2009 Special Team Rankings out

[CaptainD]

Yearly rankings are out and it's not pretty packer fans :



By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News
rgosselin@dallasnews.com

The football axiom is offense, defense and special teams each account for a third of the game.

But in Cleveland, special teams accounted for at least two-thirds of what made the Browns tick in 2009.

The Browns finished 32nd in the NFL in offense and 31st in defense but still managed to win five games. That's because Cleveland fielded the league's best special teams, according to rankings compiled annually by The Dallas Morning News.

The league's 32 teams are ranked in 22 categories and assigned points according to their standing – one for the best, 32 for the worst. The Browns finished first in special teams with a composite score of 215.5 – a whopping 41 points better than runner-up Tampa Bay.

Four division winners finished in the top 10 in special teams: No. 4 Dallas, No. 7 San Diego, No. 8 Arizona and No. 9 Minnesota. The New Orleans Saints finished 29th – the worst ranking ever for a Super Bowl champion.

Cleveland's Brad Seely has worked this magic before in the kicking game. He was special teams coach of the top-ranked Indianapolis Colts in 1992, then won three Super Bowl rings with the New England Patriots this decade before joining the Browns in 2009.

"It's an attitude," Seely said. "It's guys taking pride in what you're doing and wanting to be good – feeling like they can be a positive factor in a football game.

"We've always stressed that wherever I've been – special teams can help us win games. It's a tangible thing ... a belief that we can be the best at what we do this year."

Cleveland won only one of its first 12 games, defeating Buffalo, 6-3, on a pair of field goals by Billy Cundiff. Cleveland's Blake Costanzo recovered a fumbled punt by Roscoe Parrish at the Buffalo 17 late in the game to set up the winning field goal.

In victory No. 2, a 13-6 win over Pittsburgh in December, Josh Cribbs returned a punt 55 yards to set up the first field goal of the game. Meanwhile, punter Reggie Hodges pinned the Steelers inside their own 15 with four punts to tilt the field in Cleveland's favor all night.

In a 41-34 win over Kansas City for victory No. 3, the Browns got kickoff returns of 103 and 100 yards for touchdowns by Cribbs. Phil Dawson then kicked three field goals each in season-ending victories over Oakland (23-9) and Jacksonville (23-17).

"You always talk about the hidden yardage on special teams," Seely said. "But this [season] was a case where the yards weren't so hidden. Our special teams were a factor in games, and everybody could see it."

The best player on the Browns was Cribbs, who was selected to the Pro Bowl as the AFC kick returner. He ran back three kickoffs and one punt for touchdowns in 2009 and finished among the team's leading kick-coverage players with nine tackles. Cribbs also started at receiver and took quarterback snaps in the Wildcat formation.

The Browns finished first in four of the 22 special teams categories, including kickoff coverage and points scored. Cleveland finished in the top five in seven other categories and the top 10 in two more.

The Cowboys hired Joe DeCamillis as special teams coach last year and made the biggest leap in the rankings – 23 spots. The Cowboys climbed from 27th in 2008 to fourth this season.

rgosselin@dallasnews.com

TEAM RANKINGS

The NFL's 32 teams are ranked in 22 kicking-game categories and assigned points according to their standing in each category (one for the best through 32 for the worst). This is a composite score for those categories:

Rk. Team Points
1. Cleveland 215.5
2. Tampa Bay 256.5
3. Buffalo 274
4. Cowboys 288
5. NY Jets 296.5
6. Chicago 302
7. San Diego 320
8. Arizona 320.5
9. Minnesota 325.5
10. Miami 327.5
11. Seattle 330
12. Kansas City 341
13. Oakland 342.5
14. Atlanta 357
15. Pittsburgh 360.5
16. New England 361.5
17. Philadelphia 367.5
18. Baltimore 369
18. St. Louis 369
20. NY Giants 384
21. San Francisco 391
22. Houston 394.5
23. Cincinnati 397
24. Denver 402
25. Detroit 413.5
26. Tennessee 424
27. Washington 426.5
28. Indianapolis 432.5
29. New Orleans 441.5
30. Jacksonville 452
31. Green Bay 460.5
32. Carolina 473

KICKOFF RETURNS

Best: Baltimore, 26.2 yards

Worst: Oakland, 18.2 yards

Cowboys: 20th, 22.0 yards

PUNT RETURNS

Best: Philadelphia, 13.5 yards

Worst: San Francisco, 4.4 yards

Cowboys: 6th, 10.9 yards

KICKOFF COVERAGE

Best: Cleveland, 18.9 yards

Worst: Oakland, 25.7 yards

Cowboys: 7th, 20.6 yards

PUNT COVERAGE

Best: Jacksonville, 4.2 yards

Worst: New Orleans, 14.3 yards

Cowboys: 15th, 8.3 yards

STARTING POINT

Best: Cleveland, 31.4-yard line

Worst: Oakland, 22.8-yard line

Cowboys: 27th, 24.7-yard line

OPP. STARTING POINT

Best: Atlanta, 21.4-yard line

Worst: Pittsburgh, 31.3-yard line

Cowboys: 2nd, 22.8-yard line

PUNTING

Best: Oakland, 51.1 yards

Worst: New England, 39.0 yards

Cowboys: 8th, 45.1 yards

NET PUNTING

Best: Oakland, 43.9 yards

Worst: New England, 34.0 yards

Cowboys: 7th, 39.9 yards

INSIDE-THE-20 PUNTS

Best: Arizona, 42

Worst: Green Bay, 15

Cowboys: 4th, 38

OPP. PUNTING

Best: Buffalo, 41.2 yards

Worst: Seattle, 47.2 yards

Cowboys: 22nd, 44.3 yards

OPP. NET PUNTING

Best: Cincinnati, 35.2 yards

Worst: Seattle, 41.5 yards

Cowboys: 13th, 37.8 yards

FIELD GOALS

Best: Philadelphia and San Diego, 32

Worst: Indianapolis and Tampa Bay, 16

Cowboys: 25th, 20

FG PERCENTAGE

Best: Arizona, 94.7 percent

Worst: Tampa Bay, 61.5 percent

Cowboys: 30th, 64.5 percent

OPP. FG PCT.

Best: Dallas, 69.2 percent

Worst: Denver, 93.5 percent

Cowboys: 1st

EXTRA POINT PCT.

Best: 16 teams tied at 100 percent

Worst: Washington, 92.8 percent

Cowboys: Tied for 1st

POINTS SCORED

Best: Cleveland, 24

Worst: 10 teams tied with 0

Cowboys: Tied for 5th, 12

POINTS ALLOWED

Best: 9 teams tied with 0

Worst: Pittsburgh, 30

Cowboys: Tied for 10th, 6

BLOCKED KICKS FOR

Best: Tampa Bay, 6

Worst: 9 teams tied with 0

Cowboys: Tied for 6th, 2

BLOCKED KICKS AGAINST

Best: 8 teams tied with 0

Worst: Carolina, 4

Cowboys: Tied for 1st

TAKEAWAYS

Best: Oakland, 5

Worst: 5 teams tied with 0

Cowboys: Tied for 28th with 0

GIVEAWAYS

Best: 4 teams tied with 0

Worst: Washington, 5

Cowboys: Tied for 15th with 2

PENALTIES

Best: Atlanta, 6

Worst: Green Bay, 28

Cowboys: 6th, 13
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[esoxx]

It would help to have a punter that's actually of NFL caliber.

[Patler]

Yearly rankings are out and it's not pretty packer fans :



By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News
rgosselin@dallasnews.com

The NFL's 32 teams are ranked in 22 kicking-game categories and assigned points according to their standing in each category (one for the best through 32 for the worst). This is a composite score for those categories:

Rk. Team Points
1. Cleveland 215.5
...
31. Green Bay 460.5
32. Carolina 473

...
PENALTIES
Worst: Green Bay, 28


Gee, I'm glad the Packers made no changes in their staff! :roll:

[Joemailman]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.

[pbmax]

Yearly rankings are out and it's not pretty packer fans :



By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News
rgosselin@dallasnews.com

The NFL's 32 teams are ranked in 22 kicking-game categories and assigned points according to their standing in each category (one for the best through 32 for the worst). This is a composite score for those categories:

Rk. Team Points
1. Cleveland 215.5
...
31. Green Bay 460.5
32. Carolina 473

...
PENALTIES
Worst: Green Bay, 28


Gee, I'm glad the Packers made no changes in their staff! :roll:
Penalties go beyond the ST coach. Its McCarthy's approach of encouraging physical play by not bemoaning what he calls combative penalties. And most of those (if not all) were during the course of a return or coverage.

I do not understand how someone who values field position and down and distance circumstances can have that posture, but he clearly learned this approach to aggressive play from Schottenheimer and Haslett.

[pbmax]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.
Football Outsiders calculates that Special Teams are about 1/7 of the complete game; much smaller a component than offense or defense. But that argues for limiting your overall investment; it doesn't mean that they have to perform like their heads have been separated from their bodies. I'd be fine with mediocre and consistent.

[CaptainKickass]

The Browns would have nowhere near the ranking they got without Josh "MTV" Cribbs.

The Packers obviously need to step it up on ST.

[red]

well we all just got proof for something we all pretty much knew

our special teams blew and slocum shouldn't have a job

[Patler]

GB's ST penalties:

SPECIAL TEAMS (30)
12 players on field (1) — Team at Cle (Oct. 25)

Delay of Game (1) — J.Kapinos at Det (Nov. 26)

Facemask (2) — D.Bishop vs. Det (Oct. 18);
B.Underwood vs. Sea (Dec. 27)

False start (3) — J.Bush twice vs. Cin (Sept. 20);
at Chi (Dec. 13)

Holding (14) — C.Matthews vs. Chi (Sept. 13);
D.Bishop vs. Cin (Sept. 20); J.Kuhn vs. Cin
(Sept. 20); J.Bush at StL (Sept. 27); B.Jones
at StL (Sept. 27); E.Dietrich-Smith at Min (Oct.
5), vs. Det (Oct. 18); S.Havner at Min (Oct. 5);
M.Montgomery vs. Det (Oct. 18); B.Poppinga
vs. Min (Nov. 1); B.Underwood at TB (Nov.
8); D.Martin vs. SF (Nov. 22), at Pit (Dec. 20);
C.Obiozor vs. Bal (Dec. 7)

Horse Collar (1) — B.Jackson vs. Sea (Dec. 27)

Illegal block above the waist (4) — D.Martin
vs. Dal (Nov. 15); J.Wynn vs. SF (Nov. 22);
Q.Johnson at Det (Nov. 26); A.Bigby at Det
(Nov. 26)

Ineligible Downfield (1) — S.Havner vs. Cin
(Sept. 20)

Neutral Zone Infraction (1) — M.Montgomery
vs. Min (Nov. 1)

Personal foul (1) — B.Poppinga vs. Det (Oct. 18)

Unnecessary Roughness (1) — B.Poppinga at
Det (Nov. 26)

[mission]

how the hell does slocum have a job?!

[Joemailman]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.
Football Outsiders calculates that Special Teams are about 1/7 of the complete game; much smaller a component than offense or defense. But that argues for limiting your overall investment; it doesn't mean that they have to perform like their heads have been separated from their bodies. I'd be fine with mediocre and consistent.

I think the holding calls are the main problem. More often than not, a holding call on a kickoff return results in a drive starting around the 10 yard line. Reducing these should be priority #1.

[KYPack]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.
Football Outsiders calculates that Special Teams are about 1/7 of the complete game; much smaller a component than offense or defense. But that argues for limiting your overall investment; it doesn't mean that they have to perform like their heads have been separated from their bodies. I'd be fine with mediocre and consistent.

FO ranked us 32nd, er, like, dead last in ST.

Thank God that's only 1/7th of the total effort, eh?

We kinda need a PR, a KR, & one of those punter guys.

[pbmax]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.
Football Outsiders calculates that Special Teams are about 1/7 of the complete game; much smaller a component than offense or defense. But that argues for limiting your overall investment; it doesn't mean that they have to perform like their heads have been separated from their bodies. I'd be fine with mediocre and consistent.

FO ranked us 32nd, er, like, dead last in ST.

Thank God that's only 1/7th of the total effort, eh?

We kinda need a PR, a KR, & one of those punter guys.
Please tell me you submitted your application?

For coach, not as player. We can't expect you to carry the team. :lol:

[Patler]

An interesting comment from the GBPG on the Packers ranking:


The ranking isn't an anomaly either. The Packers finished dead last in 2005 and 2006, rebounded to tie for seventh in 2007 and then fell back to 26th in 2008, after which former coordinator Mike Stock was pushed into retirement and Slocum promoted to replace him.

In 15 previous years of the rankings (1990 to 2004), the Packers never had finished worse than 25th and they ranked in the top 10 seven times.

[Fritz]

Well, whoever wished for "mediocre and consistent" got half his wish.

This special teams unit has been consistent for the past five or six years.

Consistently bad, of course.

Looks like holding is the main problem.

And the punter. I thought Krapinos specialized in dropping them inside the 20. Or was that Frost?

[pbmax]

An interesting comment from the GBPG on the Packers ranking:


The ranking isn't an anomaly either. The Packers finished dead last in 2005 and 2006, rebounded to tie for seventh in 2007 and then fell back to 26th in 2008, after which former coordinator Mike Stock was pushed into retirement and Slocum promoted to replace him.

In 15 previous years of the rankings (1990 to 2004), the Packers never had finished worse than 25th and they ranked in the top 10 seven times.
I think its time to re-evaluate the punter acquisition strategy.

And its time someone told the Special Teams coach you are not going to get a bigger part of the budget (except for the new punter) so its time to stop worrying about kicking consultants and get Crosby some professional help.

And to Fritz: If I knew I only got one of my choices, it would have been mediocre over consistent.

[Packers4Ever]

I'm not happy about 31st, but a lot of the top teams on the list were among the worst teams in the league. Are we possibly making too big a deal about this? The 2 Super Bowl teams ranked 28th and 29th.
Football Outsiders calculates that Special Teams are about 1/7 of the complete game; much smaller a component than offense or defense. But that argues for limiting your overall investment; it doesn't mean that they have to perform like their heads have been separated from their bodies. I'd be fine with mediocre and consistent.

FO ranked us 32nd, er, like, dead last in ST.

Thank God that's only 1/7th of the total effort, eh?

We kinda need a PR, a KR, & one of those punter guys.
Please tell me you submitted your application?

For coach, not as player. We can't expect you to carry the team. :lol:



Problem solved! Between the 2 of you, both coach and team

are covered, right ?? :P

[Fritz]

I'll take KY over Slocum and Stock any day.

But only if he wears that white Colonel outfit on the sidelines.

[pbmax]

I'll take KY over Slocum and Stock any day.

But only if he wears that white Colonel outfit on the sidelines.
I would buy a bucket just to see that. Do you think Nike would make the Colonel outfit? :lol: