody to stick with this team for so long.

Nude photos of McCarthy when he got a little tipsy and went to the Golden Corrall.

[The Leaper]

GOD I HATE JORDY NELSON!

I can't believe how many were so high on this kid.

He's a good receiver.

No, he isn't a great return guy...especially when he's getting hit by 2-3 guys every time. You have to look hard to see our special team blockers sustaining any blocks.

[Kiwon]

Dodged a bullet.

[Bretsky]

going for big hits and strips , not tackles

fucking bush again


Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

[retailguy]

AZ has studied well. all our warts are plain and out there. They really game planned well for this. US? Not so much. we look like a fucking JV squad on both sides of the ball.

We aren't that good. Our OL is average at best. Our DL really can't pressure the QB against a better than average OL. Our secondary...even with Woodson...is subpar in coverage.

I like Jennings and Driver...but IMO they are not elite WRs, and we don't do a good enough job of game planning to take advantage of their talent.

i've been saying that for 4 years. teh OL is the biggest problem with this team right now. Our DL is better this year, but still not great.

What is surprising me most right now is the way AZ is exposing the LB's, where the fuck is everybody?

AZ is picking apart this team, wart by wart, and McCrappy doesn't have a fucking clue what to do about it.

this is on HIM. totally.

[mmmdk]

Playoffs is simply played at a higher tempo; Packers are slow and exposed. Plus 2 turnovers on first 3 snaps doesn't help either.

Not trying to spoil your party but this one is pretty much over...or greatest Packer comeback in Packer history!? :shock:

[Brandon494]

GOD I HATE JORDY NELSON!

I can't believe how many were so high on this kid.

He's a good receiver.

No, he isn't a great return guy...especially when he's getting hit by 2-3 guys every time. You have to look hard to see our special team blockers sustaining any blocks.

He is not that good of a reciever. He is solid but thats it.

[wist43]

Wow, I changed the channel... 2 min warning and we still have the ball??? :wave:

[Brando19]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

[The Leaper]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.

[retailguy]

Ken Whisenhut has taken Mike McCarthy to the woodshed over the last 8 days. I know it wont happen but MM should be canned if this doesnt change today.

change? This fucking game was over after 10 minutes. Change? Yeah, ok.

[wist43]

What are the odds that Capers realizes there is a guy in the slot after HT???

[Kiwon]

Desperately need some points before the half.

McCarthy better have the inspirational speech of his life prepared along with the D coaches figuring out how to cover and stop the Cards O.

[sheepshead]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

come on, this isnt about personnel..the cards are that much better than us? give me a break.

[The Leaper]

He is not that good of a reciever. He is solid but thats it.

Better than James Jones...yuck.

[Brohm]

Throw in a drop by Jones just to hit up on EVERY FAULT this team has had this year.

[wist43]

Ken Whisenhut has taken Mike McCarthy to the woodshed over the last 8 days. I know it wont happen but MM should be canned if this doesnt change today.

change? This fucking game was over after 10 minutes. Change? Yeah, ok.

Well, the game is over... but hopefully they can at least turn it into something other than a complete embarrassment.

[retailguy]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.

you weren't around for the week for the bigby love fest? He's really a pro bowler.

[Brohm]

Dayum Finley said GTFO me :shock:

[Packers4Glory]

I'm so over James Jones. time to move on.

[The Leaper]

Finley is a freaking manchild. He got mugged and still caught it.

NOTE: Arizona isn't rushing 4 and dropping into coverage. Amazing how that works.

[KYPack]

OK, I'm gonna take an opposite approach.

james jones is a great player that never drops a pass.

[MOBB DEEP]

so finley gets cocky again?? great

look at score bord

[Kiwon]

What a catch!!

[retailguy]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

come on, this isnt about personnel..the cards are that much better than us? give me a break.

yes the cards are that much better, and you're right, it starts with the coach.

[red]

AZ has studied well. all our warts are plain and out there. They really game planned well for this. US? Not so much. we look like a fucking JV squad on both sides of the ball.

We aren't that good. Our OL is average at best. Our DL really can't pressure the QB against a better than average OL. Our secondary...even with Woodson...is subpar in coverage.

I like Jennings and Driver...but IMO they are not elite WRs, and we don't do a good enough job of game planning to take advantage of their talent.

i've been saying that for 4 years. teh OL is the biggest problem with this team right now. Our DL is better this year, but still not great.

What is surprising me most right now is the way AZ is exposing the LB's, where the fuck is everybody?

AZ is picking apart this team, wart by wart, and McCrappy doesn't have a fucking clue what to do about it.

this is on HIM. totally.

in a 3-4 the d-line are not suppose to get pressure

they are suppose to take up space so the lb's can blitz freely. the lb's are the ones that get the pressure

you will never get sustaned pressure with 3-4 d linemen

the fact that we get any is a bonus

we HAVE to blitz because we run the 3-4

[The Leaper]

Just throw to Finley every time...but run a couple times so our defense can't give up another TD this half.

[mmmdk]

Dayum Finely said GTFO me :shock:

Look at bright side; Finley is sure a present/future star :D

[red]

finley is a god

[Jimx29]

please don't score to fast.....

[Kiwon]

Let's keep it going....

[MOBB DEEP]

FAVRE SIGHTING

:cry:

[digitaldean]

Desperately need some points before the half.

McCarthy better have the inspirational speech of his life prepared along with the D coaches figuring out how to cover and stop the Cards O.

I thought the speech that C-Wood gave the team this week would do it (about how Pro Bowl accolades don't mean squat unless you win the whole thing). Enough speeches, actions are what's needed.

Let's call this what it is. A thorough butt whooping because this team "thought they had Arizona's number".

Even if we get the ball in before HT, the D HAS to play better to even have a shot. If Dom goes back to the Twinkie deluxe defense, we'll lose by 4 TD's easy.

[Packers4Glory]

awesome play call there. pitch to jackson for nill.

[ND72]

SERIOUSLY...mike mccarthy, no shovel passes...run fucking plays that score us touchdowns right now.

[red]

well, that would have worked if it wasn't for wells getting his tiny ass shoved into the backfield and into jackson

[Brohm]

Would be nice to ATTACK THE ENDZONE :shock:

[Deputy Nutz]

awesome shuttle pass.

[mmmdk]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

come on, this isnt about personnel..the cards are that much better than us? give me a break.

yes the cards are that much better, and you're right, it starts with the coach.

McCoach will still be here next year = Packers not really going anywhere...unless TT buys us a new OL, ST and a starting corner. :lol:

[MOBB DEEP]

NEED touchdown

[wist43]

WOW!!!!

Are those 2 awful play calls or what :lol:

M3 being cute, as opposed to aggressive...

God I hate pussy ball...

[Brando19]

awesome shuttle pass.
Yeah...that'll make a poster.

[Jimx29]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

come on, this isnt about personnel..the cards are that much better than us? give me a break.

yes the cards are that much better, and you're right, it starts with the coach.

McCoach will still be here next year = Packers not really going anywhere...unless TT buys us a new OL, ST and a starting corner. :lol:and fires himself

[Brandon494]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

chill out, every need has a weak link.

We lost our best coverage CB in Harris and our KR/PR in Blackmon.

Collins is a pro bowl cailber safety and Bigby is solid as a starter.

Also you really going to complain about a punter?

You might have a point about the O-line but we really only need a LT to replace Clifton.

[The Leaper]

The shovel pass...with our OL and RBs...is what needs to come out of our playbook.

[digitaldean]

To be honest, ANY kind of points would help. To come up empty here is idiotic. But then again the way this game started....

[esoxx]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

No one said the playoffs were easy and if you thought this would be easy you're a dumbass.

Game far from over.

[Kiwon]

Why aren't these guys hustling?

They wasted too much time.

[Brohm]

Wow, fucking horrible.

[red]

horse collar

[MOBB DEEP]

awesome shuttle pass.

i frickn love you

[red]

tough call.. td or fg?

i say go for the td

[wist43]

That's just awful coaching...

1st and goal at the 9???

Pump it into the end zone 3 times... what a fag, lol...

[Packers4Glory]

we needed a TD there. horrible clock management.

FUCK U M3

[The Leaper]

WHAT??? FUCKING FG???

[red]

thats what you get with piss poor clock management, we've seen that all year from MM

[Brohm]

What a way to blow that opportunity :evil:

[Jimx29]

tough call.. td or fg?

i say go for the tdMM hasn't the balls. He'd rather shoot for a 54 yarder

[The Leaper]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

So which part of Arizona walking up and down the field have you missed?

[mmmdk]

tough call.. td or fg?

i say go for the td

I agree.

[red]

hey look its mm's patented play not to win approach

[Brandon494]

WHAT??? FUCKING FG???

Yes, you take the points when you can.

We have a whole half of football left, if you don't get the TD its a 3 possession game instead of 2. Not that hard to figure out.

[Brando19]

tough call.. td or fg?

i say go for the td

I agree.

And what if it was a failed TD attempt and time ran out? Then you'd want a FG.

[digitaldean]

Even if we got a TD, it wouldn't mean squat if we tackle, pass rush or cover like we did in the first half.

[esoxx]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

So which part of Arizona walking up and down the field have you missed?

Go cry Leaper.

[The Leaper]

thats what you get with piss poor clock management, we've seen that all year from MM

Yeah...no reason to take it down to the bare minimum. Leave yourself SOME breathing room. Make sure it gets down to under 45 sec...then conserve time.

[GrnBay007]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

No one said the playoffs were easy and if you thought this would be easy you're a dumbass.

Game far from over.

No kidding! Only down by 14 and a whole half left to play! They can do it.

[ND72]

tough call.. td or fg?

i say go for the td

I agree.

They had to get points there, no chance for a TD there, play that smart. It's about the only smart thing McCarthy has done. 2 horrible play calls with few seconds left, and no timeout called after the shovel. Fucking stupid.

[rbaloha1]

thats what you get with piss poor clock management, we've seen that all year from MM

Easy to say now. Its still a 2 score game. No need to allow Warner enough time at end of 1st half.

Yes, MM has generally poor clock management. Sometimes like Sherman

[sheepshead]

Nice clock management MM.. This is like some pop warner coach took over. I cant stand watching this team like this. Like Arod said-going through the motions. Please MM has got to go. I hope we get our asses kicked.

[Kiwon]

Why aren't these guys hustling?

They wasted too much time.

They missed another chance! They are behind....screw how much time you leave on the clock if you score!

The Packers are killing themselves in every area, including coaching.

[Bretsky]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

[The Leaper]

Go cry Leaper.

Not crying...just pointing out fact.

What makes you honestly think that this defense is capable of stopping the Cardinals? The 28 missed tackles? The wide open receivers. Kurt Warner's shiny clean jersey?

We don't have a chance unless Capers grows some balls. Arizona is bringing the heat...it is affecting us. We are letting Arizona do whatever they want.

[mmmdk]

This team needs sooooo much (O linemen, Safety, CB, KR, Punter)...if TT doesn't dip into FA this year...something is wrong. Make a trade or something...don't just rely on the freakin' draft.

come on, this isnt about personnel..the cards are that much better than us? give me a break.

yes the cards are that much better, and you're right, it starts with the coach.

McCoach will still be here next year = Packers not really going anywhere...unless TT buys us a new OL, ST and a starting corner. :lol:and fires himself

What TT ? I think TT deserves next season too - too bad he picked vanilla HC.

For TT & McCoach to survive - what do they need to achieve next season?

[wist43]

WHAT??? FUCKING FG???

After puking on their shoes on 1st and 2nd down... they only gave themselves 1 shot at the End Zone... after that, they had to kick the FG.

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...

When those guys commit to a game plan, they're committed... if it works, they look like geniuses... if it doesn't, we're screwed, coz they won't adjust... they'll just keep banging their heads, and keep wondering why it isn't working...

Then, after the game, they'll defend the game plan...

That's their MO...

[Deputy Nutz]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

No one said the playoffs were easy and if you thought this would be easy you're a dumbass.

Game far from over.

No kidding! Only down by 14 and a whole half left to play! They can do it.

You are forgetting 4>12.

[Packers4Glory]

as much as i wanted to go for the TD you have to take the points and hope you can make the right adjustments at the half to get some stops.

AZ has been playing w/ amazing field position all game. they have had 1 real drive they had to work at but the defense don't seem like they can stop anything. which is what would compel you to go for the TD there.

[green_bowl_packer]

Just down by those two fucking turnovers. . .

[Cheesehead Craig]

Unless the defense can actually force some punts and get at least another turnover in the second half, we aren't winning this.

[Bossman641]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

No one said the playoffs were easy and if you thought this would be easy you're a dumbass.

Game far from over.

No kidding! Only down by 14 and a whole half left to play! They can do it.

Seconded

[ND72]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

You're not in the minority, I think Bigby is freaking horrible, and I always have. We cut our starting safety Anthony Smith.

[The Leaper]

We have a whole half of football left, if you don't get the TD its a 3 possession game instead of 2. Not that hard to figure out.

With our defense getting shredded...we need max points. Kicking FGs won't win this game.

You have to have balls...our coaches have none.

[Bretsky]

The shovel pass...with our OL and RBs...is what needs to come out of our playbook.


hate that play versus a speedy DL

[retailguy]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

You're not in the minority, I think Bigby is freaking horrible, and I always have. We cut our starting safety Anthony Smith.

go read the 8 pages of bigby love. you're misinformed. he's a probowler. Smith isn't worth a crap. :roll:

[mmmdk]

Packers must score 28 + in second half...to have a chance ! Damn, won't happen.

[rbaloha1]

Why is Bush still on the field? No brains.

[The Leaper]

The shovel pass...with our OL and RBs...is what needs to come out of our playbook.

hate that play versus a speedy DL

Yeah...but I hate it against any DL with our OL and RBs.

[Brohm]

The problem I have with the end of the half is that it seem MM just assumes he is going to get a TD, 1st and goal and doesn't attack the endzone, the plays don't work, but then a miracle happens and we get another set of downs, but whoops out of time :( We were down there with 1:15 left....

[esoxx]

Go cry Leaper.

Not crying...just pointing out fact.

What makes you honestly think that this defense is capable of stopping the Cardinals? The 28 missed tackles? The wide open receivers. Kurt Warner's shiny clean jersey?

We don't have a chance unless Capers grows some balls. Arizona is bringing the heat...it is affecting us. We are letting Arizona do whatever they want.

You have seven months to whine about it after the game. What does Capers have to do with AR throwing a bad ball on the first play and then DD fumbling on the next series? Besides nothing.

All I see are a bunch of whining, sniveling crybabies who wear emotion on their sleeve with their head up their ass.

If you want to quit before the game's over, that's up to you. The Packers aren't going to quit but you negative pukes can take a walk.

[billy_oliver880]

such an embarrassing start to this game...

[retailguy]

Packers must score 28 + in second half...to have a chance ! Damn, won't happen.

not the way things are going right now.

Our OL is horrible, our LB's have been exposed, and we have no answer for Breaston. Early Doucet? Who the fuck is Early Doucet, other than the guy matched up on bush?

[Deputy Nutz]

You packer fans are fugging hilarious!

All doom and gloom after drinking all that kool-aid. Try the purple stuff next time!

[Freak Out]

Capers better work some magic so we have a chance here in the second half.

That shovel pass just killed me.....but this thing is far from over.

[mmmdk]

Why is Bush still on the field? No brains.

Cromartie won't change team...sorry ! :wink:

[wist43]

Go cry Leaper.

Not crying...just pointing out fact.

What makes you honestly think that this defense is capable of stopping the Cardinals? The 28 missed tackles? The wide open receivers. Kurt Warner's shiny clean jersey?

We don't have a chance unless Capers grows some balls. Arizona is bringing the heat...it is affecting us. We are letting Arizona do whatever they want.

It's not brain surgery... do ya think Arizona was going to come out and spead us out??? DAH!!!! :lol:

As I was saying during the week... you could tell how the game was going to go very early on... if Capers came out like he had his period, Arizona would score 8 billion pts.

Was pretty obvious, pretty quickly... Capers has his period...

He might make some minor adjustments, but he is committed to letting receivers have free releases, and letting Warner sit in the pocket... as Hannibel says... it's his nature.

AND YOU WATCH, AFTER THE GAME - HE'LL DEFEND IT :lol:

[PA Pack Fan]

We are clearly out coached again.

[retailguy]

Go cry Leaper.

Not crying...just pointing out fact.

What makes you honestly think that this defense is capable of stopping the Cardinals? The 28 missed tackles? The wide open receivers. Kurt Warner's shiny clean jersey?

We don't have a chance unless Capers grows some balls. Arizona is bringing the heat...it is affecting us. We are letting Arizona do whatever they want.

You have seven months to whine about it after the game. What does Capers have to do with AR throwing a bad ball on the first play and then DD fumbling on the next series? Besides nothing.

All I see are a bunch of whining, sniveling crybabies who wear emotion on their sleeve with their head up their ass.

If you want to quit before the game's over, that's up to you. The Packers aren't going to quit but you negative pukes can take a walk.


talking, talking, talking, but sure aren't saying very much.... You rah, rah... yeah. Ok.

[GrnBay007]

I can't believe how many negative fucks are on here. Game isn't over by a long shot. Have some faith.

No one said the playoffs were easy and if you thought this would be easy you're a dumbass.

Game far from over.

No kidding! Only down by 14 and a whole half left to play! They can do it.

You are forgetting 4>12.

:lol:

[Freak Out]

You packer fans are fugging hilarious!

All doom and gloom after drinking all that kool-aid. Try the purple stuff next time!



Go back to you're ditch digging. :lol: :lol:

[digitaldean]

Both turnovers were inexcusable. DD is a veteran and knows better about ball possession. A-Rod's pick looked like a harried rookie mistake. Plus a botched long FG attempt with a shaky kicker. Even with an overall poor D performance, this'd be an even game.

If you shoot yourself in the foot in the playoffs, you will lose. Look at Hollywood Brady today. The Ravens D brought it to him and his picks/fumbles cost NE big time.

[bobblehead]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

You're not in the minority, I think Bigby is freaking horrible, and I always have. We cut our starting safety Anthony Smith.

go read the 8 pages of bigby love. you're misinformed. he's a probowler. Smith isn't worth a crap. :roll:

Yea, smith made such an impact this year, can't believe we let him go. Look, we have one problem with out D right now, we lost so many DBacks that JBush is trying to cover people.

Is Bigby responsible for the ARod pick or the ensuing fumble? Cuz without those 2 things we gave up 10 points.

People are laughable. First you all argue that the D becoming studly since Bigby came back had nothing to do with bigby, but now no matter what goes wrong with the D, its all Bigby's fault.

[esoxx]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

[Deputy Nutz]

"He came back for another shot in the playoffs."

[Freak Out]

Lets go Packers! I gave up a nice afternoon of skiing for this. :lol:

[retailguy]

did you see bigbys pathetic tackle attempt on the 25 yard run to the left? it looks like he was fighting with his eyes closed. guy is a fucking liability. always has been, probably always will be...

[The Leaper]

How did we lose this game based on last week? Are you saying we need to lose in order to get our players motivated properly?

[BallHawk]

The only way we have a shot is if Capers came down at halftime and kicked every player on defense in the nuts. At least in Pittsburgh we got some pressure on Ben....

Also, we still have somewhat of a chance. I didn't realize the majority in this forum were a bunch of chicken littles.

[retailguy]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

[ND72]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

You're not in the minority, I think Bigby is freaking horrible, and I always have. We cut our starting safety Anthony Smith.

go read the 8 pages of bigby love. you're misinformed. he's a probowler. Smith isn't worth a crap. :roll:

Yea, smith made such an impact this year, can't believe we let him go. Look, we have one problem with out D right now, we lost so many DBacks that JBush is trying to cover people.

Is Bigby responsible for the ARod pick or the ensuing fumble? Cuz without those 2 things we gave up 10 points.

People are laughable. First you all argue that the D becoming studly since Bigby came back had nothing to do with bigby, but now no matter what goes wrong with the D, its all Bigby's fault.


Bigby can't cover a toddler running down the field.

[bobblehead]

You packer fans are fugging hilarious!

All doom and gloom after drinking all that kool-aid. Try the purple stuff next time!

wow, havne't seen you since we won like 7 of 8. Welcome back, though if we pull this out i reckon I won't see you again til we lose one.

[wist43]

Capers better work some magic so we have a chance here in the second half.

That shovel pass just killed me.....but this thing is far from over.

It shows a lack of aggressiveness...

As I said before... you punch me in the mouth... look the F out - not a matter of losing composure... simply a matter mano-o-mano.

M3 is a pussy by nature... or at least tries to show he is "composed", and that he won't lose his cool. Sometimes, you just got fight like there's no tomorrow... M3 doesn't have that in him...

Throw into the mix the inflexible Capers... who if his first gameplan doesn't work, we're screwed - and you have a recipe for 31-10 after the first possession of the 2nd half.

[Deputy Nutz]

I hope Nick Barnett stops all the ra-ra bullshit and starts tackling

[Bossman641]

Come on people. It's 2 scores. Packers need to come out, get a stop, and make it a 7 point game.

Try and stay positive for once. This is like every other game X 100 in terms of negativity.

[Jimx29]

On a positive note, i just got a good laugh out of the comcast/fisherman commercial

[wist43]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

I didn't mean in last weeks game...

I meant in last weeks preparation and game planning...

[Brandon494]

Come on people. It's 2 scores. Packers need to come out, get a stop, and make it a 7 point game.

Try and stay positive for once. This is like every other game X 100 in terms of negativity.

I know right, I hope our players don't have the same mindset.

[bobblehead]

Bush and Bigby; two guys I worried a good OC would expose. Bush is easy prey but today Bigby in space has been Bush Squared

I'm still not a big Bigby fan. He's an extreme liability in coverage. Neither he or Collins is very good in coverage. Collins at least is average...Bigby is poor.


I understand I'm in the minority but I still consider Bigby a below average starter. Me might be the best of the NFC North though per that scout.

In terms of pure starters....after our punter, I think he might be the next guy to upgrade

You're not in the minority, I think Bigby is freaking horrible, and I always have. We cut our starting safety Anthony Smith.

go read the 8 pages of bigby love. you're misinformed. he's a probowler. Smith isn't worth a crap. :roll:

Yea, smith made such an impact this year, can't believe we let him go. Look, we have one problem with out D right now, we lost so many DBacks that JBush is trying to cover people.

Is Bigby responsible for the ARod pick or the ensuing fumble? Cuz without those 2 things we gave up 10 points.

People are laughable. First you all argue that the D becoming studly since Bigby came back had nothing to do with bigby, but now no matter what goes wrong with the D, its all Bigby's fault.


Bigby can't cover a toddler running down the field.

You just gave me a great example of.....YOUR FUCKING OPINION WITH NO SPECIFICS!!

Oh well, guess I'll stay off this site for awhile, these over reactors are near intolerable.

[The Leaper]

I'm still watching...

But Green Bay needs to come out and look completely different from the 15:00 minute mark...or it will simply be a long, painful death.

[Bretsky]

we can still win this game; lots of time and possessions left

Room for error with turnovers is zero right now

and AROD can't miss TD throws

It was smart to take the 3; if we get nothing there we're screwed.

What was stupid was to let that clock run down so far

Great Kick by Crosby

LET'S GO DEFENSE !!!!!!

[ND72]

This game reminds me of the Vikings game in Lambeau. This second half is going to be a huge cock tease. We might even get to within 24-20, but we're never actually going to have the chance to move into the lead, or we'll do something to blow that opportunity just like Minnesota.

[esoxx]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

Yeah, my bad. Game's over.

This Packer team sucks donkey balls. What a disgrace. They weren't prepared for the game, the coaches suck and the players suck. It's incredible they even made the playoffs.

Packers should have laid down last week and they'd be kicking butt right now.

[mmmdk]

Packers must score 28 + in second half...to have a chance ! Damn, won't happen.

not the way things are going right now.

Our OL is horrible, our LB's have been exposed, and we have no answer for Breaston. Early Doucet? Who the fuck is Early Doucet, other than the guy matched up on bush?

Doucet > Bush and who not !

Had Packers punted twice instead of 2 turnovers - this would be a closer game.

McCoach and players were not ready for the speed and intensity of playoffs.

[The Leaper]

Ugh...DL just got pushed back 5 yards.

Not looking great so far.

[ND72]

Packer radio said Arizona is averaging 9.4 yards per play, while green bay is averagine 1.7.

[The Leaper]

Doucett owns Bush.

[wist43]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

M3 and Capers came out committed to playing chess, not football...

Last week they were aggressive... this week, "we'll throw em a curve ball and back off" :lol:

On the defensive side of the ball... Capers looks like a joke.

[digitaldean]

Virtually every WR vs. Bush has owned Bush (Seattle not included).

[Packers4Glory]

Doucett owns Bush.

who doesnt.

[Deputy Nutz]

You packer fans are fugging hilarious!

All doom and gloom after drinking all that kool-aid. Try the purple stuff next time!

wow, havne't seen you since we won like 7 of 8. Welcome back, though if we pull this out i reckon I won't see you again til we lose one.

Actually this is the first time I have had a chance to get on here. I ain't anti-packer, just sick of you fugging fuck-holes living in your fucked up reality.

In the last 7 to 8 weeks how many of you were touting MM and Capers as football geniuses only to go spouting off about them now if they were some drunkin high school coaches?

[The Leaper]

Packer radio said Arizona is averaging 9.4 yards per play, while green bay is averagine 1.7.

Yep.

Which is why the "we can still win this" crowd really isn't using their noodle.

We are getting our ass kicked.

[Packers4Ever]

I'm afeared my box of cookies isn't gonna last till the end of the half....


I just killed the last of mine :roll:
Sending out for a replacement....

[esoxx]

Doucett owns Bush.

Who doesn't own Bush.

[wist43]

Packer radio said Arizona is averaging 9.4 yards per play, while green bay is averagine 1.7.

See, we're winning the chess match... Arizona never expected that :lol:

[retailguy]

Packer radio said Arizona is averaging 9.4 yards per play, while green bay is averagine 1.7.

very telling stat right there. we have no answer for anything that AZ is doing, on EITHER side of the ball. We are unprepared. 15 minutes at halftime won't change anything.

[digitaldean]

This looking like the first half.

[mmmdk]

Doucett owns Bush.

Who's Doucett? You mean Doucet!? :lol:

[green_bowl_packer]

Beanies a fumbler hopefully he can put one down

[Brohm]

D still has nothing :evil:

[Packers4Glory]

well it don't look like the defense is going to show up this half either.

[Kiwon]

The Packers need to blitz more...... :wink:

[mmmdk]

Damnit...Cards will score 3 or 7 if no turnover.

[KYPack]

I guess we need to blitz on running plays, too.

[green_bowl_packer]

Did Fitzgerald have a chance at that anyhow?

[red]

man there's no way he would have caught that

[retailguy]

This looking like the first half.

gee that's a shock. :wink:

[wist43]

D still has nothing :evil:

No... as I said, Capers is very reluctant to believe his week long film study is deceiving his lying eyes on game day...

He won't change... If Arizona doesn't score over 50 pts... it is shame on them.

[The Leaper]

This looking like the first half.

No shit sherlock.

We have about 1% of winning this game...if someone pulls a mid-80s Packer specialty and body slams Kurt Warner.

Since that won't happen...the game is over.

[Brohm]

Well there yah go. Noting in the middle after CW falls down. Where's the help?

[ND72]

that's the ball game folks.

[Packers4Glory]

there is the game. first series of the 3rd Qt.

[digitaldean]

So much for the D setting the tone this half.

Twinkie D is back again.

[retailguy]

I guess we need to blitz on running plays, too.

we should just send all 11 guys. that'll work. I'm confident.

[The Leaper]

Glad we kicked that FG.

[wist43]

The Packers need to blitz more...... :wink:

Ya think, lol :lol:

[Deputy Nutz]

You packer fans are fugging hilarious!

All doom and gloom after drinking all that kool-aid. Try the purple stuff next time!

wow, havne't seen you since we won like 7 of 8. Welcome back, though if we pull this out i reckon I won't see you again til we lose one.

[Brandon494]

Well shit, I guess this game is over.

I didn't expect our defense to play this damn bad, jesus.

[wist43]

Glad we kicked that FG.

Surely you need to be sent for a drug test :lol:

[retailguy]

that's the ball game folks.

NO, NO, WAIT. We can still win, We're only down by 21! Just 3 woodson interceptions and we're back in it.

All you negative pussy's can just fuck off! :roll:

[Kiwon]

What is Woodson doing?

A terrible penalty and then getting knocked out of the play!

[red]

that fg was like a fart in the wind

[ND72]

Well there yah go. Noting in the middle after CW falls down. Where's the help?


There is no help. Capers is bringing 4 guys, dropping 2 deep man under, and all of their bunch sets and crossign patterns have NO CHANCE of being covered in a man to man defense. I'm only a HS JV Defensive coach, but I know that if a team runs crossing patterns, you can't be in a man to man defense.

[esoxx]

Glad we kicked that FG.

Yes, damn me to hell for having some hope.

Dumbass indeed.

[Brohm]

Well, got all off-season to get the ATM taste out of their mouths.

[Brandon494]

Glad we kicked that FG.

yea since 4 points really makes a difference we our defense can't stop Arizona to save their life.

[The Leaper]

Who's Doucett? You mean Doucet!? :lol:

He's running so fast through our secondary, I can't read his name.

[Packers4Ever]

Why is Bush still on the field? No brains.


Perhaps his presence is essential to the team ?? :twisted:

[Deputy Nutz]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

Yeah, my bad. Game's over.

This Packer team sucks donkey balls. What a disgrace. They weren't prepared for the game, the coaches suck and the players suck. It's incredible they even made the playoffs.

Packers should have laid down last week and they'd be kicking butt right now.

Is it over now?

[Freak Out]

The pain........

[mmmdk]

Damnit...Cards will score 3 or 7 if no turnover.

7 it was !

How deluded of me to predict a Packer win today...really! Cards are way better and not just today!

Till next season. 8-)

[retailguy]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

Yeah, my bad. Game's over.

This Packer team sucks donkey balls. What a disgrace. They weren't prepared for the game, the coaches suck and the players suck. It's incredible they even made the playoffs.

Packers should have laid down last week and they'd be kicking butt right now.

Is it over now?

No. AZ still has time for 3 more TD's. You think they won't run up the score after last week?

50-10 is my prediction at this point.

[Kiwon]

Okay, we've got this now.....only down by 21 points in the 3rd quarter.

There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home....(Ruby slippers clicking)..... :roll:

[Brohm]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

Yeah, my bad. Game's over.

This Packer team sucks donkey balls. What a disgrace. They weren't prepared for the game, the coaches suck and the players suck. It's incredible they even made the playoffs.

Packers should have laid down last week and they'd be kicking butt right now.

Is it over now?

No. AZ still has time for 3 more TD's. You think they won't run up the score after last week?

50-10 is my prediction at this point.

Yah, true or not, they are taking this as a payback game. They won't let up.

[red]

williams is already doing better then nelson on the returns and all he did was kneel down

[retailguy]

Okay, we've got this now.....only down by 21 points in the 3rd quarter.

There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home....(Ruby slippers clicking)..... :roll:

pray harder damnit. channel some of that BIGBY pro bowl mentality!

[esoxx]

This game was lost by M3 and Capers last week...




Are you for real? You can't be this dumb.

AZ doesn't look like they're playing pissed? Cmon. look in the mirror. Last week had a HUGE impact on this.

Yeah, my bad. Game's over.

This Packer team sucks donkey balls. What a disgrace. They weren't prepared for the game, the coaches suck and the players suck. It's incredible they even made the playoffs.

Packers should have laid down last week and they'd be kicking butt right now.

Is it over now?

Not looking too good is it.

What's odd is I wasn't one of these ball licking fans that thought this would be a walk in the park. Like you, I see people giving props like they're all that and can do no wrong. Then when they're some adversity they jump ship like a rat from a burning ship.

I'm not naive. Yeah, we're in big time trouble here. Point is, and remains, have seven months to cry about this loss if it happens. Still game to be played.

[The Leaper]

Hopefully this team tanks next year...and we have a chance to land a coach with a nutsack and some offensive or defensive genius.

MM is mediocre...and the Packers are mediocre whenever there is a big game as a result. With our offensive talent, we should have people getting open...Rodgers has had several scrambles where he had 5+ seconds to throw the ball, and no one has been open?

[mmmdk]

Well, I am an Arizonian [born in Phoenix] living in Euro land and the only comfort in this loss is that I won't sob so much as it's the one team [Cards] I can handle losing to...as well as can be expected.

[The Leaper]

williams is already doing better then nelson on the returns and all he did was kneel down

He's just smart.

He doesn't want to run out and get gang tackled by 8 people.

[Kiwon]

Okay, we've got this now.....only down by 21 points in the 3rd quarter.

There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home....(Ruby slippers clicking)..... :roll:

pray harder damnit. channel some of that BIGBY pro bowl mentality!

I'd settle for some batted passes or incompletes on Warner's part.

By the way, do the Cards have a punter? Hadn't seen him.

[KYPack]

What is the difference between our offense and a bag of dog shit?