O'Brien Schofield

[Joemailman]

I've seen this guy rated anywhere from a 2nd Round value to a 7th Round value. I suspect those who do not rate him highly feel he is too small to play DE in a 4-3, and too slow to play OLB. He would seem to be a guy the Packers might be interested if he were available after the 2nd Round.

Just wondering what those of you familiar with Badger football think of the guy.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've seen this guy rated anywhere from a 2nd Round value to a 7th Round value. I suspect those who do not rate him highly feel he is too small to play DE in a 4-3, and too slow to play OLB. He would seem to be a guy the Packers might be interested if he were available after the 2nd Round.

Just wondering what those of you familiar with Badger football think of the guy.

He is already practicing at OLB at the Shrine game.

He isn't too slow to play OLB..it is more the Kampy thing. Lateral movement, stiffness, learning to play the position...he has already been noted for bad angles, etc.

The league is moving to 3-4 and that helps him as more guys needed like him. He is by far way to small to play in a 4-3..and adding weight is going to sap of his one great strength..speed and quickness.

He is the classic Wisco tweener...meet Tom Burke, meet Tarek Saleh, meet OB.

[The Leaper]

To me, he's a good guy to take a flyer on...maybe 6th round? Anything before the 5th would be a huge reach IMO. The kid has a lot of learning to do to be successful at the next level. However, as a special team player who could serve some purpose as a situational pass rusher down the road, he's draftable.

[Fosco33]

Bobby Engram and Vonnie Holiday's cousin =

bring him in!

I'm a Badger homer but he seems like he's got the work ethic and athleticism to be a decent OLB/ST option. He's pretty quick (mid 4.0's) and gets to the ball (2nd in NCAA in TFL).

It also looks like some other quality drafters (Patriots) are looking at him in the shrine game.

But as with many other great Badgers, he won't be drafted by GB... I hope he does well in the NFL.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

To me, he's a good guy to take a flyer on...maybe 6th round? Anything before the 5th would be a huge reach IMO. The kid has a lot of learning to do to be successful at the next level. However, as a special team player who could serve some purpose as a situational pass rusher down the road, he's draftable.

Ty thinks you are way underrating OB. Especially considering he that he was according to this report the best player on the east squad.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20100120?sub_id=Dgf5sBAvwSyGA&folio=CGI#pg5

"schofield was easily the best player on the East team. Considering he played defensive end in college, he really helped himself by performing so well in a standup position. He showed very good quickness and the speed to cover tight ends in man coverage. He showed very good hips while turning and running with his man off the line. He played with excellent knee bend and leverage."

BTW, congrats to Matt Shaughnessy....all rookie team. To bad he is stuck on da raiduhs.

[Fritz]

But what's his first name?

[Joemailman]

O.

[Willard]

To me, he's a good guy to take a flyer on...maybe 6th round? Anything before the 5th would be a huge reach IMO. The kid has a lot of learning to do to be successful at the next level. However, as a special team player who could serve some purpose as a situational pass rusher down the road, he's draftable.

Ty thinks you are way underrating OB. Especially considering he that he was according to this report the best player on the east squad.
I agree. He seems like a playmaker. He seemed to have numerous tackles for loss and/or sacks everytime I watched the Badgers.

[The Leaper]

I just don't like the kid as much as some. Making plays in the Big Ten really doesn't impress me much. Plenty of Big Ten LBs look like Tarzan in the Big Ten...and look like Jane with the Packers. Hawk made far more plays in his college career...and is a more impressive overall athlete...and most of you wish we could get rid of him.

I think he will probably be taken in the 3rd-4th round range...and that is too early IMO. Time will tell.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I just don't like the kid as much as some. Making plays in the Big Ten really doesn't impress me much. Plenty of Big Ten LBs look like Tarzan in the Big Ten...and look like Jane with the Packers. Hawk made far more plays in his college career...and is a more impressive overall athlete...and most of you wish we could get rid of him.

I think he will probably be taken in the 3rd-4th round range...and that is too early IMO. Time will tell.

You have a point, but there are still some good big ten LBs.

Hawk more impressive athlete? Really? Don't know about that. More impressive football player, maybe. More impressive athlete? Hmm. More hyped outta OSU, that is for sure.

More importantly, why are you talking about Big Ten LBs? OB wasn't one..so it really has no bearing on him. :oops:

[Fritz]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

[sharpe1027]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

Or that Tarzan never once played football?

[denverYooper]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

Or that Tarzan never once played football?

He was a hell of a swimmer, though.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

She was ok, but cheetah was a monster. Don't know if he could play in space though.

[Joemailman]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

Great receiver. She could snatch the ball out of the air with the best of them.

[Joemailman]

Back to O'Brien Schofield...

Apparently, not everyone was impressed with him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12814898/risers-and-fallers-from-eastwest-shrine-practices

OLB O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
The first-team All-Big Ten pick popped off film this season but couldn't make much headway as a linebacker or defensive end in practices this week. He was trying to learn the linebacker position on the fly, but looked stiff and slow in his drops and in coverage. In one-on-one pass rush drills, he couldn't stay off the ground when trying to beat Saffold or Scott with his speed.

[denverYooper]

Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Jane was a kick ass football player?

Great receiver. She could snatch the ball out of the air with the best of them.

The knock on her coming out wasn't her ball skills though. It was her ability to separate.

[Willard]

Back to O'Brien Schofield...

Apparently, not everyone was impressed with him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12814898/risers-and-fallers-from-eastwest-shrine-practices

OLB O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
The first-team All-Big Ten pick popped off film this season but couldn't make much headway as a linebacker or defensive end in practices this week. He was trying to learn the linebacker position on the fly, but looked stiff and slow in his drops and in coverage. In one-on-one pass rush drills, he couldn't stay off the ground when trying to beat Saffold or Scott with his speed.
Then again somebody was impressed with him:
Schofield named defensive MVP in Shrine Game

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012310aaa.html

[Bretsky]

TOUGH TOUGH BREAK FOR THE BADGER

OUCH

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/82643092.html

Sounds like a torn ACL

[Brando19]

TOUGH TOUGH BREAK FOR THE BADGER

OUCH

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/82643092.html

Sounds like a torn ACL

That is terrible for the kid. Maybe now we can get him in the later rounds.

[Harlan Huckleby]

oh no, another Erasmus James story

[Joemailman]

Darn, now I feel guilty about starting this thread. Maybe the Packers take him late and put him on PUP until he is ready to play.

[pbmax]

Back to O'Brien Schofield...

Apparently, not everyone was impressed with him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12814898/risers-and-fallers-from-eastwest-shrine-practices

OLB O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
The first-team All-Big Ten pick popped off film this season but couldn't make much headway as a linebacker or defensive end in practices this week. He was trying to learn the linebacker position on the fly, but looked stiff and slow in his drops and in coverage. In one-on-one pass rush drills, he couldn't stay off the ground when trying to beat Saffold or Scott with his speed.
They must have been after the game. He was named Defensive MVP.

OK, I was late on that post but unfortunately the JSO Blog has Schofield out with a torn ACL.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/82648292.html

There is video. Its at 5:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ODX2ZCEZvg&feature=player_embedded

[BF4MVP]

Ouch. He's a good football player. Hope he gets healthy, gets a chance, and sticks on a roster somewhere..

[Fosco33]

Man that really sucks. String of bad luck - casillas, Ike and now OB.

He'll prob be a 6th/7th of undrafted FA. Some team will get lucky with him on PS for a year.

[pbmax]

The last piece I read on him had him between the 2nd and 3rd round. But that was pre-injury. Here's hoping to a full recovery.

[Fritz]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???

[mraynrand]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???

The shit would hit the fan

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/harreldump.jpg

[MadScientist]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???
A hell of a lot if TT picks him up in the first round. If it's a 7th, none at all, because its obvious he's taking a gamble on injured talent, probably for 2011.
Of course if TT passes on the next Taucher or Driver to get him there will still be some (somewhat deserved) criticism.

[Fritz]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???

The shit would hit the fan

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/harreldump.jpg


Or at least the laundry basket.

[Smidgeon]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???
A hell of a lot if TT picks him up in the first round. If it's a 7th, none at all, because its obvious he's taking a gamble on injured talent, probably for 2011.
Of course if TT passes on the next Taucher or Driver to get him there will still be some (somewhat deserved) criticism.

He'll only take heat for missing on a 7th rounder (or a low 2nd - 6th) if someone admits they were thinking about that player. Public knowledge on a player's ability and where he should get drafted ends after the first part of the second round. After that, especially in the latter rounds, there's no heat on a GM unless none of his picks pan out because all 31 other teams have passed on that same player as many as 7 or 8 times by that point. GMs seem to take more heat for missing a player in the 1st round than they do for missing in the late rounds.

[MadScientist]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???
A hell of a lot if TT picks him up in the first round. If it's a 7th, none at all, because its obvious he's taking a gamble on injured talent, probably for 2011.
Of course if TT passes on the next Taucher or Driver to get him there will still be some (somewhat deserved) criticism.

He'll only take heat for missing on a 7th rounder (or a low 2nd - 6th) if someone admits they were thinking about that player. Public knowledge on a player's ability and where he should get drafted ends after the first part of the second round. After that, especially in the latter rounds, there's no heat on a GM unless none of his picks pan out because all 31 other teams have passed on that same player as many as 7 or 8 times by that point. GMs seem to take more heat for missing a player in the 1st round than they do for missing in the late rounds.
Agreed. Everyone had their chances to pick the rare 7th round stud and missed. There will of course be some complaints anyway. Nothing will stop fans from wishing the Packers got the true best player at each round.

[pbmax]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???
Didn't we have a poster who insisted that "EVERYONE KNOWS" you never take a college guy who has had two major injuries? Mr. Poster said it was all Ted's Ego that caused him to ignore a rule of college personnel that scouts learn on their first day on the job.

So by hi logic, there are no problems for O'Brien.

[Bretsky]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???


he's no Justine !

[Bretsky]

Those Wisconsinners advocating for "someone" to pick this guy late and put him on the PUP or IR, if say the Packers did that, and the next year the guy got hurt, how much hate would rain down on TT for picking an injury prone guy???
Didn't we have a poster who insisted that "EVERYONE KNOWS" you never take a college guy who has had two major injuries? Mr. Poster said it was all Ted's Ego that caused him to ignore a rule of college personnel that scouts learn on their first day on the job.

So by hi logic, there are no problems for O'Brien.


Man, you have a good memory as I don't recall who that was

Hey, how about my favorite Meachem !!!

Meachem..Super Bowl :!: