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Guiness
04-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Jets have a good looking team this year, and I have to think JT as a third down specialist will help them.

'phins fans can't be happy. This guy has been the face of their franchise for some time, and he had a pretty good homecoming last year.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13257547/sacks-leader-jason-taylor-rival-jets-agree-to-deal

mission
04-20-2010, 04:27 PM
Are the Jets the new Redskins ???

packerbacker1234
04-21-2010, 02:09 AM
Are the Jets the new Redskins ???

No, because they actually mix it up.

There team is built through solid FA/trades as well as some good drafting. Things like Sanchez, and that one corner... leon washington - all in house drafted guys. The skins use to trade everything away for folks, the jets do a bit of both. They have a nice team too. REALLY great defense, and possibly the best offensive line in all of football.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:06 AM
Are the Jets the new Redskins ???well, they were in the AFC championship last year. offseason moves have added Cromartie opposite Revis (have fun throwng at that duo) and now Taylor to a defense that was already tops in the league without them, Ladanian Tomlinson to an already very solid backfield behind a great line, and Santonio Homles to a WR core that people forget also added Braylon Edwards last year (who i think is going to be much improved after an offseason and much more time to learn the offense). that's a lot of plusses added to an already very good team. if they're the skins, it might be circa 1983 as long as Sanchez plays like he did last year. regardless, can't wait for the HBO hard knocks to get rolling to see this team and how the personalitites mix on screen.

hoosier
04-21-2010, 09:43 AM
Tomlinson for Jones is the one substitution that doesn't help them IMO. But they seem to have everything else in place to make a strong run at winning their division and even getting homefield advantage for the playoffs. The big question mark is, does Sanchez's development continue smoothly or does he have a sophomore slump?

retailguy
04-21-2010, 11:48 AM
There is no such thing as a 'solid FA'. That's just a myth. The only time a free agent is valuable is when no one else wants them and they are available at a bargain basement price.

mission
04-21-2010, 02:14 PM
Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
this close to a year long suspension
Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
of how good the jets ol is

who else??

Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that

Tarlam!
04-21-2010, 02:21 PM
They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that

Rex is a pretty strong Alpha Male. I didn't think they were that great last year, but it's amazing what motivation can do. The whole city of NY went ballistic. I don't know if it was the same when the Giants made their run.

I don't remember them renaming Manhatten, though.

I think Rex will keep most of the problem children in line.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 03:58 PM
Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
this close to a year long suspension
Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
of how good the jets ol is

who else??

Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee thatyou're right, jason taylor sucks, so does cromartie..why? because their own teams didn't want them anymore, that's a solid argument. holmes cost them a 5th rounder, wow. LT as a third down back, what a crappy option to have. basically they added what could be a bunch of talent for not a bunch of huge contracts and no high round picks given up. what morons. just a stupid as adding over the hill Faneca a few years back, dumbasses also signed Jenkins to anchor their D-middle, drafted some QB out of USC that wsn't ready for the big stage. one dumb move after another.

you mentioned the redskins in comparison? when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:00 PM
Tomlinson for Jones is the one substitution that doesn't help them IMO. But they seem to have everything else in place to make a strong run at winning their division and even getting homefield advantage for the playoffs. The big question mark is, does Sanchez's development continue smoothly or does he have a sophomore slump?i had forgotten they let jones go, i don't like this move either.

mission
04-21-2010, 04:09 PM
Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
this close to a year long suspension
Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
of how good the jets ol is

who else??

Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee thatyou mentioned the redskins, when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.

brett favre ?

and my entire post above ...

i cant stand in the court of law with this stuff but im pretty sure i tried to do exactly what you asked, albeit on my iphone and a bit sloppy.

all im really trying to say is that there is a point of diminishing returns... im going on record to say they're subtracting through addition. i cant think of any character problems with faneca and the other lineman they acquired through FA in previous seasons. none of their moves less LT are without questions and reach ... and the LT vs Jones this is a huge questionmark as some of you said.

they won't be in the Super Bowl next year and given they made it to the championship game last season, anything less than the big dance will prove me right.

alpha male works in the right setting but it can also rub dynamic personalities the wrong way... you start adding other team's castoffs to the mix; some guys who really don't even want to be there and we will see how he's able to manage those egos. he's not exactly belicheck, he doesn't always think before he speaks.[/i]

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:12 PM
Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
this close to a year long suspension
Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
of how good the jets ol is

who else??

Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee thatyou mentioned the redskins, when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.

brett favre ?

and my entire post above ...

i cant stand in the court of law with this stuff but im pretty sure i tried to do exactly what you asked, albeit on my iphone and a bit sloppy.

all im really trying to say is that there is a point of diminishing returns... im going on record to say they're subtracting through addition. i cant think of any character problems with faneca and the other lineman they acquired through FA in previous seasons. none of their moves less LT are without questions and reach ... and the LT vs Jones this is a huge questionmark as some of you said.

they won't be in the Super Bowl next year and given they made it to the championship game last season, anything less than the big dance will prove me right.

alpha male works in the right setting but it can also rub dynamic personalities the wrong way... you start adding other team's castoffs to the mix; some guys who really don't even want to be there and we will see how he's able to manage those egos. he's not exactly belicheck, he doesn't always think before he speaks.[/i]

the same guy that had them at 8-3 and fresh off kicking the patriots ass before his bicep gave way? how did favre and his finally surgically repaired healthy arm look last year? nice argument.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:15 PM
anything less than the big dance will prove me right.i would imagine they too would feel they fell short of expectations seeing as how they were one game away last year. again, you are picking the wrong team to criticize concerning how they have handled their business in the last four years. pick someone else, like the Cowboys or the Skins. the Cowboys are notorious for spending the money on the big FAs that will be the difference, have they even won a playoff game since the 90s yet? maybe one last year?

retailguy
04-21-2010, 04:20 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.

mission
04-21-2010, 04:36 PM
anything less than the big dance will prove me right.i would imagine they too would feel they fell short of expectations seeing as how they were one game away last year. again, you are picking the wrong team to criticize concerning how they have handled their business in the last four years. pick someone else, like the Cowboys or the Skins. the Cowboys are notorious for spending the money on the big FAs that will be the difference, have they even won a playoff game since the 90s yet? maybe one last year?

I was criticizing how they've handled THIS offseason so far, not that their GM is the worst thing ever. i like their aggression/mentality as an organization (maybe im jealous?), i just think they bit off more than they can chew given the specific situation of each acquisition. It's a slippery slope.

the team that is good, that is dominant on defense, was not built pre-draft this offseason, I'll tell you that.

and i completely forgot about the the brett favre torn biceps excuse... if he was so hurt, he should have put his "record" on the shelf for the betterment of his team. anyway you want to slice it, they didn't make the playoffs -- the move didn't work out for them.

it's kind of like in poker, and making moves at pots because you're in good position. you're going to get it most of the time but it only takes someone calling you once to lose your whole stack if you get a tiny bit carried away.

obviously final predictions are just that and i could be wrong... the core of that team is already there, who knows what dynamic these changes will really bring. the potential is definitely there, tho..

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:36 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.
+1

our own GBP did the same kind of things as they matured from 94-96'. added guys like Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Keith Jackson, Desmond Howard, Eugene Robinson, Gilbert Brown, Don Beebe, (Rison and Ron Cox after injuries, both starters in the SB). Had drafted most of the OL, Freeman, Brooks and Chewie, Hentrich and Jacke, Levens and Henderson, most of the secondary. Favre through a trade and Reggie as a FA. hardly a non hodge-podged team. bunch of great moves, did we fail if we lost in 96'?

mission
04-21-2010, 04:39 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.

im just saying measuring the two seasons from a literal standpoint. the team made it 'here' last year because they rallied around their coach and played unselfish football. will that happen next year? probably not you said, and that's my point. it's a different team... with probably more talent. just old dogs with old, really good tricks. ryan had his guys playing HIS way last year (his tricks), all the way, and that's why it worked.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:41 PM
and i completely forgot about the the brett favre torn biceps excuse... if he was so hurt, he should have put his "record" on the shelf for the betterment of his team. anyway you want to slice it, they didn't make the playoffs -- the move didn't work out for them. no it didn't because his arm gave out. last year pretty much solidified the fact that he was actually hurt and was not BSing us with excuses, did it not? i don't see how his arm giving out when it had shown zero signs of it in GB before the trade made it a dumb move for the jets. that would be like saying the bears picking up peppers was a failed move if he blows an ACL in week 12 after posting 15 sacks in the first 11 games. why they didn't shelf him? maybe because the whole biceps injury didn't become a public issue until AFTER the season was over.

mission
04-21-2010, 04:43 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.
+1

our own GBP did the same kind of things as they matured from 94-96'. added guys like Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Keith Jackson, Desmond Howard, Eugene Robinson, Gilbert Brown, Don Beebe, (Rison and Ron Cox after injuries, both starters in the SB). Had drafted most of the OL, Freeman, Brooks and Chewie, Hentrich and Jacke, Levens and Henderson, most of the secondary. Favre through a trade and Reggie as a FA. hardly a non hodge-podged team. bunch of great moves, did we fail if we lost in 96'?

those guys weren't literally one bad test/infraction from being suspended for an entire season; another guy getting quoted on radio about his "oh well i have to come here now" attitude; another guy with 38 kids and crazy legal problems... etc etc

granted guys like rison had question marks coming in but imo nothing compared to where santonio holmes is at right now if you've been following closely

mission
04-21-2010, 04:48 PM
and i completely forgot about the the brett favre torn biceps excuse... if he was so hurt, he should have put his "record" on the shelf for the betterment of his team. anyway you want to slice it, they didn't make the playoffs -- the move didn't work out for them. no it didn't because his arm gave out. last year pretty much solidified the fact that he was actually hurt and was not BSing us with excuses, did it not? i don't see how his arm giving out when it had shown zero signs of it in GB before the trade made it a dumb move for the jets. why they didn't shelf him? maybe because the whole biceps injury didn't become a public issue until AFTER the season was over.

the sum of favre (you don't just get the onfield QB) came back to bite them in the ass... him being him refused to communicate (to coaches) and that's WHY it wasn't public during the season. you honestly think favre was going to sit any games??? no way. it sold tickets/jerseys and got the franchise excited about football again but it wasn't what they thought it was going to be.

he played awesome last year... playing indoors and the adrian peterson focus allowed him to be him on the field. much better situation for him, and for the vikings. no doubt about it.

twoseven
04-21-2010, 04:51 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.
+1

our own GBP did the same kind of things as they matured from 94-96'. added guys like Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Keith Jackson, Desmond Howard, Eugene Robinson, Gilbert Brown, Don Beebe, (Rison and Ron Cox after injuries, both starters in the SB). Had drafted most of the OL, Freeman, Brooks and Chewie, Hentrich and Jacke, Levens and Henderson, most of the secondary. Favre through a trade and Reggie as a FA. hardly a non hodge-podged team. bunch of great moves, did we fail if we lost in 96'?

those guys weren't literally one bad test/infraction from being suspended for an entire season; another guy getting quoted on radio about his "oh well i have to come here now" attitude; another guy with 38 kids and crazy legal problems... etc etc

granted guys like rison had question marks coming in but imo nothing compared to where santonio holmes is at right now if you've been following closelyIF they gave up a 3rd rounder for holmes, dumb. they didn't. a 1st or 2nd rd pck to pair Crom with Revis, questionable. but they gave up a 2011 3rd rd pick for Cromartie, that might be the end of the 3rd rd. Taylor got what amounts to a one year 3.75M deal, LT got less per year. are any of these giving away the farm?

and how many of the packer FAs back before the SB wrere jumping up and down to come to GB?

mission
04-21-2010, 04:53 PM
Tomlinson for Jones is the one substitution that doesn't help them IMO. But they seem to have everything else in place to make a strong run at winning their division and even getting homefield advantage for the playoffs. The big question mark is, does Sanchez's development continue smoothly or does he have a sophomore slump?i had forgotten they let jones go, i don't like this move either.

it's just a real gambling mentality... not quite as calculated as the nfl is traditionally used to.

jones for LT? where's the logic? might be a better move, but man, it's hard to bet on it.

mission
04-21-2010, 05:09 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.
+1

our own GBP did the same kind of things as they matured from 94-96'. added guys like Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Keith Jackson, Desmond Howard, Eugene Robinson, Gilbert Brown, Don Beebe, (Rison and Ron Cox after injuries, both starters in the SB). Had drafted most of the OL, Freeman, Brooks and Chewie, Hentrich and Jacke, Levens and Henderson, most of the secondary. Favre through a trade and Reggie as a FA. hardly a non hodge-podged team. bunch of great moves, did we fail if we lost in 96'?

those guys weren't literally one bad test/infraction from being suspended for an entire season; another guy getting quoted on radio about his "oh well i have to come here now" attitude; another guy with 38 kids and crazy legal problems... etc etc

granted guys like rison had question marks coming in but imo nothing compared to where santonio holmes is at right now if you've been following closelyIF they gave up a 3rd rounder for holmes, dumb. they didn't. a 1st or 2nd rd pck to pair Crom with Revis, questionable. but they gave up a 2011 3rd rd pick for Cromartie, that might be the end of the 3rd rd. Taylor got what amounts to a one year 3.75M deal, LT got less per year. are any of these giving away the farm?

and how many of the packer FAs back before the SB wrere jumping up and down to come to GB?

i get the value (steal at face value i agree)... it's more about the team chemistry to me, buying into Ryanism. how will this affect the completely unselfish nature of the locker room? is it going to be the same 'no bullshit' vibe?

(i think our argument is getting to that end, round-and-round point lol)

as far as our guys, you're probably right but none were this vocal about it publicly AFAIR (made that up i think)

twoseven
04-21-2010, 05:14 PM
It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.
+1

our own GBP did the same kind of things as they matured from 94-96'. added guys like Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Keith Jackson, Desmond Howard, Eugene Robinson, Gilbert Brown, Don Beebe, (Rison and Ron Cox after injuries, both starters in the SB). Had drafted most of the OL, Freeman, Brooks and Chewie, Hentrich and Jacke, Levens and Henderson, most of the secondary. Favre through a trade and Reggie as a FA. hardly a non hodge-podged team. bunch of great moves, did we fail if we lost in 96'?

those guys weren't literally one bad test/infraction from being suspended for an entire season; another guy getting quoted on radio about his "oh well i have to come here now" attitude; another guy with 38 kids and crazy legal problems... etc etc

granted guys like rison had question marks coming in but imo nothing compared to where santonio holmes is at right now if you've been following closelyIF they gave up a 3rd rounder for holmes, dumb. they didn't. a 1st or 2nd rd pck to pair Crom with Revis, questionable. but they gave up a 2011 3rd rd pick for Cromartie, that might be the end of the 3rd rd. Taylor got what amounts to a one year 3.75M deal, LT got less per year. are any of these giving away the farm?

and how many of the packer FAs back before the SB wrere jumping up and down to come to GB?

i get the value (steal at face value i agree)... it's more about the team chemistry to me, buying into Ryanism. how will this affect the completely unselfish nature of the locker room? is it going to be the same 'no bullshit' vibe?

(i think our argument is getting to that end, round-and-round point lol)

as far as our guys, you're probably right but none were this vocal about it publicly AFAIR (made that up i think)i don't like arguing with the normal, decent posters on this forum like you. i can see you are not a fan of the Jets, i just admire that they have made similiar good moves to ours since 2005 and have been rewarded as we have with solid teams. they have just done it with more FA, taken chances on older guys like Jenkins and Faneca that have worked out. i like teams like the Jets to do well for the same reason i like the Cubs to do well, don't mind if they win.

mission
04-21-2010, 05:23 PM
i don't like arguing with the normal, decent posters on this forum like you. i can see you are not a fan of the Jets, i just admire that they have made similiar good moves to ours since 2005 and have been rewarded as we have with solid teams. they have just done it with more FA, taken chances on older guys like Jenkins and Faneca that have worked out. i like teams like the Jets to do well for the same reason i like the Cubs to do well, don't mind if they win.

tbh, i secretly rooted for the jets last year and probably will again if it doesn't affect the pack. there's a lot to like about their organization. will be fun to watch either way.

now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :D

twoseven
04-21-2010, 06:26 PM
i don't like arguing with the normal, decent posters on this forum like you. i can see you are not a fan of the Jets, i just admire that they have made similiar good moves to ours since 2005 and have been rewarded as we have with solid teams. they have just done it with more FA, taken chances on older guys like Jenkins and Faneca that have worked out. i like teams like the Jets to do well for the same reason i like the Cubs to do well, don't mind if they win.

tbh, i secretly rooted for the jets last year and probably will again if it doesn't affect the pack. there's a lot to like about their organization. will be fun to watch either way.

now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :Di root for the cubs like i root for seniors with no bowel control (channeled Skinbasket with that one), i don't like them so much as i just feel sorry for them, it's been so long and you just want to see them stop sucking ass year after year cause for some reason it seems good for the game. that's why i root for the Jets when pushed, cause of that dumbass in his Jets Firehat getting the crowd going, that's good stuff. been a Mets fan since 84' and i can say with all my heart fuck the Braves. but Bobby Cox is one of the greats and Larry doesn't kick our ass like he used to. so to hell with the phillies.

swede
04-21-2010, 06:40 PM
now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :D

Did you catch the SI article on how the Braves sandbagged the league with this kid? They had been scouting him since he was ELEVEN. His numbers were deliberately fudged to throw off other teams. This stuff gets pulled all the time in the local youth football league... young football studs dog their way through tryouts knowing that their best friend's dad will draft them late after picking other good players. I can't believe the Braves were able to pull this off at the big league level. #22 got drafted with what...the 13th pic? The Brewers had no clue who the kid was and drafted Matt LaPorta ahead of him.

mission
04-21-2010, 07:04 PM
now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :D

Did you catch the SI article on how the Braves sandbagged the league with this kid? They had been scouting him since he was ELEVEN. His numbers were deliberately fudged to throw off other teams. This stuff gets pulled all the time in the local youth football league... young football studs dog their way through tryouts knowing that their best friend's dad will draft them late after picking other good players. I can't believe the Braves were able to pull this off at the big league level. #22 got drafted with what...the 13th pic? The Brewers had no clue who the kid was and drafted Matt LaPorta ahead of him.

No I haven't read that article, definitely interested tho! Never heard any of that ... on local radio they talked about he was so vocal as a high schooler about only wanting to play for the braves and that scared other teams off on signing him. supposedly he would have went to college to play ball instead if drafted by a team other than them.

Now the reason for those comments??? Haha it makes a bit more sense now if they were on the "cover up" and probably even paying him early (why not?). He's awesome though... and so humble, already doing tons of stuff for underprivileged locally... we love him. :D

swede
04-21-2010, 07:25 PM
now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :D

Did you catch the SI article on how the Braves sandbagged the league with this kid? They had been scouting him since he was ELEVEN. His numbers were deliberately fudged to throw off other teams. This stuff gets pulled all the time in the local youth football league... young football studs dog their way through tryouts knowing that their best friend's dad will draft them late after picking other good players. I can't believe the Braves were able to pull this off at the big league level. #22 got drafted with what...the 13th pic? The Brewers had no clue who the kid was and drafted Matt LaPorta ahead of him.

No I haven't read that article, definitely interested tho! Never heard any of that ... on local radio they talked about he was so vocal as a high schooler about only wanting to play for the braves and that scared other teams off on signing him. supposedly he would have went to college to play ball instead if drafted by a team other than them.

Now the reason for those comments??? Haha it makes a bit more sense now if they were on the "cover up" and probably even paying him early (why not?). He's awesome though... and so humble, already doing tons of stuff for underprivileged locally... we love him. :D

I can believe that. He grew up wanting to be a Brave.

The last time I remember SI slobbering over a young man like this it was a kid named LeBron James.

mission
04-21-2010, 07:33 PM
now i hate the cubs with everything ive got, but i understand the feeling. living in atlanta, it's hard not to be excited about the braves and the J-HEY KID BABBBBY!!! LOL I even got a Braves cap (for the games), something I never woulda thought possible. Love this kid #22... it might be a bit over your cubs alignment but im still a brewers fan :D

Did you catch the SI article on how the Braves sandbagged the league with this kid? They had been scouting him since he was ELEVEN. His numbers were deliberately fudged to throw off other teams. This stuff gets pulled all the time in the local youth football league... young football studs dog their way through tryouts knowing that their best friend's dad will draft them late after picking other good players. I can't believe the Braves were able to pull this off at the big league level. #22 got drafted with what...the 13th pic? The Brewers had no clue who the kid was and drafted Matt LaPorta ahead of him.

No I haven't read that article, definitely interested tho! Never heard any of that ... on local radio they talked about he was so vocal as a high schooler about only wanting to play for the braves and that scared other teams off on signing him. supposedly he would have went to college to play ball instead if drafted by a team other than them.

Now the reason for those comments??? Haha it makes a bit more sense now if they were on the "cover up" and probably even paying him early (why not?). He's awesome though... and so humble, already doing tons of stuff for underprivileged locally... we love him. :D

I can believe that. He grew up wanting to be a Brave.

The last time I remember SI slobbering over a young man like this it was a kid named LeBron James.

ya and the last guy to have 16 rbi after 13 games was ted williams :P

twoseven
04-21-2010, 08:01 PM
The last time I remember SI slobbering over a young man like this it was a kid named LeBron James.and before that was Sid Finch and his 168mph fastball
http://strongmemories.com/01finch.1842.jpg
'He's a pitcher, part yogi and part recluse. Impressively liberated from our opulent life-style, Sidd's deciding about yoga--and his future in baseball'