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mission
03-25-2010, 10:08 AM
(this never happened)

RashanGary
03-25-2010, 11:11 AM
I had Eagles, you had Ravens. I put my pick in early. I like Tyson Alualu alot, so I took him with the Eagles pick.

packrulz
03-25-2010, 02:28 PM
With 30 votes in, and the 2010 Packerrats consensus pick is Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers. Thanks for voting. mission is on the clock...


Good to see Tom Braatz is our GM again :lol: j/k

Good one Bretsky!

mission
03-25-2010, 02:53 PM
I had Eagles, you had Ravens. I put my pick in early. I like Tyson Alualu alot, so I took him with the Eagles pick.

Oh -- that one confused me... well scratch that.

Just about everyone is picking Jermaine Gresham for the Ravens here so I think I'll take Kyle Wilson :D

packrulz
03-25-2010, 03:09 PM
Arizona lost Rolle and Boldin so they need to look at WR & safety, they'll try to get Taylor Mays to reach his potential. red is on the clock...

packrulz
03-25-2010, 03:18 PM
1 St. Louis(packrulz)= Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma.
2 Detroit(Fritz)= Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska.
3 Tampa Bay(red)= Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma.
4 Washington(3irty1)= Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame.
5 Kansas City(Lurker64)= Eric Berry, S, Tennessee.
6 Seattle(gbpackfan)=Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State.
7 Cleveland(pbmax)=Joe Hayden, CB, Florida
8 Oakland(Freak Out)=Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
9 Buffalo(ND72)=Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
10 Jacksonville(bobblehead)=Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
11 Denver (from Chicago) (Lost coin toss vs. Jaguars)(jmbarnes101)=Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
12 Miami(Charles Woodson)=Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
13 San Francisco (Lost coin toss vs. Titans)(Brandon494)=C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
14 Seattle (from Denver)(gbpackfan)=Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
15 N.Y. Giants(red)=Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
16 Tennessee(mazzin)=Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
17 San Francisco (from Carolina)(Brandon494)=Earl Thomas, CB/S, Texas
18 Pittsburgh(swede)=Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
19 Atlanta(mission)=Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
20 Houston (Lost coin toss vs. Falcons)(Lurker64)=Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
21 Cincinnati(joemailman)=Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa
22 New England(joemailman)=Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
23 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers
24 Philadelphia(Justin Harrell)=Tyson Alualu, DE, Cal
25 Baltimore(mission)=Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
26 Arizona(packrulz)=Taylor Mays, FS, So. Cal.
27 Dallas(red)=
28 San Diego(mazzin)=
29 N.Y. Jets(swede)=
30 Minnesota(mngolf19)=
31 Indianapolis(Brandon494)=
32 New Orleans(Bretsky)=

red
03-25-2010, 03:25 PM
cowgirls need an infusion of youth on their o-line, bigtime. both of their tackles are getting long in the tooth

dallas takes Charles brown, OT from USC

packrulz
03-25-2010, 04:13 PM
mazzin is on the clock...

The Shadow
03-25-2010, 08:18 PM
Just finished watching tape of Brandon Graham.
He'd look good at the other OLB spot.

Brandon494
03-25-2010, 08:28 PM
Just finished watching tape of Brandon Graham.
He'd look good at the other OLB spot.

But can he cover?

I like Hughes and Kindle over Graham. I just think Graham is better suited for a 4-3 defense rather than a 3-4.

Brandon494
03-25-2010, 10:32 PM
mazzin is on the clock...

Mazzin
03-25-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm sure the bolts will be looking running back here, but with Spiller, and Matthews gone, they decide to take a top 15 talent. They cut their nose tackle, so are SUPER happy that some how

Dan Williams D.T. Tennessee falls to them.

Brandon494
03-25-2010, 10:42 PM
I'm sure the bolts will be looking running back here, but with Spiller, and Matthews gone, they decide to take a top 15 talent. They cut their nose tackle, so are SUPER happy that some how

Dan Williams D.T. Tennessee falls to them.

Actually Dan Williams was taken with the 12th pick by Miami but if your looking for a DT Brian Price of UCLA is still available.

swede
03-25-2010, 10:56 PM
...they decide to take a top 15 talent. They cut their nose tackle, so are SUPER happy that some how

Dan Williams D.T. Tennessee falls to them.

He really must be Top 15 talent if he went with the 12th pick already.

packrulz
03-26-2010, 04:54 AM
I'm sure the bolts will be looking running back here, but with Spiller, and Matthews gone, they decide to take a top 15 talent. They cut their nose tackle, so are SUPER happy that some how

Dan Williams D.T. Tennessee falls to them.

I'll substitute Brian Price, he's projected to go in the mid to late 1st round. Swede is on the clock...
Does anyone want to do round 2? If we can get enough people we can do another round.

Joemailman
03-26-2010, 06:23 AM
I'm in for Round 2.

Bretsky
03-26-2010, 07:11 AM
I'm in for Round 2.


If you let me make two of the Saints Draft Choices they are undboutedly winning the Super Bowl next year as well :!: :!:

swede
03-26-2010, 07:26 AM
Rich Kotite was on his way to the podium carrying Jermaine Gresham's card when he was tackled by security and removed from the building.

The New York Jets front office guys are walking around this morning saying "I had a dream last night that Sergio was still there at twenty-nine."

With the 29th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the New York Jets select, from the University of Texas, 6' 3" 250 lb OLB, Sergio Kindle.

Edit: I keep checking to see if he had already been picked. How is he still there?

swede
03-26-2010, 07:31 AM
I'll take the same two teams in a second round, Steelers and Jets, assuming they both have picks in the same slots.

pbmax
03-26-2010, 09:05 AM
Clearly, without this even being over, the Browns were the big winner in Round 1. Strong, decisive, clear thinking leadership.

I will happily contribute one more pick to the cause. I wonder who this year's Webster Slaughter will be?

Mazzin
03-26-2010, 11:08 AM
Yea, sorry I'm a jackass, but instead of takin Brain Price, if it was MY TEAM (which it kinda was) I would have still selected terrance cody before Price.

mngolf19
03-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Vikes are looking at DL, OL, and DB with this pick. No they are not going to trade it to Philly. Tough call between Odrick, McCourty, Pouncey. It'll be one of those 3 (unless it's Robinson) So I'll pick Pouncey. Chilly likes Florida guys(could see a Tebow sighting with 2nd or 3rd pick)

packrulz
03-26-2010, 04:08 PM
Yea, sorry I'm a jackass, but instead of takin Brain Price, if it was MY TEAM (which it kinda was) I would have still selected terrance cody before Price.

You're not a jackass silly! I changed it to Cody. Brandon494 is on the clock...

jmbarnes101
03-26-2010, 04:44 PM
I'd love to do round 2, after all I did recommend we do all 7 rounds, though I would prefer to get more than one team if at all possible.

Lurker64
03-26-2010, 04:48 PM
I'm in for Round 2.

I'm also in for round 2.

mission
03-26-2010, 05:18 PM
I'm in for Round 2.

I'm also in for round 2.

Let's do it!

red
03-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Yea, sorry I'm a jackass, but instead of takin Brain Price, if it was MY TEAM (which it kinda was) I would have still selected terrance cody before Price.

i love the pick

cody is a freak of nature. he probably won't play half the downs on d,but if you stick him in there on running downs, nobody is gonna be able to run up the middle

packrulz
03-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Here's what I have for the second round so far, anyone else who wants to draft in the second round let me know what team, and feel free to take a couple teams.
Second round
Pk Sel # Team
1 33 St. Louis(jmbarnes101)=
2 34 Detroit(JustinHarrell)=
3 35 Tampa Bay
4 36 Kansas City(Lurker64)=
5 37 Washington
6 38 Cleveland(pbmax)=
7 39 Oakland
8 40 San Diego (from Seattle)
9 41 Buffalo
10 42 Tampa Bay (from Chicago)
11 43 Miami
12 44 New England (from Jacksonville)(joemailman)=
13 45 Denver(jmbarnes101)=
14 46 N.Y. Giants
15 47 New England (from Tennessee)(joemailman)=
16 48 Carolina
17 49 San Francisco
18 50 Kansas City (from Atlanta)(mission)=
19 51 Houston(Lurker64)=
20 52 Pittsburgh(swede)=
21 53 New England
22 54 Cincinnati(joemailman)=
23 55 Philadelphia(Joemailman)=
24 56 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=
25 57 Baltimore(mission)=
26 58 Arizona(packrulz)=
27 59 Dallas
28 60 Seattle (from San Diego)
29 61 N.Y. Jets(swede)=
30 62 Minnesota
31 63 Indianapolis
32 64 New Orleans(Bretsky)=

Joemailman
03-26-2010, 08:36 PM
I'll take Philadelphia.

Bretsky
03-26-2010, 08:41 PM
Da Saints are licking their chops waiting for their guy to fall into their laps

pbmax
03-26-2010, 08:50 PM
I have a copy of an Excel spreadsheet that Todd McShay (that claim is wholly unverified) uses to track picks, trade evaluations according to the Cowboys chart, team pick values, draft by position, by college and by conference I think. Its nothing revolutionary, but fun. It is also populated with the draftees from two years ago. If anyone wants a copy with an eye toward putting in this year's crop of prospects, I can make it available. Its also possible someone here has it as well, as I may have gotten the link from this site.

Please let me know.

The chart uses Excel lists/name groups, so you will want to be at least familiar with those features of Excel.

RashanGary
03-26-2010, 10:04 PM
I'll take Detroit or the highest spot available if Detroit is taken.

packrulz
03-27-2010, 06:12 AM
These are some of the top guys left, from CaliforniaCheez's list, some good players are slipping, wow, what a deep draft!:
21) Griffin Everson DE USC
26) Tate Golden WR Notre
29) Gresham Jermaine TE OK
31) Odrick Jared DT Pen St
32) McCourty Devin CB Rutgers
33) Price Brian DT UCLA
34) Hughes Jerry DE/LB TCU
36) Best Jahvid RB CA
38) Thomas Demaryius WR GA Tec
39) Jackson Kareem CB AL
40) Robinson Patrick CB FL St
41) Washington Daryl LB TX Christ
42) LaFell Brandon WR LSU
43) Wootton Corey DE Northw
44) Gronkowski Rob TE AZ
45) Williams Damian WR USC
46) Sapp Ricky LB Clems
47) Benn Arrelious WR IL
48) Dwyer Jonathan RB GA Tech
49) Allen Nate FS S FL
50) McCoy Colt QB TX
51) Aluaha Tyson DT CA
52) Ducasse Vlad OG Umass
53) Tebow Tim QB FL
54) Spikes Brandon LB FL
55) Franks Dominique CB OK
56) McCluster Dexter WR MS
57) Jones Chad FS LSU
58) Houston Lamarr DT TX
59) Gerhart Toby RB Stanford
60) Misi Koa DE Utah
61) Cook Chris CB VA
62) Hernandez Aaron TE FL
63) Ghee Brandon CB Wake F
64) Burnett Morgan FS GA Tec
65) Saffold Roger OT IN
66) Thomas Cam DT NC
67) Norwood Eric LB SC
68) McKnight Joe RB USC
69) McCoy Anthony TE USC
70) Jerry John G/T MS
71) Bowman Navorro OLB Pen St
72) Hardesty Montario RB TN
73) Lee Sean LB Pen St
74) Dickson Ed TE OR
75) Murphy Jerome CB S FL
76) Veldheer Jared OT Hillsdale
77) Worilds Jason LB/DE VA Tech
78) Cunningham Jermaine DE FL
79) Gilyard Mardy WR Cincin

Joemailman
03-27-2010, 06:41 AM
Clausen was the 4th pick.

packrulz
03-27-2010, 07:16 AM
Clausen was the 4th pick.
Oops, fixed.

Fred's Slacks
03-27-2010, 08:20 AM
I'll take Buffalo if they're available. They have lots of needs. Should be easy.

Bretsky
03-27-2010, 09:06 AM
Rich Kotite was on his way to the podium carrying Jermaine Gresham's card when he was tackled by security and removed from the building.

The New York Jets front office guys are walking around this morning saying "I had a dream last night that Sergio was still there at twenty-nine."

With the 29th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the New York Jets select, from the University of Texas, 6' 3" 250 lb OLB, Sergio Kindle.

Edit: I keep checking to see if he had already been picked. How is he still there?


DAM; to be honest I was waiting for him at 32 and just realized you picked him. Back to the drawing board.

I'd also take him at 23 over Davis

packrulz
03-27-2010, 10:39 AM
I'll take Buffalo if they're available. They have lots of needs. Should be easy.
Done, if you want another one, let me know.

Bretsky
03-27-2010, 10:48 AM
I'll take Tampa Bay for starters and then the Giants and if MN does not want them I'll take the Vikings as well :!:

Brandon494
03-27-2010, 01:54 PM
Colts select Brian Price

Best player available and would be a good fit on the Colts defensive line.

Also I'll take the 49ers again in the 2nd round mock.

Bretsky
03-27-2010, 01:57 PM
Colts select Charles Brown.

One area of weakness on offense for the Colts is the offensive line and Charles Brown should be their LT of the future.

Also I'll take the 49ers again in the 2nd round mock.


he was gone with pick #27

pbmax
03-27-2010, 02:07 PM
I will take Washington's round 2 pick if not claimed. Since they are playing a 3-4, at least my 10 minutes of research will make me better prepared for the actual Packer draft.

packrulz
03-27-2010, 02:26 PM
Bretsky is on the clock for the last pick of the first round...the second round is filling up nicely, only 7 teams need GM's, come on folks, there's a lot of good players left yet!

Bretsky
03-27-2010, 02:28 PM
The Saints realize they need to beef us their DL as well as their pass rush
The Saints realize they will need to bring the house to stop AROD next year

The Saints are very high on Jerry Hughes and think he could be a lights out pass rusher and consider him

But in the end the NFC Champions select a well coached, solid all round first round quality DE in Eversen Griffin out of USC

jmbarnes101
03-27-2010, 04:14 PM
Can I have the Bucs??? If they're not available the Giants or Patriots or anyone else that doesn't have an owner.

Saw Bretsky took the Bucs.

I'll take Miami and any other team you want - whomever you still need to fill essentially.

Bretsky
03-27-2010, 10:13 PM
Can I have the Bucs??? If they're not available the Giants or Patriots or anyone else that doesn't have an owner.

Saw Bretsky took the Bucs.

I'll take Miami and any other team you want - whomever you still need to fill essentially.


You can have the Bucs if you want; makes no difference to me

packrulz
03-28-2010, 06:11 AM
Can I have the Bucs??? If they're not available the Giants or Patriots or anyone else that doesn't have an owner.

Saw Bretsky took the Bucs.

I'll take Miami and any other team you want - whomever you still need to fill essentially.

Done, you're on the clock for the first pick of round 2...

jmbarnes101
03-28-2010, 11:18 AM
The Rams are a team that has holes almost everywhere. What they do have is Steven Jackson and a new #1 QB courtesy of Sam Bradford who was drafted in the 1st round.

In other words, they could go offense or defense and that player should be able to help them out. There are a lot of intriguing players left at this spot and this team could use any of them, Jared Odrick, Earl Thomas, and Jermaine Gresham top the list of 1st round caliber talent that dropped to the 2nd round. The question now isn't can they help but which one to take.

Seeing as they just invested in upwards of $60 million into a QB, getting him some help would be extremely important. Any help in the passing game helps SJax as well. With that being said, the Rams pick in the 2nd round is...

Jermaine Gresham, TE Oklahoma

Strengths (courtesy of NFLdraftcountdown.com):
Prototypical size with a large frame --- Excellent athleticism --- Smooth with good speed and plays faster than he times --- Soft hands and can snatch the ball out of the air --- Terrific body control, ball skills and leaping ability --- Able to get off the line and beat the jam --- Can get up the seam and stretch the field vertically --- Superb balance and runs hard after the catch --- Nice awareness and really knows how to get open --- Adequate blocker and gives good effort --- Strong work ethic.

Weaknesses:
Durability is a major concern --- Not particularly explosive and has build-up speed --- Has lapses in concentration which effects both his hands and knowledge of assignments --- Average route runner --- Not real elusive --- Can stand to be more physical and aggressive at times.

Gresham is by far the best TE available in this draft and likely won't be available at this spot. If he is look for the Rams to jump all over the opportunity to add him. The Rams will be looking defense throughout the rest of the draft unless they find a OL or WR that has dropped.

JustinHarrell and the Detroit Lions are on the clock.

pbmax
03-28-2010, 12:59 PM
Plenty of good 2nd round teams available!

Oakland (39) : Anything you do with this pick will seem plausible

San Diego (40): Find someone with a questionable background and out of this world athletic ability (after Oakland is done with the list) and your work is done

Carolina (48): Your pick will be more well known than their starting QB

Dallas (59): They always need a fourth starting running back

Indianapolis (63): Find someone small and fast and tell people size is overrated

Brandon494
03-28-2010, 02:39 PM
I'll take SD as well

Lurker64
03-28-2010, 02:54 PM
I can draft for Oakland too, if you still need people.

Bretsky
03-28-2010, 03:17 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

packrulz
03-28-2010, 03:34 PM
The only teams left that need a GM are Dallas and Seattle, if nobody wants them, I'll take them. How about the New England Patriots have 3 picks in the second round of a deep draft, Joemailman should clean up. I've decided not to do a runoff vote for the Packers pick, it takes too long, so we'll do one quick vote and the winner will be the pick.

Second round
Pk Sel # Team
1 33 St. Louis(jmbarnes101)=Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
2 34 Detroit(JustinHarrell)=Golden Tate, WR, ND
3 35 Tampa Bay(jmbarnes101)=Patrick Robinson, CB Florida State
4 36 Kansas City(Lurker64)=Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU
5 37 Washington(pbmax)=Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana
6 38 Cleveland(pbmax)=Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
7 39 Oakland(Lurker64)=Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
8 40 San Diego (from Seattle)(Brandon494)=Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
9 41 Buffalo(Fred's Slacks)=Jared Odrick DT (now DE) Penn St.
10 42 Tampa Bay (from Chicago)(jmbarnes101)=Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
11 43 Miami(jmbarnes101)=Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
12 44 New England (from Jacksonville)(joemailman)=Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
13 45 Denver(jmbarnes101)=Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts
14 46 N.Y. Giants(Bretsky)=Devin McCourtey, CB Rutgers
15 47 New England (from Tennessee)(joemailman)= Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
16 48 Carolina(packrulz)=Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
17 49 San Francisco(Brandon494)=Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
18 50 Kansas City (from Atlanta)(mission)=Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami (Fla.)
19 51 Houston(Lurker64)=Dominique Franks CB, OK
20 52 Pittsburgh(swede)=Jerome Murphy, CB, South Florida
21 53 New England(joemailman)=Damian Williams WR USC
22 54 Cincinnati(joemailman)=
23 55 Philadelphia(joemailman)=
24 56 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=
25 57 Baltimore(mission)=
26 58 Arizona(packrulz)=
27 59 Dallas(Freak Out)=
28 60 Seattle (from San Diego)(JustinHarrell)=
29 61 N.Y. Jets(swede)=
30 62 Minnesota(Bretsky)=
31 63 Indianapolis(Bretsky)=
32 64 New Orleans(Bretsky)=

jmbarnes101
03-28-2010, 04:08 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.

jklowan
03-28-2010, 04:11 PM
I'm just hoping for a impact player!!!

Bretsky
03-28-2010, 04:28 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.

packrulz
03-28-2010, 06:04 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.
I updated Tampa Bay, jmbarnes101 has them.

RashanGary
03-28-2010, 07:39 PM
If there's another team out there, I'll take a second one.

pbmax
03-28-2010, 10:37 PM
If there's another team out there, I'll take a second one.
Aren't you already on the clock? :lol:

packrulz
03-29-2010, 05:13 AM
If there's another team out there, I'll take a second one.
I gave you Seattle, and you're on the clock for Detroit...

RashanGary
03-29-2010, 07:27 AM
haha. I'll get it in

RashanGary
03-29-2010, 07:28 AM
Detroit takes Golden Tate, WR, ND

Fritz
03-29-2010, 10:47 AM
ND72 would know better than I would, but the few times I saw ND play, one of those two wide receivers - and I think it was the Golden Boy - dropped a ton of passes.

jmbarnes101
03-29-2010, 02:48 PM
The Bucs are another team in need of help at various positions and ever since the surprise firing of Jon Gruden have done nothing on the field but decline; granted its only been one year but I don't see that changing this year either. Gerald McCoy will certainly help and the drafting of Aqib Talib gave them a solid CB but they still have holes at OL, WR, DE, LB and in the secondary.

With the 3rd pick in the 2nd round (pick 35) the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select...

Patrick Robinson, CB Florida State

The Bucs should have a hard time passing on a player that probably should have been a 1st round pick in a different draft and they are also in need of a CB to start opposite Aqib Talib. With Robinson hailing from Florida State they have a player that will excite the in-state fans and should be able to start or play nickel immediately. We get to find out what's more important, a DB or a DL and Robinson and McCoy should certainly be able to help each other thrive on the field.
Finally, if he does what he's capable of the Bucs have a CB tandem that will be among the best for many years.

This was not my first choice and I had another player written up but with them picking again in 7 spots this pick made the most sense now.

Courtesy of nfldraftcountdown.com
Strengths:
Outstanding athlete --- Excellent speed and acceleration --- Quick and agile --- Super fluid hips and transitions well --- Terrific feet --- Closes in a hurry and has a burst to recover --- Good height and bulk --- Strong with a chiseled physique --- Great leaping ability --- Good hands and ball skills --- Is effective in both man and zone coverage --- Tough, physical and feisty --- Gets a good jam at the line of scrimmage --- A decent tackler --- Still has lots of upside --- Fantastic program pedigree.

Weaknesses:
Inconsistent --- Concentration will wane --- Questionable instincts and awareness --- Is too aggressive at times --- Not a violent hitter --- Just an average run defender --- Some off-the-field issues --- Durability may be a concern --- Doesn't make enough impact plays --- Underachiever ?

Notes:
Was a 2½-year starter for the Seminoles --- Named 2nd Team All-ACC in 2009 --- Hails from the same program that produced Deion Sanders, Terrell Buckley, Corey Fuller, Samari Rolle, Bryant McFadden and Antonio Cromartie --- Dealt with minor knee, back and shoulder injuries in college --- Was suspended for taking part in a widespread academic cheating scandal --- All the ability in the world but doesn't always play up to his impressive physical tools --- Extremely talented and could be special but potential is still more impressive than the actual production.

Lurker64 and the Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock.

jmbarnes101
03-29-2010, 02:53 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.

So how did my pick compare with what you had in mind?

Lurker64
03-29-2010, 04:57 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs, like the Green Bay Packers, shifted to the 3-4 defense before the last season. However, things didn't go nearly as well in Kansas City as in Green Bay as the Chiefs pass defense was execrable last year. The two thing the Packers did well in the draft last year to usher in their shift was "acquire a nose tackle" and "acquire a pass rushing OLB". Both positions are positions of need for the Chiefs. With the top three NTs off the board, the Chiefs take a serious look at North Carolina's Cam Thomas, who is the best remaining NT. However he, or ECU's Linval Joseph will probably be available at the 50th pick as there's a lot of quality players left so it's not necessary to reach for a need.

The Chiefs again are this close to taking a WR, as Georgia Tech's Demaryius Thomas has the physical tools to be a dominant receiver in this league, but he's extremely raw and played in an option offense. But with only two WRs being taken at this point, they can wait and see who lasts.

So the Chiefs, needing immediate help on the defense take a look at the rookies who made the pro bowl last year. At a count you had one safety (Jarius Byrd) and three OLBs (Matthews, Cushing, and Orakpo). Having already taken the best safety prospect since Jason Taylor in the first round, the Chiefs elect to improve their pass defense by sacking the quarterback by taking the best remaining (possibly best period) pass rusher, TCU's Jerry Hughes.

Freak Out
03-29-2010, 05:04 PM
I'll play pin the tail on the donkey....errrr I mean NFL draft.

Brandon494
03-29-2010, 05:29 PM
If no one has taken Dallas I'll pick for them as well.

Joemailman
03-29-2010, 05:33 PM
pbmax is on the clock for the next 2 picks - Washington and Cleveland

packrulz
03-29-2010, 06:19 PM
I'll play pin the tail on the donkey....errrr I mean NFL draft.
You can have Dallas.

pbmax
03-29-2010, 07:24 PM
Redskins took Clausen in our Mock. Remaining needs include Tackle (desperate), Guard, and Safety. Reasonable performance can be had at safety later in this draft and the Wash defense fared better than its O in Aught 9. I think the Potomac Drainage Basin Indigenous Persons will select someone to keep Campbell and Clausen upright. Candidates include Ducasse, Saffold, Jerry and Veldheer. For today, it says here:

With the 5th pick of the Second Round, the Washington Redskins select Roger Saffold, OT, University of Indiana.

Renowned as a drive blocker, he has numbers that suggest someone who can move his feet. His forty times were slightly slower than Veldheer, but his shorter splits were close, he was better than the heavier Ducasse in agility and even matched the freakish Veldheer in the broad jump. He faced top flight competition in the Big Ten. No, I am not saying that ironically.

The Skins will be running the ZBS, and any of these three would seem to fit. Veldheer is 6' 8" and might be able to reach block the opposite side D Tackle.


03/26/2010 - TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT OFFENSIVE TACKLES: Rodger Saffold, Indiana, 6-5, 316, 2: Despite being a solid starter at left tackle since his freshman year, Saffold didn't get a lot of attention from scouts until he became a surprise standout during East-West Shrine Game workouts. He was impressive against active, spinning pass rushers and showed great strength as a drive blocker. He continued to impress NFL teams with a great workout at the combine and followed up by showing excellent agility in his pro day drills. Before that, it seems the most attention he received was unwanted ??? seven penalties in his senior season. He was bothered by back and knee injuries in 2008, missing two games. But according to coaching statistics, Saffold allowed three sacks and one pressure in his final 440 college pass plays. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY

pbmax
03-29-2010, 08:09 PM
Browns sagely took Joe Haden, CB, in our First Round Mock and still need a QB, WR, Safeties, DE and some say linebackers, though, Mangenius maintained after trading Wimbley that he liked their depth there and named everyone left with a number in the 50s.

The Browns defense needed pass rush help even when they had Wimbley and Williams. With both gone, I cannot see them passing up an OLB who can rush the passer but the top tier talents are gone (Misi and Sapp have the size a Parcells/Belicheck defense would want at OLB but each is new to OLB) and they did sign SOLB Scott Fujita. When I have seen Fujita, he was covering even as a SAM in a 4-3, but the Browns might think he can get after the QB. In either case, there would not seem to be value for that skill set at OLB for this pick.

Earl Thomas has visited (in our Mock he is long gone) and the Browns have watched McCoy, Clausen and Bradford workout. Holmgren has said he is taking a QB this draft but then intentionally or not has scrambled everyone's opinions by talking down Clausen. Since he won't get Bradford or Clausen if he sits behind the Rams and Redskins, then he would seem to be telegraphing McCoy or Dan LaSomething. Nate Allen at safety would be the next most likely pick if they go defense after a CB in Round 1. Demaryius Thomas at WR might be the best physical talent left on the board.

Since they are going to run Holmgren's offense, the QB will need to pass his test. McCoy is slightly bigger than Brees, but shy of Hasselback's size, though not by much. His production is college is greater than anyone Holmgren has had except Detmer. My problem would be the caliber of defenses he faced, week in and week out. But I am going to take Holmgren at his word (he was pulling a double fake) and announce:

With the sixth pick in the Second Round of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Colt McCoy, QB, University of Texas.


03/23/2010 - Texas quarterback Colt McCoy will visit the Browns April 12-13, a league source told espn.com. McCoy, the third-rated quarterback in the draft according to most experts, is projected to go in the second round -- after first-round prospects Sam Bradford of Oklahoma and Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame. Browns President Mike Holmgren has said he'll take a quarterback in the draft and is weighing all of his options. He said he likes possible No. 1 overall pick Bradford a lot but that it would be difficult for the Browns to move up to draft him. He also told The Plain Dealer that Clausen is not really his type of player. He hasn't yet commented publicly on McCoy, who leaves Texas as the winningest quarterback in NCAA history. Pro Football Weekly surmises that McCoy would function well in the West Coast offense because of his average arm strength and that McCoy is "in a similar mold as Jeff Garcia, who can will his way into a starting job." McCoy (6-1, 210) threw 112 touchdowns and 45 interceptions in his four years as a starter at Texas, with a 70.3 percent completion rate. Holmgren has already acknowledged that he'll spend some extra time before the draft with Florida quarterback Tim Tebow and said he'll do the same with four or five others. In 2009, McCoy passed for 3,521 yards with 27 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. - Mary Kay Cabot, The Cleveland Plain Deale

pbmax
03-29-2010, 08:10 PM
Remaining off Cheese's List:

31) Odrick Jared DT Pen St
32) McCourty Devin CB Rutgers
36) Best Jahvid RB CA
38) Thomas Demaryius WR GA Tec
39) Jackson Kareem CB AL
41) Washington Daryl LB TX Christ
42) LaFell Brandon WR LSU
43) Wootton Corey DE Northw
44) Gronkowski Rob TE AZ
45) Williams Damian WR USC
46) Sapp Ricky LB Clems
47) Benn Arrelious WR IL
48) Dwyer Jonathan RB GA Tech
49) Allen Nate FS S FL
51) Aluaha Tyson DT CA
52) Ducasse Vlad OG Umass
53) Tebow Tim QB FL
54) Spikes Brandon LB FL
55) Franks Dominique CB OK
56) McCluster Dexter WR MS
57) Jones Chad FS LSU
58) Houston Lamarr DT TX
59) Gerhart Toby RB Stanford
60) Misi Koa DE Utah
61) Cook Chris CB VA
62) Hernandez Aaron TE FL
63) Ghee Brandon CB Wake F
64) Burnett Morgan FS GA Tec
66) Thomas Cam DT NC
67) Norwood Eric LB SC
68) McKnight Joe RB USC
69) McCoy Anthony TE USC
70) Jerry John G/T MS
71) Bowman Navorro OLB Pen St
72) Hardesty Montario RB TN
73) Lee Sean LB Pen St
74) Dickson Ed TE OR
75) Murphy Jerome CB S FL
76) Veldheer Jared OT Hillsdale
77) Worilds Jason LB/DE VA Tech
78) Cunningham Jermaine DE FL
79) Gilyard Mardy WR Cincin

pbmax
03-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Lurker and the Oakland Raiders are on the clock.

Bretsky
03-29-2010, 09:02 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.

So how did my pick compare with what you had in mind?



Had my eye on Colt McCoy and then Golden Tate for the Bucs

Brandon494
03-29-2010, 09:05 PM
Detroit takes Golden Tate, WR, ND

I think the Lions had more needs at other positions other than WR after signing Burleson in the offseason.

jmbarnes101
03-29-2010, 09:12 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.

So how did my pick compare with what you had in mind?



Had my eye on Colt McCoy and then Golden Tate for the Bucs

Was looking at Tate as well but since he was gone needed to go with a lesser WR or a better defensive player. I don't see any way they take McCoy with Freeman being a first round pick last year and them trying to trade a QB because they think they have to many; rumored to be trying to trade Leftwich and/or Josh Johnson for whatever they can get.

jmbarnes101
03-29-2010, 09:14 PM
Detroit takes Golden Tate, WR, ND

I think the Lions had more needs at other positions other than WR after signing Burleson in the offseason.

Totally agree with you on this one. I don't see them taking Tate to be their # 3/4 WR when they have so many other pressing needs that can be addressed with the players that were left. One of the two CB's left would have been a great choice for them.

Bretsky
03-29-2010, 09:15 PM
I want Indy; I'm a frontrunner so with MN, Indy, and NO I can be sitting in the winners circle next year :lol:

Jim can have Tampa Bay; they don't need a few picks they need a whole new team and coaching staff :!:

I'm also happy to take leftovers.......hey.....can you post a new list with the assigned drafters to their team. I forgot if I've volunteered for anybody else :lol:

Thanks, much appreciated and kind of fits considering I now have both picks that should have been belonging to the Bears. They could have had Dez Bryant already which would have given Cutler a good WR, can't imagine how bad it will look after I'm done with the pick they gave away for Gaines Adams as well; R.I.P.

Am I taking #3 in this round as well? That would give me Rams, Bucs, Dolphins, and Broncos's picks. Sounds like fun.


YES, go ahead and select in the 3 spot for the Bucs as well; I know who I'd pick for sure so it'll be interesting to see if you nab the same guy.

So how did my pick compare with what you had in mind?



Had my eye on Colt McCoy and then Golden Tate for the Bucs

Was looking at Tate as well but since he was gone needed to go with a lesser WR or a better defensive player. I don't see any way they take McCoy with Freeman being a first round pick last year and them trying to trade a QB because they think they have to many; rumored to be trying to trade Leftwich and/or Josh Johnson for whatever they can get.


You are right
Actually for some reason I was thinking Freeman was a second round pick

Joemailman
03-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Detroit takes Golden Tate, WR, ND

I think the Lions had more needs at other positions other than WR after signing Burleson in the offseason.

Totally agree with you on this one. I don't see them taking Tate to be their # 3/4 WR when they have so many other pressing needs that can be addressed with the players that were left. One of the two CB's left would have been a great choice for them.

Burleson has never been more than maybe a slightly above average receiver. He won't really impact whether they take Tate. They need another threat so that teams can't double team CJ all the time. With all the top OT's gone, I could see them taking Tate.

Brandon494
03-29-2010, 09:44 PM
Detroit takes Golden Tate, WR, ND

I think the Lions had more needs at other positions other than WR after signing Burleson in the offseason.

Totally agree with you on this one. I don't see them taking Tate to be their # 3/4 WR when they have so many other pressing needs that can be addressed with the players that were left. One of the two CB's left would have been a great choice for them.

Burleson has never been more than maybe a slightly above average receiver. He won't really impact whether they take Tate. They need another threat so that teams can't double team CJ all the time. With all the top OT's gone, I could see them taking Tate.

They just drafted Derrick Williams who is a similiar player in the 3rd round last season. They have way greater needs than WR on that team.

Lurker64
03-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Blame the earlier pick in Al's senility. He insisted earlier that we draft Jamarcus Russell again, despite the fact that he's a bust and he's already on the team. The dark lord of the Sith just kept muttering something about "We need more guys like him."

Brandon Ghee is 6'0 tall, weights 192 pounds, can run 40 yards in 4.37 seconds and 10 yards in 1.52 seconds. He can jump 37" in the air, and 10'07" horizontally from a standing position. He can lift a bar that's heavier than he is 19 times, and he can run back and forth between some cones either 3.98 or 6.75 seconds depending on what you ask him to do.

Rumor has it, he knows what a football looks like when he sees it.

Brandon494
03-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Carlos Dunlap is 6'6" and 277 pounds with 34 5/8" arms and 10" hands. He runs the 40 yard dash in 4.61 seconds with a 10 yard split of 1.61 seconds, he can bench press 225 pounds 25 times in a row, and he can jump 9 feet and four inches horizontally from a standing position.

He can also jump 31.5" in the air, and can do something arcane involving three cones in 7.21 seconds.

Rumor has it, he's also played football before.

The Raiders will take him.

Was taken with the 16th pick, try again.

Brandon494
03-30-2010, 04:12 PM
SD selects running back Best Jahvid from Cal.

After cutting LT this offseason the Chargers need a RB to split time with Sproles. Even though they have similiar styles Best has too much talent to pass up on a position of need.


Incredible combination of speed, agility and explosiveness. Can change direction without slowing down. Has great vision and runs with low center of gravity. Extremely elusive. Poor in pass protection - was actually taken out of the game during passing downs in college. Not very powerful and doesn't project as an every down back in the NFL. Ran a 4.35 at the combine with 18 reps on the bench (225 lbs).

packrulz
03-30-2010, 04:46 PM
Fred's Slacks is on the clock...

Fred's Slacks
03-30-2010, 08:28 PM
Sorry guys. Golf course just opened today so I had to get a round in after work.

Anyway...

The Bills filled a big need in the first by getting a LT. They'd love to grab a NT or a QB here but Cam Thomas would be a bit of a reach and though Tebow is inticing, this franchise isn't at the point yet were they can use a 2nd on a gamble like that. Switching to the 3-4 is going to require them to acquire some different body types and what better way than grabbing the best 5 technique in the draft. Jared Odrick is a great value here. I've heard he's had trouble holding the point against double teams but I saw differently in the senior bowl. The guy has a great motor and plays hard every snap.

With their second round pick the Buffalo Bills select Jared Odrick DT (now DE) Penn St.

Joemailman
03-30-2010, 10:29 PM
jmbarnes101 has the next 2 picks. Tampa Bay (from Chicago for Gaines Adams), and Miami.

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 10:06 AM
The Buccaneers are in desperate need of an infusion of talent and McCoy and Robinson will go a long way to help plug their two biggest holes on defense. At this spot they still need help defensively but also need help on the offense and having selected Josh Freeman in the 1st round last year they desperately need to build around him. They have a chance to improve the OL or WR at this spot and I believe they will do just that. They still have solid choices left at WR and one mauling OT/OG left that would fit both needs equally well.

With the 42nd pick in the draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select...

Arrelious Benn, WR Illinois

Having lost their best WR (Antonio Bryant) as a free agent Michael Clayton and Maurice Stovall don't scare anyone. They also have Stoughter but he's better in the slot. While the Bucs would prefer a burner Benn brings with him tremendous talent and immediately improves the team and is someone that could be a better pro than college player. The Bucs are now 3-for-3 in grabbing BPA that also fills a huge need for this team. From here they can grab another WR, somebody for the OL or any number of players to help out that once vaunted D and with 2 additional picks in the top 100 have a chance to dramatically improve this team.

I know some prefer D. Thomas but Benn is ready to start now and isn't nearly the project Thomas is. Benn may be the WR most suited to playing in the NFL on day 1.

Strengths: courtesy of nfldraftcountdown.com
Excellent size with a rocked up physique --- Extremely athletic --- Plays faster than he times and has a burst --- Terrific body control, ball skills and leaping ability --- Great vision --- Nice balance --- Elusive and can either evade defenders or run them over --- Works the middle and isn't afraid to take a hit --- Able to get off the line and beat the jam --- An above average blocker --- Real strong, physical and aggressive --- Is super tough and competitive --- Also a return man --- Still has upside.

Weaknesses:
Does not have natural hands and concentration wanes which leads to dropped passes --- Isn't a polished route runner --- Average timed speed and is not much of a vertical threat --- Appears to be tightly- wound and a tad stiff --- Durability is a concern --- Marginal production.

Notes:
Nickname is "Rejus", which is what many call him --- Was a three-year starter for the Fighting Illini --- A team captain as a sophomore and junior --- Named the 2007 Big Ten Freshman of the Year --- Garnered 1st Team All-Big Ten honors in 2008 --- Was a top recruit who had his pick of elite college programs out of high school but instead chose to join Ron Zook's rebuilding effort --- Caught at least one pass in 36 of 37 games played --- Averaged 23.7 yards with 1 touchdown on 42 career kick returns --- Was severely hampered by an ankle injury in 2009 --- Very talented wideout who was severely underutilized due to inconsistencies at the quarterback position --- Is physically mature and ready to play in the NFL right now --- Profiles as a starter and is the type who could end up being better in the pros than he was in college.

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 11:36 AM
The Miami Dolphins, who were able to select the big NT in the 1st round to replace the suspended and aging Jason Ferguson, now turn their attention to another position.
This team needs help at WR, Safety, LB (signed Karlos Dansby as a free agent), a 3rd CB due to Will Allen's legal problems and if the right player was available would look to OL as well - never hurts to help that bread-and-butter running game.

For this pick I looked at all of the players that would be an excellent fit at at a position of need for this team which included Vlad Ducasse, Nate Allen, Devin McCourty, Daryl Washington, Eric Norwood, Koa Misi, Ricky Sapp, and Demaryius Thomas and while each of these could be great players and fill holes on this team something just doesn't seem right. Jared Odrick would have been the pick here but he went 2 picks ahead of them to rival Buffalo so in looking back and analyzing who they really are, the Miami Dolphins with pick #43 select...

Tim Tebow, QB Florida

While this a complete shocker to most especially with Chad Henne as the starting QB and just having selected Pat White in the 2nd round last year there isn't an offense in the NFL that is geared more towards the unique talents Tim Tebow has than the Miami Dolphins Wildcat offense. He's Pat White x1,000 and he can sit behind Henne for a while and take part in a few plays each game while learning how to throw like a professional QB. His running skills in this offense make him dangerous and combined with Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams creates a trifecta that could give rival defensive coordinators fits.

While I realize that this likely isn't the player they'd take I can also see the huge benefits if they were to select him such as an extremely talented athlete and a local product that would excite the fans and make them forget about not selecting a WR with this pick.

Strengths:
Good height and outstanding bulk --- Terrific athleticism --- Excellent strength --- Arm is strong enough to make all the throws --- Can throw on the run --- Shows some elusiveness --- Can buy time in the pocket and make plays with his legs --- Powerful runner --- Extraordinarily competitive --- Tough as nails --- Fantastic work ethic --- Smart --- Has a ton of experience against top-notch competition --- Incredible leader.

Weaknesses:
Zero experience in a pro style offense --- A long delivery and serious mechanical issues with his throwing motion --- Has trouble throwing a tight spiral --- Not overly accurate --- Poor footwork --- Will have to adjust to taking snaps from under center --- Must learn how to read defenses and coverages --- Marginal vision --- Is too eager to run at times --- Minor durability concerns --- May have to learn a new position.

Notes:
A three-year starter for the Gators --- Regarded as one of the greatest players in college football history --- Helped lead Florida to two BCS National Championships --- Became the first sophomore to ever win the Heisman Trophy in 2007 and was also a finalist in 2008 and 2009 --- A three-time All-American (1st Team in 2007, 3rd Team in 2008 and 2nd Team in 2009) --- Earned 1st Team All-SEC honors in 2007, 2008 and 2009 --- A two-time winner of the Maxwell Award (2008 and 2009), given to the Collegiate Player of the Year --- Winner of the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award in 2007 --- Recipient of the Lowe's Senior CLASS Award, given to the most outstanding senior student-athlete, in 2009 --- Elected a captain by his teammates as a junior and senior --- Became the only player in NCAA history to ever rush and pass for more than 20 touchdowns in a single season in 2007 --- Extremely active in the community and works intensively with a wide assortment of charitable foundations --- Has traveled to the Philippines for mission trips on a number of occasions --- Could also project to Tight End, H-Back or Fullback at the next level --- Physical style of play has led to his body taking quite a pounding over the years --- Product of Urban Meyer's spread system, which did little or nothing to prepare him for the pros --- Has the physical tools to play quarterback in the NFL and intangibles are second to none but is basically a raw ball of clay at this point --- A long-term project who will likely require at least 2-3 years of development but can contribute in other ways in the meantime --- Will probably be selected earlier than he should be based on his impressive college résumé and absolutely impeccable character --- Just might go down as the most controversial prospect in the history of the NFL Draft.

mission
03-31-2010, 12:49 PM
I thought you were just taking him for the shock factor given Henne's recent comments about Tebow and how he thinks he won't be any good in the NFL :lol:

That'd be good stuff

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 01:32 PM
I thought you were just taking him for the shock factor given Henne's recent comments about Tebow and how he thinks he won't be any good in the NFL :lol:

That'd be good stuff

Honestly never saw or heard about that. It just adds to the obvious reasons of why they should indeed take him if given a choice in the 2nd round. :lol:

packrulz
03-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Good stuff jmbarnes101, I could see Miami taking Tebow. Here's the second round picks so far:
Second round
Pk Sel # Team
1 33 St. Louis(jmbarnes101)=Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
2 34 Detroit(JustinHarrell)=Golden Tate, WR, ND
3 35 Tampa Bay(jmbarnes101)=Patrick Robinson, CB Florida State
4 36 Kansas City(Lurker64)=Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU
5 37 Washington(pbmax)=Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana
6 38 Cleveland(pbmax)=Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
7 39 Oakland(Lurker64)=Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
8 40 San Diego (from Seattle)(Brandon494)=Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
9 41 Buffalo(Fred's Slacks)=Jared Odrick DT (now DE) Penn St.
10 42 Tampa Bay (from Chicago)(jmbarnes101)=Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
11 43 Miami(jmbarnes101)=Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
12 44 New England (from Jacksonville)(joemailman)=Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
13 45 Denver(jmbarnes101)=Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts
14 46 N.Y. Giants(Bretsky)=Devin McCourtey, CB Rutgers
15 47 New England (from Tennessee)(joemailman)=Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
16 48 Carolina(packrulz)=Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
17 49 San Francisco(Brandon494)=Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
18 50 Kansas City (from Atlanta)(packrulz)=Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami (Fla.)
19 51 Houston(Lurker64)=Dominique Franks CB, OK
20 52 Pittsburgh(swede)=Jerome Murphy, CB, South Florida
21 53 New England(joemailman)=Damian Williams WR USC
22 54 Cincinnati(joemailman)=
23 55 Philadelphia(joemailman)=
24 56 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=
25 57 Baltimore(mission)=
26 58 Arizona(packrulz)=
27 59 Dallas(Freak Out)=
28 60 Seattle (from San Diego)(JustinHarrell)=
29 61 N.Y. Jets(swede)=
30 62 Minnesota(Bretsky)=
31 63 Indianapolis(Bretsky)=
32 64 New Orleans(Bretsky)=

Joemailman is on the clock...

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 03:59 PM
Thanks. You guys/gals can call me jim though or just jm if you want.

Brandon494
03-31-2010, 04:21 PM
Miami doesnt need Tim Tebow, they should have went after a OLB to replace Porter with the 2nd pick. Tebow will be no where near the runner in the NFL that he was in college and I believe he would not be a success in the wild cat package.

Joemailman
03-31-2010, 05:21 PM
Having addressed their greatest defensive weakness with the selection of Brandon Graham, the Patriots will address the running game. Laurence Maroney hasn't really been the answer, and was in Belichick's doghouse last year because of fumbling problems. Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor and Kevin Faulk are all over 30. Therefore, with the 44th overall pick in the draft, the New England Patriots select:

Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/Jonathan-Dwyer.php

Strengths:
Excellent size --- Good athlete --- Nimble feet --- Changes directions well and shows some wiggle through the line --- Plays faster than he times --- Strong, powerful downhill runner --- Good vision --- Hits the hole with authority and doesn't dance around --- Breaks a lot of tackles and will run through or over defenders --- Fierce stiff arm --- Real tough and durable --- Doesn't have too many miles on his tires --- Productive.

Weaknesses:
Has had issues with weight and conditioning --- Is not very elusive in space --- Lacks great speed --- Will have trouble getting outside and turning the corner --- Is very raw as a blocker --- Limited experience as a pass catcher and route runner --- Must adjust to a pro style offense after working in the option --- Questionable motor and aggressiveness.

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 05:27 PM
Miami doesnt need Tim Tebow, they should have went after a OLB to replace Porter with the 2nd pick. Tebow will be no where near the runner in the NFL that he was in college and I believe he would not be a success in the wild cat package.

Like I said, it's a surprise pick and most people won't be on board with it. I will agree that he isn't a player they need (Aaron Rodgers) and they do need a OLB but the NFL draft is full of surprises (Justin Harrell/Darius Heyward-Bey) from every team so, as much as we like to criticize when someone makes a pick we don't agree with, in reality we have no idea what teams are going to do until they actually draft a player. I'm guilty of doing this myself.

Tebow has a chance to run the ball and more importantly has the desire and attitude to be a winner. He has more intangibles than any other player in this draft, including the ability to be a leader on a team sorely in need of one, and if he turns into the passing threat some people think he will be than the sky's the limit. I will stand by this pick.

Joemailman
03-31-2010, 06:07 PM
jm is back on the clock with Denver's pick.

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 06:18 PM
It'll have to come later tonight. I spend a lot of time with these picks and I'm scheduled to take the girls to grandma's to decorate eggs. Maybe my next pick will be more to Brandon's suiting.

Bretsky
03-31-2010, 06:51 PM
It'll have to come later tonight. I spend a lot of time with these picks and I'm scheduled to take the girls to grandma's to decorate eggs. Maybe my next pick will be more to Brandon's suiting.


Just don't steal my guy Jim ! The Giants have been salivaing for about ten picks now

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 09:40 PM
It'll have to come later tonight. I spend a lot of time with these picks and I'm scheduled to take the girls to grandma's to decorate eggs. Maybe my next pick will be more to Brandon's suiting.


Just don't steal my guy Jim ! The Giants have been salivaing for about ten picks now

I'll trade you whomever you want for one of the three beautiful women in your avatar.

jmbarnes101
03-31-2010, 10:22 PM
Having locked up Dez Bryant and traded for Brady Quinn the Broncos are content with their skill position players. They do need another interior lineman and an inside LB as well as a player or two in the secondary (doesn't everyone). I'm going to go with the guy I've grown somewhat fond of while doing all of this research and would love for Green Bay to get in the second round. With the 45th pick the Denver Broncos select...

Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts

Ducasse is a massive mountain of a man at 6'4" and 335 pounds and is the type of player that Denver is looking to draft for their O-line now; mountains. They have a need at OG so Ducasse can play there and if they ever need a tackle he can swing out that way as well. He's another guy where the sky is the limit due to inexperience and a lack of major college competition though he has all the intangibles needed to be a force in this league. With the additions of Quinn, Bryant, and Ducasse the Broncos will now turn their attention to defense.

Daryl Washington, Sean Lee, and Devin McCourty were the other considerations at this spot.

Strengths:
Excellent size with a huge frame and long arms --- Tough, physical and aggressive --- Very strong --- Good athleticism and agility --- Quick and fires off the snap --- Light on his feet --- Gets an outstanding push in the run game --- Stout at the point of attack and can anchor --- Mobile with range to pull, get out in space and reach the second level --- Is feisty and competitive with a nasty on-field demeanor --- Zealous work ethic --- Is versatile --- Durable --- Experienced --- Considerable upside.

Weaknesses:
Questionable instincts and awareness --- Inconsistent leverage and pad level --- Footwork will need to be refined --- Average slide and mirror ability --- Trouble sustaining and falls off blocks --- Concentration and focus will wane at times --- Did not face a lot of quality competition.

Notes:
Last name is pronounced "DOO-cahss" --- Was a three-year starter for the Minutemen --- Born in Port Au Prince, Haiti and didn't come to the United States until 2002, when he was 14-years-old --- Earned 1st Team FCS All-American honors in 2009 --- Named 1st Team All-CAA in 2008 and 2009 --- Also fluent in French and Creole and didn't learn English until his freshman year of high school --- Was a team captain as a senior --- Could project to either tackle or guard at the next level and has experience at both positions --- Still raw and relatively new to the game but is an extremely intriguing prospect with all the physical tools as well as the top - notch intangibles needed to maximize his potential.

Bretsky and his NY Giants pick are on the clock and I have a feeling he's going to be happy.

Bretsky
04-01-2010, 02:53 AM
The Giants GM is toasting the cities and baffled as to why a first round talent would slip to him this far. This is not a need pick; but this guy is clearly the BPA on the board and one of the most explosive special team players coming out of the draft.

The Giants expect multiple Pro Bowl Years from their second round draft pick, Devin McCourtey, CB from Rutgers :!:

Joemailman
04-01-2010, 06:42 AM
The temptation is to go defense here. However, Wes Welker is coming off a serious injury, and Randy Moss is entering the final year of his contract. Therefore, Billy B takes a player who is not only a need, but who has as much upside as anyone left on his board. That player is

Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Demaryius-Thomas.php

Strengths:
Excellent height and bulk with long arms and large hands --- Very athletic --- Deceptive speed --- Great leaping ability --- Terrific ball skills and body control --- Vertical threat who makes plays downfield --- Real physical and aggressive --- Knows how to use his size --- Runs with power and will break tackles --- Nice vision --- Good strength --- Terrific stiff-arm --- Above average blocker --- Competitive --- Still has upside.

Weaknesses:
Will drop some passes --- A very unpolished route runner --- Not overly quick or explosive and lacks a burst --- Not real elusive and won't make defenders miss --- Pad level might be a problem --- Ability to beat the jam is a question mark --- Must adjust to a pro style offense --- Health?

Brandon494
04-01-2010, 06:46 AM
It'll have to come later tonight. I spend a lot of time with these picks and I'm scheduled to take the girls to grandma's to decorate eggs. Maybe my next pick will be more to Brandon's suiting.

It nothing personal man, I just don't like Tebow and think he'll be a bust in the NFL. QB is not a need for the Fins and not the BPA so I just found the pick odd. Also in the future I wouldnt try to use Harrell and Darius Heyward-Bey to make your case for drafting Tebow. :)

packrulz
04-01-2010, 07:18 AM
The Panthers defense really hasn't recovered since trading Cullen Jenkin's brother, Kris, to the Jets, and now they lost Julius Peppers in free agency, so defensive line help is needed. QB is a consideration, they released Delhome but John Fox likes Matt Moore, who was 6-2 as a starter last year. WR is a consideration, Dwayne Jarrett appears to be a flop and Steve Smith is always double and triple teamed.
The Panthers select:
Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota

Release: Very good quickness off the line even with his height and strong build. Gets to top speed fast but doesn't have a breakaway gear. Beats the jam using his hands and a sidestep. Recognizes holes in the defense, and looks for the ball immediately.

Hands: Excellent hands, extending them outside his body. Looks the ball in and doesn't let go under pressure. Good concentration in traffic; has the size and vertical to win jump balls. Brings in poorly thrown passes anywhere in his vicinity. Tracks the ball over both shoulders.

Route running: Lines up in the slot and on the sideline; runs all of the routes on the tree. Creates separation with his hands and speed down the sideline, providing nice target. Aware of the first down marker. Understands the offense very well. Works to get free if quarterback is in trouble. Inconsistent planting and driving on out routes.

After the catch: Has enough elusiveness and agility to be used on slip screens at 6-3, 215 pounds. Can stop quickly to let oncoming defenders fly by. Tightropes the sideline on deep patterns. Runs through arm tackles, but doesn't give out hits to smaller defensive backs to get additional yardage.

Blocking: Improved his blocking during his senior year, using his size to negate smaller cornerbacks on the edge. Instead of trying to cut his man or allowing corners to disengage early, as he did in previous seasons, Decker sought out contact and looked willing to sustain so running backs have room to roam when bouncing outside.

Intangibles: Natural athlete with good work habits. Played through high ankle sprain as much as possible last fall, and worked hard to return from knee surgery for bowl game following his junior season. Respected in the locker room.

NFL Comparison: Jordy Nelson, Packers

jmbarnes101
04-01-2010, 08:40 AM
The Giants GM is toasting the cities and baffled as to why a first round talent would slip to him this far. This is not a need pick; but this guy is clearly the BPA on the board and one of the most explosive special team players coming out of the draft.

The Giants expect multiple Pro Bowl Years from their second round draft pick, Devin McCourtey, CB from Rutgers :!:

He has been considered with almost every pick I made. He lost in a coin toss to Patrick Robinson, Miami selected Tebow, and Denver went with the big hog. He was second in all of those decisions but nice pick for the Giants.

jmbarnes101
04-01-2010, 08:44 AM
It'll have to come later tonight. I spend a lot of time with these picks and I'm scheduled to take the girls to grandma's to decorate eggs. Maybe my next pick will be more to Brandon's suiting.

It nothing personal man, I just don't like Tebow and think he'll be a bust in the NFL. QB is not a need for the Fins and not the BPA so I just found the pick odd. Also in the future I wouldnt try to use Harrell and Darius Heyward-Bey to make your case for drafting Tebow. :)

We're good.

I don't know, something tells me that Henne isn't the answer at QB either. There were times where he looked abysmal and he's not great. People also said Brady wouldn't ever become anything and look how that turned out.

As for the Bey & Harrell names, I was just showing how surprising the NFL draft can be. Most consider Davis absolutely bonkers but feel TT is a shrewd drafter yet they both took very surprising choices at positions that weren't absolute necessities; especially TT. He seems to do it more often than most with Harrell and Rodgers.

Brandon494
04-01-2010, 03:52 PM
The 49ers had their eye on Thomas Demaryius but he was taken just a few picks before so they have decided to go with the BPA.

With the 49th pick in the NFL draft the 49ers select CB Jackson Kareem

Overview


Jackson has an excellent combination of size and athleticism for the position. He is a very confident defender that will play tight to his opponent in both man and zone coverage schemes. Jackson shows great foot quickness burst and speed to stay with top receivers. He is an instinctive player that is quick to anticipate and jump routes as plays unfold. He is a competitive player but is inconsistent to as a run support defender. Jackson needs to rap up ball carriers better on the perimeter as well as corralling receivers in the open field. Kareem Jackson is an excellent football player that won’t last long on the first day of the 2010 draft if his shoulder checks out.-NFL.com


Strengths

Jackson possesses tremendous size for a corner and great athleticism. Has been a highly-productive player in a complex college scheme. Is a really instinctive performer against the run and pass. Has the aggressiveness and confidence we love to see in CBs and does a great job in man and zone coverage. Has the ball skills to make big plays.-NFL.com


Weaknesses

Durability (past shoulder surgeries) is the main area of concern with Jackson. He can be an inconsistent tackler both in run support when against receivers in the open field. Jackson takes too many chances at times and can be beaten for the big play.-NFL.com

packrulz
04-01-2010, 05:00 PM
mission is on the clock...

Freak Out
04-02-2010, 12:27 PM
I'm leaving town for the weekend so I nominate Joe the Mailman to pick for Jerry Jones. :lol:

jmbarnes101
04-02-2010, 01:19 PM
mission is on the clock...

After 24 hours does the pick move to you for selection?

Joemailman
04-02-2010, 04:16 PM
I'm leaving town for the weekend so I nominate Joe the Mailman to pick for Jerry Jones. :lol:

Actually, I'll be out of town for the weekend too. At any rate, looks like we'll be having a poll for the Packers selection before Jerry gets to pick.

Mission, if you're out there...You're on the clock and that dang alarm won't shut off. :wink:

packrulz
04-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Times up, I'll pick. The Chiefs drafted defense with their first 2 picks but they sorely need someone on offense to help out Bowe, Chambers is getting old and slow, and they really have done nothing to replace Tony Gonzalez.
The Kansas City Chiefs select: Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami (Fla.)

Overview
The word "upside" was made for athletic players like Graham, who has gone from solid basketball big man to big-time NFL prospect in the span of a few months. Comparisons to former Cal basketball star and future Hall-of-Fame tight end Tony Gonzalez are natural - and becoming more realistic every day.

A top 100 national recruit, Graham signed on to play hoops for the 'Canes in 2005. He started between nine and 11 contests in each of his four seasons, blocking 104 shots in 120 games. He joined the football team last August, and scored a touchdown on his first reception against Georgia Tech. He had a rough game the next week against Virginia Tech, with two important drops, but bounced back to finish the season strong. His 17 catches for 213 yards included five touchdowns, making him the sort of red-zone threat NFL teams covet at the tight end position.

Graham told scouts that football was his first love, even though he hadn't played since the ninth grade, and that he turned down six figures to play basketball overseas. He should earn a lot more than that if he continues to learn the game and improve as a blocker at such a fast rate. His ridiculous Combine testing (4.50 40, 38.5" vertical at 6-6) and nice week in Mobile at the Senior Bowl only heightened the interest from scouts - you can't coach his height and athleticism.

Analysis
Release: Uses his phenomenal athleticism to get out of the three-point stance and to top speed quickly. Able to sidestep and shimmy past safeties and linebackers at the line. Separates well downfield with long strides; no real second gear, however.

Hands: Hands improved throughout the season, concentrating more on the ball as the season went on and body-catching balls less and less. Has the hand-eye coordination to snatch balls out of the air from any direction and track over either shoulder. Hears footsteps over the middle and short-arms high passes that he has the ability to go up and get. His height and vertical are useful on jump balls in the end zone and on the hands team for onside kicks.

Route running: Excellent feet for routes; can sink and cut inside or outside quickly. Sells and sets up routes extremely well for an inexperienced player; safeties have no clue where he is going to go. Major threat down the seam because of his height and agility. Uses his solid frame to box out defenders over the middle.

After the catch: Extremely fluid and agile runner after the catch; can run away from smaller defenders with his long strides. Strong enough to run through arm tackles, hold off would-be tacklers with his long arms and fall forward for an extra couple of yards due to his height. Lacks vision, and typically is best catching the ball on the run. Can become more elusive with more time at the position.

Blocking: Very inexperienced blocker who needs to be more consistently physical on the edge. Has the length and build to extend and gets into position to wall off inside lane for defender, but doesn't have much pop or ability to sustain. Will help strong side tackle take the defensive end down the field on doubles. His size makes it tough for defenders to avoid his cut block but he is not technically sound. Misses targets on the run, and doesn't adjust well to oncoming defenders.

Intangibles: Has worked hard to improve his strength training and football knowledge since joining the team last summer. Suffered through a rough childhood to mature. Earned his degree in May 2008.

packrulz
04-02-2010, 04:50 PM
Lurker64 is on the clock...

Brandon494
04-02-2010, 06:14 PM
Graham is going to be a beast in the NFL, I know we have Finley but if he falls to us in the 2nd round I would be very tempted to draft him if I were TT.

packrulz
04-03-2010, 06:14 AM
Here's some of the top remaining players:
42) LaFell Brandon WR LSU
43) Wootton Corey DE Northw
44) Gronkowski Rob TE AZ
45) Williams Damian WR USC
46) Sapp Ricky LB Clemson
49) Allen Nate FS S FL
54) Spikes Brandon LB FL
55) Franks Dominique CB OK
56) McCluster Dexter WR MS
57) Jones Chad FS LSU
58) Houston Lamarr DT TX
59) Gerhart Toby RB Stanford
60) Misi Koa DE Utah
61) Cook Chris CB VA
62) Hernandez Aaron TE FL
64) Burnett Morgan FS GA Tec
66) Thomas Cam DT NC
67) Norwood Eric LB SC
68) McKnight Joe RB USC
69) McCoy Anthony TE USC
70) Jerry John G/T MS
71) Bowman Navorro OLB Pen St
72) Hardesty Montario RB TN
73) Lee Sean LB Pen St
74) Dickson Ed TE OR
75) Murphy Jerome CB S FL
76) Veldheer Jared OT Hillsdale
77) Worilds Jason LB/DE VA Tech
78) Cunningham Jermaine DE FL
79) Gilyard Mardy WR Cincin

jmbarnes101
04-03-2010, 05:46 PM
Packrulz,
We've gone over 1 day without a post. Care to make another selection or can I do it?

Is anyone still alive out there?

packrulz
04-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Packrulz,
We've gone over 1 day without a post. Care to make another selection or can I do it?

Is anyone still alive out there?
Go ahead, I'm hoping to get a third round in before the draft, we need to speed things up, you got Houston...

Lurker64
04-03-2010, 08:30 PM
To replace the departed Dunta Robinson, the Texans select:

Cornerback, Dominique Franks: Oklahoma, No. 1, CB, 6-0, 190

A tall, long corner who reads the action well in front of him and has a nose for the ball, Franks possesses an explosive first step for his size and does a great job of clicking and closing when he's able to squat on routes. He looks most comfortable when throws are in front of him and showcases impressive closing speed and ball skills when jumping routes. But he isn't technically sound in his drop and routinely gets too high in off-coverage and will open up his hips prematurely.

He showcases some natural balance initially in his back-pedal, but struggles to get back out of his breaks once he opens his hips. Franks is consistently forced to regain his balance when trying to close. But he does have natural body control and the ability to stop on a dime and work back toward the ball once he gets his hands on the receiver. Franks showcases good straight-line speed and has the ability to open up his hips and track the ball vertically. He exhibits excellent ball skills in coverage and showcases the coordination to consistently adjust his body to the play and break on the pass. He likes to keep his eyes in the backfield but will get caught ball-watching and has a tendency to lose track of his man in coverage. He's blown his share of assignments during his time at Oklahoma and needs to pay more attention to detail.

Franks isn't a physical tackler, is long-armed and does a nice job playing off blocks, but he doesn't generate much power on contact and is more of a drag-down guy. Overall, he's a gifted size/speed corner who can close on the ball in front of him. But he isn't a technically sound corner, struggles to keep his feet under him and needs a lot of work in order to hold up in man coverage at the next level. His playing style reminds me a lot of former Buccaneers first-round pick Aqib Talib.

jmbarnes101
04-03-2010, 08:44 PM
Nice to have you pick Lurker. I was just going to put in a Safety but I'd much rather you pick for them.

swede
04-03-2010, 10:40 PM
Am I on the clock?

You guys have been running through the D backs like crazy, and Pittsburgh has to be thinking to replace some departed players in those positions as well.

packrulz
04-04-2010, 05:09 AM
swede, time to put down your beer and draft, you're on the clock...

swede
04-04-2010, 10:51 AM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Jerome-Murphy.php


Pittsburgh liked Kareem Jackson a lot, but San Fran got him with the 49th pick, and the Steelers still need help in the defensive backfield, as does everybody else apparently from the way this draft is unfolding; there's nothing like a good corner, bringing us to the subject of Jerome Murphy. He's nothing like a good corner either--not yet anyway.

This guy is classic boom or bust. Can he grow up and listen to his coaches? Can he develop the discipline, commitment, and emotional maturity needed to learn and grow? Because he sure has everything else needed to be a star. He's worth the gamble at this point, and eight CB's are already off the board.

Listen...Jerome...YOU AIN'T ALL THAT! This is your chance. Don't blow it. You've got a chance to become part of something special. Grow the hell up and take advantage of this chance.



With the 52nd pick of the 2010 draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Jerome Murphy, cornerback from South Florida.

packrulz
04-05-2010, 06:22 AM
Joemailman is on the clock...

Joemailman
04-05-2010, 05:42 PM
Not really liking what is available here. This is where Billy B would probably trade down if he could. That not being possible, he will again bolster a WR corp that just didn't have enough behind Moss and Welker, who injured his knee at the end of the season.

Therefore, with the 21st pick in the 2nd Round, the New England Patriots select

Damian Williams WR USC

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Damian-Williams.php

Strengths:
Ideal height --- Naturally athletic and extremely smooth --- Soft, reliable hands --- Terrific concentration --- Good body control and ball skills ---A decent leaper --- Excellent route runner --- Elusive with impressive vision and instincts after the catch --- Tough and not afraid to work the middle --- Hard Worker --- Team Player --- Contributes as a return man.

Weaknesses:
Has a thin build --- Just average speed --- Not very explosive --- Does not get a lot of separation --- Not really a vertical threat --- Isn't very strong or powerful --- Has some issues with ball security --- Gives solid effort but just an average blocker --- Durability is a concern --- Upside ?

Joemailman
04-05-2010, 06:03 PM
Bengals could go WR here, but they did just sign Antonio Bryant, so they are not in need of an immediate starter. Instead they look to bolster the Safety position. Both Chris Crocker and Roy Williams are 30, and Williams was signed to a 1 year contract.

Therefore, with the 22nd pick of the 2nd round, the Cincinnati Bengals select

Nate Allen S South Florida

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/S/Nate-Allen.php

Strengths:
A smooth athlete --- Good height with a chiseled physique --- Excellent range --- Outstanding instincts --- Great hands and ball skills --- Fluid hips --- Nice body control --- Excels in zone coverage --- Technically sound --- Closes fast --- Tough --- Physical --- Reliable tackler --- Great motor --- Smart --- Hard worker --- A lot of experience --- Team leader.

Weaknesses:
Frame is maxed out --- Pure speed is just average --- Struggles when asked to match up with wideouts in man coverage --- Plays too tall at times --- Isn't a real big hitter --- Not very quick or explosive --- Upside?

Joemailman
04-05-2010, 06:36 PM
With Westbrook gone, Eagles will be looking for someone to give them the kind of explosiveness catching passes out of the backfield that Westbrook gave them.

Therefore, with the 23rd pick in the 2nd round, the Philadelphia Eagles select

Dexter McCluster RB Mississippi

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/Dexter-McCluster.php

Strengths:
Outstanding natural athlete --- Explosive with great acceleration and a burst --- Excellent quickness and agility --- Super elusive --- Nice vision and instincts --- Strong and extremely tough --- Physical and plays much bigger than his size would suggest --- Good balance and doesn't go down easily --- Soft, reliable hands --- Amazing competitor --- A fantastic work ethic --- Leader --- Considerable special teams potential.

Weaknesses:
Severely undersized --- Small 8⅜-inch hands --- Has some issues with ball security --- Will struggle between the tackles --- Is not a polished route runner --- Gives it his all but just an average blocker --- 'Tweener without a true position and not an every-down player --- Doesn't have a lot of experience in the return game --- Durability is a major concern.


The Green Bay Packers are on the clock!!! :cow:

pbmax
04-05-2010, 06:41 PM
Fire up the second round poll!

Rat voters on the clock.

mission
04-05-2010, 08:25 PM
Sorry guys, just got back to the US... had no contact (by choice)!!

Thanks for covering

Bretsky
04-05-2010, 09:40 PM
With Westbrook gone, Eagles will be looking for someone to give them the kind of explosiveness catching passes out of the backfield that Westbrook gave them.

Therefore, with the 23rd pick in the 2nd round, the Philadelphia Eagles select

Dexter McCluster RB Mississippi

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/Dexter-McCluster.php

Strengths:
Outstanding natural athlete --- Explosive with great acceleration and a burst --- Excellent quickness and agility --- Super elusive --- Nice vision and instincts --- Strong and extremely tough --- Physical and plays much bigger than his size would suggest --- Good balance and doesn't go down easily --- Soft, reliable hands --- Amazing competitor --- A fantastic work ethic --- Leader --- Considerable special teams potential.

Weaknesses:
Severely undersized --- Small 8⅜-inch hands --- Has some issues with ball security --- Will struggle between the tackles --- Is not a polished route runner --- Gives it his all but just an average blocker --- 'Tweener without a true position and not an every-down player --- Doesn't have a lot of experience in the return game --- Durability is a major concern.


The Green Bay Packers are on the clock!!! :cow:


DAM

I kind of wanted to see if he'd win the PR poll

Fred's Slacks
04-05-2010, 10:11 PM
Here's some guys that might make sense:

46) Sapp Ricky LB Clemson
57) Jones Chad FS LSU
58) Houston Lamarr DT TX
59) Gerhart Toby RB Stanford
60) Misi Koa DE Utah
61) Cook Chris CB VA
64) Burnett Morgan FS GA Tec

I'm leaning towards Jones right now but Sapp and Misi are intriguing.

Brandon494
04-05-2010, 11:10 PM
I'd think I would go with Ricky Sapp

Sapp is an undersized, athletic defensive end who has growth potential. He is a competitive player but tends to be more of a finesse defender against the run. He shows good initial quickness off the line of scrimmage as an edge rusher with the ability to close well to the quarterback. Sapp is a solid reacter who has enough agility and quickness to stand up as an outside 'backer in a 3-4 defensive scheme. His size, versatility and athleticism should bode well as a special-teams contributor, as well as providing depth to a defense at the next level

Strengths

Sapp has been a productive player during his career. Has the versatility to play defensive end in a 4-3 and outside linebacker in a 3-4. Is an extremely athletic front-seven defender who can get to the quarterback with the speed rush and is comfortable playing in space. Durable during his time in college. Plays with good instincts, including in coverage.

Weaknesses

At this point, Sapp is undersized and only possesses average power to hold the point of attack when teams run at him. Does have the frame to add bulk. Needs to be more consistent with his hand use and must do a better job disengaging from blockers.

swede
04-06-2010, 07:40 AM
Toby.

He'd be a great 4th quarter running back for us. We could finish out games hammering the ball with a fresh back bringing different skills.

Brandon494
04-06-2010, 09:04 AM
Toby is the same type of running back as Grant, we need a third down running back who can catch out of the backfield. Plus our need for a pass rusher is greater than RB. We can pick up a good RB later in the draft, can't say that about a pass rusher. Toby will be a bust anyway.

Joemailman
04-06-2010, 03:20 PM
I know round 2 isn't over, but are we doing round 3?

packrulz
04-06-2010, 05:03 PM
I know round 2 isn't over, but are we doing round 3?
Yes, I would like to do round three, I'll count you in. We will need to hurry up the draft process, so from now on GM's will only have 8 hours to make a pick, so check in often. If you don't make the pick, I will do it. Anyone else that wants to do round three let me know, I'd like each GM to take 3 teams.

Brandon494
04-06-2010, 06:51 PM
I'll take the Cardinals, 49ers, and Browns.

jmbarnes101
04-06-2010, 06:58 PM
I'm in. Doesn't really matter who I get in the end but if we're allowed to request I'd like Falcons, Eagles and something from Bears/Broncos/Dolphins.

Fred's Slacks
04-06-2010, 07:11 PM
I'll take the Bills again if we do round 3.

swede
04-06-2010, 07:19 PM
I'm going to pass. I'm out of monkey poo to fling at the Top 100 board.

I've got one little turd left to make my last pick for the Jets.

Joemailman
04-06-2010, 10:19 PM
I'll take Cardinals and Bengals. Patriots don't have a pick in Round 3.

1 (65) Rams -- --
2 (66) Lions -- --
3 (67) Buccaneers -- --
4 (68) Chiefs -- --
5 (69) Raiders -- --
6 (70) Eagles (From Seahawks) -- --
7 (71) Browns -- --
8 (72) Bills -- --
9 (73) Dolphins -- --
10 (74) Jaguars -- --
11 (75) Bears -- --
12 (76) Giants -- --
13 (77) Titans -- --
14 (78) Panthers -- --
15 (79) 49ers -- --
16 (80) Broncos -- --
17 (81) Texans -- --
18 (82) Steelers -- --
19 (83) Falcons -- --
20 (84) Bengals -- --
21 (85) Browns (From Patriots through ...) -- --
22 (86) Packers -- --
23 (87) Eagles -- --
24 (88) Cardinals (From Ravens) -- --
25 (89) Cardinals -- --
26 (90) Cowboys -- --
27 (91) Chargers -- --
28 (92) Browns (From Jets) -- --
29 (93) Vikings -- --
30 (94) Colts -- --
31 (95) Saints -- --
32 (96) Bengals (Compensatory selection) -- --
33 (97) Titans (Compensatory selection) -- --
34 (98) Falcons (Compensatory selection) --

Bretsky
04-06-2010, 10:24 PM
RAMS
CHARGERS
VIKINGS

OS PA
04-07-2010, 01:48 AM
I guess now that I'm back to posting you can give me two or three teams.

packrulz
04-07-2010, 05:31 AM
I guess now that I'm back to posting you can give me two or three teams.
Welcome back! I posted round three on page 1, please note that some teams have more than one selection. The real draft is coming up fast, so from now on I'll check in at 7AM and 7PM central time, your picks will need to be in by then or I'll pick for you. There are still some openings in round three if anyone else wants to draft.
mission is on the clock...

packrulz
04-07-2010, 05:32 AM
With 27 votes in Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson is the winner, time to continue the draft, mission is on the clock...

Overview
After 22 career starts, Clemson had Ricky Sapp play more of a linebacker role in 2009 despite the fact that he was coming off a partially torn ACL in his right knee.

The position switch paid off. Sapp posted career highs in tackles (60) and tackles for loss (15), registering five sacks (tying his career high) and a forced fumble.

The rangy and explosive Sapp has flashed playmaking ability since backing up former the late Gaines Adams. He appeared poised for a breakout season in 2008, tying his career high with 10 tackles for loss at defensive end, before partially tearing the ACL in his right knee. Sapp's 10 tackles for loss in 2008 came in just 347 snaps, as opposed to the 620 at the same position in 2007.

Though he had 16 career sacks, Sapp's explosive first step makes him one of the more intriguing pass rushers of the 2010 draft. He'll struggle to add the weight necessary to remain at defensive end in the 4-3 scheme and isn't experienced enough for most teams running this alignment to project him to linebacker. He's best suited to be a rush linebacker in the 3-4 scheme. Only his injury history may keep him out of the top 50 selections.

Analysis
Read & React: Appears to have the instincts to handle the transition to linebacker. Has been asked to primarily rush the passer as a defensive end, but quickly locates the ball and has the agility and acceleration to change direction. Hustles downfield in pursuit.

Run defense: Lacks the bulk necessary to stack and shed as a defensive end. Can get bulled over in the running game and relies on his lateral agility and swim move to get past blocks, but too often takes himself out of the play. To his credit, Sapp hustles downfield and makes many of his plays in pursuit, showing the straight-line speed and agility necessary to move to linebacker.

Pass defense: Intriguing potential, despite his limited experience in coverage. Has a rare combination of straight-line speed and agility for his size. Drops into coverage as a zone defender from his defensive end position and shows good balance and the agility to re-direct in space. Good straight-line speed.

Tackling: Effective drag-down tackler from behind. Wraps up securely when taking on ballcarriers laterally or head-on. Flashes explosiveness as a hitter, but too often is a catch tackler. Needs to add strength, especially in his upper body.

Pass Rush/Blitz: Natural pass rusher. Experienced standing up and with his hand on the ground. Explosive burst and good flexibility to get under the tackle's reach and around the edge. Active hands and a good swim move to get past the initial blocker. Lacks strength to bull rush NFL offensive tackles. Relies on his agility to get past the blocker. Struggles to disengage once tied up.

Intangibles: Better athlete than football player. Will require an extensive Combine medical check after multiple injuries while at Clemson, including a partially torn ACL in his right knee in 2008. Top prep prospect who signed with Clemson over Oklahoma, Florida State and Georgia. Three-year South Carolina regional champion in the 100 meter (10.76), 200 meter (21.0), and 4x100 meter relay in high school.

Positives: Lanky build with plenty of room for additional muscle mass, especially in his upper body.

Negatives: Often generates pressure off the edge, but only has 12.5 sacks in 33 games. Lacks strength at the point of attack. Lacks the bulk to stack and shed blocks when properly engaged.

NFL Comparison: DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys

RashanGary
04-07-2010, 06:12 AM
I'll take Chiefs and Raiders.

Brandon494
04-07-2010, 07:53 AM
I'll take Cardinals and Bengals. Patriots don't have a pick in Round 3.

Sorry Joe but I already took the Cardinals, 49ers, and Browns.

mission
04-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Baltimore continues to find support for Joe Flacco... they select Brandon LaFell LSU

packrulz
04-07-2010, 03:17 PM
The Cardinals took Mays in the first, they like Koa Misi but they could use a pass catching TE like: Rob Gronkowski ,TE, AZ

Freak Out is on the clock...

packrulz
04-07-2010, 03:19 PM
I'll take Cardinals and Bengals. Patriots don't have a pick in Round 3.

Sorry Joe but I already took the Cardinals, 49ers, and Browns.
The Cards have 2 picks in the third round so I gave one to each of you.

Brandon494
04-07-2010, 03:24 PM
I'll take Cardinals and Bengals. Patriots don't have a pick in Round 3.

Sorry Joe but I already took the Cardinals, 49ers, and Browns.
The Cards have 2 picks in the third round so I gave one to each of you.

Yea thats the reason I wanted them :D

Its plenty teams open, let him pick another one.

Fred's Slacks
04-07-2010, 04:02 PM
I'll take the texans third round pick.

packrulz
04-07-2010, 05:14 PM
Selection Team
1 St. Louis(packrulz)= Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma.
2 Detroit(Fritz)= Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska.
3 Tampa Bay(red)= Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma.
4 Washington(3irty1)= Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame.
5 Kansas City(Lurker64)= Eric Berry, S, Tennessee.
6 Seattle(gbpackfan)=Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State.
7 Cleveland(pbmax)=Joe Hayden, CB, Florida
8 Oakland(Freak Out)=Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
9 Buffalo(ND72)=Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
10 Jacksonville(bobblehead)=Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
11 Denver (from Chicago) (Lost coin toss vs. Jaguars)(jmbarnes101)=Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
12 Miami(Charles Woodson)=Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
13 San Francisco (Lost coin toss vs. Titans)(Brandon494)=C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
14 Seattle (from Denver)(gbpackfan)=Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
15 N.Y. Giants(red)=Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
16 Tennessee(mazzin)=Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
17 San Francisco (from Carolina)(Brandon494)=Earl Thomas, CB/S, Texas
18 Pittsburgh(swede)=Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
19 Atlanta(mission)=Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
20 Houston (Lost coin toss vs. Falcons)(Lurker64)=Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
21 Cincinnati(joemailman)=Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa
22 New England(joemailman)=Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
23 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers
24 Philadelphia(Justin Harrell)=Tyson Alualu, DE, Cal
25 Baltimore(mission)=Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
26 Arizona(packrulz)=Taylor Mays, FS, So. Cal.
27 Dallas(red)=Charles Brown, OT, USC
28 San Diego(mazzin)=Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
29 N.Y. Jets(swede)=Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
30 Minnesota(mngolf19)=Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
31 Indianapolis(Brandon494)=Brian Price, DT, UCLA
32 New Orleans(Bretsky)=Everson Griffin, DE, USC

Second round
Pk Sel # Team
1 33 St. Louis(jmbarnes101)=Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
2 34 Detroit(JustinHarrell)=Golden Tate, WR, ND
3 35 Tampa Bay(jmbarnes101)=Patrick Robinson, CB Florida State
4 36 Kansas City(Lurker64)=Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU
5 37 Washington(pbmax)=Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana
6 38 Cleveland(pbmax)=Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
7 39 Oakland(Lurker64)=Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
8 40 San Diego (from Seattle)(Brandon494)=Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
9 41 Buffalo(Fred's Slacks)=Jared Odrick DT (now DE) Penn St.
10 42 Tampa Bay (from Chicago)(jmbarnes101)=Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
11 43 Miami(jmbarnes101)=Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
12 44 New England (from Jacksonville)(joemailman)=Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
13 45 Denver(jmbarnes101)=Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG Massachusetts
14 46 N.Y. Giants(Bretsky)=Devin McCourtey, CB Rutgers
15 47 New England (from Tennessee)(joemailman)=Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
16 48 Carolina(packrulz)=Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
17 49 San Francisco(Brandon494)=Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
18 50 Kansas City (from Atlanta)(packrulz)=Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami (Fla.)
19 51 Houston(Lurker64)=Dominique Franks CB, OK
20 52 Pittsburgh(swede)=Jerome Murphy, CB, South Florida
21 53 New England(joemailman)=Damian Williams WR USC
22 54 Cincinnati(joemailman)=Nate Allen S South Florida
23 55 Philadelphia(joemailman)=Dexter McCluster RB Mississippi
24 56 Green Bay(packerrats poll selection)=Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson
25 57 Baltimore(mission)=Brandon LaFell LSU
26 58 Arizona(packrulz)=Rob Gronkowski ,TE, AZ
27 59 Dallas(packrulz)=Morgan Burnett, FS, GA Tec
28 60 Seattle (from San Diego)(JustinHarrell)=Lamaar Houston, DT, Texas
29 61 N.Y. Jets(swede)=Cory Wootton, Defensive End, Northwestern
30 62 Minnesota(Bretsky)=Chris Cook, CB, Virginia
31 63 Indianapolis(Bretsky)=Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
32 64 New Orleans(Bretsky)=CHAD JONES, S, LSU
Round Three:
1 (65) Rams(Bretsky)=KOA MISI, OLB, UTAH
2 (66) Lions(OS PA)=Toby Gerhart, RB Stanford
3 (67) Buccaneers(packrulz)=Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA)
4 (68) Chiefs(JustinHarrell)=Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
5 (69) Raiders(JustinHarrell)=John Jerry, OT, Mississippi
6 (70) Eagles (From Seahawks)(jmbarnes101)=Daryl Washington, OLB TCU
7 (71) Browns(Brandon494)=Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
8 (72) Bills( Fred's Slacks)=Cam Thomas DT North Carolina
9 (73) Dolphins(Joemailman)=Dekoda Watson OLB Florida State
10 (74) Jaguars(packrulz)=Sean Lee, ILB Penn State
11 (75) Bears (jmbarnes101)=Jon Asamoah, OG Illinois
12 (76) Giants(Joemailman)=Major Wright S Florida
13 (77) Titans(packrulz)=Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
14 (78) Panthers(packrulz)=Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina
15 (79) 49ers (Brandon494)=Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas
16 (80) Broncos(OS PA)=Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
17 (81) Texans(Fred's Slacks)=
18 (82) Steelers(OS PA)=
19 (83) Falcons(jmbarnes101)=
20 (84) Bengals(Joemailman)=
21 (85) Browns (From Patriots through ...)(Brandon494)=
22 (86) Packers(packerrats poll selection)=
23 (87) Eagles(jmbarnes101)=
24 (88) Cardinals (From Ravens)(Brandon494)=
25 (89) Cardinals(Brandon494)=
26 (90) Cowboys
27 (91) Chargers(Bretsky)=
28 (92) Browns (From Jets)(Brandon494)=
29 (93) Vikings(Bretsky)=
30 (94) Colts(JustinHarrell)=
31 (95) Saints(JustinHarrell)=
32 (96) Bengals (Compensatory selection)(Joemailman)=
33 (97) Titans (Compensatory selection)(packrulz)=
34 (98) Falcons (Compensatory selection)(jmbarnes101)=

Guiness
04-07-2010, 07:01 PM
The Redskins select QB Jimmy Clausen from Notre Dame. Russell Okung is mighty tempting but the Redskins have no business passing on a franchise QB. Clausen might be the most NFL ready Jr. QB to ever enter the draft.

This that might change with the recent developments?

Joemailman
04-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Just a reminder the 2nd round isn't over. Freak Out is on the clock with Dallas.

packrulz
04-08-2010, 06:50 AM
Times up. The Cowboys are focused on improving their offensive line, especially after the releasing long-time starting LT Flozell Adams. They also sent FS Ken Hamlin packing so they could take advantage of a deep incoming class at that spot. They are thrilled that Morgan Burnett, FS, GA Tec, is still there. He should start right away.
Analysis
Read & React: Reliable instincts for the position. Diagnoses the play and accelerates quickly to the ball, showing little wasted motion. Understands his role as the last line of defense and takes good angles to limit the damage.

Man Coverage: A bit high in his backpedal, but can flip his hips to turn and run with receivers. Changes direction quickly enough that he was often asked to drop down as a nickel cornerback and appears to have the fluidity and break on the ball to do so at the next level. Good hand strength to press at the line of scrimmage. Keeps his hands on the receiver at the start of his route to disrupt timing with the quarterback. Quick, active hands to fight with the receiver as the ball arrives. Good ball skills (14 career INTs).

Zone Coverage: An alert zone defender, Burnett understands his role and the role of his teammates. Recognizes holes in the zone and is quick to react. Sneaks a peek back at the quarterback and breaks on the ball quickly. Has the straight-line speed and agility to change direction necessary in being a true centerfielder in three-deep coverage and the range for two-deep.

Closing/Recovery: Sneaks a peek into the backfield to read the quarterback's eyes. Generates speed quickly out of his breaks and shows a late burt to close. Locates the ball quickly and competes for the jump ball. Highpoints the ball and has the body control and strength in his hands to come down with the contested interception.

Run Support: Willing and active in run support. Attacks the line of scrimmage, but will take questionable angles to the ball and is too often forced to re-direct at the last moment and latch on for a drag-down tackle, rather than applying a forceful pop. Willing to take on blockers, but prefers to elude and make the tackle himself.

Tackling: Flashes some pop as a hitter. Can be an intimidating presence over the middle. Often leads with his shoulder rather than wrapping up. Generally a reliable wrap-up open-field tackler. Takes questionable angles when coming down in run support, forcing himself to lunge and latch on to the ballcarrier attempting to cut back against him. Has the strong, accurate hands to grab hold for the pull-down tackler, but this is an area in which he could improve. Stronger NFL runners will be able to break away from his arm tackles.

Intangibles: Elected to leave early despite what some characterized as a "disappointing" 2009 season. Signed with Georgie Tech as a highly touted prep prospect. Received offers from Alabama, Florida and Georgia. First career touchdown came on an INT return against 2009 No. 1 draft pick Matthew Stafford in 2008.

Justin Harrell is on the clock...

Fritz
04-08-2010, 07:08 AM
I just want to say in what sexual fantasy is Anthony Davis available in the first round at #23? I haven't seen any mocks fall that way. He's usually mocked between 10-18, I think.

jmbarnes101
04-08-2010, 08:11 AM
I just want to say in what sexual fantasy is Anthony Davis available in the first round at #23? I haven't seen any mocks fall that way. He's usually mocked between 10-18, I think.

The one's in which people have different ideas of someone. When it happened he was rumored to be slipping due to character concerns.

RashanGary
04-08-2010, 10:20 AM
Seattle thought about Monterio Hardesy, RB and Veldheer, OT to fill needs. hardesy's knee issues scared us off and Veldheer, we just don't feel completely comfortable with right now.

Instead, we take advantage of an incredibly deep DL draft and go BPA. We've already added a DE with a hell of a first step and loads up upside in JPP. Now we're going with . . .


Lamaar Houston, DT, Texas.

Pass rush: Extremely agile for a 300-pounder and works relentlessly to reach the quarterback. Gets under the shoulder of his man if lined up in the gap or slanting. Beats most cut blocks with quickness and strong hands and is able to recover from initial stalemate to get after the passer. Good backfield awareness. Gets his hands up to deflect passes, though his height and length leave something to be desired. Dangerous on twists inside. Short arms cause him to work harder to get off blocks against top-level guards. Must improve pass-rush moves.

Run defense: Excellent pursuit down the line. Upper body and hands are strong enough for him to pull down ballcarriers while engaged with blockers. Regularly lines up at the five-technique, standing his ground against larger linemen using a strong punch and leverage. Stays square to the line, able to move laterally while engaged. Lacks the bulk play inside on run downs at the next level.

Explosion: Has a good first step, but not elite first-step quickness. Lines up with two hands down so often he must prove to scouts he can get off quickly from the three-technique; his ability to penetrate on slants shows he's capable. Gets his hands into a blocker's jersey quickly and pushes them back using leverage and brute strength.

Strength: Massive upper body. Should wow teams pumping bench-press reps at the Combine. Plays strong and has a good punch with violent hands to disengage. Uses low center of gravity to keep leverage against the run. Holds up larger lineman and double teams but will be engulfed by larger NFL linemen, unable to disengage when head-up.

Tackling: Very strong tackler, comes with aggression and does not let go once in contact with the ballcarrier. Agile enough to get through trash inside. Good flexibility and strength to bring down backs coming through the hole. Good burst to the quarterback once through the line. Does not break down in space and lacks the change-of-direction skills to capture elusiveness quarterbacks and running backs, but will chase them down with hustle and good straight-line speed.

Intangibles: Very competitive. Has an above-average motor and is willing to play hurt. Generally quiet, but took over vocal defensive line leadership role as a senior. Suspended for one game in 2008 after DWI arrest. Parents are both ministers.



Not quite as athletic as Suh, McCoy and Alualu, but close. In any other draft, he could be talked about as a first round pick. We nab him up and hope for some help in the 3rd - 7th rounds to fill our needs.

RashanGary
04-08-2010, 10:27 AM
I would take the Colts and Saints too, if they're open.

RashanGary
04-08-2010, 11:05 AM
Swede on the clock, then the Bretsky trio.

swede
04-08-2010, 01:16 PM
The New York Jets select Cory Wootton, Defensive End, Northwestern.


http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/DE/Corey-Wootton.php


If this kid slips to the third round he sounds like a heck of a player.

packrulz
04-08-2010, 02:32 PM
Swede on the clock, then the Bretsky trio.
Bretsky quadruple.

Bretsky
04-08-2010, 06:39 PM
The Vikes are surprised a future stud CB falls this far; the Vikings select Chris Cook, the CB from Virginia

Bretsky back in three hours for his threesome picks

Fritz
04-08-2010, 09:23 PM
I just want to say in what sexual fantasy is Anthony Davis available in the first round at #23? I haven't seen any mocks fall that way. He's usually mocked between 10-18, I think.

The one's in which people have different ideas of someone. When it happened he was rumored to be slipping due to character concerns.

Good point. That's what sexual fantasies are all about.

Don't get me wrong - I'd be okay with that pick. I just haven't seen him mocked that low.

Brandon494
04-08-2010, 09:40 PM
I just want to say in what sexual fantasy is Anthony Davis available in the first round at #23? I haven't seen any mocks fall that way. He's usually mocked between 10-18, I think.

The one's in which people have different ideas of someone. When it happened he was rumored to be slipping due to character concerns.

Good point. That's what sexual fantasies are all about.

Don't get me wrong - I'd be okay with that pick. I just haven't seen him mocked that low.

No one saw Aaron Rodgers falling to us either but I'm glad he did. :D

Fritz
04-08-2010, 10:06 PM
I just want to say in what sexual fantasy is Anthony Davis available in the first round at #23? I haven't seen any mocks fall that way. He's usually mocked between 10-18, I think.

The one's in which people have different ideas of someone. When it happened he was rumored to be slipping due to character concerns.

Good point. That's what sexual fantasies are all about.

Don't get me wrong - I'd be okay with that pick. I just haven't seen him mocked that low.

No one saw Aaron Rodgers falling to us either but I'm glad he did. :D

How true that is.

Bretsky
04-08-2010, 10:12 PM
[quote="Bretsky"]The Vikes are surprised a future stud CB falls this far; the Vikings select Chris Cook, the CB from Virginia

Overview
Cook has the size, speed and experience to surprise in the NFL. Injuries and academics proved to be his downfall at Virginia.

An immediate impact defender, Cook played in the first five games of his career -- he earned a start against Boston College in week five -- before a broken leg put him on the shelf for the rest of the 2005 season.

He came back strong to start 11 of 12 games in 2006, leading the UVA secondary with 58 stops. The injury bug hit him again in 2007, however, as he missed three games with a sprained knee. Academics became a problem, too. He was suspended for the Gator Bowl and missed the entire 2008 season. Having to earn back his starting spot, Cook enjoyed a strong senior campaign, posting a career high 10 pass breakups and four interceptions in '09.

Cook's strong senior season and solid week of practice at the Senior Bowl made him relevant with scouts again. His long frame and quick hands make him an intriguing option for teams using press coverage. His size and range make him a potential candidate to convert to safety, though he's been too inconsistent as an open-field tackler to believe that will be a seamless transition.
Analysis
Read & React: A step slow reacting to the play if he doesn't see it coming. Keeps his head on a swivel and will sneak a peek at the quarterback. Isn't able to generate the quick burst to close on the ball -- has long legs and only marginal foot quickness. Allows too many easy receptions. Does not possess the second gear to catch up when beaten vertically.

Man Coverage: Good hands for press coverage. Provides a stout initial pop and has the flexibility to turn and run with receivers. Strong, active hands to keep the receiver close throughout the early route. Doesn't have the flexibility and quick feet to mirror receivers, but is faster than he looks and is able to cheat back to the ball.

Zone Coverage: High backpedal, but has a smooth enough swivel to change direction. Good vision and route recognition for zone coverage. Reads the passer to make up for his lack of preferred burst.

Closing/Recovery: Has only marginal burst to make up ground quickly, though he does have at least moderate straight-line speed. Locates the ball and takes proper angles. Quick hands and good hand-eye coordination to knock away passes. Good size, body control and timing to compete for jump balls. Good ball skills. Best when facing the quarterback and some will grade him as a potential safety.

Run Support: Good size and strength to fight through blocks and make tackles in run support, but has to show more consistency. Doesn't use his hands well enough to disengage and prefers to elude blocks. Questionable toughness for the transition to safety.

Tackling: Generally reliable drag-down tackler. Good strength and long arms for the wrap-up stop. Isn't the physical defender his size would indicate. Too often is the nail, rather than the hammer, catching the ballcarrier and hanging on rather than driving through the ballcarrier. Lowers his head, which can lead to missed tackles. Good hustle downfield.

Intangibles: Twice suspended for academics while at Virginia, missing the 2008 Gator Bowl at the end of the 2007 season and the entire 2008 season. Considered leaving early for the NFL draft, but instead returned and emerged as a team leader in 2009. Voted a team captain in '09.
2009 Season
Cook led the Cavaliers with four interceptions in 2009 and was a key part of a defensive unit that ranked fourth in the ACC and 21st in the country in pass defense. The Lynchburg native started all 12 games for the Cavaliers in 2009, finishing the season with 10 passes defended-ninth best in the ACC. For his career, Cook tallied 143 total tackles, seven interceptions and 19 pass breakups.

Bretsky
04-08-2010, 10:19 PM
INDY COLTS
The Colts have been stung off an on with the injury but and are looking for another playmaker on the DL. They go with their BPA on defense and note that you can never have enough pass rushers on the team.

The Indianapolis Colts Select Tyson Alualu, DT from the University of California

Yes, that's two DL with the first two picks

The AFC can PREPARE FOR OUR PAINOverview
Alualu was considered a top prospect as a prep and made an immediate impression upon arriving in the Pac-10. He stepped into the rotation as a true freshman, playing in every game, earning his first start and finishing with 16 tackles on the year.

He began a streak of 38 consecutive starts as a true sophomore, leading the Golden Bears with 52 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and 2.5 sacks. His career-high 62 tackles was the highest single-season total by a Cal defensive lineman since current Washington Redskin Andre Carter posted 60 in 2000. Despite facing constant double-teams, Alaalu matched Carter's 60 as a senior, picking up 10 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks to finally earn first-team All-Pac-10 recognition.

Quick, strong and passionate, Alualu's production is even more impressive considering he played defensive end in the 3-4 alignment -- a position typically defined as a block-consuming, role-playing spot more than a stat-producing position. Scouts believe Alualu's numbers would be even more impressive if he were playing in a 4-3 defense. He appears better suited to be a "three technique" defensive tackle.

Had Alaalu played in the Big Ten or SEC, more would know his name. Considering the impressive career he had at California, don't expect scouts to forget to include him among the Top 50 selections come April.

Analysis
Pass rush: Has a good initial burst and hand placement to get into the pads of the offensive tackle and drive him into the pocket. Lacks sustained speed off the edge to rush the passer as a defensive end and likely will be moved inside to tackle in the NFL. Marginal technique as a pass rusher. Relies on a bull rush and strong hands to disengage and uses mostly effort to collapse the pocket. Shows a spin move, but it is slow to develop and generally ineffective.

Run defense: Good initial quickness off the snap. Good lateral agility and balance to slide down the line against the toss and make the tackle at or near the line of scrimmage. Uses his natural leverage advantage and overall strength to anchor at the point of attack. Good upper-body strength to stack and shed in the running game.

Explosion: Provides good initial pop when meeting the blocker. Shows explosiveness in his hands with his ability to shed blocks and gives high effort to close, but only marginal burst.

Strength: Looks lighter on film than his listed weight, but plays with good strength at the point of attack.

Bretsky
04-08-2010, 10:46 PM
LETS ALL SAY IT TOGETHER

SAINTS.....CHAMPIONSHIP

Got their briliant coach
Luck'd out with the dumb Dolphins failing Brees on a physical and got their QB
And then have been amazing mixing free agency with stellar drafts

Kudos

The Saints are retooling their defense and need to now add an athlete in the secondary.

The Saints are happy a stud fell in their laps

The NO Saints select.............

CHAD JONES...SAFETY FROM LSU

Chad Jones, LSU, 6-2, 221, 2: Though he's projected as a strong safety, that might be a bit of a misnomer for Jones, who managed nine bench-press repetitions of 225 pounds at the scouting combine. Jones rejected a large signing bonus from the Houston Astros, opting to play baseball and football for the Tigers. As a sophomore, he moved from nickel cornerback to starting free safety and collected 74 tackles, six pass breakups, three interceptions and had a 93-yard punt return for a touchdown. He is excellent in run support and closes well, but he must improve his backpedal. Jones posted a 2.70 ERA as a left-handed reliever in LSU's run to the 2009 College World Series championship. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY


Career Notes
Played in 40 games, starting 19 times, including all 13 games in 2009 … Opted to forgo his senior season at LSU to enter the NFL Draft … Standout in both football and baseball at LSU, winning national titles in both sports (2007 in football, 2009 in baseball) … A former 13th-round draft pick by the Houston Astros in the 2007 Major League Baseball Draft … Emerged as a key relief pitcher for the baseball team while also seeing time in the outfield … Joined Jared Mitchell as the only two players in college history to claim a BCS national title and a baseball national title … The two also became the second and third athletes in school history to win a national title in multiple sports, joining Bennie Brazell, who won team titles in football and track and field during his career with the Tigers … Brother Rahim Alem was also a member of the LSU football team and the two played together for the Tigers for three years.

2009 Season
LSU's starter at free safety in all 13 games in 2009 … Served as LSU's punt returner when backed up against its own endzone … Fifth on team in tackles with 74 … Led team with three interceptions, including two against Louisiana-Lafayette in Week 3 … Other interception came against Arkansas that halted a first quarter drive deep in LSU territory … Broke up a total of six passes … Had eight tackles, one forced fumble, one PBU, a blocked kick and a tackle for a 3-yard loss in what was his final game in an LSU uniform against Penn State in the Capital One Bowl .. Had season-best 12 tackles against Florida …

Was named National Defensive Player of the Week by the Walter Camp Foundation and SEC Special Teams Player of the Week for his outstanding performance at Mississippi State

… Recorded eight tackles against Mississippi State and batted down a pass in the endzone to help preserve LSU's victory with just over one minute left in the game … Returned a punt 93 yards for a touchdown against Mississippi State to give LSU the go-ahead points - the second-longest punt return in LSU history … Tallied two interceptions, four tackles and one pass breakup against Louisiana-Lafayette, marking the first time a Tiger had a multiple-interception game since Chris Hawkins had two interceptions at Auburn in 2008.

Analysis
Read & React: Still developing in this area. Sneaks a peek at the quarterback and takes some false steps. Quick to accelerate once he locates the ball. Struggled a bit early with questionable angles, but improved throughout the season.

Man Coverage: High and choppy backpedal because of his long legs. Good balance and sufficiently loose hips to change direction. Quick acceleration. Saw action in 27 games, including six starts, as nickel corner in 2008-09. Locates the ball and has good body control to make the leaping interception. Adjusts in the air and times his leap well. Good ball skills and the vision, agility and straight-line speed to generate yards after the interception.

Zone Coverage: High in his backpedal, but gains good depth on his drop. Allows the receiver to get too close before he turns with him, at times, allowing for small openings. Can do a better job of locating receivers in his zone.

Closing/Recovery: Closes downhill quickly and is a reliable open-field tackler. Trusts his own athleticism, but can be beaten over the top when he allows the receiver to eat up his cushion. Good straight-line speed, but lacks the elite second gear.

Run Support: One of his stronger areas. Attacks downhill and is an intimidating hitter. Good vision and anticipation to feel where the back is going and avoids blockers well. Has to improve fighting through blockers once engaged.

Tackling: Reliable open-field tackler. Breaks down well in space to make the secure stop against quicker athletes. Heavy hitter will occasionally lead with his shoulder to make the intimidating hit to protect the middle. Has shown the explosiveness to knock the ball free. Has four career forced fumbles.

Intangibles: Highly touted prep prospect ranked No. 1 among safeties by some scouting services. Team's primary punt returner in 2009 when backed up due to his reliable hands and strength to break tackles. Was given a 2nd-3rd round grade in the MLB draft, but slipped to the 13th round because he planned to play football. Turned down a $745,000 contract from Houston. Originally played in the outfield before dazzling coaches with his pitching ability. Jones retired five of the six batters he faced in the National Title game victory over Texas, striking out two. Good bloodlines. Brother, Rahim Alem, was LSU's starting defensive end and is also an NFL prospect. Nicknamed "Dreads of Doom" due to his dreadlocks.

Bretsky
04-08-2010, 11:16 PM
Needing Just about everything, the Rams select a versatile player that will bring a nice presence to there defense. They think he can become a dominant pass rusher

THE ST LOUS RAMS SELECT KOA MISI, DL from UTAH


Overview

Misi (pronounced mee-see) proved ready for big-time football after winning all-conference honors in his only season at Santa Rosa Junior College. Whether lining up as a pass-rushing linebacker or with his hand on the ground -- even playing tackle when needed -- he terrorized opposing quarterbacks for the Utes.

The son of a former player for Hawaii, Misi has been among the team leaders in tackles the past three seasons, increasing his output from 65 to 68 to 71. He also improved his tackles for loss (8, 8.5, 9.5) and sacks (2.5, 3, 5) and forced three fumbles in both 2008 and '09. He was named second-team All-Mountain West as a junior and first-team all-conference this fall.

Maybe the Utes' most gifted athlete, Misi is quick enough to chase down backs and strong enough hold his ground on the edge, making him an ideal 3-4 outside linebacker. Add in his toughness and instincts, he's a probable top 75 pick for teams using any base scheme.


Career Notes

All-conference candidate may be the best defensive lineman in the Mountain West Conference … has played in all 26 games and started in 24 since joining Utah as a sophomore JC transfer … 16.5 tackles for loss in his first two years … best suited for end, he can also play tackle, where he started in 2007 … very strong (can squat 545 pounds) and athletic (36" vertical jump) … fastest U. defensive lineman also led the position in the spring agility tests.
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OS PA
04-08-2010, 11:50 PM
The Lions are feeling really good about their draft and there is no reason that the good feelings should stop. They got a star DT with their first pick and found a player to line up on the other side of Megatron. Jared Veldheer is an intriguing option here, because of his potential and Jeff Backus is getting a little long in the tooth. Backus has started the last 144 games for Detroit at LT, but he is far from an all star player and the priority for this team from here on out is keeping Stafford standing. Veldheer could step in at RT from day one and train to be the future LT, but the Lions line just took a major step forward with their trading for Rob Simms. The GM almost writes Veldheers name down on the draft card, but he doesn't. Instead he calls up the 2009 Doak Walker award winner, a 2009 Heisman finalist, and a consensus All-American and asks if he'd be willing to lace up the cleats for the Lions in 2010.

With the 66th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the Detroit Lions select Toby Gerhart, RB Stanford


Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
Toby Gerhart comes into the 2010 NFL Draft as perhaps one of the most athletically gifted big backs. He started one game -- played in eleven -- as a freshman in 2006 on his way to lead the team in rushing with 403 yards on 106 carries (3.8 ypc.). He had a monster game against San Jose State in 2007 (141 yards, 11.75 ypc. with a TD) before hurting his knee, forcing him to miss the entire season. Then he got a medical redshirt that fall, but he came back with a vengeance the following year as he became only the fifth back in Stanford's history to topple the 1,000 yard mark (1,136). He also posted the school's second best ground scoring effort (15 TDs). All of this in the background of an impressive 101-1 TD effort against arguably the best defensive front seven in PAC-10 history (USC Trojans).

Gerhart has good size with well developed upper body strength. He is a good athlete who has also played baseball for the school's highly touted team. A straight-ahead runner who is best between the tackles, Gerhart has good vision, making him able to read blocks well. He is powerful and runs with good pad level. He is just an average blocker who shows a solid base to anchor against the blitz; he was used sparingly as a receiver, but when thrown to, he is able to routinely catch the football.

He has deceptive speed (4.55), but can't consistently turn the corner. Gerhart also does not have a second gear, and has limited experience pass blocking. His route running is inconsistent, at best and he has a poor feel for reading coverage. Gerhart is a player without a position; he is not fast enough to be a future back and not big enough to be a fullback.

Gerhart is a good, overall prospect with limited upside. His lack of explosiveness will most likely confine him to an H-back type of role in the NFL.

Gerhart proved at the NFL Combine that he is right in the mix with some of the other running backs in this class. He delivered a 4.53 40 and that was huge with many considering him a pure power back. He is not a playmaker like C.J. Spiller or Jahvid Best, but he is a running back who can take some hits. The same cannot be said for Spiller or Best. In the end, Gerhart should be a late first round or early second round selection and be right in there with Jonathan Dwyer and Ryan Mathews when running backs start flying off the board late in the first round.

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Brandon494
04-09-2010, 02:20 AM
Toby Gerhart is not a 1st round talent wont be off the board til the 3rd round.

packrulz
04-09-2010, 05:30 AM
Please note: Tyson Alualu was selected in the first round, so, to save time, I substituted Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia for the Colts.

Arrrr, the Buccaneers have lots of needs but they filled some huge holes with DT Gerald McCoy and CB Patrick Robinson already, they look for help on special teams and defense with a tall, small school project who returns punts/kicks and can play safety:Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB Indiana (PA)
Overview
After two years playing behind veteran corners for IUP, Owusu-Ansah came into his own as a junior in 2008 and grabbed the spotlight as a senior. He should follow in the footsteps of former Division II standout cornerbacks Ricardo Colclough, Drayton Florence and Danieal Manning as a top-100 pick.

With eight interceptions and 10 pass breakups in 2008, teams stayed away from Owusu-Ansah last fall. His 27 tackles, two interceptions and four pass breakups were good enough for first-team All-Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference-West and second-team AP Little All-American honors.

He was also all-conference as a return specialist. Owusu-Ansah returned three punts and two kickoffs for touchdowns in '09. In the previous two seasons, he had averaged 10.7 yards on 48 punt returns and 24.8 yards on 33 kickoff returns -- returning one punt and one kickoff for TDs in the 2007 season.

Scouts note his size, speed and hands on the corner and noticed his ability to play through a shoulder injury this fall (which kept him out of postseason all-star games) and his versatility. Owusu-Ansah lined up at safety quite often to take advantage of his centerfielder skills and could be used there in the NFL. Whether teams view him as a cornerback or safety, they'll value his skills. Defensive backs with size, speed, hands and return skills aren't easy to find.

Analysis
Read & React: Reads his receiver carefully on the outside and is quick to jump routes once a hint is given. Reads the quarterback well and has the speed to the ball in the deep half as a safety. Baits the quarterback into thinking the seam route is open.

Man Coverage: Has prototypical size to be a press corner. Plays with aggression at the line but usually lined up 10 yards off, apparently per coaches' instructions. Shows good flexibility and very good feet in his pedal, staying low and transitioning well. Typically takes up inside position instead of backpedaling, waiting for the receiver to make his move before jumping the route; gets turned around if receiver breaks inside. Often forces quarterback to look in another direction.

Zone Coverage: Could flourish in a zone system as a free safety or corner. His size and speed give him good range, and he is strong enough to snatch the ball from the grasp of receivers. Fluid moving from the hash to the sideline. Excellent hands for the interception and is always a threat to take the ball to the end zone. Must prove he has the discipline to come off one receiver to cover another coming into his area.

Closing/Recovery: Closes on the ball in the air quickly. Gives too much cushion, but his size, closing speed and long arms allow him to stop plays or immediately bring down the ballcarrier. Jumps slant routes when playing off-man. Has the speed and change-of-direction agility to recover on stop-and-go routes. Plants and drives out of his backpedal effectively.

Run Support: Used primarily as a cover corner playing off the line, Owusu-Ansah did not often come up in run support. He will come off his man to chase down ballcarriers, though, taking good angles to prevent big plays. Has the size to be effective crashing down from the outside and generally disengages from receiver blocks, but physicality is still a question mark.

Tackling: Has the size and strength to limit yards after the catch. Has long, well-built arms to wrap up ballcarriers. Averaged roughly on tackle per game -- the ball didn't come his way often and he was not involved in many run plays. Heads toward the pile but often runs around it instead of entering the fracas. Needs to prove himself a secure tackler before teams consider moving him to safety.

Intangibles: Confident and emotional on the field. Highly successful at a lower level of competition, but must acclimate quickly to the routes run by receivers from major programs. He missed an opportunity to prove himself against the big boys in all-star games because of a shoulder injury. His return skills were formidable at the D-II level, but should translate; he hits a hole quickly, shows good vision, runs through arm tackles and has the speed to beat the angle. Displays patience to let blocks develop on interception and kickoff returns.

NFL Comparison: Charles Tillman, Chicago Bears

Justin Harrell is on the clock...

RashanGary
04-09-2010, 07:12 AM
Chiefs select Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale

RashanGary
04-09-2010, 07:19 AM
Raiders take Tim Tebow

Brandon494
04-09-2010, 09:16 AM
Raiders take Tim Tebow

Tebow has already been drafted by the Fins

jmbarnes101
04-09-2010, 10:13 AM
Since the Raiders never do anything they should do I'm going to post my pick since I won't get another opportunity to do so between now and 7:00 tonight.

The Eagles have made a lot of changes on both offense and defense and just traded two more players in Sheldon Brown and Chris Gocong to the Browns for extra draft picks. Looks like the Eagles are going to attempt to rebuild on the fly.

Earlier in the draft the Eagles added DT Tyson Alualu and RB Dexter McCluster. The Eagles however need help on defense more than on offense so we're going back to that side of the ball. With CB picked over and a surprise player still left on the board, honestly would take this guy over Sapp or any of the others we were looking at, the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Daryl Washington, OLB TCU

I'm not sure how Washington lasted until the 3rd round when he's one of the top pure OLB's available in the draft but the Eagles are certainly happy he's still around. While Washington may not be as good of a prospect as teammate Jerry Hughes this 6'2", 230 lb man can be a solid starter for someone. He's also a solid and ready Special Teams guy and will help out there right away.

Rest courtesy of NFLdraftscout.com (don't have access to NFLdraftcountdown from work)
Overview
The loss of four-year starting inside linebacker Jason Phillips to the NFL put Washington under the microscope. He helped TCU repeat as the FBS' top-rated defense in terms of total yardage (sixth in scoring) by leading the team with 109 tackles, 11 for loss, two sacks and three interceptions.

Washington had never started regularly before 2009. He had been a solid contributor, making a strong statement on special teams his first two seasons by blocking four kicks and leading the kick coverage units.

As he gained playing time in 2008, he showed the awareness and tackling technique to match his strong frame and athleticism. The three pass breakups and six tackles he had against Boise State in the Poinsettia Bowl, his second start of the season, helped to get scouts excited about his future.

Although Washington's frame is slight, NFL teams using 3-4 schemes have used similar players inside. He could also slide to the strong side for a 4-3 team because of his coverage skills. Either way, the speed and toughness he showed during Senior Bowl week and sub 4.6 40 at the Combine give him a shot to be drafted in the first two rounds.

Analysis
Read & React: Relies on quick reactions rather than great instincts. Explodes into running lane and can smother underneath throws in zone coverage. Will get sucked in by play-action, but is fast enough to recover from a false step.

Run defense: Runs like a safety; has the straight-line speed to hustle downfield and chase to the sideline. Attacks and slides by fullbacks coming out of the hole, but will also lose the ball or overpursue the play. Knifes through holes when attacking stretch plays. Long arms help him bring down backs when he doesn't break down but lacks the strength to do the same at the next level. Runs around blocks inside and is inconsistent taking on blocks and using his length to get free.

Pass defense: Fluid in space. Can be too upright when dropping into zone coverage. Nice sideline-to-sideline range. Able to identify and stay with receivers in his zone and run with any tight end down the seam. Closes on the ball in the air. Keeps an eye on the receiver and one on the quarterback; will come off his guy to make a play. Tough for quarterbacks to throw over and Washington -- and in front of safeties. Struggles to intercept passes, even when he jumps the pattern and the ball is thrown into his hands.

Tackling: Not an explosive tackler. Drags ballcarriers to the ground using his length. Needs to sink his hips instead of tackling shoulder pads. Must improve his angles to the ball against quicker NFL ballcarriers. Tries to cut ballcarriers instead of bringing his hips. Could be a special teams coverage contributor with his speed and aggressive mentality.

Pass Rush/Blitz: Explosive as an inside blitzer, and will reach the quarterback from a stack formation. Uses his speed and/or hands to get past running backs, guard cut blocks and through traffic inside. Has the change-of-direction ability to corral quarterbacks coming off the edge.

Intangibles: His growth as a player throughout out his career in Fort Worth speaks to his upside as a linebacker. Willing and capable special teams force. Solid character and work ethic.

NFL Comparison: D'Qwell Jackson, Cleveland Browns

RashanGary
04-09-2010, 10:25 AM
Raiders take John Jerry, OT.

swede
04-09-2010, 12:10 PM
Raiders take Tim Tebow

In the NFL version of the draft I'd love to see Roger Goodell head up to the podium and bring the Raiders' card back saying, "Try again, Al, Tebow's off the board."

I don't see how it's impossible for a team to screw up; I do think that the NFL would catch the problem first.

What I wonder is, would we ever find out if a team had tried to pick a player and had to do a do-over?

Brandon494
04-09-2010, 02:56 PM
I had to check three times because I could not believe he was still on the board but with the 72nd pick in the NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select...


Brandon Spikes

Spikes is a big, strong physical defender that missed some time in 2009 after being suspended for a game due to an on the field incident early in the season. Spikes is best attacking the line of scrimmage and is a solid tackler in the open field. He uses his hands well to ward off blockers and leverage the ball and understands angles and run fits in the Gators defense. He is an instinctive player that is best versus the run but appears to have limitations in coverage. Spikes is quicker than fast and reacts quickly as plays develop but will need lots of technique work (especially defending the pass) at the next level. Spikes has excellent blood lines and is a good football player that brings attitude and leadership to the linebacker position.

Strengths

Spikes has an outstanding combination of size, strength and toughness for the inside linebacker position. Is a highly-competitive performer who was the heart and soul of his Florida defense. Highly- productive player who earned All-American status. Displays impressive athleticism in multiple facets including in coverage where he’s a playmaker. Supremely instinctive reactor who is extremely quick to diagnose plays and find the football. Has been very durable.

Weaknesses

Can be overly emotional at times. Spikes only possesses average long- speed which limits his range against the run and ability to play in man coverage, Only has average change of direction in space and can be beaten by counter plays. Flashes the ability to effectively blitz but has not been very productive yet in this area.

packrulz
04-09-2010, 04:13 PM
Good pace guys, Fred's Slacks is on the clock...

There are still some open teams needing a GM:
Jaguars
Giants
Panthers
Cowboys

Fred's Slacks
04-09-2010, 04:18 PM
The Bills badly want to get a QB in this draft but by now, the ones who can step in right away are long gone. So they are pleasantly supprised that a guy they might have considered trading back into the second for is still available and will fill a huge (pun intended) hole in their new 3-4 front.

With their 3rd round pick the Bills select Cam Thomas DT North Carolina.

Joemailman
04-09-2010, 04:45 PM
Good pace guys, Fred's Slacks is on the clock...

There are still some open teams needing a GM:
Jaguars
Giants
Panthers
Cowboys

I'll take the Giants.

packrulz
04-09-2010, 05:02 PM
Good pace guys, Fred's Slacks is on the clock...

There are still some open teams needing a GM:
Jaguars
Giants
Panthers
Cowboys

I'll take the Giants.

You got them, and you're on the clock...

Joemailman
04-09-2010, 05:07 PM
With the FA acquisition of Karlos Dansby, WR and OLB now become the biggest areas of need for the Dolphins. Carlton Mitchell is a consideration, but the Dolphins will go with edge rusher Dekoda Watson OLB Florida State

Strengths:
Terrific athleticism --- Very good speed --- Quick with a burst --- Great change of direction skills --- Long arms --- Reliable tackler --- Sideline-to-sideline range --- Does a nice job in pursuit --- Able to match up in coverage --- Tough --- Smart --- Competitive --- Hard worker --- Leader.

Weaknesses:
Severely undersized --- Doesn't play strong --- Average instincts and awareness --- Has trouble getting off blocks --- Will get pushed around at times --- Will not be a fit for every system --- Durability is a concern.

packrulz
04-09-2010, 06:01 PM
The Jags of course signed free agent Aaron Kampman and drafted Derrick Morgan in round one so they're set at DE, QB Tony Pike is considered, but the defense still needs linebackers, so they select: Sean Lee, ILB Penn State

jmbarnes101 is on the clock...

jmbarnes101
04-09-2010, 11:00 PM
Due to trades they made last year to acquire Jay Cutler and Gaines Adams the Bears are without a draft pick in the first two rounds of this years draft. That doesn't mean they haven't done anything to change their team however. After going to the Super Bowl in 2006 the Bears are now starting to break up that team and bring in others. They seemed to be the big winners in free agency landing Julius Peppers,Chester Taylor, and Brandon Manamaleula. They've also let go of some former key players on defense such as Alex Brown and Nathan Vasher and the sudden and unexpected death of Gaines Adams didn't help either.

With the entire front office and coaching staff on the hot seat it will be interesting to see how this year goes for this team and after bringing in former coaches Mike Martz and Mike Tice, Lovie Smith shouldn't be too comfortable this year.

The questions for the Bears are many but two of them are how much will Mike Martz change this offense and can the defense rebound to close to previous levels.

While some would say that one of the Bears major needs is WR but their two biggest needs are on the offensive line and in the secondary.

With their pick the Chicago Bears select...

Jon Asamoah, OG Illinois

While the Bears could use a Free Safety, there isn't one available worth drafting at this spot so the Bears turn towards the other spot they really need help with. Cutler was under duress a lot last year and Asamoah, while better in a zone blocking system, should be able to help keep pass rushers off Cutler just a bit longer to help him complete passes to his downfield targets. Smart, committed, and willing to take direction Asamoah can play OG and C and should be able to compete for a starting spot from day 1.

Analysis courtesy of Nfldraftcountdown.com
Strengths:
Ideal height and bulk --- Is super athletic --- Quick and Agile --- Nimble feet --- Nice balance and body control --- Terrific mobility and range to pull and get to the second level --- Able to recover when beat --- Good strength --- Violent hand use --- Is stout at the point of attack --- Can move defenders off the line --- Very Smart --- Has a fantastic motor and finishes his blocks --- Tough --- Extremely Versatile --- A great work ethic -- Competitive --- Leader --- Durable --- Lots of quality experience.

Weaknesses:
Short arms --- Doesn't always utilize proper leverage --- Will bend at the waist --- Gets caught reaching and lunging --- Not overly powerful and won't manhandle opponents --- Average instincts and awareness.

Notes:
Last name is pronounced "ass-uh-MOW-uh" --- A three-year starter for the Fighting Illini --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2009 --- Could project to either guard or center at the next level and might even be able to play tackle in a pinch --- Didn't miss any games in college but suffered a shoulder injury (fractured scapula) during the Senior Bowl practices --- Also excelled in the classroom and earned Academic All-Big Ten honors --- Good all-around player who is effective in pass pro and as a run blocker --- Possesses a superb mix of physical tools and intangibles --- Best fit may come in a zone blocking scheme --- Profiles as an NFL starter and will at the absolute least be a valuable backup.

Joemailman
04-09-2010, 11:13 PM
After losing Kenny Phillips to a serious knee injury, the Giants' secondary was a disaster. So much so that they signed Aaron Rouse. Even if Phillips makes a complete recovery, the Safety position is a major problem for the Giants.

Therefore, the Giants will select Major Wright S Florida

Strengths:
Adequate height and ideal bulk --- Good timed speed with a burst and closes in a hurry --- Great instincts --- Extremely physical --- Reliable tackler and a knockout hitter --- Active with a terrific motor --- Does a fantastic job against the run --- Good range --- Nice hands and ball skills --- Big special teams potential --- A lot of high - quality experience.

Weaknesses:
Not overly explosive or athletic --- Stiff --- Hips aren't fluid and doesn't transition well --- Will struggle to match up in man coverage --- Too aggressive and gets out of control at times --- Takes some bad angles

packrulz
04-10-2010, 05:25 AM
Tennessee already lost DE Kyle Vanden Bosch to Detroit and isn't expected to re-sign C Kevin Mawae. DE Jason Babin and CB Tye Hill were signed, but defensive end and cornerback remain the two biggest areas of need. The Titans select: Javier Arenas, CB Alabama

Overview
With an SEC-record seven punt returns for touchdowns, Arenas might be known more for his agility, vision and acceleration as a return specialist, but these skills proved to be just as effective over his final two seasons as a starting cornerback -- which is why he's flying up draft boards.

Highly touted as a prep athlete due to his return skills, Arenas made an immediate impact for the Tide as a freshman. He returned two punts for scores -- including an 86-yarder against Oklahoma State in the Independence Bowl that broke school and bowl records, but did not register a tackle.

He saw the field as a valuable backup in the secondary as a sophomore, registering 20 stops, including two tackles for loss. Again, however, his return skills earned him the most attention, as Arenas returned a punt 61 yards for score against LSU and averaged 24.3 yards per kickoff and 15.4 yards per punt -- both good enough for second all-time in Crimson Tide history.

Arenas was even better as a junior, returning three punts (87, 80 and 73 yards) for scores and emerging as an all-conference selection at cornerback with 63 tackles, eight passes broken up and an interception, which he naturally returned for a touchdown.

Arenas returned his record-breaking seventh punt for a score against Chattanooga as a senior, but otherwise saw his average drop slightly as teams simply refused to kick to him. If his production as a returner was disappointing in 2009, Arenas' play at cornerback and as an all-around defender certainly was not. Despite missing the South Carolina game due to bruised ribs, Arenas finished with a staggering 71 tackles, 12.5 tackles for loss, five sacks and five interceptions. He was at his best in the big games, essentially ending the contest against Florida in the SEC Championship Game with an end zone interception of Tim Tebow and securing two interceptions in the national title game. Arenas has a short, stocky build well-suited to playing inside in nickel coverage. He boasts rare foot quickness, balance and instincts and has proven a reliable open-field tackler and productive blitzer. Despite his staggering production, Arenas lack of height and below-average straight-line speed will be a problem for teams using man coverage -- though zone teams may still value him as a top 120 prospect.

Analysis
Read & React: Good anticipatory skills. Reads the action and breaks on the ball quickly. Can be beaten with good play-action fakes. Lacks the deep speed to recover and has to be protected over the top by a safety.

Man Coverage: Flashes an aggressive pop at the line of scrimmage when in man coverage. Good lateral agility to turn and run with receivers. More quick than fast, and can be beaten over the top if left alone in man coverage.

Zone Coverage: Alert and active defender when in zone. Reads the action quickly and gets a good break on the ball, especially on short and intermediate routes. Disciplined defender and reliable tackler.

Closing/Recovery: Lacks the straight-line speed needed to recover if beaten initially. Quick feet and possesses a very good first step to accelerate out of his breaks to close. Has good leaping ability, but lacks the height teams prefer and can be beaten by bigger, taller receivers. Natural hands and an obvious threat with the ball in his hands.

Run Support: Aggressive fighting through blocks to come up in run support. Highly active defender and an effective open-field tackler.

Tackling: Secure open-field tackler who breaks down in space against shifty athletes. Not a big hitter, but wraps his arms around his target with good drive for a player his size. Struggles some against bigger receivers, but has good strength to drag them down quickly.

Intangibles: Knack for returning punts/kicks didn't just develop in college -- he set the record for Robinson High School in Tampa with seven returns for touchdowns as a senior. Good athletic bloodlines. Cousin, Gilbert Arenas, plays in the NBA for the Washington Wizards.

packrulz
04-10-2010, 05:41 AM
The Panthers released strong-side linebackers Na'il Diggs and Landon Johnson, and defensive tackles Ma'ake Kemoeatu and Damione Lewis leaving important openings, the Panthers select: Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina

Overview
Joseph's name was not expected to be on the league's final list of 53 underclassmen declaring for the draft, but NFL teams are likely to be happy it was. The former Florida state weightlifting champion and all-state football star decided to leave the Pirates, at least partially due to head coach Skip Holtz leaving ECU for Tampa to take over at South Florida.

The first-team All-Conference USA performer (60 tackles, 22 solo, 13 for loss, three sacks) combines strength and an ability to pressure the quarterback very rarely found in someone his size. He was an immediate contributor for ECU, making 40 tackles, 8.5 for loss, with four starts in 13 games as a freshman. Joseph then earned honorable mention all-conference honors with 43 tackles, eight for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

Joseph's potential is intriguing, but there are questions about his functional strength and stamina, which could limit his value to some teams. Others might end up drafting him higher than his ability warrants because of a pressing need at the position.

Analysis
Pass rush: Looks like a nose tackle but plays like a three-technique, penetrating and getting consistent pressure when fresh. Good closing speed for his size, swallows up quarterbacks that lack great elusiveness. Straight-ahead runner, however with limited lateral quickness, will not break down to change direction in the backfield.

Run defense: Adequate anchoring against double-team blocking due to thick legs and a wide upper body and will move to the ballcarrier after he's through the line. Can be moved and doesn't rip off blocks to stop the play before it starts. Willing to chase down the line and downfield between the tackles if he sees the ball in his area. Susceptible to the cut block. Not strong enough to arm tackle backs in the hole.

Explosion: Surprising quickness off of the snap for his size, gets into his gap in a hurry when fresh. Does not deliver much pop to his opponent with his hands on initial contact, however, relying on athleticism to get the job done.

Strength: Does not play as strong as you would think because he plays high and does not consistently use his hands to disengage. Does not reset his hands, get leverage by getting his hands under pads, or attempt to churn his legs after contact to push his man into the backfield.

Tackling: Length and wide body allows him to engulf players in his path. Gives effort to chase, can be effective when well rested. Gets a lot of assisted tackles because of his hustle. Does not sink his hips when approaching the ball, however, and is easily eluded by quicker players in space.

Intangibles: Part of a rotation inside, possibly due to stamina issues. Looks to be winded when playing two consecutive series. Dropped 70 pounds after his freshman season (came to EUC at more than 370 pounds) due to a back injury, regained 20 before 2008 season.

Brandon494 is on the clock...

Brandon494
04-10-2010, 09:55 AM
With the 79th pick in the NFL Mock Draft the 49ers select...

Dezmon Briscoe

Overview

Briscoe is a talented receiver that has been plagued with inconsistencies. He builds to speed more than being explosive or instant but does show a gear to pull away once he gets even with defenders and can run down some deep balls. He is not as physical or aggressive to the ball when in a crowd as you’d expect for someone with his size. If he can mature both physically as well as emotionally he has a chance to become a quality second receiver.


Strengths

Briscoe has really nice size. Has been extremely productive in college. Has a nice set of hands and can grab the errant throw, fight for the jump ball and extend and catch away from his body. Is a surprisingly effective player after the catch. Is natural with the ball in his hands, can make defenders miss, and has a natural feel for finding open seams.

Weaknesses

Briscoe needs to become a more consistent performer. Isn’t overly sudden and builds to speed as he goes. Doesn’t eat up cushions quickly. Occasionally hears footsteps over the middle and gets alligator arms. Needs to become more reliable catching the ball in traffic.

OS PA on the clock....

OS PA
04-10-2010, 01:08 PM
The Denver Broncos are on the clock and after bolstering their offense in the first two rounds with Dez Bryant, WR, and Vlad Ducasse, OT, they are looking to start pumping more talent into their defense. The signing of Jamaal Williams was a huge(pun intended) step in the right direction for their 3-4. Elvis Dumerville was arguably the most improved player from last year. Brian Dawkins still has "it". Champ Bailey has lost a step, but is still among the best corners in the league. But, the Broncos are severely lacking in DE talent as well as their linebacking core, which leaves a lot to be desired.

Thaddeus Gibson is an intriguing prospect, but at 6'2 243 he is undersized for a 3-4 end. However by running a 4.5/4.6 at the combine and showing incredible athleticism during drills, Gibson is considered to be able to make the leap to 3-4 OLB where he could be a force as an outside pass rusher. The Broncos were so close to making the playoffs last year, and they have picks later in the draft that could be spent on developing a OLB from a DE, so they decide to pass on Gibson for a collegiate linebacker that could step in and rush the passer from day one.

Greg Hardy, DE, Navarro Bowman, OLB, and Alex Carrington, DE are considered here as well, but the GM goes a different direction.

With the 80th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina

Norwood is a short, well-built player that has been the Gamecocks' most productive defender over the past three seasons. He plays out of control at times, not leveraging the ball or maintaining his gap responsibility. He is a solid tackler, keeping good balance and wrapping effectively in the open field. Norwood isn’t a powerful hitter but does keep his pads over his feet which make him an efficient tackler. He is an instinctive player that reads quickly as both a run and pass defender. Norwood shows decent range in coverage but may be a liability in pure man schemes. He possesses strong hands to control blockers on contact and his low-center of gravity makes him tough to get off his feet. Norwood is a good football player that does have some limitations and discipline concerns (angles, leverage, etc.) but has enough tools to be a solid contributor at the next level.

Strengths
Norwood’s a player who’s at his best when the lights are on. He’s a tough, competitive player who was highly productive in college. Doesn’t have any durability questions. Is an efficient tackler who can really break down in space and wrap up. Solid athlete and effective blitzer who displays good hand use and has a great motor in pursuit.

Weaknesses
For a player who loves to rush the passer, Norwood lacks ideal height. He can take inconsistent angles and needs to improve defending the run on the edge. Plays undisciplined at times within the defensive scheme. Can be caught out of position. Can play in coverage but could struggle in man against backs at the next level.

packrulz
04-10-2010, 01:14 PM
Freds Slacks is on the clock...

OS PA
04-10-2010, 01:32 PM
Just to get my next pick out of the way, because I'm not sure if I'll be around tonight. The Texans got their running back earlier so there shouldn't be a problem, but if Fred picks the player that I picked, just insert either Montario Hardesty or Greg Hardy instead. Thanks!

The Pittsburgh Steelers are in a tough situation here. It appears that Big Ben will not take the fall for his night of mischief earlier this year, but the NFL still could come down hard on him for his recent string of immaturity. The Steelers offense has moved towards the precision passing game, and if they don't have Big Ben at the helm for part of the season, their offense could sputter. They have decent talent at WR and TE, and their offensive line was beefed up with the addition of Mike Iuapati. However, with the discovery last year that Fast Willie Parker had turned into Slow Willie Parker and Rashard Mendehall is not quite the player this wished he would be, the Pittsburgh Steelers need to replace the hole that Willie left when he was cut.

Greg Hardy is a tempting prospect on the defensive line, but is not quite big enough nor mature enough to handle being a 3/4 defensive end. There are plenty of big boys left to plump up their line later in the draft, so the Steelers look towards two running backs with this pick.

Montario Hardesty is an intriguing prospect with his combination of vision and balance, but the Steelers already have a Hardesty-like back in the roster in Mendehall and Moore. So they turn to look at the school that produced a gamebreaking type back who plays for the Superbowl Champs, is as good a running back as he is a receiver, and has the second and third gear that it takes to take the rock to the house in the NFL.

With the 82nd pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Joe McKnight, RB, USC.

McKnight is an elusive ball carrier that knows how to set up his blockers and does not need a huge lane to run through. He enjoyed his first full season staying healthy in 2009 and declared early to take advantage of that. He finishes his runs off better than you’d expect for someone his size. He is not a power back but does know how to dip his pads to run through arm tackles and will attack tacklers with an explosive burst. He shows a good burst through the hole and while he has good speed to threaten deep he will get run down from behind at times. He can be an effective receiver both out in the flats as well as downfield.

Strengths
McKnight has elite quickness and agility for the running back position. Has good speed in the open field. Shows impressive vision, waits for the play to develop, finds the cutback lane. Very competitive with the ball in his hands and plays with the attitude of a bigger back. Was productive in college. Exhibits a natural feel setting up blockers.

Weaknesses
McKnight has enough height but lacks the bulk and thick build of an every down back. Doesn’t possess the natural strength to be consistently effective between the tackles. Dealt with some minor injuries in college while sharing the load. Blocking could use some polish. Isn’t a true power runner.

Fred's Slacks
04-10-2010, 03:52 PM
The texans love to grab defensive talent in the draft and this pick is no exception. They feel they get great value and complete their spectacular LB trio by picking Navorro Bowman LB Penn State.

Brandon494
04-10-2010, 03:56 PM
Steelers select Joe McKnight from previous post by OS PA

jmbarnes101 on the clock.....

Brandon494
04-10-2010, 04:25 PM
The texans love to grab defensive talent in the draft and this pick is no exception. They feel they get great value and complete their spectacular LB trio by picking Navorro Bowman LB Penn State.

Good pick, I almost picked him with the 49ers pick but felt they needed more help on offense than defense.

OS PA
04-10-2010, 05:23 PM
The texans love to grab defensive talent in the draft and this pick is no exception. They feel they get great value and complete their spectacular LB trio by picking Navorro Bowman LB Penn State.

Good pick, I almost picked him with the 49ers pick but felt they needed more help on offense than defense.

I struggled with the Broncos pick. I haven't seen many of these 3rd rounders play, so I had to go by what a bunch of sites said and decided on Eric Norwood over Bowman. This draft is super deep in Linebacker prospects. I'm a big Muckelroy fan, wonder if he'll go before Round 4.

Fred's Slacks
04-10-2010, 08:07 PM
The texans love to grab defensive talent in the draft and this pick is no exception. They feel they get great value and complete their spectacular LB trio by picking Navorro Bowman LB Penn State.

Good pick, I almost picked him with the 49ers pick but felt they needed more help on offense than defense.

I struggled with the Broncos pick. I haven't seen many of these 3rd rounders play, so I had to go by what a bunch of sites said and decided on Eric Norwood over Bowman. This draft is super deep in Linebacker prospects. I'm a big Muckelroy fan, wonder if he'll go before Round 4.

Thanks for the props Brandon. And there is nothing wrong with the Norwood pick. Also a good prospect and possibly a better fit for the 3-4. No doubt this is a deep draft for LB. Not just these guys but Worlids and Thadeus Gibson are both still avialable as well.

jmbarnes101
04-10-2010, 11:23 PM
The Falcons have only had one pick so far and they added Sean Weatherspoon which will certainly help their LB corps. Their weakness is in the front 7 and while they drafted Lawrence Sidbury last year they're going to take another similar player in this spot and hope one or both turns into a solid starter at DE. With these two picks the Falcons hope they have found some pass rushers to help them out.

WIth the 87th pick in the NFL draft the Atlanta Falcons select...

Jason Worilds, DE Virginia Tech

Analysis courtesy of nfldraftcountdown.com
Strengths:
Super Athletic --- Explosive with good speed and a burst --- Very quick and agile --- Active with an excellent motor --- Does a fantastic job in pursuit --- Good strength and power --- Uses hands well --- Plays with proper leverage--- Reliable Tackler --- Comfortable in space --- Smooth dropping in coverage --- Tough --- Feisty --- Versatile --- Hard Worker.

Weaknesses:
Lacks the ideal size that you look for --- Questionable instincts and awareness --- Is not stout at the point of attack against the run --- Is often late off the snap --- Repertoire of pass rush moves is limited --- A ' Tweener who may have to change positions --- Durability is a concern.

Notes:
Was a two-year starter for the Hokies --- Went by "Jason Adjepong" before legally changing his last name in 2007 --- Named 2nd Team All-ACC in 2008 and 2009 --- Has a long history of shoulder injuries which have required multiple surgeries --- Didn't have the huge season most expected in 2009 but was playing through a painful shoulder injury --- Played defensive end in college but could also project to outside linebacker at the next level --- Best fit might come in a 3-4 scheme -- Physical tools and style are eerily reminiscent of Darryl Tapp.

Joemailman
04-10-2010, 11:51 PM
For the Bengals, losing T.J. Housh in FA still hurts. Although they signed Antonio Bryant, they still need to do more to upgrade the league's 26th rated pass offense. Therefore, with the 84th selection in the NFL Draft, the cincinnati Bengals select:

Carlton Mitchell WR South Florida

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1253970?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

Analysis
Release: Gets to top speed much faster than expected for his height, eating up cushion and blowing by corners without great speed. Can hesitate to lull defender to sleep, then accelerate to get separation. Is not pressed much because of his size and speed, but seems comfortable giving a shake and using his hands to free himself from the jam.

Hands: Inconsistent hands and traps the ball against his chest more often than not on short to intermediate throws. Tracks balls over his shoulder, able to secure the catch when stretched out on deep balls or throws to the sideline. Excellent red-zone threat. Better adjusting to high throws than low ones, but can get down to make the grab if given room to do so. Loses concentration on easier passes at times.

Route running: Will round off routes at times, but sinks his hips coming in and out of routes pretty well for a 6-4 receiver. Stop and comeback routes are sudden, a dangerous combination with his potential as a deep threat. Uses a head fake to sell routes. Willing to find holes in zones over the middle.

After the catch: Not many tall receivers are used on quick screens, but his surprising quickness and length allows him to succeed. Turns on the jets after the catch, with his long strides making it difficult for defenders to catch him. Can be elusive on screens but fails to avoid defenders when on a dead run. Height makes him a target to be chopped down in the open field by better corners.

Blocking: Has the desire and length to take defenders out of the play when he knows the run is coming, but a failure to break down and mirror his man allows them to avoid his grasp. Runs hard and extends his arms to keep safeties at bay while blocking for fellow receivers downfield. Resorts to ineffective cut blocks at times despite have the size advantage on the edge.

Intangibles: Tough player who bounces up after the big hit. Confident, well-liked in the locker room who has worked hard to be more than a track star playing football.

OS PA
04-11-2010, 05:44 AM
Packers are up next after Brandon picks.

Biggest needs - CB, RB, SS, OT, QB, OLB, P

Possible picks - Top Players Available

Name/Pos/School/40yd/10yd
Jacoby Ford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_pPQrco6s), WR, Clemson 4.22 1.46
Aaron Hernandez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5pBWjdd6Q), TE, Florida 4.64 N/A
Perrish Cox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_n9K3stn8), CB, Ok. S 4.58 1.59
Roddrick Muckelroy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLXCoGLMbT), OLB, Texas 4.68 1.67
Thaddeus Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFR4tbw-2M), DE/OLB, OSU 4.78 1.64
Alex Carrington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvEloMMOhQ), DE, Ark. St. 4.92 1.69
Greg Hardy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dhol5aFg8Y), DE, Miss 4.82 1.75
Reshad Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1Ryqw3k5Y&annotation_id=annotation_223946&feature=iv), SS, Georgia 4.51 1.56
Larry Asante (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnO5IWjXFH4), SS, Neb. 4.62 1.60
Ben Tate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY&feature=related), RB, Auburn 4.34 1.49
Montario Hardesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJiHPqy8xE), RB, Tenn. 4.49 1.51
Ed Wang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMqPNKXgFLA), OT, V.Tech 5.18 1.78
Selvish Capers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rWaDCiRhSA), OT, WVU, 5.11 1.74


My vote - 1A. Ben Tate 1B. Perrish Cox, 2A. Thaddeus Gibson 2B. Reshad Jones

Fred's Slacks
04-11-2010, 08:49 AM
Packers are up next after Brandon picks.

Biggest needs - CB, RB, SS, OT, QB, OLB, P

Possible picks - Top Players Available

Name/Pos/School/40yd/10yd
Jacoby Ford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_pPQrco6s), WR, Clemson 4.22 1.46
Aaron Hernandez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5pBWjdd6Q), TE, Florida 4.64 N/A
Perrish Cox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_n9K3stn8), CB, Ok. S 4.58 1.59
Roddrick Muckelroy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLXCoGLMbT), OLB, Texas 4.68 1.67
Thaddeus Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFR4tbw-2M), DE/OLB, OSU 4.78 1.64
Alex Carrington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvEloMMOhQ), DE, Ark. St. 4.92 1.69
Greg Hardy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dhol5aFg8Y), DE, Miss 4.82 1.75
Reshad Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1Ryqw3k5Y&annotation_id=annotation_223946&feature=iv), SS, Georgia 4.51 1.56
Larry Asante (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnO5IWjXFH4), SS, Neb. 4.62 1.60
Ben Tate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY&feature=related), RB, Auburn 4.34 1.49
Montario Hardesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJiHPqy8xE), RB, Tenn. 4.49 1.51
Ed Wang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMqPNKXgFLA), OT, V.Tech 5.18 1.78
Selvish Capers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rWaDCiRhSA), OT, WVU, 5.11 1.74


My vote - 1A. Ben Tate 1B. Perrish Cox, 2A. Thaddeus Gibson 2B. Reshad Jones

He'd probably be an exremely unpopular pick here and it would be nice to fill another need but Jacoby Ford could be a nice addition here IMO.

packrulz
04-11-2010, 09:07 AM
Packers are up next after Brandon picks.

Biggest needs - CB, RB, SS, OT, QB, OLB, P

Possible picks - Top Players Available

Name/Pos/School/40yd/10yd
Jacoby Ford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_pPQrco6s), WR, Clemson 4.22 1.46
Aaron Hernandez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5pBWjdd6Q), TE, Florida 4.64 N/A
Perrish Cox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_n9K3stn8), CB, Ok. S 4.58 1.59
Roddrick Muckelroy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLXCoGLMbT), OLB, Texas 4.68 1.67
Thaddeus Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFR4tbw-2M), DE/OLB, OSU 4.78 1.64
Alex Carrington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvEloMMOhQ), DE, Ark. St. 4.92 1.69
Greg Hardy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dhol5aFg8Y), DE, Miss 4.82 1.75
Reshad Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1Ryqw3k5Y&annotation_id=annotation_223946&feature=iv), SS, Georgia 4.51 1.56
Larry Asante (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnO5IWjXFH4), SS, Neb. 4.62 1.60
Ben Tate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY&feature=related), RB, Auburn 4.34 1.49
Montario Hardesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJiHPqy8xE), RB, Tenn. 4.49 1.51
Ed Wang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMqPNKXgFLA), OT, V.Tech 5.18 1.78
Selvish Capers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rWaDCiRhSA), OT, WVU, 5.11 1.74


My vote - 1A. Ben Tate 1B. Perrish Cox, 2A. Thaddeus Gibson 2B. Reshad Jones

He'd probably be an exremely unpopular pick here and it would be nice to fill another need but Jacoby Ford could be a nice addition here IMO.
Ben Tate is really good, just ask him, lol. Seriously though, I think he actually ran a 4.43 fourty, not a 4.34, but I would think he would be a great value pick in the third round. Who would run the ball if Grant went down?

Joemailman
04-11-2010, 09:11 AM
Reshad Jones would probably make a lot of sense for the Packers in the 3rd round.

jmbarnes101
04-11-2010, 09:21 AM
See now this is difficult because different sites will have vastly different values of who's left at this point.

For example, I took these players off the list of top available prospects from nfldraftcountdown (100 top prospects) and it varies from the above list. Of course i'm not just going to list positions of need since TT doesn't draft that way.

Montario Hardesty, RB Tennessee
Mardy Gilyard, WR Cincinnati
Dorin Dickerson, TE Pittsburgh
Aaron Hernandez, TE Florida
J.D. Walton, C Baylor
Jason Fox, T Miami
Selvish Capers, T West Virginia
Jermane Cunningham, DE Florida
Alex Carrington, DE Arkansas State
Greg Hardy, DE Mississippi
Arthur Jones, DT Syracuse
Jamar Chaney, ILB Mississippi State
Thaddeus Gibson, OLB Ohio State
Perrish Cox, CB Oklahoma State
Amari Spievey, CB Iowa
Zoltan Mesko, P Michigan (he's not on the list but since we've taken a Big 10 punter in the 3rd round before I thought I should include him; he's top rated)
Italicized players are those on both lists.

Even though WR isn't an issue I'd like to see us add a dynamic threat like Gilyard at this spot. Especially since he can return kicks and punts.

BTW, how weird is it to not have any Ohio State, Wisconsin, or Purdue players gone or really even looked at in the first three rounds? Thaddeus Gibson is the first one on a list and he may go in the 4th. Just so odd to not see anybody from "The Ohio State University" being selected until late. There are only a couple of real prospects from each school (Gibson & Coleman for OhSt - Schofield/Graham for Badgers).

packrulz
04-11-2010, 09:21 AM
Brandon494 is on the clock...

Brandon494
04-11-2010, 09:30 AM
Since I can't name one Browns WR off the top of my head I decided with the 85th pick in the NFL draft Cleveland selects....

Mardy Gilyard

Overview

Gilyard is an excellent college receiver with top athleticism and above average acceleration and average speed and size for the next level. He has been extremely productive in a passing offense but will need work on making his routes more precise as well as on his release off the line. He is extremely dangerous once he has the ball in his hands and can be a threat to take it all the way with his running skills. He can short arm the ball when he hears footsteps and will need to work on his receiving skills when in traffic.


Strengths

Gilyard is a very athletic prospect who was extremely productive in college. Is a terror in the open field with the ball in his hands after catch. Has the quickness and burst to separate from defenders when running short to intermediate routes. Is a high-character guy on the field.

Weaknesses

Gilyard has adequate height but lacks the bulk you like to see in a starting receiver and isn’t a good blocker. Is quicker than fast and top end speed is only adequate – won’t blow by many pro DB’s. Hands are inconsistent. Makes too many body catches.

Brandon494
04-11-2010, 09:44 AM
Packers are up next after Brandon picks.

Biggest needs - CB, RB, SS, OT, QB, OLB, P

Possible picks - Top Players Available

Name/Pos/School/40yd/10yd
Jacoby Ford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_pPQrco6s), WR, Clemson 4.22 1.46
Aaron Hernandez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5pBWjdd6Q), TE, Florida 4.64 N/A
Perrish Cox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_n9K3stn8), CB, Ok. S 4.58 1.59
Roddrick Muckelroy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLXCoGLMbT), OLB, Texas 4.68 1.67
Thaddeus Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFR4tbw-2M), DE/OLB, OSU 4.78 1.64
Alex Carrington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvEloMMOhQ), DE, Ark. St. 4.92 1.69
Greg Hardy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dhol5aFg8Y), DE, Miss 4.82 1.75
Reshad Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1Ryqw3k5Y&annotation_id=annotation_223946&feature=iv), SS, Georgia 4.51 1.56
Larry Asante (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnO5IWjXFH4), SS, Neb. 4.62 1.60
Ben Tate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY&feature=related), RB, Auburn 4.34 1.49
Montario Hardesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJiHPqy8xE), RB, Tenn. 4.49 1.51
Ed Wang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMqPNKXgFLA), OT, V.Tech 5.18 1.78
Selvish Capers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rWaDCiRhSA), OT, WVU, 5.11 1.74


My vote - 1A. Ben Tate 1B. Perrish Cox, 2A. Thaddeus Gibson 2B. Reshad Jones

My vote would be Perrish Cox. Not only would he add depth at the CB position but he would add to special teams in the return game. I like Ben Tate but he is nothing different from what we have in Ryan Grant. Also believe we can find a running back in the later rounds.

Overview

Cox had another productive season in 2009 as the most active secondary defender for the Cowboys as well as an effective return specialist. He has an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism. He has good ball skills and does a nice job of making plays in the open field. He can be physical to reroute receivers off the line of scrimmage. Cox is quick and has a knack for finding creases as a returner. He is inconsistent to shed blockers as a run defender but is a willing tackler on the perimeter. His instincts are average when reacting to the pass and needs to improve his awareness when reading route progressions. Cox needs technique work as a secondary defender and likely will have his biggest impact on special teams in his rookie season.

Strengths

Cox has ideal height and bulk. Explosive with very good top-end speed and lateral agility. Possesses great ups and soft hands which makes him a ball-hawk in the secondary. Effective in press coverage and strong enough to support the run. Talented return man who scores touchdowns.

Weaknesses

A bit stiff in the hips, especially when getting out of his backpedal. Does not consistently make good reads and reacts late. Gives too much of a cushion and looks lackadaisical at times. Gets turned around too often and sometimes struggles to find the ball. Misses some tackles by dipping his head.

jmbarnes101
04-11-2010, 10:02 AM
Since I can't name one Browns WR off the top of my head I decided with the 85th pick in the NFL draft Cleveland selects....

Mardy Gilyard


Sure, give them the guy I wanted us to take. :x

Bretsky
04-11-2010, 10:41 AM
Since I can't name one Browns WR off the top of my head I decided with the 85th pick in the NFL draft Cleveland selects....

Mardy Gilyard


Sure, give them the guy I wanted us to take. :x


I wanted him too; dang good pick for round 3 :!:

packrulz
04-12-2010, 05:04 PM
The Packers select: Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State
Overview
After a U.S. Army All-American prep career in Waco, Cox made an immediate impact for the Cowboys. He returned the opening kickoff of the 2006 season for a touchdown, becoming the first 'Poke true freshman to do that since Barry Sanders in 1988.

That season Cox made 24 tackles and two interceptions, then followed it up with another solid campaign in 2007, when he started the last eight contests. He was named honorable mention All-Big 12 by league coaches in 2008 after putting together his second consecutive season with two interceptions and eight pass breakups. Cox capped off his career in Stillwater with a first-team all-conference senior year in which he led the nation in passes defended per game (1.73, four interceptions, 15 pass breakups).

Simply looking at Cox's size, straight-line speed and statistics, including his return skills (six career touchdowns) leads one to believe he could be a top-40 pick. But questions about his maturity, tackling, and technique against top-flight receivers might cause him to fall further than expected.

Analysis
Read & React: Recognizes routes and diagnoses whether the receiver is the primary read by reading body language. Alert to swing passes in the flat in zone coverage. Reads receiver screens, avoids the block and closes to make the play near or behind the line. A step slow attacking in his zone or to chase plays, and will take poor angles to the ball.

Man Coverage: Should flourish as a press cover corner at the next level. Smooth hip transition from backpedal. Best in press coverage, using his length and size to neutralize the receiver, but could be more consistent getting his hands on jersey at the line. Keeps contact with receiver downfield to prevent separation. Has height and vertical leap to win jump balls. Often forces quarterback to look in another direction. Will lose his balance and footing on double moves. Likes to be physical downfield and must be more disciplined in this area.

Zone Coverage: Smooth pedal for his height and usually stays low. Maintains cushion for a few steps. Changes direction easily to shadow receiver. Can knock receiver off a route before letting him go to the safety. Keeps eyes in the backfield to make play on short throws or runs. Will come off his man to give help behind him when the ball is in the air.

Closing/Recovery: Good arm length to knock away passes after recovering, will take the ball out of receivers' hands during the catch. Must learn to read receivers' eyes and turn for the ball in man. Can accelerate to the ball in front of him, but has only adequate recovery speed if beaten off the line or on double moves. Only average hands for the interception, and will drop catchable passes.

Run Support: Willing in run support, displaying the toughness to get after a ballcarrier. Maintains outside leverage to keep running backs from getting the corner. Despite his height and well-developed upper body and leg builds, does not stand up against or get off downfield blocks from larger receivers very well. Uses his speed to run around blocks on receiver screens.

Tackling: Closes on receivers well when playing off, and will wrap the legs or waist to secure the tackle immediately after the catch. Has the strength to lift and plant receivers when tackling with squared shoulders. Drops his head when tackling in the open field, however, leading to missed tackles.

Intangibles: Started to take on a leadership role in the secondary as a senior, but his maturity is under question again after missing curfew before the Cotton Bowl and later tweeting about it. Good work ethic in the weight room, although it does not always translate on the field. Has three children. Arrested for speeding and driving with a suspended license in September 2009. Solid kickoff returner with necessary size and speed but must improve his vision to find open lanes and hit them hard instead of dancing; he will not get the corner against NFL special teams coverage units. Needs work on his blocking when in tandem return formation.

jmbarnes101 is on the clock...

jmbarnes101
04-12-2010, 06:02 PM
Still needing help in the front seven the Philadelphia Eagles will elect to fill that hole with the first Buckeye taken off the board.

Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, OSU

With Gibson they get a competant player that should be able to play and if he can't start should still be able to provide depth at DE and OLB. With Weatherspoon and Alualu they should be able to update their front seven considerably.

I'll provide more analysis later. I also considered Hardy and Arthur Jones at this spot.

Joemailman
04-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Arizona lost Karlos Dansby in free agency and Gerald Hayes will turn 30 this year.

Therefore, the Arizona Cardinals select Donald Butler, ILB Washibgton

Strengths:
Great size with a muscular physique --- Very Athletic --- Explosive and fast with a burst --- Smooth with nice agility and quickness --- Terrific instincts to read and react --- Excellent strength --- Does a fantastic job in pursuit and closes in a hurry --- Able to avoid blockers --- Reliable tackler --- Can match up in man coverage --- Decent blitzer --- Hard Worker --- Leader --- Versatile --- Superb special teamer --- Productive.

Weaknesses:
Durability may be a concern --- Struggles when he has to take on and shed blockers --- Lacks power in his game --- Not a big hitter --- Can be too aggressive at times --- Gets engulfed when massive linemen lock on --- Is not stout at the point of attack --- Frame might be maxed out.

Brandon494
04-12-2010, 08:38 PM
Arizona top need coming into the draft was O-line help and since they have yet to address that need the Cardinals select....

OT Selvish Capers

Overview

Capers is a converted tight end that made the move prior to his sophomore year and has shown steady improvement each year. While he has the speed and initial quickness to play on the left side, he is probably best suited to play right tackle. He is an adequate knee bender in pass protection and will let his pad level get a bit high but does play with a good base and often manages to recover in time to ride opponents by the pocket when pass blocking. Would like to see him finish blocks off more consistently but at least he doesn’t back down from a challenge. Still needs some work on his blocking angles as well as how quickly he picks up blocks on his own but when he knows what he needs to do he can look decisive.

Strengths

Good height and bulk. Flashes above-average speed and athletic ability. Quick first step allows him to get to defenders in the open field. Uses long arms in pass protection to move rushers past the pocket. Maintains body control and balance with a wide base.

Weaknesses

Does not have the strength to consistently drive defenders off the ball. Fails to attack with a punch and lets defenders engage him. Plays high and struggles to finish blocks. Needs to improve his awareness for blocking angles and assignments.

packrulz
04-13-2010, 05:20 AM
The Cowboys drafted OT Charles Brown in the first round and FS Morgan Burnett in the second, Jerry Jones wants to shore up the run defense, so the pick is: Torrell Troup, DT, UCF
Overview
Although Torell changed his last name from Johnson to Troup for his last two seasons at UCF to honor the reemergence of his father into his family's life, it wasn't hard for scouts or opposing offenses to find his big body in the middle of the field.

He earned second-team All-Conference USA accolades each of the past two seasons, first making 52 tackles, 12.5 for loss and two sacks as a junior on the Conference USA championship team. Those numbers were down a bit last fall (35-5-2) due to receiving more double-teams, but coaches recognized his ability to lead a rushing defense ranked in the top five nationally and take pressure off pass-rushing DEs Bruce Miller (13 sacks) and Jarvis Geathers (11).

It's hard for teams to find nose tackles with Troup's size, strength and motor in the middle rounds of the draft, so don't be surprised if he is selected earlier than many project.

Analysis
Pass rush: Bull rusher who often pushes his man (or a double-team when fresh) to collapse the pocket using leverage. Able to rip off blocks, punch and swim over the top, or even get under the arm of guards to pressure the quarterback if he hangs onto the ball too long. Limited burst; will provide some heat but not many sacks. Sits on many obvious passing situations.

Run defense: Stands his ground against single and double blocks using his girth and strength, although he lacks the quickness to split the double. Can be violent with hands to free himself. Able to sift through trash inside to get to ballcarrier. Moves laterally while engaged to stay in the play. Needs improvement avoiding and recovering from cut blocks.

Explosion: Quick and powerful off the snap, penetrating easily against man-up blocks. Good balance after initial contact, keeping pads low and moving forward. Loses steam coming off the ball throughout the game.

Strength: Very strong player; prime nose tackle candidate. Uses a low center of gravity and thick upper body to gain leverage. Able to stack his man and disengage to chase the quarterback or wrap up ballcarriers.

Tackling: Has length and upper-body strength to bring down most any player in his immediate area. Willing to chase down players but lacks burst to track them down from behind without help or consistently make tackles outside the box. Doesn't change directions easily, and can be eluded in space. Must keep his feet moving instead of relying on his strength to make arm tackles.

Intangibles: Hard-working, unselfish leader with a quiet sensibility. Consistently gives good effort inside whether rushing the passer or stopping the run. No major character issues. Worked off 30 pound of weight during his career to gain stamina, although he still carries extra around his midsection.

Bretsky is on the clock...

Bretsky
04-13-2010, 06:25 PM
The Chargers have drafted Terrance Cody and J Best and are already elated

They can't believe that they are going to be able to add another quality leader and player into their secondary.

The Chargers select Safety Reshad Jones from the U of Georgia




Jones redshirted in 2005 despite being ranked the No. 1 recruit in the state of Georgia by some services. He racked up 56 tackles and two interceptions but started just two games in '06.

A starter in 12 of 13 games as a sophomore, Jones emerged as one of the best at his position in the country, posting 76 tackles and a team-leading five interceptions in earning second-team all-SEC honors. It was his missed tackle against Georgia Tech runner Roddy Jones, however, that many remembered from his 2008 campaign.

After considering leaving after the '08 season for the NFL, Jones opted to stay at Georgia. His numbers slipped slightly (73 tackles, four INTs), but Jones was steady in coverage and as an open-field tackler.

With all of the attention Eric Berry (Tennessee), Earl Thomas (Texas) and Taylor Mays (Southern Cal) have received, Jones has gone a little under the radar for those outside of the SEC. NFL scouts see the big-hitting ballhawk as capable of making an immediate impact at either safety position.


2009 Season
Named All-SEC Second Team by Phil Steele … Earned team's Most Improved Player award for defense … Started all 13 games making 73 tackles, seven pass break-ups, four interceptions and a forced fumble … Registered a season-high 10 tackles vs. No. 4 LSU … Tallied nine tackles vs. S. Carolina and had eight tackle games at Vanderbilt and vs. Kentucky … Seven tackles, an INT and a pass break-up at No. 7 Ga. Tech … Tied for the team-lead with seven tackles vs. No. 1 Florida … Posted five tackles, an interception and two pass break-ups in victory over Texas A&M in Independence Bowl … Named to watch list for Jim Thorpe Award … Selected Preseason All-SEC Second Team by Phil Steele … Named Preseason All-SEC Third Team by SEC Coaches … Named to Athletic Director's Honor Roll for summer semester … Recipient of Loy D. Thompson, IV, Football Scholarship.

packrulz
04-14-2010, 05:09 AM
Brandon494 is on the clock...

Brandon494
04-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Browns select Myron Rolle

Typical straight line speed, reacts and closes quickly, good change of direction agility, very intelligent who can read and understand the game well. Lacks top ball skills, has been out of football for a year, need to question his commitment.

packrulz
04-14-2010, 03:54 PM
Bretsky is on the clock...

Bretsky
04-14-2010, 08:37 PM
THE MN Vikings attempted to trade up with several teams who lack the ability to find Offensive Rookies of the year and they are celebrating their guy falls to them.

They look no further than the teammate of last years Offensive Rookie of the Year.

They realize their main rival is the Packers and this pick will further expose the inability of Atari Bigby to cover NFL calibur threats.

The Minnesota Vikings select Aaron Fernandez, TE from Florida

With Percy Harvin and Louis Murhpy leaving for the NFL, Hernandez was being called upon to step up significantly in 2009 -- and step up he did, catching more passes (68) for more yards (850) than any other tight end in the country. Hernandez's reliable hands and penchant for the big play in critical situations did not go unnoticed by rival coaches, who voted him to the first-team all-SEC squad, or the media, who made him the first Mackey Award winner in SEC history.

Despite winning the Mackey Award as the nation's best tight end, NFL teams will have to decide if this is the position he'll fit best in the pros. Not big or strong enough to compete as an inline blocker, Hernandez may be asked to move to H-back. What is not questioned is his ability to be a matchup nightmare for defenses. Hernandez may not be the first or second tight end selected in the 2010 draft, but blessed with good quickness as a route-runner, surprising strength and balance after the catch and sticky, reliable hands, he might just be the one making the most immediate impact.

Joemailman
04-14-2010, 08:57 PM
Justin Harrell has the next 2 picks.

RashanGary
04-14-2010, 09:11 PM
Colts select CB Walter Thurmond
Saints select TE Dennis Pitta

Joemailman
04-14-2010, 10:24 PM
Defensively, the Bengals need someone at RDT to complement Domata Peko.

Arthur Jones DT Syracuse is a disruptive force in the Tommy Harris mold.

Strengths:
Good size with long arms and a stout build --- Very athletic --- Great speed and quickness --- Explosive and fires off the snap --- Extremely active with a non-stop motor --- Terrific range --- Does a fantastic job in pursuit --- Uses his hands well --- Understands leverage --- Can penetrate and collapse the pocket --- Able to hold his ground at the point of attack --- A reliable tackler with some power --- Is smart with excellent instincts and awareness --- Offers schematic versatility --- A strong work ethic --- Team Leader --- Has loads of quality experience.

Weaknesses:
Is not much of a sack artist --- Needs to develop additional pass rush moves and counters --- Struggles to get off blocks at times --- Average bull rush --- Doesn't really stun with initial punch --- Durability concerns.

Brandon494
04-14-2010, 10:29 PM
If we got Davis, Sapp, and Cox with our first 3 picks I would be very happy with the draft but I doubt we'll end up with any of them.

packrulz
04-15-2010, 05:07 AM
Titans can always use a run stuffing big fella: Al Woods, DT, LSU

jmbarnes101 is on the clock...

jmbarnes101
04-15-2010, 10:38 AM
With the last pick in the 3rd round of the NFL draft the Atlanta Falcons select...

Montario Hardesty, RB Tennessee

The Falcons really lost a lot when Turner went down with injury last year. Jerious Norwood, though talented, hasn't been effective on the field and can't stay healthy and would seemingly make a better 3rd down back. Hardesty will compete with Jason Snelling for the right to back up Turner when he needs a rest or if he were to get injured again.

jmbarnes101
04-15-2010, 10:38 AM
We got a week, round 4???

packrulz
04-15-2010, 03:51 PM
We got a week, round 4???

I doubt we could get a round in before the draft, but thanks for participating everyone! I like the Packers picks but I doubt the draft will fall that way. Be sure to check after the draft to see how many we got right.

Bretsky
04-15-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm glad TT is making our picks instead of this group :!: :lol: :wink:

Our three picks are ok but they don't excite me that much

Freak Out
04-15-2010, 05:52 PM
I'm glad TT is making our picks instead of this group :!: :lol: :wink:

Our three picks are ok but they don't excite me that much

Do the gals endorse Dez Bryant? :lol:

Bretsky
04-15-2010, 05:56 PM
I'm glad TT is making our picks instead of this group :!: :lol: :wink:

Our three picks are ok but they don't excite me that much

Do the gals endorse Dez Bryant? :lol:


The Gals enjoy out of the box thinking; they are wild and crazy. It would be wild and crazy to watch teams try to defend GB with Dez Bryant.

The gals do endorse Dez Bryant :!:

swede
04-22-2010, 07:14 PM
bump

packrulz
04-23-2010, 05:51 AM
We got 7 correct picks in the first round, much better than last year!

RashanGary
04-23-2010, 07:31 AM
Let the record show how high I was on Alualu and Matthews :) Two borderline 1st/2nd guys that went in the top 12 :)

OS PA
04-08-2011, 08:43 PM
bump

Bump

Lurker64
04-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Let the record show how high I was on Alualu and Matthews :) Two borderline 1st/2nd guys that went in the top 12 :)

Alualu looked really good last year, Ryan Mathews though... not so much.

Bretsky
04-08-2011, 09:51 PM
I think if Anthony Davis and Bulaga are still on the board when TT picks I'll pee my pants, I just don't see them dropping this far.

cool quote

Lurker64
04-08-2011, 09:56 PM
cool quote

In retrospect, Bulaga played better last year than Davis. Though part of that was expected (the scouting report was that Bulaga had his shit together much more than Davis did) and part of that may be that the 49ers were just a mess.

Bretsky
04-08-2011, 10:02 PM
THE MN Vikings attempted to trade up with several teams who lack the ability to find Offensive Rookies of the year and they are celebrating their guy falls to them.

They look no further than the teammate of last years Offensive Rookie of the Year.

They realize their main rival is the Packers and this pick will further expose the inability of Atari Bigby to cover NFL calibur threats.

The Minnesota Vikings select Aaron Fernandez, TE from Florida

With Percy Harvin and Louis Murhpy leaving for the NFL, Hernandez was being called upon to step up significantly in 2009 -- and step up he did, catching more passes (68) for more yards (850) than any other tight end in the country. Hernandez's reliable hands and penchant for the big play in critical situations did not go unnoticed by rival coaches, who voted him to the first-team all-SEC squad, or the media, who made him the first Mackey Award winner in SEC history.

Despite winning the Mackey Award as the nation's best tight end, NFL teams will have to decide if this is the position he'll fit best in the pros. Not big or strong enough to compete as an inline blocker, Hernandez may be asked to move to H-back. What is not questioned is his ability to be a matchup nightmare for defenses. Hernandez may not be the first or second tight end selected in the 2010 draft, but blessed with good quickness as a route-runner, surprising strength and balance after the catch and sticky, reliable hands, he might just be the one making the most immediate impact.


DANG..............HOODY TOOK MY GUY

Bretsky
04-08-2011, 10:03 PM
The Vikes are surprised a future stud CB falls this far; the Vikings select Chris Cook, the CB from Virginia

Bretsky back in three hours for his threesome picks


Boom........lol

Bretsky
04-08-2011, 10:08 PM
A couple random thoughts as I could not remember who the guy was I really liked last year

JERRY HUGHES- The curse of Bretsky might be alive again; he was junk for the Colts and was inactive many games