Official Packers vs. Browns Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

I get the first one!

Hope the training camp phenoms (Shields and Porter) show something tonight.
Should probably see a lot of Bulaga at both Guard and Tackle.
I would also expect Underwood and Lee to get a lot of time tonight. The better of the two might be the nickel when the season starts.

[Brandon494]

I also want to see how the best backup QB in the league does tonight.

[falco]

I wonder if CWood is even going to play? If I'm M3, I let him sit and let the young guys get all the reps.

[falco]

I hope Burnett lights it up and shows Bigby that he's going to be riding the pine all year.

Bigby looked awesome against the Seahawks in 07 training camp. Remember when he hurdled the OL and sacked the QB?

[Joemailman]

I wonder if CWood is even going to play? If I'm M3, I let him sit and let the young guys get all the reps.

MM said he would play. Expect a quarter.

[MTPackerfan]

does anyone know if this will be streamed online somewhere?

[channtheman]

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/klldiokd-470899-watch-packers-vs-browns-nfl-preseason-live-stream-online-free-pc-we/

I found this. I don't know if it is actually going to stream the game though.

Edit: I think I'm going to be able to find a live stream on Justin.tv when the game starts. Their is one going on right now for the Tampa Bay game. I'll post a link in here and a new thread if I find one.

[denverYooper]

http://www.justin.tv/sports4life69#/w/317101936

[MTPackerfan]

http://www.justin.tv/sports4life69#/w/317101936

thanks a lot for the link

[channtheman]

http://www.justin.tv/sports4life69#/w/317101936

Beat me to it. Thanks man!

[VegasPackFan]

No GB station streaming on their site?

[Willard]

1st string offense has had a tough time against 1st string defense so far this camp. Hopefully Rodgers shines tonight. That may also tell us how good our defense will be!

Looking forward to seeing the rooks: Bulaga, Burnett. Also want to see Jenkins/Raji/Pickett collapse the pocket.

[pittstang5]

Defense looks like crap

[VegasPackFan]

Getting beat by the short timing routes again.... Am I back in AZ?

[MTPackerfan]

def not looking very tough. Browns moved right down the field

[pittstang5]

fumble already...season looks bright.

[VegasPackFan]

UGHH. Well, maybe they will figure out that all the pre-season hype doesnt mean that teams are going to roll over for them

[MTPackerfan]

wow, :shock:

[pittstang5]

Wow...glad it's preseason...they don't look good at all.

[Willard]

I dont think this team will win a game all season

.....just kidding.

[hoosier]

Last year they were on fire in the preseason and then quickly came down to earth when the real games started. I'm all for getting all the crappy play out of the way in August.

[pittstang5]

Are the browns this good or are the Packers this bad....

[denverYooper]

How about that Jeremiah Finley?

[retailguy]

Are the browns this good or are the Packers this bad....

don't panic. it's preseason. watch the OL. Its the only thing that matters.

[retailguy]

How about that Jeremiah Finley?

I'll call him anything he wants if he keeps catching them like that.

[pittstang5]

How about that Jeremiah Finley?

UH! Yeah. What is up with the guy.

[Willard]

How about that Jeremiah Finley?
lol.

[pittstang5]

Are the browns this good or are the Packers this bad....

don't panic. it's preseason. watch the OL. Its the only thing that matters.

Yeah, I know. But still, I've been worried about the "D" and I think my worries are valid after that first series.

[MTPackerfan]

argghhh, justin TV just lost teh feed, shut down by NFL

[TravisWilliams23]

How about that Jeremiah Finley?

It's preseason for the announcers too!

[VegasPackFan]

The feed has been debacled!!!

[pittstang5]

argghhh, justin TV just lost teh feed, shut down by NFL

Son of a!!!!

[Scott Campbell]

I need me some pirate preseason football!

[retailguy]

nice catch by jones.

[Brandon494]

argghhh, justin TV just lost teh feed, shut down by NFL

what a joke, its the f-cking preseason

[MTPackerfan]

dam the NFL, sucks

[retailguy]

try this for a feed:


http://www.atdhe.net

[retailguy]

TD JENNINGS! Nice looking play.

[Brandon494]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nfl-4.html

another link

TD Rodgers to Jennings!

[Joemailman]

Nice recognition by Arod on the corner blitz. Gotta make 'em pay.

[VegasPackFan]

WORKS!

[pittstang5]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nfl-4.html

another link

TD Rodgers to Jennings!

You da man Brandon...thanks!

[pittstang5]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nfl-4.html

another link

TD Rodgers to Jennings!

You da man Brandon...thanks!

and It's got GReenbay annoucers too....OH, THank you so much.

[MTPackerfan]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nfl-4.html

another link

TD Rodgers to Jennings!

thats a good one, thanks

[retailguy]

our stellar special teams play continues.

[retailguy]

great throw to Jennings! 35 yards.

[MTPackerfan]

offensive is looking pretty sharp except for the fumbles

[Brandon494]

another fumble :roll:

Atleast we got it back

[pittstang5]

after 1 quarter...THumbs up to Offense.....Down to Special Teams and Defense.

[Scott Campbell]

No thumbs up to our running game.

[retailguy]

No thumbs up to our running game.

Thumbs up to the OL though. They have played well, and Bulaga has been in there at LG.

[Brandon494]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

[Joemailman]

Kuhn!!!

Quinn Johnson is in trouble.

Great to see Arod dump the ball off to the back for a nice gain.

[MTPackerfan]

nice run by Kuhn, rumblin, stumblin, and getting in!!

[pittstang5]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

Thought and said the same exact thing.

[Brando19]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

Kuhn is one of the best FB's in the league.

[retailguy]

Kuhn!!!

Quinn Johnson is in trouble.

Great to see Arod dump the ball off to the back for a nice gain.

we're keeping 3 fb's and 4 te's. probably 4 receivers.

[Joemailman]

Well, that might be it for the starters. Let the roster battles begin.

[retailguy]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

Kuhn is one of the best FB's in the league.

That's pushing it a bit. You've had enough koolaid for the night! :wink:

[Brando19]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

Kuhn is one of the best FB's in the league.

That's pushing it a bit. You've had enough koolaid for the night! :wink:

:lol: I know I know...but the son of a gun is top 5!

[retailguy]

I like senaca wallace too. Been watching him since he was in Seattle. Really enjoy watching someone overachieve.

[pittstang5]

Is it me or does Poppinga actually look decent.

[retailguy]

nice run Kuhn!!!

Hes not getting cut

Kuhn is one of the best FB's in the league.

That's pushing it a bit. You've had enough koolaid for the night! :wink:

:lol: I know I know...but the son of a gun is top 5!

No koolaid tomorrow either! :wink:

[retailguy]

Is it me or does Poppinga actually look decent.

he's had a couple good plays tonight.

[MTPackerfan]

nice play by Collins, after the screw up on the screen

[retailguy]

great play by Collins! nice batted ball.

[MTPackerfan]

is chillar sitting out tonight?

[retailguy]

is chillar sitting out tonight?

don't think so. I saw him earlier. suited up at least.

[Brandon494]

come on Hawk

[MTPackerfan]

is chillar sitting out tonight?

don't think so. I saw him earlier. suited up at least.

seems like Poppinga has been playing and Jones at OLB.

Hawk just got schooled by Watson. Defense not appearing very solid now

[retailguy]

is chillar sitting out tonight?

don't think so. I saw him earlier. suited up at least.

seems like Poppinga has been playing and Jones at OLB.

Hawk just got schooled by Watson. Defense not appearing very solid now

Yes, was surprised to see Jones playing so early. I saw Chillar, but the feed was choppy at that point, and wasn't sure if he was playing or not.

[Willard]

what happened to Grant? Bell rung?

[pittstang5]

Uh...Why is Rogers still in?

[retailguy]

what happened to Grant? Bell rung?

Yeah, he was shaken up on a play. wrist, I believe, but again, feed was not good at the time so I am unsure.

[pittstang5]

what happened to Grant? Bell rung?

Yep.

[VegasPackFan]

what happened to Grant? Bell rung?

Yep, he did the drunken stumble to the sidelines

[Brandon494]

Uh...Why is Rogers still in?

Good question

[Willard]

let the punt competition begin!

[retailguy]

bryan with the first punt...

[pittstang5]

That's It...I've had it with Slocum.....what does he have on McCarthy that this guy still has a job.

[retailguy]

nice punt but outkicked his coverage. Net of 40 isn't bad though.... better than last season, that's for sure.

[retailguy]

That's It...I've had it with Slocum.....what does he have on McCarthy that this guy still has a job.

probably the same naked photos that jarrett bush has.

[pittstang5]

That's It...I've had it with Slocum.....what does he have on McCarthy that this guy still has a job.

probably the same naked photos that jarrett bush has.

LOL

[denverYooper]

nice punt but outkicked his coverage. Net of 40 isn't bad though.... better than last season, that's for sure.

Amen

[Willard]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

[retailguy]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

I was late to the game. Did Delhomme play?

[Willard]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

I was late to the game. Did Delhomme play?
yes he started. I thought he looked very good.

[rbaloha1]

Mr. August is playing well with Hawk.

[retailguy]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

I was late to the game. Did Delhomme play?
yes he started. I thought he looked very good.

Must have 4 QB's then. Colt should play a lot. It's the only playing time he should get this season.

I really liked Colt at Texas. Unsure he'll make it, but I think he's gonna be better than a 3rd round pick.

[Brandon494]

hahaha did he really just bring up the best backup article.

[MTPackerfan]

who is the color guy on this feed? Sounds like an ex QB

[pittstang5]

hahaha did he really just bring up the best backup article.

Yep...then he goes 3 and out.

[retailguy]

justine harrell sighting!

[pittstang5]

who is the color guy on this feed? Sounds like an ex QB

It's usual Gannon

[Brandon494]

who is the color guy on this feed? Sounds like an ex QB

He is but I forget his name.

[Brandon494]

who is the color guy on this feed? Sounds like an ex QB

It's usual Gannon

bingo, its Gannon

[retailguy]

good play by underwood.

[Willard]

someone just got drilled by Underwood. where is the DA?

[retailguy]

someone just got drilled by Underwood. where is the DA?

That was Jake Allen. Remember him from last year training camp?

[Brandon494]

Shields what are you doing?

[retailguy]

GRRR. Shields lost another one.

[pittstang5]

That was f'n stupid.....stupid...stupid.

[MTPackerfan]

shields is gonna drop ball his way out of camp

[Willard]

maybe somebody else can catch the punts then just hand-off to Shields! what a nightmare: 0 for 2!

[rbaloha1]

GRRR. Shields lost another one.

Too inconsistent. Need to find someone else while Blackman is out.

[Brandon494]

I don't tihnk we can trust Shields at punt returnings....Im ok with leaving him in at kick returner but we need someone with my solid hands returning punts.

[denverYooper]

Shields is not making a good case for himself

Thought Harrell was going to grab that last pass, tho. He's not lookin' too shabby.

[MTPackerfan]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?

[denverYooper]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?

Yep

[Willard]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?
crap. me too. next link?

[VegasPackFan]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?

GONE

[pittstang5]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?

Yep

Me too.

[MTPackerfan]

that feed just disappeared for me, what about you guys>?

Yep

dam, not again

[MTPackerfan]

looks like the NFL struck again

[denverYooper]

Underwood just had an INT... Not that I could see it

[retailguy]

It's back up for me.

[retailguy]

Flynn to Nelson. 9 yards good throw.

[pittstang5]

http://www.atdhe.net

[Willard]

It's back up for me.
i'm lost. can u resend link?

[VegasPackFan]

HIt refresh and it is wroking again

[retailguy]

It's back up for me.
i'm lost. can u resend link?

Use pittstang's link.

http://www.atdhe.net

scroll about halfway down.

[MTPackerfan]

got it back also

[retailguy]

this server is hosted in Sweden. Nothing is a guarantee, but that should be out of the NFL's realm.

[Willard]

It's back up for me.
i'm lost. can u resend link?

Use pittstang's link.

http://www.atdhe.net

scroll about halfway down.
thanks to the both of you

[retailguy]

It's back up for me.
i'm lost. can u resend link?

Use pittstang's link.

http://www.atdhe.net

scroll about halfway down.
thanks to the both of you

No problem

[Brandon494]

Weak ass arm.... sorry but NOT the best backup in the league.

[retailguy]

Weak ass arm.... sorry but NOT the best backup in the league.

Wasn't a bad throw for a right handed QB rolling to his left.

[Joemailman]

shields is gonna drop ball his way out of camp

He'll make the team just on potential. Not likely he'll be returning punts though.

[rbaloha1]

shields is gonna drop ball his way out of camp

He'll make the team just on potential. Not likely he'll be returning punts though.

No wonder he was shifted defense from receiver.

[retailguy]

shields is gonna drop ball his way out of camp

He'll make the team just on potential. Not likely he'll be returning punts though.

Even if he's back there it doesn't look like he'll be returning any punts.

[Willard]

Rodgers looked good, but 14 rushing yards in the first half aint gonna do it.

[KYPack]

It shows the game, then goes back to that scoreboard deal, right?

[retailguy]

It shows the game, then goes back to that scoreboard deal, right?

Yeah. No commercials. It should be back up now.

[MTPackerfan]

i lost it again

[retailguy]

i lost it again

It's back again.

[Willard]

Jordy should pull that in........Lumpkin scores!!

[MTPackerfan]

i lost it again

It's back again.

got it back with the other link

[rbaloha1]

Barbre looks much better as a guard. Maybe Colledge could be traded.

[Willard]

Barbre looks much better as a guard. Maybe Colledge could be traded.
It wouldnt surprise me a bit--unless Spitz reinjures his back.

[MTPackerfan]

special teams are still pretty poor. should have replaced slocum

[TravisWilliams23]

Special teams playing like special ed.

[Joemailman]

Bulaga looks pretty solid, although I have no idea who he's lining up against.

Lumpkin looks pretty ordinary to me. Strong but nothing special. Porter has some quickness.

[Willard]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

I was late to the game. Did Delhomme play?
yes he started. I thought he looked very good.

Must have 4 QB's then. Colt should play a lot. It's the only playing time he should get this season.

I really liked Colt at Texas. Unsure he'll make it, but I think he's gonna be better than a 3rd round pick.
He definitely seems to know how to run also.

[KYPack]

Harrell's in OK shape.

The Harrell whiners can slow down.

[pittstang5]

how many QBs does Holmgren have? They have Colt in there with 8+ in the 2nd!?

I was late to the game. Did Delhomme play?
yes he started. I thought he looked very good.

Must have 4 QB's then. Colt should play a lot. It's the only playing time he should get this season.

I really liked Colt at Texas. Unsure he'll make it, but I think he's gonna be better than a 3rd round pick.
He definitely seems to know how to run also.

Yeah...it's pissing me off.

[denverYooper]

Harrell's in OK shape.

The Harrell whiners can slow down.

I think his biceps are bigger than my quads.

[Willard]

Special teams playing like special ed.
Roadrunner got this right!

[Brandon494]

I see a lot of Brady Quinn in Colt McCoy.

[rbaloha1]

Harrell's in OK shape.

The Harrell whiners can slow down.

Splits double teams and moves the pocket. Neal is also very powerful. Both lines are blessed with depth and youth.

[Willard]

Just like last pre-season -- I like Lumpkin.

[Brandon494]

Harrell's in OK shape.

The Harrell whiners can slow down.

Splits double teams and moves the pocket. Neal is also very powerful. Both lines are blessed with depth and youth.

Yea he wasnt a first round talent for no reason, has just had bad luck with injuries. Hoping he can stay healthy and make the team.

[pittstang5]

lost the feed again!

[Brandon494]

Just like last pre-season -- I like Lumpkin.

Yea he is looking nice but I want to see Porter run the ball.

[Willard]

Harrell's in OK shape.

The Harrell whiners can slow down.

Splits double teams and moves the pocket. Neal is also very powerful. Both lines are blessed with depth and youth.

Yea he wasnt a first round talent for no reason, has just had bad luck with injuries. Hoping he can stay healthy and make the team.
That would make for a nice big rotation!

[Willard]

lost the feed again!
yep

[MTPackerfan]

lost the feed again!
yep

me too

[Brandon494]

whats up with this feed..... :x

Of course all the other games are working

[KYPack]

me 2

[Brandon494]

there we go!

[Brandon494]

Martin with the INT on McCoy!

[pittstang5]

Martin with the INT on McCoy!

DAMN IT. That's Both INTs If missed because of this damn feed...I still don't have it back.

[MTPackerfan]

Martin with the INT on McCoy!

DAMN IT. That's Both INTs If missed because of this damn feed...I still don't have it back.

i got it back but not until after the INT. Nice play by Gio... recovering Lumpkins fumble

[Willard]

Martin with the INT on McCoy!

DAMN IT. That's Both INTs If missed because of this damn feed...I still don't have it back.
I missed the 1st TD also. Damn swedes...lol.

[retailguy]

Martin with the INT on McCoy!

DAMN IT. That's Both INTs If missed because of this damn feed...I still don't have it back.
I missed the 1st TD also. Damn swedes...lol.

Yeah. Really. What do you expect for free? :P

I love the swedes, even when they're frustrating. :wink:

[KYPack]

Frankenbacker lives!

Reps on O & D?

[Brandon494]

I would like to see more of Quinn Porter running the ball for the rest of the game

[MTPackerfan]

lost it again. I am watching the Bears game, that game hasn't been lost once.

[retailguy]

Frankenbacker lives!

Reps on O & D?

maybe they're only planning to keep 8 lb's. that would allow a 7th DL...

[retailguy]

lost it again. I am watching the Bears game, that game hasn't been lost once.

Why would you do this? :shock:

Just kidding, I switched to the Viking game for a while. It went down too. :oops:

[MTPackerfan]

lost it again. I am watching the Bears game, that game hasn't been lost once.

Why would you do this? :shock:

Just kidding, I switched to the Viking game for a while. It went down too. :oops:

there is a kid trying to make the Chargers team that Played at Montana State, that is the only reason, i was seeing if he was playing. Honest. :oops:

[rbaloha1]

lost it again. I am watching the Bears game, that game hasn't been lost once.

feed always rtns.

[Joemailman]

Wouldn't it make for sense for you guys to move to Wisconsin so you can watch the game on TV?

[rbaloha1]

Newhouse looks good at at left tackle -- bends knees easily and has good feet.

Quinn Johnson is too inconsistent. Either crushes an opponent or whiffs. Overall the Packer youngsters display talent.

[Willard]

Wouldn't it make for sense for you guys to move to Wisconsin so you can watch the game on TV?
That would go over real good with the missus!

[retailguy]

Wouldn't it make for sense for you guys to move to Wisconsin so you can watch the game on TV?

Yeah. The hell with the career. :P

Doyle killed all your jobs. 10th highest taxes in the nation.

Sign me up. :lol:

[Lurker64]

You know, the announcers said that was a horrible punt by Bryan, but really... with the way we've been doing coverage on kicks and punts, would we have done better than giving them the ball on the 35?

[pittstang5]

Crosby needs to study under Dawson.

[gbgary]

game over?

[Kiwon]

:(

[Willard]

game over?
yep. ok by me.

[pittstang5]

Thank god that's over. Lot of work to do. Special teams especially. Slocum should be fired right now.

[Joemailman]

Could have been worse. Could have had OT.

[gbgary]

so how did they lose it? i was looking at the nfl.com game track and it stopped at 1:42 with the Pack on top.

[retailguy]

so how did they lose it? i was looking at the nfl.com game track and it stopped at 1:42 with the Pack on top.

Dawson pair of field goals - the last from 46 yards. Would have been good from 66...

[Joemailman]

58 yard field goal. Packers went 3 and out. Low punt gave Browns decent field position. 46 yard field goal.

[pittstang5]

so how did they lose it? i was looking at the nfl.com game track and it stopped at 1:42 with the Pack on top.

Dawson nailed a 58 or 59 yard field goal to tie. Pack get ball back under 2 min....do nothing with it. Browns get ball and get into field goal range and win.

[gbgary]

daaaaaaaayum! oh well.

[falco]

one of the few times i will be hoping for the opposing kicker to make a kick at the end of regulation

[red]

how long are they going to keep slocum around, the guy has been a disaster since day one

i loved on the first punt how they showed a replay of us double teaming the gunner and holding him up, meanwhile you could see 9 other browns run down field unblocked

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rewatched the game. I watched these guys on every play:

Bryan Bulaga
Morgan Burnett
Brad Jones
Brandon Chillar
B.J. Raji
Justin Harrell

My thoughts:

Bulaga - Outside of getting knocked on his ass on a bull rush, I thought Bulaga played well. (I thought Colledge also had a nice game.)

Burnett - I was a bit disappointed. He was indecisive, missed tackles, tooks some bad angles.

Jones/Chillar - Both were good in coverage, were fine in the run game, but didn't get a whiff of the QB. Went against Joe Thomas much of the night.

Raji - It wasn't a good night for Raji. He didn't provide much of a rush, and he also didn't hold up the blocks well. He washed out on too many plays.

Harrell - Nothing spectacular, but I thought he was a bit better than Raji (of course, he was going up against backups). Stood his ground and got some push at times.

[vince]

Raji - It wasn't a good night for Raji. He didn't provide much of a rush, and he also didn't hold up the blocks well. He washed out on too many plays.
Agreed. I only watched the game once live, but for such a stubby guy, it seemed to me that he got stood up and moved too often.

Going back to his college highlight vids, even on his good plays, he seemed to want to get high right away to see the play and use his natural athleticism to react. Guys couldn't move him out like they can in the NFL. THis carries over from the times he played NT last year from my memory.

I'm confident he'll figure it out/continue to get coached up about it, and it's the first preseason game, so it's a good opportunity to reinforce his fundamentals, but if he keeps this up, he'll find himself relegated to nickel packages only while Pickett moves in and Neal/Harrell step in to play DE in base.

[RashanGary]

Rewatched the game. I watched these guys on every play:

Bryan Bulaga
Morgan Burnett
Brad Jones
Brandon Chillar
B.J. Raji
Justin Harrell

My thoughts:

Bulaga - Outside of getting knocked on his ass on a bull rush, I thought Bulaga played well. (I thought Colledge also had a nice game.)

Burnett - I was a bit disappointed. He was indecisive, missed tackles, tooks some bad angles.

Jones/Chillar - Both were good in coverage, were fine in the run game, but didn't get a whiff of the QB. Went against Joe Thomas much of the night.

Raji - It wasn't a good night for Raji. He didn't provide much of a rush, and he also didn't hold up the blocks well. He washed out on too many plays.

Harrell - Nothing spectacular, but I thought he was a bit better than Raji (of course, he was going up against backups). Stood his ground and got some push at times.

Thanks. I didn't get to watch the game. Good to hear about Harrell. He has a long, long, long way to go before we should be counting our chickens, but it's kind of exciting to think we might have another NFL caliber backup DL on the roster.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I forgot to watch Mike Neal the first time, so I rewatched the tape. I thought he looked good. He was a load for journeyman (but long-time NFL backup) Scott Kooistra. He drove him back on most plays. He also showed great awareness on a screen play. He looked a tad undersized, but he looked strong, pretty athletic, and showed some awareness.

So, thumbs down to Raji and Burnett with thumbs up to Bulaga and Neal.

[RashanGary]

I forgot to watch Mike Neal the first time, so I rewatched the tape. I thought he looked good. He was a load for journeyman (but long-time NFL backup) Scott Kooistra. He drove him back on most plays. He also showed great awareness on a screen play. He looked a tad undersized, but he looked strong, pretty athletic, and showed some awareness.

So, thumbs down to Raji and Burnett with thumbs up to Bulaga and Neal.

It's funny, I watched the game today with my brother. I didn't remember exactly what everyone had said. When I left, I said ot my brother, "So we can feel good about Neal and Bulaga and bad about Raji, Burnett and I also thought Underwood looked lost at times."

[RashanGary]

We need to pray Harris is a good nickle back because I don't think Underwood is.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers was amazing. James Jones is better than Jordy Nelson.

[retailguy]

Rodgers was amazing.

he looked like Peyton Manning facing Bob Slowik's defense. :D :wink:

[RashanGary]

Rodgers was amazing.

he looked like Peyton Manning facing Bob Slowik's defense. :D :wink:

Yeah. Pretty much. His weak point, holding the ball. . . . He was decisive. When there was an open guy he hit him, when there was pressure, he made tough throws in tighter single coverage, but did NOT hold the ball. . . . EVER. It's a good sign.

[retailguy]

Rodgers was amazing.

he looked like Peyton Manning facing Bob Slowik's defense. :D :wink:

Yeah. Pretty much. His weak point, holding the ball. . . . He was decisive. When there was an open guy he hit him, when there was pressure, he made tough throws in tighter single coverage, but did NOT hold the ball. . . . EVER. It's a good sign.

I never bought into the whole "holding the ball thing". I, at the time, blamed it on Colledge and the rest of the OL, and I still feel that way. I would counter that it is good to see that Rodgers trusts his protection now and is performing without fear of getting killed.

[RashanGary]

Yeah, there were several reasons. Rodgers has come a long way in his two years starting though. I see a different guy and this being the best OL he's had, it's going to help too.

And then there's Finley. . . It's going to be a huge year for the Packers offense. I think we're all expecting that.

[retailguy]

Yeah, there were several reasons. Rodgers has come a long way in his two years starting though. I see a different guy and this being the best OL he's had, it's going to help too.

And then there's Finley. . . It's going to be a huge year for the Packers offense. I think we're all expecting that.

agree. would be a total let down to get anything other than this.

[The Leaper]

Our defense is not an elite unit. We played lots of weak offenses last season and took advantage of a plethora of turnovers. Our schedule this year is much more loaded in terms of opposing offenses. I'm really afraid this defense takes a step back.

However, our offense should be very strong. I'm not a fan whatsoever of our running game. Grant is mediocre...Jackson is a 3rd down back. RB is going to have to be a major focus next offseason.