Official Packers vs. Seahawks Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

There should probably be a medal for any of the eastern time zone 'Rats who watch the whole game. Then again, who doesn't want to stay up until 1:00 A.M. to watch 3rd stringers?

Things to watch:

LG battle: Bulaga continues to get good reviews, but Colledge hasn't done badly.

FB: Quinn Johnson needs to do some really positive things on a consistent basis. I think he's on the outside looking in right now.

RB: Great chance for Quinn Porter to shine with Lumpkin and Starks nursing hamstring injuries.

WR: James Jones seems to be pulling ahead of Jordy Nelson. Driver may not play, so both should get plenty of reps tonight.

CB: Would like to see Underwood eliminate mental mistakes. Woodson may not play, so he and Lee will get plenty of reps at CB and Nickel. Also hope to see a lot of Sam Shields.

DL: Where is Justin? Is he on the field?

S: Hope to see some progress from Burnett. Will be watching Derrick Martin who looks to be improved this year. He could make Bigby expendable.

ST: I'll take a reasonable amount of competence on the return and coverage units after what we saw last week. Bryan had a pretty good week of practice. I sense he is pulling ahead of Mastay, but the games are what matter most.

[CaptainKickass]

I'm gonna be in a house full of Chicken Hawks fans. I'll be bringing a "nice" platter of cheese. Also bringing chicken to throw on the grill. Nothing says "Hawks lose" like dead, burnt bird, from the grill.

:D :D

[RashanGary]

I'm hoping to see Underwood and Lee play with a clue, but I doubt it's going to happen.

[CaptainKickass]

I'm hoping to see Underwood and Lee play clue, but I doubt it's going to happen.

How does playing a board game help them win at Football?



http://www.phawker.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/clue-game.jpg

[Lurker64]

According to Bedard: Barnett, Woodson, and Driver were all left in Green Bay because McCarthy wanted to limit wear and tear on those guys.

More according to Bedard: Woodson, Lumpkin, Starks, Joseph, Hawk, Barnett, Jones [Brad], and Driver all didn't make the trip.

Our starting LBs are going to be Poppinga, Bishop, Francois, and Chillar... so don't expect the defense to look respectable.

[pbmax]

I am mobile tonight but will be checking in from a wedding reception. Keep the updates with scores pouring in while I ignore social obligations.

[rbaloha1]

There should probably be a medal for any of the eastern time zone 'Rats who watch the whole game. Then again, who doesn't want to stay up until 1:00 A.M. to watch 3rd stringers?

Things to watch:

LG battle: Bulaga continues to get good reviews, but Colledge hasn't done badly.

Agreed

FB: Quinn Johnson needs to do some really positive things on a consistent basis. I think he's on the outside looking in right now.

Quinn is too consistent -- either blows up his guy or whiffs

RB: Great chance for Quinn Porter to shine with Lumpkin and Starks nursing hamstring injuries.

Agreed

WR: James Jones seems to be pulling ahead of Jordy Nelson. Driver may not play, so both should get plenty of reps tonight.

Unsure who is the current #3

CB: Would like to see Underwood eliminate mental mistakes. Woodson may not play, so he and Lee will get plenty of reps at CB and Nickel. Also hope to see a lot of Sam Shields.

Agreed

DL: Where is Justin? Is he on the field?

Agreed

S: Hope to see some progress from Burnett. Will be watching Derrick Martin who looks to be improved this year. He could make Bigby expendable.

How many deep passes are being completed? So far so good with Burnett.

ST: I'll take a reasonable amount of competence on the return and coverage units after what we saw last week. Bryan had a pretty good week of practice. I sense he is pulling ahead of Mastay, but the games are what matter most.

Toss-up


Nice overall assessment.

[rbaloha1]

* S Atari Bigby, CB Charles Woodson, RB Kregg Lumpkin, RB James Starks, LB Alex Joseph, LB A.J. Hawk, LB Nick Barnett, LB Brad Jones, WR Donald Driver.
* Jones has a shoulder sprain that happened Thursday night. Didn't make the trip.
* Lineup changes: Brady Poppinga for Matthews, Desmond Bishop for Hawk, Robert Francois for Barnett, Brandon Underwood for Woodson.


Let the competition begin![/u]

[Lurker64]

Let the competition begin!

It's not really a competition when the backup is playing because the starter is out. I just hope Bishop doesn't look like a retard out there tonight, as is his wont.

[rbaloha1]

Let the competition begin!

It's not really a competition when the backup is playing because the starter is out. I just hope Bishop doesn't look like a retard out there tonight, as is his wont.

Hawk is out. No more Bishop excuses.

[Lurker64]

Let the competition begin!

It's not really a competition when the backup is playing because the starter is out. I just hope Bishop doesn't look like a retard out there tonight, as is his wont.

Hawk is out. No more Bishop excuses.

Well, I agree with you in the sense that if Bishop doesn't look good, he had better damn well stop whining about not getting enough playing time. This is his "put up or shut up" moment.

[Lurker64]

Our backup LBs in this game are Frank Zombo, Maurice Simpkins and Spencer Havner. Maybe we should play like a 4-2-5 or something.

Oh wait, also Obiozor. So we have 4 and 4. We're still down 7 preferred starters on defense though.

[imscott72]

Really interested in seeing Harrell perform tonight, along with Colledge and Baluga..Go Pack and let's keep everyone healthy..

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Anyone got a good link?

[Lurker64]

Anyone got a good link?

It'll be live on NFLN if you get it.

[Joemailman]

How many times will Gannon say ath-a-letic?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Anyone got a good link?

It'll be live on NFLN if you get it.

Nope I don't. If I find something I will post it.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

This one is good.

[Lurker64]

Hey, special teams didn't look awful!

[mission]

At TJ's... no sign of Waldo :( :lol:

[mission]

thing of beauty right there wow!!

[Lurker64]

thing of beauty right there wow!!

The funny thing is that Jennings was getting held like the whole time.

[mission]

finley's unstoppable

[mission]

thing of beauty right there wow!!

The funny thing is that Jennings was getting held like the whole time.

Can't believe he caught up to it. Looked like a way-too-deep pass at first.

[Joemailman]

Kuhn is a touchdown machine.

[Lurker64]

Kuhn is a touchdown machine.

Looks like it is likely Korey Hall vs. Quinn Johnson for the FB2 slot.

[Lurker64]

And the special teams looks like ass again.

[mission]

Hey, special teams didn't look awful!

there it did :evil:

[Lurker64]

Hey, special teams didn't look awful!

there it did :evil:

We need to practice kick coverage. Let's keep scoring so we can get lots of reps at it.

[red]

wow, that was ugly

M3 said before the game that he wanted to see a much better job done on ST tonight

i wonder if he'll ever be able to admit that the problem is the shitty ST coach

i mean, there was no one close to touching him until crosby tapeed him and bishop jumper on his back and then fell off

[Lurker64]

So, with Poppinga and Bishop in at LB, why does Seattle keep running the ball?

[Lurker64]

Also, what part of "zone coverage" requires you to play about 5 yards off your man?

[red]

picking on underwood, just like last week

[red]

i'm rooting for mike williams. he's a guy i loved in college, but got completely hosed by the NFL and NCAA

be nice to see him get back to form

now that was a weak defensive effort. there might really be reason for concern

[red]

look at that

there where six or seven guys right on top of jackson on that return. no packer blockers in between

its ridiculous

[Lurker64]

now that was a weak defensive effort. there might really be reason for concern

Relax. The Packers didn't suit up the following players who likely would have played on that drive if this were a real game and everybody was healthy: Charles Woodson, Clay Matthews, Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, and Atari Bigby. If you add in the fact that Al Harris may be ready to go for the beginning of the season, that's seven guys who we were down on defense.

You're just not going to look good playing the 3-4 with Brady Poppinga and Brandon Chillar as your OLBs. Brandon Underwood should not be starting for an NFL team.

[red]

protection is looking damn good

[imscott72]

ST's are a disappointment again.

[imscott72]

protection is looking damn good

Barring injury, I think this is going to be the best OL we've had in a long time.

[Lurker64]

Was that a flea flicker?

[red]

bad decision to throw there

and throw off your god damn front foot, not your back one. that clown plays for the queens now

[red]

Was that a flea flicker?

i didn't see one

finley is a beast. wow

[Lurker64]

finley is a beast. wow

Indeed.

[jpompo]

My god Finley is awesome

[Brando19]

This offense is scary good. No way we don't start out with the number one ranked offense...no freakin' way.

[Joemailman]

Bulaga looks really good at LG. That will be an interesting decision for MM to make.

[Lurker64]

You know, if Mason Crosby could kick it like that every time, our kick coverage would be way better.

[imscott72]

#88 is going to be an absolute STUD..

[red]

You know, if Mason Crosby could kick it like that every time, our kick coverage would be way better.

no doubt

and yet slocum is just to stupid to see that

[red]

omg bush gets in the game and fucks up right away. lee might have been the one called but bush could have been flagged too

the guy sucks, get him off the field

[imscott72]

Underwood is looking awful...Wow..

[red]

Underwood is looking awful...Wow..

i think it's safe to say none of our young cb's are ready to start yet. even tramon is looking lost

thank god al will be back soon, maybe even in a week

[red]

mike williams = great pickup for pete carroll

[Joemailman]

Tramon is okay, but Underwood is not ready to start. Playing too far off. He needs to trust his talent.

[TravisWilliams23]

Kind of bad when the best the announcer can come
up with is "Collins WAS IN THE AREA"!

[RashanGary]

Bulaga looks really good at LG. That will be an interesting decision for MM to make.

Colledge has so much more experience. It's tough for a rook, but Colledge is a backup caliber player and Bulaga looks like he's on track to be a really, really good one. His only problem looks to be experience. Tough decision, but there is a lot of reason for long term excitement with Bulaga.

[imscott72]

UGH...

[RashanGary]

Tramon is okay, but Underwood is not ready to start. Playing too far off. He needs to trust his talent.

He just doesn't know what he's doing. He'll have over the top help and he'll play like he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing.


I'm hoping we can trade a player at another position (TE, FB maybe) for a so/so dime corner. Underwood is just pathetic. I'd be ecstatic with a so/so guy who just knew his job.

[red]

yeah, bishop should start :roll:

[red]

Tramon is okay, but Underwood is not ready to start. Playing too far off. He needs to trust his talent.

He just doesn't know what he's doing. He'll have over the top help and he'll play like he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing.



I'm hoping we can trade a player at another position (TE, FB maybe) for a so/so dime corner. Underwood is just pathetic. I'd be ecstatic with a so/so guy who just knew his job.


i would love that, but TT and m3 had plenty of time in the off season to add so-so players at cb and lb and they decided to pass

[ThunderDan]

That is the worst roughing the passer call I have seen on Seattle.

[ThunderDan]

3 possesions and 3 scores.

[mission]

yeah, bishop should start :roll:

he's a total fraud

that kickoff return showed it in perfect light for even the most dense packer fan.

[PackerTimer]

yeah, bishop should start :roll:

I know Hawk isn't a superstar but I'll take him over Bishop any day.

[mission]

Tramon is okay, but Underwood is not ready to start. Playing too far off. He needs to trust his talent.

He just doesn't know what he's doing. He'll have over the top help and he'll play like he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing.



I'm hoping we can trade a player at another position (TE, FB maybe) for a so/so dime corner. Underwood is just pathetic. I'd be ecstatic with a so/so guy who just knew his job.


i would love that, but TT and m3 had plenty of time in the off season to add so-so players at cb and lb and they decided to pass

we have quite a few guys out man, let's relax on D

now these special teams -- somebody has to make a fucking tackle

[Lurker64]

Hey look, Raji with the pressure.

[ThunderDan]

yeah, bishop should start :roll:

he's a total fraud

that kickoff return showed it in perfect light for even the most dense packer fan.

The TD run by Seattle shows exactly why Hawk plays ILB. Francios who had his spot overcommited and the RB walks in from 11 yards out.

[RashanGary]

Tramon is okay, but Underwood is not ready to start. Playing too far off. He needs to trust his talent.

He just doesn't know what he's doing. He'll have over the top help and he'll play like he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing.



I'm hoping we can trade a player at another position (TE, FB maybe) for a so/so dime corner. Underwood is just pathetic. I'd be ecstatic with a so/so guy who just knew his job.


i would love that, but TT and m3 had plenty of time in the off season to add so-so players at cb and lb and they decided to pass

Young players. Give them a shot. Now we know. They have no clue.

[red]

omg, dude ran into his own guy and we couldn't tackle him

[Lurker64]

yeah, bishop should start :roll:

he's a total fraud

that kickoff return showed it in perfect light for even the most dense packer fan.

The TD run by Seattle shows exactly why Hawk plays ILB. Francios who had his spot overcommited and the RB walks in from 11 yards out.

Burnett was also out of position on the TD run.

[Lurker64]

So, what did Derrick Martin do to get ejected?

[red]

oh for fucks sake

[red]

So, what did Derrick Martin do to get ejected?

the seattle announcers thought that bush threw the punch but it was called on martin

[Lurker64]

So, what did Derrick Martin do to get ejected?

the seattle announcers thought that bush threw the punch but it was called on martin

Too bad. i'd be willing to give up 15 yards of field position every game to see Jarrett Bush ejected.

[RashanGary]

Well, a lot of these problems are nothing to worry about.


The CB issue is something that doesn't go away when we get healthy. Harris is no guarantee and injuries at some point are almost a guarantee.

The other issue that's hard to ignore was that dumb ass kick coverage. We had #1 ST's group in there and failed miserably.

[red]

Well, a lot of these problems are nothing to worry about.


The CB issue is something that doesn't go away when we get healthy. Harris is no guarantee and injuries at some point are almost a guarantee.

The other issue that's hard to ignore was that dumb ass kick coverage. We had #1 ST's group in there and failed miserably.

yeah, underwood is losing out big time in this game. doors might be wide open for shields to take a roster spot

[Lurker64]

Giacomini is really playing like shit.

[Lurker64]

Not a good punt, but at least the coverage was good. Shields really ought to be a gunner. Perhaps Martin being out will be a golden opportunity for Shields to play gunner.

[red]

SAM SHIELDS!!!!!!!

beautiful coverage by him, beat the double team and turned on the jets

[Lurker64]

Why does Seattle still have their #1 O in?

[red]

bishop missing another tackle

[RashanGary]

Giacomini should be cut. Bedard did a roster breakdown yesterday. He had:

Clifton
Bulaga
Wells
Sitton
Tauscher

Colledge
Spitz
Lang
Giacomini


I'd dump Gia and keep Dietrich. I don't love our backups, but I like them if it shakes out with Dietrich instead of Gia.

[red]

Why does Seattle still have their #1 O in?

its pete carroll, he thinks he's still at USC playing against midwest alabama technical school, he's going for 70

[red]

Giacomini should be cut. Bedard did a roster breakdown yesterday. He had:

Clifton
Bulaga
Wells
Sitton
Tauscher

Colledge
Spitz
Lang
Giacomini


I'd dump Gia and keep Dietrich. I don't love our backups, but I like them if it shakes out with Dietrich instead of Gia.

yeah, the dude is just massive, but he has no talent to go with the size. too bad

someone mentioned before that if you start college then your game day backups should be baluga, spitz and lang. lang can backup both tackles, and maybe right guard. spitz can play all three interior positions. and bulage can backup LG and LT

[ThunderDan]

The special teams looks like the Keystone Cops out there.

[Lurker64]

Warren Moon, who's doing the local broadcast for Seattle keeps butchering the names of Packers players. So far we've had Daryn Coolidge, Gordy Nelson, and Mike Flynn.

[BZnDallas]

is Warren Moon calling Matt Flynn, Mike??... i think i've heard him do it a couple of times... anybody confirm or deny?

[Lurker64]

someone mentioned before that if you start college then your game day backups should be baluga, spitz and lang. lang can backup both tackles, and maybe right guard. spitz can play all three interior positions. and bulage can backup LG and LT

Yeah, and having those three as your game-day backups means you can devote OL spots #9 (and #10 if we have one) to developmental guys. But Giacomini can be a developmental guy for only so long. He can run block, but he gets toasted by speed in pass blocking. It's actually quite embarassing.

But if I'm Marshall Newhouse or EDS, I don't feel bad about Giacomini sucking.

[BZnDallas]

Warren Moon, who's doing the local broadcast for Seattle keeps butchering the names of Packers players. So far we've had Daryn Coolidge, Gordy Nelson, and Mike Flynn.

good call Lurker!

[RashanGary]

Pretty good for Flynn, playing against the #1 defense with the 2's.

[red]

Pretty good for Flynn, playing against the #1 defense with the 2's.

he's looking pretty confident in a tiny little pocket

[Lurker64]

This is actually a really nice 2-minute drill from Flynn.

[BZnDallas]

thats the best back up in the league for ya!!!... :oops:

[Joemailman]

Warren Moon, who's doing the local broadcast for Seattle keeps butchering the names of Packers players. So far we've had Daryn Coolidge, Gordy Nelson, and Mike Flynn.

What about Bryan Beluga? He's having a whale of a game.

[red]

great job looking off the coverage

[Lurker64]

This is actually a really nice 2-minute drill from Flynn.

Until the runoff.

[RashanGary]

Get rid of Fucking Gia. That guy sucks.

[PackerTimer]

I will feel very comfortable with Matt Flynn taking snaps if anything should happen to Rodgers.

[Lurker64]

I will feel very comfortable with Matt Flynn taking snaps if anything should happen to Rodgers.

I, however, will not feel at all comfortable if Breno Giacomini is playing for any reason this year.

[red]

This is actually a really nice 2-minute drill from Flynn.

yeah it was, starting from his own 1

he needed to be a little quicker with the snap on the last play though

[Lurker64]

This is actually a really nice 2-minute drill from Flynn.

yeah it was, starting from his own 1

he needed to be a little quicker with the snap on the last play though

Actually, Giacomini needed to not jump on the last play. Flynn got the snap off and the ball spiked just fine, it's just that Breno was already moving forwards.

The dumbass apparently doesn't know that it's a spike play, he really doesn't even need to get out of his set.

Jordy should also know better than taking that inside though.

[red]

I will feel very comfortable with Matt Flynn taking snaps if anything should happen to Rodgers.

as long as it isn't for a long period of time. if rodgers goes down for the year then we're in trouble, but if its for a game or two, we might be ok

[PackerTimer]

I will feel very comfortable with Matt Flynn taking snaps if anything should happen to Rodgers.

I, however, will not feel at all comfortable if Breno Giacomini is playing for any reason this year.

That might lead to Flynn taking snaps.

[PackerTimer]

I will feel very comfortable with Matt Flynn taking snaps if anything should happen to Rodgers.

as long as it isn't for a long period of time. if rodgers goes down for the year then we're in trouble, but if its for a game or two, we might be ok

Agreed.

[RashanGary]

Bright spots:

Rodgers
Finley
Starting OL
Bulaga
Neal
Jackson
Flynn


Dull spots:

kick coverage unit
CB's
Giacomini
Francois

[Joemailman]

1st half winners:

Raji
Poppinga
Shields
Rodgers
Finley
Jackson
Flynn
Bulaga

1st half losers:

Underwood
Martin
Giacomini
Francois

[Lurker64]

Wouldn't be too hard on Francois. He's a UDFA rookie out there thrown into the fire with the starters against the #1 O. He's not going to look good doing that. He didn't look absolutely awful, and I personally chocked up more negative plays to Bishop than to Francois.

[RashanGary]

Flynn looked really good out there with the 2's against the 1's. For that matter, Brandon Jackson ran really well with that 2nd unit too.

[RashanGary]

I don't know if anyone else saw that article a few weeks back, but Brandon Jackson apparently made some changes in his diet and work ethic. I've never been a huge fan of his, but this could be a breakout year for him. He's a tough, squatty runner. We might be better off behind Ryan Grant than we think. Jackson just looks like a different guy this year.

[Joemailman]

Looks like the 2nd team OL got the message that MM wasn't happy last week. Of course, 4 of them are actually legitimate starters. Best situation on the OL we've seen in a while.

[red]

I don't know if anyone else saw that article a few weeks back, but Brandon Jackson apparently made some changes in his diet and work ethic. I've never been a huge fan of his, but this could be a breakout year for him. He's a tough, squatty runner. We might be better off behind Ryan Grant than we think. Jackson just looks like a different guy this year.

i haven't been a fan of his either, but he looks pretty solid tonight

[red]

another screw up on special teams

[RashanGary]

another screw up on special teams

It looks like whoever we get at punter will be fine. Crosby has been real solid too.

Outside of that, the coverage units are just scary. Returns - so/so.

[Lurker64]

Frank Zombo can do anything. The impossible is unknown to Frank Zombo.

[RashanGary]

Nice Zombo. He's making a case.

[red]

zombo has to make the team, he's the only OLB in preseason doing anything

[red]

another screw up on special teams

It looks like whoever we get at punter will be fine. Crosby has been real solid too.

Outside of that, the coverage units are just scary. Returns - so/so.

either punter looks like a nice improvement over last year

[red]

its not just me right? shields looks like the only competent CB in the game right now. he picked up bush's jock on that one play

[RashanGary]

Well, if we were about the worst last year at ST's. This year, it looks like just having a solid punter and Crosby bouncing back a little, we might move into the 20-25 range.

I guess that's a relative positive, you know, not being the worst.


I'm getting a little tired of the bad coverage units though. Why can't we cover kicks?

[red]

I'm getting a little tired of the bad coverage units though. Why can't we cover kicks?

it has to be the coaching, it just has to

that many different guys over multiple years all sucking

[pbmax]

And I am back. Porter had a huge gain if he had cut that one back.

[red]

baluga just got taught a lesson

actually it was barbre that got burned first. what a waste he is

[pbmax]

Dear Rich, Number 78 is barbre. Not Bulaga.

[pbmax]

I guess the Justin Harrelll panic can subside for an evening,.

[red]

I guess the Justin Harrelll panic can subside for an evening,.

until he gets hurt in the next few minutes

[red]

keystone cops or three stooges on that play?

[pbmax]

Francois had a nice zone coverage on that checkdown. Nice closing speed.

[pbmax]

Zombo and Harrel with late pressure.

[RashanGary]

Zombo is making a case. He looks tough against the run and has a nice pass rush.

[pbmax]

keystone cops or three stooges on that play?
No one stayed home and made a decent tackle. Same deal with Blackmon on the screen, had it dead to rights, panicked and dove at the guys feet.

[RashanGary]

I'm not a big fan of Burnett or Underwood. 90% Harris and 100% Bigby would make a big difference to our defense.

[Joemailman]

Gannon: "Injuries have been a real problem for Justin Harrell."

http://rlv.zcache.com/captain_obvious_tshirt-p235460860630951554t58d_210.jpg

[pbmax]

Sam Shields caught the last one. Can it be two in a row?

Nope. And the Sam Shields experiment will now be over this year.

[red]

quick fucking around with shields as a returner, he can't do it

let him focus on CB

[TravisWilliams23]

We'll get that fixed.

[pbmax]

quick fucking around with shields as a returner, he can't do it

let him focus on CB
Shaun Slocum looks tired. Perhaps he should consider a pre-season retirement like Jeff Jagodzinski.

Frankenbacker with the game changing play.

[Lurker64]

Sam Shields shouldn't be returning kicks.

He should, however, be covering kicks. Guy's a missile when he wants to go and tackle somebody.

[Joemailman]

Duct Tape Havner saves the day!

[red]

quick fucking around with shields as a returner, he can't do it

let him focus on CB
Shaun Slocum looks tired. Perhaps he should consider a pre-season retirement like Jeff Jagodzinski.

Frankenbacker with the game changing play.

i would be willing to chip in a few hundred bucks to some university fund if they were willing to hire slocum as their head coach

[RashanGary]

Shields might be able to sneak on the practice squad after this disasterous preseason on ST's.

He seems to have some corner promise, but he's not a returner.

[red]

Sam Shields shouldn't be returning kicks.

He should, however, be covering kicks. Guy's a missile when he wants to go and tackle somebody.

IMO

shields > bush at covering kicks

and

shields >>>>> bush at playing CB

if bush makes the team and shields doesn't, then someone's dog needs to be shot

[pbmax]

Teddy on the sidelines?!

[red]

Teddy on the sidelines?!

maybe he decided to had out pick slips during the game? i would be if i was him

[pbmax]

Teddy on the sidelines?!

maybe he decided to had out pick slips during the game? i would be if i was him
Only if its Slocum. Players should be given a ride back on the plane.

[red]

is graham harrell dressed? i'm surprised he isn't in there right now

[pbmax]

The flanker slant (run pass option maybe?) for flynn is a problem. He hesitates a beat and then the coverage recovers.

[pbmax]

is graham harrell dressed? i'm surprised he isn't in there right now
He was there next to Rodgers earlier.

[pbmax]

High throw or that was a first.

[red]

High throw or that was a first.

chery heard footsteps. bad throw though into quad coverage

[Lurker64]

Crosby made that one look easy.

[pbmax]

Mason good from 51 off left hash.

[red]

there you go mason

get him a bunch of those in preseason to get his confidence up

[imscott72]

Looks like Mason is straightened out..

[pbmax]

Here is a thought: Frankenbacker at Kick Returner.

[pbmax]

Why are there visiting fans in the Packer Tailgate Zone ads?

[red]

bush acting like he did something because the ball floated out of bounds with him beat by 5 yards

[pbmax]

Who is LT with Barbre back at LG? Is it Newhouse?

[TravisWilliams23]

Ryan sure would look good in green & gold again.

[pbmax]

Barbre, who can run block, got driven back on Kuhn's last run while at Guard. he just has nowhere to play.

[red]

wow, nice cut b-jack

[pbmax]

Two nice runs by Jackson. He looks a little quicker. At least compared to 3rd stringers. But on the first one, someone got driven back again.

[imscott72]

B Jax!!! Wow he's a BEAST tonight..

[Lurker64]

Warren Moon: "Graham Harrell is competing for that #3 QB job" ... against air.

[red]

Who is LT with Barbre back at LG? Is it Newhouse?

i wasn't paying attention, probably sitton because that makes the least sense

real nice couple of runs by jackson

[Lurker64]

Until Jackson came in on that drive, the Packers backs were Quinn Johnson and John Kuhn. That's 513 lbs of backs.

[Lurker64]

Jarrett Bush, please collect your pink slip after the game. Do not board the team plane.

[red]

great job bush you stupid mother fuck

[pbmax]

Bush makes anice hit and gets a flag.

And its a bad flag. he hit him with the shoulder.

[Lurker64]

Jarrett Bush, please collect your pink slip after the game. Do not board the team plane.

I can't think of anything original to say.

[red]

LOL

he better be playing his last game tonight

[pbmax]

Bush had a bad penalty, but the hit was legit.

[red]

Bush had a bad penalty, but the hit was legit.

then he stood over tate and taunted, thats a flag too

[red]

SAM SHIELDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imscott72]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

[pbmax]

Bush had a bad penalty, but the hit was legit.

then he stood over tate and taunted, thats a flag too
The packers are finally under 10 penalties for a game right now. I can't focus on the other, uncalled fouls they committed yet.

[pbmax]

Yep, Newhouse is LT. McDonald at RT.

[pbmax]

After McCarthy called that play by talking to Harrell on the field, even I knew that was going to be a sneak.

[red]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

he can actually catch the ball real well, which is the funny part. he was a WR for his first 3 years in college. he has great hands.

he just can't catch underhand at all

[red]

Bush had a bad penalty, but the hit was legit.

then he stood over tate and taunted, thats a flag too
The packers are finally under 10 penalties for a game right now. I can't focus on the other, uncalled fouls they committed yet.

lol

get the umpire clicker out

[pbmax]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

he can actually catch the ball real well, which is the funny part. he was a WR for his first 3 years in college. he has great hands.

he just can't catch underhand at all
I read he was moved to defense because he hands were very questionable.

[Joemailman]

Bush had a bad penalty, but the hit was legit.

Gotta like Bush's relentlessness. He gets called for a penalty that wasn't a penalty, so then on the next play he commits a real penalty. Never say die.

[red]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

he can actually catch the ball real well, which is the funny part. he was a WR for his first 3 years in college. he has great hands.

he just can't catch underhand at all
I read he was moved to defense because he hands were very questionable.

could be, i watched him in practice though and he was snagging everthing thrown his way

[pbmax]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

he can actually catch the ball real well, which is the funny part. he was a WR for his first 3 years in college. he has great hands.

he just can't catch underhand at all
I read he was moved to defense because he hands were very questionable.

could be, i watched him in practice though and he was snagging everthing thrown his way
Kicks are a different animal.

[gbgary]

don't know if it was mentioned in this thread during the game but warren moon sucks as an analyst!

[Pugger]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

[Pugger]

don't know if it was mentioned in this thread during the game but warren moon sucks as an analyst!

Are the Packer announcers this bad as far as being homers or do I not notice it? I would have liked to have been able to listen to Wayne and Larry but I'm kinda out of the broadcast area. :wink:

[Lurker64]

Brandon Jackson apparently came into the game in the fourth because Quinn Porter left the game with an ankle injury. That makes the RB position perilously thin. TT may have to swing for depth trades at a couple of positions this year.

[Joemailman]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

Yes he will. He's made plays as a CB, and as a gunner. He won't be returning kicks.

[mission]

Why does everyone keep saying Warren Moon? I'm almost positive it was Mack Strong who was messing all the names up. Was Warren Moon even there? lol



Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

He is NOT a returner and never was. I don't know why they keep pushing this kid. Use him to replace Bush -- he's a gunner and 5/6th cb. They're just hurting his confidence by having him out there doing shit he can't do.

[Joemailman]

Why does everyone keep saying Warren Moon? I'm almost positive it was Mack Strong who was messing all the names up. Was Warren Moon even there? lol



Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

He is NOT a returner and never was. I don't know why they keep pushing this kid. Use him to replace Bush -- he's a gunner and 5/6th cb. They're just hurting his confidence by having him out there doing shit he can't do.

Exactly right. Let him do what he does well. Returning punts is something only a few guys can do. Just because a guy can run a 4.2 40 doesn't mean he can return punts. Once he's made the team and has had a chance to relax a little bit, they may be able to revisit the punt return issue.

[red]

Why does everyone keep saying Warren Moon? I'm almost positive it was Mack Strong who was messing all the names up. Was Warren Moon even there? lol



Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

He is NOT a returner and never was. I don't know why they keep pushing this kid. Use him to replace Bush -- he's a gunner and 5/6th cb. They're just hurting his confidence by having him out there doing shit he can't do.

+1

absolutely right

[Pugger]

Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

Yes he will. He's made plays as a CB, and as a gunner. He won't be returning kicks.

Oh good. He's better than poor Jared Bush.

[falco]

Bush confuses the fuck out of me. Some plays he looks like a real gamer. Other plays he looks lost.

[MOBB DEEP]

Im slightly disenchanted with his cocky antics lately but aaron is the mother f'n TRUTH!

although im entertained by the afro-cultural ethos aspect of the expresssive individualsm of cats from The "U," for example, im more inclined to be impressed by the barry sanders types after they make a great play..i may be out-dated but humilty, like chivalry, isnt dead..

john ritchie says he's the MVP..WOW

[Pugger]

Why does everyone keep saying Warren Moon? I'm almost positive it was Mack Strong who was messing all the names up. Was Warren Moon even there? lol



Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

He is NOT a returner and never was. I don't know why they keep pushing this kid. Use him to replace Bush -- he's a gunner and 5/6th cb. They're just hurting his confidence by having him out there doing shit he can't do.

Gee, I'm pretty certain it was Moon in the booth. I hope NFL Network replays the game this week and if they do we'll know for sure.

[pbmax]

It was Moon and Menefee on the Seattle area broadcast. No idea about the NFL Network guys.

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Seahawks-vs-Packers/e79a7748-046d-4c23-9140-63526ecbc42b

[gbgary]

It was Moon and Menefee on the Seattle area broadcast. No idea about the NFL Network guys.

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Seahawks-vs-Packers/e79a7748-046d-4c23-9140-63526ecbc42b

i watched it on nfl network and it was kurt and warren. kurt's pretty good but warren was terrible. he could have done a little preparation/research. i know it was only a preseason game but some of the stuff he came out with was laughable.

[Brandon494]

Why does everyone keep saying Warren Moon? I'm almost positive it was Mack Strong who was messing all the names up. Was Warren Moon even there? lol



Despite not being able to catch, Shields is going to make this team..

Not if he muffs another punt/kickoff.

He is NOT a returner and never was. I don't know why they keep pushing this kid. Use him to replace Bush -- he's a gunner and 5/6th cb. They're just hurting his confidence by having him out there doing shit he can't do.

+1

absolutely right

He showed some return skills in college taking back a KR against Wisconsin. I do agree he has no business being a return man this season though, hopefully he will improve in the future.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He showed some return skills in college taking back a KR against Wisconsin. I do agree he has no business being a return man this season though, hopefully he will improve in the future.

Well, he didn't actually catch the kickoff. Somebody else did, and gave it to him on a reverse.

[retailguy]

He showed some return skills in college taking back a KR against Wisconsin. I do agree he has no business being a return man this season though, hopefully he will improve in the future.

Well, he didn't actually catch the kickoff. Somebody else did, and gave it to him on a reverse.

lol... :P

[Pugger]

The game is going to be re-aired at midnight Wednesday night on NFL Network.