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the_idle_threat
08-01-2006, 08:57 AM
Ants More Aggressive When in Gangs (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060731/sc_space/antsmoreaggressivewheningangs)

Abigail W. Leonard
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com
Mon Jul 31, 4:30 PM ET



Whether in a bar or on the battlefield, it’s easier to fight knowing friends have your back. The same is true in the ant world.

A new study shows ants are more aggressive when they think they’re part of a larger group.


The research showed that ants fighting for a piece of tuna soaked in pineapple juice—a precious commodity for the invertebrates—acted more aggressively if they felt they were part of a community.


To foster feelings of kinship, researcher Colby Tanner, a graduate student at the University of Utah, kept one set of F. xerophila ants in a densely populated environment, where they were constantly bumping into each other. He put a second group of F. xerophila ants in a more sparsely populated area, where they had little contact with others.


Have at it


In fighting trials against their natural enemy, a different species of ant, the groups acted very differently.


While all the fights were evenly matched—either five-on-five or one-on-one—ants from the sparsely populated setting were more hesitant to scrap, Tanner found.


On the other hand, ants raised in a highly populated environment were more aggressive in fights. Because F. xerophila ants are most successful when they gang up on opponents, Tanner thinks those that know they have allies are more willing to get involved.


The assertive behavior of ants used to being in large groups could also serve as a signal to opponents—a way for this species, which is not particularly adept at fighting alone, to indicate there are more of them around, he says.


Greater good


The signaling appears to work. When the F. xerophila ants acted belligerently, even in one-on-one situations, their opponents often ran away rather than sticking around for a fight they’d be favored to win.


Still, the confrontational approach didn’t always help ants individually. In fact, both groups of F. xerophila died at the same rate. The aggressive ones were more likely to kill their opponents, though, so the behavior served the larger community by keeping enemies away from limited resources.


The research was published online in the July 19 Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences.

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Thoughts:

1) Do this with dogs or roosters, and it's illegal ... Do this with ants, and it's science! Oh, to be a scientist!
2) Did they bet on the ants?
3) What the hell does this research have to do with anything? At least the last time these crazy scientists did this kind of "research," they found a treatment for glaucoma. Will watching ants fight be a future treatment for Alzheimer's or something?

Discuss, if you feel inclined.

woodbuck27
08-01-2006, 12:30 PM
Can't wait for the Movie to come out !!

MadtownPacker
08-01-2006, 12:37 PM
I wonder if these where Mexican ants? :mrgreen:

the_idle_threat
08-01-2006, 12:46 PM
:lol:

Deputy Nutz
08-01-2006, 01:52 PM
I wonder if these where Mexican ants? :mrgreen:

Well if they only fought when their relatives were behind them, probably. :mad: :shock: :twisted: :mrgreen:

retailguy
08-01-2006, 01:55 PM
Ants More Aggressive When in Gangs (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060731/sc_space/antsmoreaggressivewheningangs)

Abigail W. Leonard
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com
Mon Jul 31, 4:30 PM ET



A new study shows ants are more aggressive when they think they’re part of a larger group.


Isn't this true of humans too? Isn't this why people join 'gangs'? Good read, thanks...

LaFours
08-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Yesterday I was hanging out in my pool and I watched two ants go after it...one eventually dismembering the other. Yes, it was theraputic...or was that the refreshment of the pool in 100 degree 100% humidity? Let's go with the ant fight...yes! That was it.

woodbuck27
08-01-2006, 02:55 PM
I'll never forget when I was a small lad and visiting grand-parents at their farm .Sitting ina red ant hill and getting covered by those little suckers.

Ants are certainly viscious little insects, and I gained a respect for "that fact " - that day. One of the most frightening movies I ever saw growing up was about marching ants set in Africa I believe.That made a real impression on me also.

Can't re-call the name of that movie but it was very good.

Harlan ?

Tony Oday
08-01-2006, 03:32 PM
Well I dont know about you but I own ants when they try to fight me! I have my magnifying glass and can or raid! Yesterday was a tough one though there were 2,000 of them so I ahd to break out the size 10 boot and go nuts!!!!

I love it I bet these are the same scientists that were depicted in Half Baked ;)

woodbuck27
08-01-2006, 03:55 PM
Well I dont know about you but I own ants when they try to fight me! I have my magnifying glass and can or raid! Yesterday was a tough one though there were 2,000 of them so I ahd to break out the size 10 boot and go nuts!!!!

I love it I bet these are the same scientists that were depicted in Half Baked ;)

OK ! YOUR " the MAN " Tony.

SHOCK and AWE - Strategy !!!

K-town
08-02-2006, 10:09 AM
Dang-it, Ithought this was a post about Monty Python's Flying Circus!
:razz:

the_idle_threat
08-02-2006, 02:44 PM
Dang-it, Ithought this was a post about Monty Python's Flying Circus!
:razz:

:D I borrowed the intro.

Partial
05-28-2007, 01:17 AM
not nearly as therapeutic as a dog fight! :oops:

the_idle_threat
05-28-2007, 01:26 AM
:lol: Dug deep to find this one ...

Maybe Mike Vick can claim he is a scientist as was doing research!

BallHawk
05-28-2007, 07:35 AM
One of the most frightening movies I ever saw growing up was about marching ants set in Africa I believe.That made a real impression on me also.

Are you sure it wasn't "A Bug's Life"?