Packer Cuts

[HarveyWallbangers]

Allen Barbre, who opened the 2009 season as the starting right tackle, reached an injury settlement and was released. Barbre was a fourth-round pick in the 2007 draft. He had been battling a back problem late in camp, but had not performed well before that.

[red]

good, he proved he was horrible

thats it?

[Patler]

good, he proved he was horrible

thats it?

Yup, the Packers are going with a 74 man roster! :lol:

[Fred's Slacks]

1 down, 22 to go. I hope each one isn't announced individually like this. :)

[falco]

1 down, 22 to go. I hope each one isn't announced individually like this. :)

Maybe next year the NFL will turn it into a primetime special and eliminate them like the kids on American idol.

[Patler]

Too bad about Barbre. I was intrigued when he was drafted. A 300 lb lineman who was a gunner on punts. Coaches and players commented on his athleticism that first year. Everything seemed good. Then the 2nd TC came around and there was nothing from him. He was given opportunity after opportunity and couldn't take advantage.

Time to move on.

[Fred's Slacks]

1 down, 22 to go. I hope each one isn't announced individually like this. :)

Maybe next year the NFL will turn it into a primetime special and eliminate them like the kids on American idol.

I sure hope they don't let it come down to a fan vote.

[packers11]

1 down, 22 to go. I hope each one isn't announced individually like this. :)

Maybe next year the NFL will turn it into a primetime special and eliminate them like the kids on American idol.

I sure hope they don't let it come down to a fan vote.

why? Bush would have been gone 3 years ago :lol:

[bobblehead]

Too bad about Barbre. I was intrigued when he was drafted. A 300 lb lineman who was a gunner on punts. Coaches and players commented on his athleticism that first year. Everything seemed good. Then the 2nd TC came around and there was nothing from him. He was given opportunity after opportunity and couldn't take advantage.

Time to move on.

yes, that pile of dung embarrassed me enough with my predictions supporting him. I actually believe he got WORSE as time went on.

[Fritz]

1 down, 22 to go. I hope each one isn't announced individually like this. :)

Maybe next year the NFL will turn it into a primetime special and eliminate them like the kids on American idol.

I like the way you think.

[Patler]

Too bad about Barbre. I was intrigued when he was drafted. A 300 lb lineman who was a gunner on punts. Coaches and players commented on his athleticism that first year. Everything seemed good. Then the 2nd TC came around and there was nothing from him. He was given opportunity after opportunity and couldn't take advantage.

Time to move on.

yes, that pile of dung embarrassed me enough with my predictions supporting him. I actually believe he got WORSE as time went on.

I was thinking the same thing, that he actually seemed to get worse as time went on. But, I probably shouldn't get started on the O-line coaches again! :lol:

[Fritz]

Wonder if Tedly is trying desperately to wrangle a 7th for Giaco, or if MM is passionately pleading with TT not to trade Spitz.

[Lurker64]

Bedard is reporting that NT Anthony Toribio has been released, but will likely end up on the PS if not claimed... which is odd, since I thought he wasn't PS eligible..

[Patler]

Wonder if Tedly is trying desperately to wrangle a 7th for Giaco, or if MM is passionately pleading with TT not to trade Spitz.

Everyone thought Wells would be traded last year, but he wasn't. I don't think Spitz will be this year, either.

The monkey wrench in the plans could be the health of Goode. If he might miss next week, the Packers have to keep Dietrich-Smith as a snapper, which then might make Spitz the odd-man-out and available for a trade.

[red]

Wonder if Tedly is trying desperately to wrangle a 7th for Giaco, or if MM is passionately pleading with TT not to trade Spitz.

thats what one of the packer news sites says. some team in the nfc is thinking about giving up a late(probably 7th) round pick for breno

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100903/PKR01/100903147/Packers-scope-out-deals-before-roster-deadline

[Lurker64]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

[Lurker64]

DE Ronald Talley also cut. I thought he had a serious chance at beating out Wynn and Wilson for a roster spot (more functional strength at this point) but he never really got a shot, I think due to injuries. Should probably see him again on the PS.

[Patler]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

[Fritz]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

Or five tight ends.

I try to decrease my consternation over keeping three fullbacks by thinking of Kuhn as a halfback.

[packers11]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

or 5 TE's :lol:

[vince]

Zombo is IN. Obi is OUT per Wilde

[Patler]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

or 5 TE's :lol:

or 3 FBs AND 5 TEs!

[red]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

which means we're keeping guys just for their special teams ability (hall) again :roll:

[Lurker64]

Zombo is IN. Obi is OUT per Wilde

Sure hope that Thompson is going to add another OLB somehow...

[red]

Zombo is IN. Obi is OUT per Wilde

well deserved IMO

[vince]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

which means we're keeping guys just for their special teams ability (hall) again :roll:
Lumpkin would do nothing but stand on the sidelines. Hall contributes.

[Pugger]

Egad, Fred's Slacks might be right, it looks like we're gonna get these names one at a time. :!:

[Lurker64]

Keeping only 2 RBs is a little worrisome, especially when both of them play ordinarily. Wouldn't be surprised to see Thompson grab somebody.

[vince]

Zombo is IN. Obi is OUT per Wilde

well deserved IMO
I agree. Obi didn't show squat when he needed to against KC.

[packers11]

Packers waived DT Anthony Toribio per Tom Silverstein

[Lurker64]

Egad, Fred's Slacks might be right, it looks like we're gonna get these names one at a time. :!:

The Packers are going to release the roster, all at once, at the last possible minute because they're required to do so. Right now we're finding out about the cuts from the players and their agents. Cyril Obiozor doesn't know anything about whether or not Jarrett Bush is getting cut, so it doesn't pay to ask him about it.

[Patler]

Egad, Fred's Slacks might be right, it looks like we're gonna get these names one at a time. :!:

MM meets personally with each player cut. Packers have diligently protected info until the player knows, so as the meeting is done the word gets out on a player.

Very respectful of the players, in my opinion.

[Pugger]

But I always feel bad for the guys that don't make the cut and I hope they find work elsewhere, as long as they don't come back to haunt us!

[red]

Keeping only 2 RBs is a little worrisome, especially when both of them play ordinarily. Wouldn't be surprised to see Thompson grab somebody.

kuhn showed he is more then capable of playing HB. then starks comes of the PUP week 6 and will be added to the team for sure

[Pugger]

Egad, Fred's Slacks might be right, it looks like we're gonna get these names one at a time. :!:

MM meets personally with each player cut. Packers have diligently protected info until the player knows, so as the meeting is done the word gets out on a player.

Very respectful of the players, in my opinion.

Packers = class. 8-)

[red]

Egad, Fred's Slacks might be right, it looks like we're gonna get these names one at a time. :!:

MM meets personally with each player cut. Packers have diligently protected info until the player knows, so as the meeting is done the word gets out on a player.

Very respectful of the players, in my opinion.

i also read today that TT likes to wait until the last possible minute so that other teams have a ton of players they have to sort through and that makes it easier to slip guys through to the PS

[Lurker64]

But I always feel bad for the guys that don't make the cut and I hope they find work elsewhere, as long as they don't come back to haunt us!

Well, as many as eight of the guys getting cut today will end up on the Packers practice squad. You get paid less, and you don't travel with the team, but to my eyes those guys are still Packers.

Still, today is a tough day for all sorts of guys around the league. Even the guys that make it. Mike Neal is assured to make the Packers and will feel good about that, but I'm sure he'll be a little bummed if C.J. Wilson (who was his camp roomate, and by all accounts they're pretty close) gets cut.

I'm sure that TT is acutely aware of this fact, since he's been around the bottom of a number of NFL rosters during his playing career.

[Pugger]

When does the entire list have to be announced? 3 eastern?

[vince]

I believe it's due to NFL offices by 5 central. It's typically announced sometime after that.

[imscott72]

When does the entire list have to be announced? 3 eastern?

5 pm CST

[vince]

List so far:

Barbre
Talley
Toribio
Lumpkin
Obiozor
Blackmon
Chery
Dillon

[imscott72]

Blackmon released..

[Pugger]

Ok, thnx guys! :)

[vince]

Thompson will address the media tomorrow at 2:00.

[red]

Blackmon released..

wow

i guess M3 and TT just figure that the ST are gonna suck so bad that they shouldn't waste a spot on a return man. just let jordy return it to the 23 everytime

[imscott72]

Blackmon released..

wow

i guess M3 and TT just figure that the ST are gonna suck so bad that they shouldn't waste a spot and a return man. just let jordy return it to the 23 everytime

Wonder if Chery sticks now..

[Pugger]

Blackmon released..

wow

i guess M3 and TT just figure that the ST are gonna suck so bad that they shouldn't waste a spot and a return man. just let jordy return it to the 23 everytime

Wow indeed. :shock: Maybe they'll try to grab somebody off the waiver wire later today? :?:

[red]

Blackmon released..

wow

i guess M3 and TT just figure that the ST are gonna suck so bad that they shouldn't waste a spot and a return man. just let jordy return it to the 23 everytime

Wonder if Chery sticks now..

maybe

a lot of people think he lost his spot because of the 2 fumbles on the opening kickoff the other night. but other then that i thought he looked good

[Lurker64]

Blackmon released..

Presumably with an injury settlement. Right now he just can't go. Wouldn't be terribly surprising if he gets healthy and the Packers bring him back.

[Fritz]

I suspected he might be in trouble because of the recurring knee troubles. It's going to be an issue, apparently. And because of the knee he also didn't get a real chance to make the transition to safety.

This could mean Peprah and Martin both make it.

Chery - interesting. And what about Crabtree? Will he survive? I hope they cut him but try to sign him to the practice squad.

[packers11]

They better not put Woodson back at PR...

[vince]

Chery and Dillon CUT

[Pugger]

So, how many more to go?

[Pugger]

I had a feeling after Chery's performance in KC his days were numbered...

[red]

Chery and Dillon CUT

damn. i was pulling for the kid

[Patler]

Starting to look like 5 TEs has a real possibility.

[red]

So, how many more to go?

like 14, i think

[red]

Starting to look like 5 TEs has a real possibility.

that would be beyond idiotic IMO, even worse then 3 fb's

[Pugger]

But one of the TE's is also a LB if 5 are kept...

[Patler]

Past years there have been a couple we don't hear about until the next day, for one reason or another.

[red]

But one of the TE's is also a LB...

still keeping 4 te's is a litte nuts

[Smidgeon]

But one of the TE's is also a LB if 5 are kept...

And apparently one of the FB's is also a RB if 3 are kept...

[Lurker64]

But one of the TE's is also a LB...

still keeping 4 te's is a litte nuts

What if they do the math where Finley is a WR and Havner is an LB? So it's really like keeping three!

[Patler]

But one of the TE's is also a LB if 5 are kept...

And apparently one of the FB's is also a RB if 3 are kept...

and all of the TEs line up as fullbacks now and then!

[imscott72]

Chery and Dillon CUT

damn. i was pulling for the kid

I was too. Oh well..Going to be real interesting to see what they do for KOR's..

[Lurker64]

But one of the TE's is also a LB if 5 are kept...

And apparently one of the FB's is also a RB if 3 are kept...

and all of the TEs line up as fullbacks now and then!

So, what you're telling me is that we're keeping eight fullbacks?

[Smidgeon]

So the total count for TEs/FBs is:

TE Finley = WR
TE Lee = TE
TE Havner = LB
TE Crabtree = TE
TE Quarless = TE/WR
FB Johnson = FB
FB Hall = FB
FB Kuhn = HB

So Green Bay math states:
5 TEs + 3 FBs = 2 TEs, 2 FBs, 1 LB, 1 HB, 1 WR, and 1 WR/TE

[imscott72]

But one of the TE's is also a LB if 5 are kept...

And apparently one of the FB's is also a RB if 3 are kept...

and all of the TEs line up as fullbacks now and then!

So, what you're telling me is that we're keeping eight fullbacks?

:lol: :lol:

[Smidgeon]

So Green Bay math states:
5 TEs + 3 FBs = 2 TEs, 2 FBs, 1 LB, 1 HB, 1 WR, and 1 WR/TE

I think we're short on TEs...

[vince]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

[Brando19]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

WTF??? That sucks whale penis.

[red]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

now that's a shocker

[imscott72]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

Disappointing if true..

[red]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

[Brando19]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

[Patler]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

Very surprising. I thought as a game day 45 he was extremely valuable, ST, TE, LB.

[imscott72]

So Crabtree sticks?

[vince]

Now what the hell am I going to do with my Favre jersey?

[imscott72]

[quote="vince"]Now what the hell am I going to do with my Favre jersey?[/quote

You still have one of those?? :lol:

[packers11]

GBP


All indications are that undrafted rookie OL Nick McDonald has made the 53-man roster. A lot of teams were interested in him based on his play in preseason games and the Packers apparently aren't willing to trade or cut him. Not sure what that means for Dietrich-Smith.

[packers11]

opps meant JSO* ^

[vince]

[quote=vince]Now what the hell am I going to do with my Favre jersey?[/quote

You still have one of those?? :lol:
Well I had converted it to a #41 Havner, but that's shot all to hell.

[falco]

GBP


All indications are that undrafted rookie OL Nick McDonald has made the 53-man roster. A lot of teams were interested in him based on his play in preseason games and the Packers apparently aren't willing to trade or cut him. Not sure what that means for Dietrich-Smith.

Wow, I don't recall seeing this guy play.

[falco]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

Yeah, but if we have guys on either side of the ball who can do the same things, he is expendable...

[Brando19]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

Yeah, but if we have guys on either side of the ball who can do the same things, he is expendable...

Havner > Crabtree and Quarless

[RashanGary]

GBP


All indications are that undrafted rookie OL Nick McDonald has made the 53-man roster. A lot of teams were interested in him based on his play in preseason games and the Packers apparently aren't willing to trade or cut him. Not sure what that means for Dietrich-Smith.

Wow, I don't recall seeing this guy play.

Which pretty much means he's playing well.

[vince]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

Yeah, but if we have guys on either side of the ball who can do the same things, he is expendable...

Havner > Crabtree and Quarless
Surprised by the move, but Havner is a terrible blocker and not nearly as talented as Quarless at TE.

[RashanGary]

I've had the feeling the Packers are in love with Crabtree. Havner seemed like a more likely cut to me.

McDonald is a shocker. Gotta hope we trade Spitz. He's the guy who might fetch us a nickle CB.

[red]

GBP


All indications are that undrafted rookie OL Nick McDonald has made the 53-man roster. A lot of teams were interested in him based on his play in preseason games and the Packers apparently aren't willing to trade or cut him. Not sure what that means for Dietrich-Smith.

WTH?

[imscott72]

..

[vince]

....

Ha. EDS to be cut if he can't be traded.

[Smidgeon]

......

[RashanGary]

How about Jason Spitz and Donald Lee for a CB?

[packers11]

JSO


Evan Dietrich-Smith said minutes ago that the Packers told him they will cut him if they can't find someone who wants him in a trade. McDonald and Jason Spitz will probably both make the team.

[falco]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

Yeah, but if we have guys on either side of the ball who can do the same things, he is expendable...

Havner > Crabtree and Quarless

Wow...not sure what you are watching. He's not a better blocker than Crabtree nor a better receiver than Quarless. Both guys have more upside than him.

[pbmax]

Bedard reporting that Kregg Lumpkin has been released.

Which means 3 FBs, I suspect.

which means we're keeping guys just for their special teams ability (hall) again :roll:
JSO had Hall as the starter today. Obvs., depends on the formation to open the game.

[Fritz]

Can someone help me understand who the hell Nick McDonald is? Rookie? Snd year guy? Guard/center? Big mauler, or what?

This is some crazy stuff. No Havner? Hmm. They must really, really like Crabtree.

But now who's going to coach special teams and perform marriage ceremonies?

[Bossman641]

Isn't McDonald the guy who was getting his ass handed to him in 1 on 1 drills?

[vince]

Alex Joseph - GONE

[Brando19]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?

I don't understand it at all. Havner has been a solid player for the Packers. He can intercept a pass or score a freakin TD as a TE...I'm pissed.

Yeah, but if we have guys on either side of the ball who can do the same things, he is expendable...

Havner > Crabtree and Quarless

Wow...not sure what you are watching. He's not a better blocker than Crabtree nor a better receiver than Quarless. Both guys have more upside than him.

He's a better receiver than Quarless....Quarless is inconsistent, but he is young.

[falco]

He's a better receiver than Quarless....Quarless is inconsistent, but he is young.

Hmm, not sure I would agree but I think it is debatable. Even if he (edit: Havner) is better now, Quarless obviously makes it on his upside.

[vince]

Can someone help me understand who the hell Nick McDonald is? Rookie? Snd year guy? Guard/center? Big mauler, or what?

This is some crazy stuff. No Havner? Hmm. They must really, really like Crabtree.

But now who's going to coach special teams and perform marriage ceremonies?
McDonald is a rookie undrafted FA who came in and immediately displayed really good footwork in OTA's. He's been at the bottom of the totem pole all camp, so it's a surprise from that perspective.

[Patler]

GBP


All indications are that undrafted rookie OL Nick McDonald has made the 53-man roster. A lot of teams were interested in him based on his play in preseason games and the Packers apparently aren't willing to trade or cut him. Not sure what that means for Dietrich-Smith.

WTH?

Story on him has been that he is raw but extremely powerful. Last couple weeks they have said that he has been coming on quickly, and had improved a lot after a so-so early camp.

[falco]

Can someone help me understand who the hell Nick McDonald is? Rookie? Snd year guy? Guard/center? Big mauler, or what?

This is some crazy stuff. No Havner? Hmm. They must really, really like Crabtree.

But now who's going to coach special teams and perform marriage ceremonies?
McDonald is a rookie undrafted FA who came in and immediately displayed really good footwork in OTA's. He's been at the bottom of the totem pole all camp, so it's a surprise from that perspective.

I consider myself someone who follows the pack pretty closely, but when I read that, I thought 'who??' :oops:

[packers11]

JSO


The Packers have turned down trade offers for C Jason Spitz and intend to keep him on the 53.

YES!!! i'm glad

[pbmax]

Blackmon released..

wow

i guess M3 and TT just figure that the ST are gonna suck so bad that they shouldn't waste a spot on a return man. just let jordy return it to the 23 everytime
If he is not healthy enough to return punts, his value is minimal.

[vince]

Can someone help me understand who the hell Nick McDonald is? Rookie? Snd year guy? Guard/center? Big mauler, or what?

This is some crazy stuff. No Havner? Hmm. They must really, really like Crabtree.

But now who's going to coach special teams and perform marriage ceremonies?
McDonald is a rookie undrafted FA who came in and immediately displayed really good footwork in OTA's. He's been at the bottom of the totem pole all camp, so it's a surprise from that perspective.

I consider myself someone who follows the pack pretty closely, but when I read that, I thought 'who??' :oops:
Bedard used to put up videos that had to be taken down within 24 hours due to NFL rules. He like to tape the OL drills early on, but if you didn't catch them right away, they were gone.

[imscott72]

Packers are keeping Spitz..Apparently they rejected trade offers..

[pbmax]

Silverstein reporting that Havner will be cut if they can't trade him.

WTF??? That sucks whale penis.
Not right after the marketing campaign got started. Woe to Franckenbacker. A metric ton of fun to watch.

M3 must love Crabtree.

[pbmax]

so you're telling me hall, the third FB and only really does anything on ST is more valuable then a guy that can play 37 different positions?
It was only a matter of time before he snapped the ball to his punting self.

[vince]

Breno CUT. Guess he wasn't in such high demand as McGinn reported.

[imscott72]

Wynn released..

[red]

Wynn released..

hmm

so are we just keeping 5 D-linemen? thats scary what harrell is a walking injury waiting to happen

or do we keep cj wilson who really hasn't done much of anything that i've seen

[vince]

Silverstein reporting that Wilson has made the roster, as has Justin Harrell if there were any questions at this point.

[Pugger]

Silverstein reporting that Wilson has made the roster.

Isn't Wilson a draft pick this year?

[pbmax]

JSO


The Packers have turned down trade offers for C Jason Spitz and intend to keep him on the 53.

YES!!! i'm glad
Weird. McGinn had scouts today saying he had lost strength since the surgery. However, EDS did not play well in the preseason and oddly enough,. I watched mostly second halves of the preseason.

[red]

cuts so far

Allen Barbre
Anthony Toribio
Ron Talley
Kregg Lumpkin
Will Blackmon
Jason Chery
Charles Dillon
Spencer Havner
Evan Dietrich-Smith if not traded
Alex Joseph
Jarius Wynn
Cyril Obiozor
Chris Campbell

toribio and talley have agreed to sign on for the practice team if they clear waivers

[Pugger]

12/13 more to go? :?:

[Smidgeon]

cuts so far

Allen Barbre OL
Anthony Toribio DL
Ron Talley DL
Kregg Lumpkin RB
Will Blackmon S/PR
Jason Chery WR/KR
Charles Dillon WR
Spencer Havner TE
Evan Dietrich-Smith if not traded OL
Alex Joseph LB
Jarius Wynn DL
Cyril Obiozor LB
Chris Campbell OL

toribio and talley have agreed to sign on for the practice team if they clear waivers

So we have...
3 OL cuts (4 with the unmentioned Breno)
3 DL cuts
2 LB cuts
2 WR cuts
1 S cut
1 TE cut
1 RB cut

[red]

OT Chris Campbell has been released. He may be a candidate for the practice squad.

[pbmax]

Does Blackmon's exit save another's job?

Woodson, Williams, Shields, Bush, Lee, Underwood, Clark

Collins, Burentt, Martin, Peprah, Levine


JSO today said Underwood's uncertainty made Lee and Bush safe. Blackmon gone at safety means neither Peprah nor Levine must be released, but they could go 6 CB and 4 safety.

[vince]

I'd be surprised if Levine is kept. There'd have to be someone on the street right now better than him. He hasn't been very good from what I've seen.

[pbmax]

Silverstein reporting that Wilson has made the roster.

Isn't Wilson a draft pick this year?

Yep. Seventh round.

[vince]

Simpkins CUT

[vince]

DB and Punter among a few others yet to come.

[pbmax]

The Packers' 10 OL as of right now: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Spitz, Lang, McDonald and Newhouse.
Call me crazy, but I think I like this group. A solid prospect/backup for every slot, in some cases three deep (RT, and both guards)

[Pugger]

Simpkins CUT

Was this the LB with a dredlocks?

[packers11]

The Packers' 10 OL as of right now: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Spitz, Lang, McDonald and Newhouse.
Call me crazy, but I think I like this group. A solid prospect/backup for every slot, in some cases three deep (RT, and both guards)

Agreed... This is the most depth i've seen on the O-line in awhile... Feels good...

[vince]

Simpkins CUT

Was this the LB with a dredlocks?Yup.

[Pugger]

The Packers' 10 OL as of right now: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Spitz, Lang, McDonald and Newhouse.
Call me crazy, but I think I like this group. A solid prospect/backup for every slot, in some cases three deep (RT, and both guards)

Agreed... This is the most depth i've seen on the O-line in awhile... Feels good...

This shows how badly they want to protect Rodgers!

[imscott72]

Sounds like Pat Lee might stick..

[red]

breno hasn't been cut yet, they're still trying to trade him according to bedard

but he will be cut if we can't

[vince]

So Breno's gone regardless. Bedard's covering for the misinformation passed on by his buddy.


It appears Packers have 2 QBs, 5 WRs, 10 OL, 4 TEs, 5 RBs, 6 DL, 8 LBs, 10 DBs, 3 STs. That's 53 total. Some cuts not confirmed but likely.

That speculates Graham Harrell, Williams, Clark, and Levine likely to be cut yet, plus a punter.

[gbgary]

The Packers' 10 OL as of right now: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Sitton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Spitz, Lang, McDonald and Newhouse.
Call me crazy, but I think I like this group. A solid prospect/backup for every slot, in some cases three deep (RT, and both guards)

Agreed... This is the most depth i've seen on the O-line in awhile... Feels good...

This shows how badly they want to protect Rodgers!

yup. the season hinges on him and the dbs. with the secondy as iffy as it is it looks like the o will have to get points on every possession. take the over. lol

[Pugger]

One cut that should be interesting is the punters.

[imscott72]

Sounds like Graham Harrell will be cut..

[Pugger]

Sounds like Graham Harrell will be cut..

This won't be a surprise. Do you think he'll get thru waivers and to the PS?

[Lurker64]

Sounds like Graham Harrell will be cut..

This won't be a surprise. Do you think he'll get thru waivers and to the PS?

Probably, he's not really that good. I mean, productive as hell in college, but doesn't have measurables NFL guys look for in QBs. Someone looking through the scrap heap for a QB will probably find something a lot more attractive.

I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if he makes the PS, and is later cut for another PS QB.

[pbmax]

JSOBlog reports Lee "has not been told he is cut". I wonder if he ended that statement by saying "yet". :lol:

[pbmax]

One cut that should be interesting is the punters.
Gotta be Masthay, don't you think?

[vince]

Packers Director of Public Relations Jeff Blumb just tweeted,

"Why doesn't @Greg_A_Bedard just tell people he's outside the players' parking lot with binoculars?"

[imscott72]

Sounds like Graham Harrell will be cut..

This won't be a surprise. Do you think he'll get thru waivers and to the PS?

I really don't think so..

[pbmax]

Sounds like Graham Harrell will be cut..

This won't be a surprise. Do you think he'll get thru waivers and to the PS?

I really don't think so..
He was in Canada last spring. He is as likely to make it through waivers as any other QB out there save those that are injured. But I think he could be a serviceable backup eventually, so I would love to see him re-signed to the PS.

[Pugger]

JSOBlog reports Lee "has not been told he is cut". I wonder if he ended that statement by saying "yet". :lol:

Which Lee? :wink: :lol:

[Pugger]

One cut that should be interesting is the punters.
Gotta be Masthay, don't you think?

Prolly.

[Smidgeon]

Packers Director of Public Relations Jeff Blumb just tweeted,

"Why doesn't @Greg_A_Bedard just tell people he's outside the players' parking lot with binoculars?"

That's frickin' hilarious if true.

[vince]

Packers Director of Public Relations Jeff Blumb just tweeted,

"Why doesn't @Greg_A_Bedard just tell people he's outside the players' parking lot with binoculars?"

That's frickin' hilarious if true.

It's true. Bedard retorted,

"@jeffblumb Coming from an organization that wouldn't confirm if the sun came up each morning."

[Pugger]

Packers Director of Public Relations Jeff Blumb just tweeted,

"Why doesn't @Greg_A_Bedard just tell people he's outside the players' parking lot with binoculars?"

That's frickin' hilarious if true.

It's true. Bedard retorted,

"@jeffblumb Coming from an organization that wouldn't confirm if the sun came up each morning."

:lol:

[Pugger]

We gotta be near the end of the cuts...

[Lurker64]

One cut that should be interesting is the punters.
Gotta be Masthay, don't you think?

I think, without question Masthay is ahead right now... but the Packers might value Bryant's quick get-off and ability to punt inside the 20 a lot and project Bryan to eventually be the better punter.

So, in other words, who the hell knows? I wouldn't be surprised by either outcome.

[Pugger]

If we are anxious, can you imagin if you were a player??

[vince]

Barring trade(s), 7 more players have to be cut. Maybe G. Harrell, West, P. Williams, Francois, Clark, Levine and one of the punters

That assumes Swain makes the roster.

[packers11]

JSO


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

[packers11]

^ what would be the total after that?

[pbmax]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.[/quote]

[falco]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.

Apparently by calling it a blog, they can get rid of any journalistic pretense.

[Pugger]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.[/quote]

Yes. Can you imagin if one of these guys makes it and sees this later on?

[Smidgeon]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.

Yes. Can you imagin if one of these guys makes it and sees this later on?

Especially when Bedard said it was "obvious"...

[Lurker64]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.[/quote]

Bedard really needs to get it through his head that there are not two standards: blog and major news organization. There are actually three standards: blog, blog of a major news organization, and major news organization.

You can't say some things on the JSO blog that Joe Random Packer Fan can say on his blog.

[mraynrand]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.

Bedard really needs to get it through his head that there are not two standards: blog and major news organization. There are actually three standards: blog, blog of a major news organization, and major news organization.

You can't say some things on the JSO blog that Joe Random Packer Fan can say on his blog.

Maybe he could get some blogging advice from Ochocinco.

[pbmax]

I am almost stunned to see this on the JSOBlog, even if it's a blog:


Haven't confirmed these cuts, but they're pretty obvious: WR Chastin West, P Chris Bryan, WR Patrick Williams, LB Maurice Simpkins, LB Robert Francois, CB D.J. Clark and S Anthony Levine.

If you don't know, then don't you at least need to state its pure speculation instead of obvious? Its like he thinks he is on a message board.

Apparently by calling it a blog, they can get rid of any journalistic pretense.
Traditional media members lose all perspective when it comes to the internet. Just ask Mike Wise of the Washington Post. He made up a Tweet (about Big Ben's suspension reduction) and was suspended a month. He was trying to make a point about the recklessness of the internet and Twitter, but he did it in such a way as to cast his own credibility into doubt. Brilliant move by him.

[Brandon494]

Kinda glad Franckenbacker got cut, was kinda tired of all the man love for such an average player.

[Pugger]

On another forum there are some fellas unhappy that Havner is gone.

[packers11]

in other news... The Vikings have signed T.J. Houshmandzadeh, a source tells FOX6 Sports in Milwaukee.
Source: FOX6 Sports

[Pugger]

The Vikes needed WRs. You have to wonder why he was cut earlier...

[Pugger]

Was Donald Lee cut? Did I miss that...? :?:

[Pugger]

Somebody on another forum reported the Vikes cut J. Walker! :shock:

[Pugger]

12 more minutes guys...

[Lurker64]

Apparently the punting competition goes to Masthay, but the Packers are interested in putting Bryan on the PS.

[Fosco33]

disappointed in blackmon - lots of potential but injury prone

liked havner - but deep @ te and lb - guess zombo has his shot

was hoping chery would stick - our return game is piss poor but he didn't pan out

[Pugger]

It will be interesting to see if anyone claims Bryan.

[Pugger]

Are we done now?

[Lurker64]

Are we done now?

We're done, but the Packers haven't announced the cuts/trades yet. We're past the point of no return, but not all information is available yet.

Amendment: teams can still trade. If teams have an asset they want to trade, and nobody else that they really want to fill that roster spot with, they can just sit on a guy.

[VermontPackFan]

Sorry but who is Frackenbacker? Ive seen his name mentioned a couple of times here but never knew who you were referring to? BradyP?

[Fosco33]

I still miss Jon Ryan... Frost, Kapinos, now Masthay... a kid who's never punted in 'green bay type weather'. :roll:

Our Special Teams look to be 'special' again this year. Return and coverage are average/weak, punter is untested, and our kicker is coming off a so-so year.

[Lurker64]

Sorry but who is Frackenbacker? Ive seen his name mentioned a couple of times here but never knew who you were referring to? BradyP?

Havner

[Lurker64]

I still miss Jon Ryan... Frost, Kapinos, now Masthay... a kid who's never punted in 'green bay type weather'. :roll:

Really... how many punters were we going to get who have punted in wintry weather? Unless you're getting an NFL vet (not many of those available) or a college kid from Big Ten country, you're SOL. It's not like Bryan punted in a lot of blizzards in Australia.

Masthay in Kentucky was notable for having a hell of a strong leg. When it comes to bad weather, that's a pretty good thing to have. I definitely feel better about him than Kapinos or Frost.

[pbmax]

Kinda glad Franckenbacker got cut, was kinda tired of all the man love for such an average player.
There is no room on Frankenbacker's Marketing team for that kind of talk. Get it together man!

[pbmax]

Well, Crabtree sticks instead of Frankenbacker. So some short passes for TD are out. But we could line up with a full house fullback backfield (Kuhn, Hall and Johnson) with Crabtree killing some poor CB. Like taking candy from a baby.

[RashanGary]

Nothing too shocking. I thought we'd be looking hard for a cornerback. I guess not.

[retailguy]

45 minutes after the deadline, still no official notifications.

Every other team has now released cuts. WHY?

What's to be gained at this point?

[bobblehead]

[quote=vince]Now what the hell am I going to do with my Favre jersey?[/quote

You still have one of those?? :lol:
Well I had converted it to a #41 Havner, but that's shot all to hell.

I'm not entirely sure how to pull this off, but making it a 47 would be !ZOMBO! You could add exclamations and other punctuation as needed for the conversion.

[retailguy]

Nothing too shocking. I thought we'd be looking hard for a cornerback. I guess not.

I just don't understand why you think it's so easy to find a nickel corner on cutdown day?

March? Maybe. Today? Damn hard. 5th or 6th corner? Perhaps. 3rd? No way dude.

We got who we got.

[RashanGary]

Give the players who were cut a chance to tell their families before they read it on the internet maybe.

[RashanGary]

I was thinking Spitz and a TE maybe for a CB would be possible. . .

[Lurker64]

45 minutes after the deadline, still no official notifications.

Every other team has now released cuts. WHY?

What's to be gained at this point?

Last year the Packers announced cuts at 6:02 PM Central time. I figure that we can expect about the same time today.

It's not like "here are our cuts" is something NFL teams get excited about, I mean a bunch of guys just lost their jobs. I imagine it's kind of a bummer for all involved.

[pbmax]

45 minutes after the deadline, still no official notifications.

Every other team has now released cuts. WHY?

What's to be gained at this point?
Not every team has made an official announcement. Only three of PFTs cut blurbs have come off the team websites. Everything else is off reporters Twitter accounts.

[retailguy]

45 minutes after the deadline, still no official notifications.

Every other team has now released cuts. WHY?

What's to be gained at this point?

Last year the Packers announced cuts at 6:02 PM Central time. I figure that we can expect about the same time today.

It's not like "here are our cuts" is something NFL teams get excited about, I mean a bunch of guys just lost their jobs. I imagine it's kind of a bummer for all involved.

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

[MJZiggy]

Give the players who were cut a chance to tell their families before they read it on the internet maybe.

Oh don't get all soft on us now!! :P

[RashanGary]

Jeff Blumb, the Packers media guy, had a twitter post about Bedard sitting outside Lambeau with binoculars. I think they're a little annoyed that the media is not respecting the players who lost their jobs.

That said, we all want to know. The media is just doing their jobs. I'm sitting here waiting for the final roster.

[falco]

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

Fixed. :lol:

[retailguy]

Jeff Blumb, the Packers media guy, had a twitter post about Bedard sitting outside Lambeau with binoculars. I think they're a little annoyed that the media is not respecting the players who lost their jobs.

That said, we all want to know. The media is just doing their jobs. I'm sitting here waiting for the final roster.

Justin, this kind of backs up my point. When the media has to sit outside Lambeau with binoculars that suggests that the team is maybe just a little "too closemouthed".

If you really care about the players, you could start telling them earlier. There are other ways than not confirming anything.

Blumb and Bedards twitter war backs that up too. When your local paper is saying that you "wouldn't confirm the sun coming up", that's more than friendly banter.

Are there reasons to shut up? Of course. Are there ALWAYS reasons to shut up? No.

[retailguy]

I was thinking Spitz and a TE maybe for a CB would be possible. . .

Not today. Too much other depth available. Spitz is OK, honestly I'd have traded him and kept EDS. Not much difference there.

I guess the offer wouldn't help us, or something?

[retailguy]

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

Fixed. :lol:

Well, if that's all you have to fix.. Hope you feel better now.

[falco]

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

Fixed. :lol:

Well, if that's all you have to fix.. Hope you feel better now.

It was funnier in theory.

[retailguy]

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

Fixed. :lol:

Well, if that's all you have to fix.. Hope you feel better now.

It was funnier in theory.

Hope so. It made you look a little silly to me.

I'm not pissed at all. I marvel at the lack of basic reasoning, but sure would be willing to listen if someone really knew. Lots of speculation, but again, nobody really understands the "why".

Could you imagine what it would be like to be the PR guy in Thompson's organization? Would you think you had any power to do anything whatsoever?

[falco]

Hope so. It made you look a little silly to me.

You already told me I'm an ignorant JACKASS. I'm not really concerned how I look to you.

[retailguy]

Hope so. It made you look a little silly to me.

You already told me I'm an ignorant JACKASS. I'm not really concerned how I look to you.

Well, I'm glad that's settled then. Thanks for letting me know.

[retailguy]

travisWSN @Greg_A_Bedard. So Pack has no KOR, no depth at CB, S, or OLB and cut perhaps most versatile player (Havner)? TT does some of oddest cuts.

Interesting tweet. I don't think the depth at OLB is that bad, or Safety either for that matter. Peprah has played well. Corner is streched at the moment but when you've got two starters in the secondary on PUP, that happens.

Ted couldn't do much today, unless he was really willing to give up draft choices. That's never likely.

I'm mixed on Havner. He was a fun guy to root for, but it makes me wonder what they see in Crabtree. He must really be kicking some ass.

[retailguy]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

[pbmax]

Packers Release 20 Players, Will Place Two On Injured Reserve

Posted 1 minute ago

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The Green Bay Packers released 20 players and will place two on injured reserve. The transactions were announced Saturday by Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson.

Released Saturday were punter Chris Bryan, tackle Chris Campbell, wide receiver Jason Chery, cornerback D.J. Clark, center/guard Evan Dietrich-Smith, wide receiver Charles Dillon, linebacker Robert Francois, tackle Breno Giacomini, quarterback Graham Harrell, tight end Spencer Havner, linebacker Alex Joseph, safety Anthony Levine, running back Kregg Lumpkin, linebacker Cyril Obiozor, linebacker Maurice Simpkins, defensive end Ronald Talley, nose tackle Anthony Toribio, wide receiver Chastin West, wide receiver Patrick Williams and defensive end Jarius Wynn.

Tackle/guard Allen Barbre and safety Will Blackmon will be placed on injured reserve.

[red]

travisWSN @Greg_A_Bedard. So Pack has no KOR, no depth at CB, S, or OLB and cut perhaps most versatile player (Havner)? TT does some of oddest cuts.

Interesting tweet. I don't think the depth at OLB is that bad, or Safety either for that matter. Peprah has played well. Corner is streched at the moment but when you've got two starters in the secondary on PUP, that happens.

Ted couldn't do much today, unless he was really willing to give up draft choices. That's never likely.

I'm mixed on Havner. He was a fun guy to root for, but it makes me wonder what they see in Crabtree. He must really be kicking some ass.

we're fine at safety and just as good at OLB as we were last year when we had one of the top defenses in the nfl

we're scary thin however at CB. if tramon or woodson get hurt we're toast

kor is worthless, get use to starting at about the 20 ever single time all year

[pbmax]

Just remember the roster has never stayed the same from Saturday to Monday. Likely to be a couple changes.

[Brandon494]

So every player we drafted and two undrafted rookies made the team?

[red]

Packers Release 20 Players, Will Place Two On Injured Reserve

Posted 1 minute ago

* a
* a

The Green Bay Packers released 20 players and will place two on injured reserve. The transactions were announced Saturday by Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson.

Released Saturday were punter Chris Bryan, tackle Chris Campbell, wide receiver Jason Chery, cornerback D.J. Clark, center/guard Evan Dietrich-Smith, wide receiver Charles Dillon, linebacker Robert Francois, tackle Breno Giacomini, quarterback Graham Harrell, tight end Spencer Havner, linebacker Alex Joseph, safety Anthony Levine, running back Kregg Lumpkin, linebacker Cyril Obiozor, linebacker Maurice Simpkins, defensive end Ronald Talley, nose tackle Anthony Toribio, wide receiver Chastin West, wide receiver Patrick Williams and defensive end Jarius Wynn.

Tackle/guard Allen Barbre and safety Will Blackmon will be placed on injured reserve.

they must have had to place barbre and blackmon on the IR while they agree to an injury settlement so they can be released.

either that or bebard should lose his job for being wrong about just about everything ever

[packerbacker1234]

Havner got cut? What the hell else does he need to do? He caught TD passes like a crazed man last year, plays an okay LB,a nd is great on special teams. How can we just let a guy like that go?

[red]

so no takers for breno and EDS. i would have been surprised if we were able to trade them for anything

[retailguy]

So every player we drafted and two undrafted rookies made the team?

Why does that surprise you? Ted gets rid of a few, but not many.

[red]

Havner got cut? What the hell else does he need to do? He caught TD passes like a crazed man last year, plays an okay LB,a nd is great on special teams. How can we just let a guy like that go?

:huh:

great question that most of us have been asking all day

[retailguy]

so no takers for breno and EDS. i would have been surprised if we were able to trade them for anything

Yeah. Me too. I liked EDS. Provided adequate depth. I want to know what we were offered but declined for Spitz. Not much difference between the two...

[VermontPackFan]

so no takers for breno and EDS. i would have been surprised if we were able to trade them for anything

Yeah. Me too. I liked EDS. Provided adequate depth. I want to know what we were offered but declined for Spitz. Not much difference between the two...


Glad you think so...maybe you should sign up for the next online how to be an NFL general manager course, maybe someone will listen.

[pbmax]

Come on. Let's stop commenting on each other's faults.

[falco]

Packers Release 20 Players, Will Place Two On Injured Reserve

Posted 1 minute ago

It's a shame we had to wait over 90 minutes past the deadline to learn who the packers cuts were. :cry:

[falco]

Interesting that Barbe and Blackmon went on IR. I wonder if either will hit TC with us next year.

[Lurker64]

Havner got cut? What the hell else does he need to do? He caught TD passes like a crazed man last year, plays an okay LB,a nd is great on special teams. How can we just let a guy like that go?

Havner was a guy who was pretty good at a whole lot of things. At some point, though, if you fill your roster with guys who are pretty good at a lot of things you end up with a roster that's just "pretty good". Eventually you have to go with guys who are or have a chance to be great at what they are asked to do.

Finley has a reasonable shot to be as good as it gets, Lee provides hardworking veteran depth, Quarless is every bit the athlete that Finley is (and is nearly as raw as Finley was), and Crabtree has the potential to be, down the line, a TE that blocks the living heck out of people. We don't have one of those, and we could use one of those.

If you predict down the line a year,Finley, Quarless, and Crabtree is a much better TE corps than Finley, Quarless, and Havner; since Finley doesn't block all that well, Quarless doesn't lcok all that well, and Havner doesn't block all that well. Lee is a guy you're looking to replace at this point in his career, but we weren't yet ready to replace him this year.

So what did Havner do wrong? Nothing. But sometimes you do everything you can, and work as hard as you can, and you still end up on the wrong end of the numbers game. Havner was never going to be a star, but he should land somewhere.

[digitaldean]

Jeff Blumb, the Packers media guy, had a twitter post about Bedard sitting outside Lambeau with binoculars. I think they're a little annoyed that the media is not respecting the players who lost their jobs.

That said, we all want to know. The media is just doing their jobs. I'm sitting here waiting for the final roster.

I remember growing up watching the local GB tv reporters interviewing players in the parking lot right after getting cut. I don't know, but getting in someone's face right after losing their job is a lot more traumatic than posting it online.

[digitaldean]

Just remember the roster has never stayed the same from Saturday to Monday. Likely to be a couple changes.

There always is some last second juggling of rosters. The onese I feel for most are those who survive the final cutdown and feel like they're about to play in their first NFL reg. season game only to be released from a waiver-wire pickup after final cutdowns.

[RashanGary]

Alright, enough of this waiting around. It's margarita and s'more night at my house. I'm out.

[Lurker64]

Jeff Blumb, the Packers media guy, had a twitter post about Bedard sitting outside Lambeau with binoculars. I think they're a little annoyed that the media is not respecting the players who lost their jobs.

That said, we all want to know. The media is just doing their jobs. I'm sitting here waiting for the final roster.

I remember growing up watching the local GB tv reporters interviewing players in the parking lot right after getting cut. I don't know, but getting in someone's face right after losing their job is a lot more traumatic than posting it online.

It would be nice if we all had something better to do and were just willing to sit around and wait to see who made the roster on Sunday. I mean, it's the first college football saturday of the year! There's football to watch!

It would be cleaner, and easier, and probably better if people didn't need to know everything RIGHT NOW, but that's not the world we live in. Ohwell.

[Brandon494]

It would be cleaner, and easier, and probably better if people didn't need to know everything RIGHT NOW, but that's not the world we live in. Oh well.

Your right about that, I don't know why some were freaking out about it.

[bobblehead]

45 minutes after the deadline, still no official notifications.

Every other team has now released cuts. WHY?

What's to be gained at this point?

Last year the Packers announced cuts at 6:02 PM Central time. I figure that we can expect about the same time today.

It's not like "here are our cuts" is something NFL teams get excited about, I mean a bunch of guys just lost their jobs. I imagine it's kind of a bummer for all involved.

So, 31 other teams don't care about their players but we do?

Not buying it. This is the type of unexplainable bs that'll drive you nuts.

Yep, and God only cared about Reggie White, the other thousand players in the league were SOL.

[bobblehead]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

When is the last time anyone recalls Waldo admitting he was wrong....although I didn't think Breno had PS eligibility either, but I can admit if I am wrong about that.

[retailguy]

so no takers for breno and EDS. i would have been surprised if we were able to trade them for anything

Yeah. Me too. I liked EDS. Provided adequate depth. I want to know what we were offered but declined for Spitz. Not much difference between the two...


Glad you think so...maybe you should sign up for the next online how to be an NFL general manager course, maybe someone will listen.

hope you feel better now. find it difficult to believe that you aren't curious. but whatever.

[mraynrand]

Jeff Blumb, the Packers media guy, had a twitter post about Bedard sitting outside Lambeau with binoculars. I think they're a little annoyed that the media is not respecting the players who lost their jobs.

That said, we all want to know. The media is just doing their jobs. I'm sitting here waiting for the final roster.

I remember growing up watching the local GB tv reporters interviewing players in the parking lot right after getting cut. I don't know, but getting in someone's face right after losing their job is a lot more traumatic than posting it online.

I got 'interviewed' in the parking lot by the janitor the last time I was fired. Turns out he just wanted to know why security dragged me out kicking and screaming.

[digitaldean]

VERY, VERY shocked at Havner mainly due to the versatility factor.

Former Packers cut:
Javon Walker, David Martin (fins TE), Jake Allen (WR Browns), Samkon Gado (Titans).

Not surprised TJ Houshmanzadeh got picked up by the Vikes, they need WR help BAD. Walker must not have had ANYTHING left in the tank to get cut.

Former Badgers cut: Donovan Raiola, Jason Pociask.

Consider ourselves fortunate vs. some teams. The Cards lose Warner to retirement. Leinart fritters away the starting job and they have to resort to Derek Anderson at QB (and Whisenhunt said the best QB in camp was actually BYU rookie Max Hall).

Happy for guys like Crabtree and Zombo. Street FAs busting their tail to make the roster are always a positive story.

[packerbacker1234]

Havner got cut? What the hell else does he need to do? He caught TD passes like a crazed man last year, plays an okay LB,a nd is great on special teams. How can we just let a guy like that go?

Havner was a guy who was pretty good at a whole lot of things. At some point, though, if you fill your roster with guys who are pretty good at a lot of things you end up with a roster that's just "pretty good". Eventually you have to go with guys who are or have a chance to be great at what they are asked to do.

Finley has a reasonable shot to be as good as it gets, Lee provides hardworking veteran depth, Quarless is every bit the athlete that Finley is (and is nearly as raw as Finley was), and Crabtree has the potential to be, down the line, a TE that blocks the living heck out of people. We don't have one of those, and we could use one of those.

If you predict down the line a year,Finley, Quarless, and Crabtree is a much better TE corps than Finley, Quarless, and Havner; since Finley doesn't block all that well, Quarless doesn't lcok all that well, and Havner doesn't block all that well. Lee is a guy you're looking to replace at this point in his career, but we weren't yet ready to replace him this year.

So what did Havner do wrong? Nothing. But sometimes you do everything you can, and work as hard as you can, and you still end up on the wrong end of the numbers game. Havner was never going to be a star, but he should land somewhere.

The entire issue with this logic is saying that havner's base value was as an average at best TE - ignoring the fact that he is a stellar special teams player (you know, the weakest point of our team) and is a solid backup LB, and you would be hard pressed to say guys like Poppinga have a much higher value at the position than havner.

Bottom line is, he is a specialty player who plays all facets of the game, adn originally made the roster due to stellar special teams play, something we still need. I am not saying you needed to "cut" a TE, but one of the extra LB's? One of the safteys being kept around just for special teams?

There were always other options to cut outside of the TE position to keep him around. I think you are merely undervaluing the type of player havner is. He wont ever be a better TE then the 4 ahead of him, he wont ever be a better LB then who is ahead of him, and there may be better special teams players in the league - but he was one of the best special teams guy we had, and ultimately, he should of made the team just for that value alone.

[digitaldean]

I got 'interviewed' in the parking lot by the janitor the last time I was fired. Turns out he just wanted to know why security dragged me out kicking and screaming.

:lol: :lol:

When I got "downsized" a little over a year ago (after 16 years of service), I tried talking to a couple of friends before leaving and had to be "escorted" out. Would have minded a mike in my face then to vent a little.....

[mraynrand]

VERY, VERY shocked at Havner mainly due to the versatility factor.

Former Packers cut:
Javon Walker, David Martin (fins TE), Jake Allen (WR Browns), Samkon Gado (Titans).

Don't quit your day job, Samkon!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/SamkonMD.jpg

[falco]

Havner got cut? What the hell else does he need to do? He caught TD passes like a crazed man last year, plays an okay LB,a nd is great on special teams. How can we just let a guy like that go?

Havner was a guy who was pretty good at a whole lot of things. At some point, though, if you fill your roster with guys who are pretty good at a lot of things you end up with a roster that's just "pretty good". Eventually you have to go with guys who are or have a chance to be great at what they are asked to do.

Finley has a reasonable shot to be as good as it gets, Lee provides hardworking veteran depth, Quarless is every bit the athlete that Finley is (and is nearly as raw as Finley was), and Crabtree has the potential to be, down the line, a TE that blocks the living heck out of people. We don't have one of those, and we could use one of those.

If you predict down the line a year,Finley, Quarless, and Crabtree is a much better TE corps than Finley, Quarless, and Havner; since Finley doesn't block all that well, Quarless doesn't lcok all that well, and Havner doesn't block all that well. Lee is a guy you're looking to replace at this point in his career, but we weren't yet ready to replace him this year.

So what did Havner do wrong? Nothing. But sometimes you do everything you can, and work as hard as you can, and you still end up on the wrong end of the numbers game. Havner was never going to be a star, but he should land somewhere.

The entire issue with this logic is saying that havner's base value was as an average at best TE - ignoring the fact that he is a stellar special teams player (you know, the weakest point of our team) and is a solid backup LB, and you would be hard pressed to say guys like Poppinga have a much higher value at the position than havner.

Bottom line is, he is a specialty player who plays all facets of the game, adn originally made the roster due to stellar special teams play, something we still need. I am not saying you needed to "cut" a TE, but one of the extra LB's? One of the safteys being kept around just for special teams?

There were always other options to cut outside of the TE position to keep him around. I think you are merely undervaluing the type of player havner is. He wont ever be a better TE then the 4 ahead of him, he wont ever be a better LB then who is ahead of him, and there may be better special teams players in the league - but he was one of the best special teams guy we had, and ultimately, he should of made the team just for that value alone.

I know Havner played on special teams, but why are you saying he was one of the best?

Does it matter that the guy he beat out (Crabtree presumably) started in all facets of special teams?

[pbmax]

One other team I saw kept two Running Backs, and that was San Diego. They are also relying on a FB or two to be able to run in case of injury.


Behind starter Ryan Mathews and third-down back Darren Sproles, the Bolts do have ball-carrying-capable fullbacks Jacob Hester and Mike Tolbert.

[RashanGary]

McDonald is the one guy who made it that I wasn't expecting at all.

[packers11]

to put the 4 TE's and 6 CB's into perspective...

pft... talking about the cowboys...


The team kept only two tight ends and three cornerbacks, indicating they aren't done making moves. :shock:

3 cbs?! lol

[get louder at lambeau]

to put the 4 TE's and 6 CB's into perspective...

pft... talking about the cowboys...


The team kept only two tight ends and three cornerbacks, indicating they aren't done making moves. :shock:

3 cbs?! lol

Kinda puts our CB problems in perspective, huh? We have 6 plus one on PUP.

[retailguy]

McDonald is the one guy who made it that I wasn't expecting at all.

Yup. Havner getting cut and McDonald making it were the big surprises.

Nobody had either.

[RashanGary]

I don't think our TC depth was quite as good as we thought. There wen't many good players cut, on the surface anyway. It seemed like it sort of shook it self out pretty well. CB is the big worry right now. Other than that, it's a nice roster I think.

[KYPack]

McDonald is the one guy who made it that I wasn't expecting at all.

Yup. Havner getting cut and McDonald making it were the big surprises.

Nobody had either.

I noticed that Havner had a pretty weak Pre-season at both LB & TE. Won't claim to have seen him a lot on ST, but you'd think Zombo whipped him there. Frankenbacker was a jack of all trades, but master of nada. I don't think his little scooter wreck in the off-season helped him much, either.

[mission]

How the hell does McDonald make the team??? Did I read that right on twitter?? What a joke.

[Lurker64]

McDonald is the one guy who made it that I wasn't expecting at all.

I think the logic here was that of the OL, the eight game day actives were going to be the five starters, Bulaga (backs up LT and LG), Lang (backs up RG and RT), and Spitz(backs up all three interior positions). So anybody beyond those eight wasn't going to be on the 45 game-day actives (OL usually aren't), so if you're going to keep more than 8 OL you lose nothing on keeping a purely developmental prospect or two. Apparently they liked McDonald's power and his footwork, so he got the pass as "the rawest guy with the most potential." Who knows if it'll work out, but I think that's the logic.

[get louder at lambeau]

How the hell does McDonald make the team??? Did I read that right on twitter?? What a joke.

More importantly, mission- Jarrett Bush made the roster. :bump: :alc: :wave: :bclap: :clap: :cow: :glug:

[bobblehead]

and is a solid backup LB, and you would be hard pressed to say guys like Poppinga have a much higher value at the position than havner.



I think you would be hard pressed to find any scout in the entire NFL that thinks Havner is equal to Popp as an LB

[Patler]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

When is the last time anyone recalls Waldo admitting he was wrong....although I didn't think Breno had PS eligibility either, but I can admit if I am wrong about that.

I think Giacomini does have practice squad eligibility. Eligible players include "free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s)."

Giacomini has been on the Active List for only 1 game, I believe.

[Brandon494]

So every player we drafted and two undrafted rookies made the team?

Actually make that three undrafted rookies

[Smidgeon]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

When is the last time anyone recalls Waldo admitting he was wrong....although I didn't think Breno had PS eligibility either, but I can admit if I am wrong about that.

What happened to Waldo during the season? I was reading his blog (and learned a thing or two here and there), then he stopped posting...

[vince]

Waiver claims and practice squad rosters are coming in....

Cyril Obiozor has been claimed by the Cardinals.

[vince]

Kregg Lumpkin claimed by the Bucs.

[vince]

Graham Harrell has cleared waivers and been signed to the Packers practice squad.

[vince]

Spencer Havner has been claimed by the Lions.

[packers11]

Spencer Havner has been claimed by the Lions.

Lions trying to get our offensive game-plan again? :wink:

[Guiness]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

Is Waldo56 the guy who used to post around here?

Where does he hang out these days, he seems to have totally deserted this board.

[SkinBasket]

Waldo is arguing with bedard on twitter regarding Breno's PS eligibility.

Jeff Blumb has apparently confirmed that Breno has eligibility but waldo keeps insisting it can't be true since it's the guys 3rd season.

Interesting. You'd think Blumb would know..

Is Waldo56 the guy who used to post around here?

Where does he hang out these days, he seems to have totally deserted this board.

http://waldo56.wordpress.com/

He has his own site with a working homepage and everything.