2010 Opener: The Official Packers -v- Eagles Game Thread

[mr_blonde]

Come on McCarthy ... let's play some pitch and catch here ... move the ball and use the clock ...

[retailguy]

jordy fucking nelson, go figure

needs more wheaties...

[red]

Grant looks like he's done for awhile. Now what? Good thing we have 80 fullbacks.. :lol:

well you'd think we have to pick up another RB from somewhere. grant seems to be done for awhile and the rookie isn't available until week 7. we ca't go with 1 HB and a fb for that long

[Fred's Slacks]

Grant looks like he's done for awhile. Now what? Good thing we have 80 fullbacks.. :lol:

They'll probably activate Lumpkin next week and cut McDonald.

They can ask tampa for him back.

[mission]

give it to kuhn!!

[retailguy]

Grant looks like he's done for awhile. Now what? Good thing we have 80 fullbacks.. :lol:

They'll probably activate Lumpkin next week and cut McDonald.

They can ask tampa for him back.

lol

[steve823]

Jackson's looking great. I like the way he is running - keeps moving his legs and fighting for every inch.

[red]

wow, first down

[retailguy]

how many timeouts do they get?

[VegasPackFan]

They really need to score, not just run off clock and punt.

[ThunderDan]

If PHI gets that TO back they didn't run the clock pre-snap.

[imscott72]

Grant looks like he's done for awhile. Now what? Good thing we have 80 fullbacks.. :lol:

They'll probably activate Lumpkin next week and cut McDonald.

Didn't Lumpkin get released and signed with another team?

[gbgary]

Come pn Pack!

[retailguy]

that wasn't good.

[mission]

what the fuck MM!!!

[red]

well that didn't work

[mr_blonde]

Gotta convert ...

[Fred's Slacks]

Grant looks like he's done for awhile. Now what? Good thing we have 80 fullbacks.. :lol:

They'll probably activate Lumpkin next week and cut McDonald.

Didn't Lumpkin get released and signed with another team?

Yes, he's in tampa.

[imscott72]

dammit

[red]

go for the FG lol

[mission]

i put this all on MM if we lose

[mr_blonde]

Rodgers looks bad today ... happy feet ...

[retailguy]

crap.

[red]

finley was wide open

[steve823]

MM has great playcalling.

[Guiness]

had to duck out for half an hour, little bit of scoring while I was gone!

-damn, would've been nice if Jennings had turned around a bit quicker. Pressure on Rodgers

[retailguy]

nice play by hall.

[imscott72]

ugly line drive kick there. Looks like the D has to save us today. Does this remind anybody of last season?

[ThunderDan]

Come on D. Let's get the stop.

[VegasPackFan]

The strength of this team is offense. The play calling has been terrible.

[red]

Rodgers looks bad today ... happy feet ...

thats what tends to happen what you get the shit kicked out of you in the first quarter of the season

[Guiness]

Vick is the QB now? What's up?

edit: Kolb is injured. Vick is still fast.

[gbgary]

Fin was wide open but wasn't seen.

[imscott72]

I fucking hate Vick.

[mr_blonde]

Rodgers had 188 yds passing entering the 4th qtr ... still has 188 yards ...

[ThunderDan]

Fuck.....

[retailguy]

wow.

[DannoMac21]

This is fucking ridiculous.

[VegasPackFan]

Game plan in the 4th qtr sucks. Why not let our offense do what they do so well?

[ThunderDan]

That's fine. Run clock run.

[gbgary]

Come on Packer D!!!!

[mmmdk]

Sorry but Vick is killing Packers :cry:

[retailguy]

jenkins.

[red]

The strength of this team is offense. The play calling has been terrible.

play calling is pathetic

we may have all the talent but M3 might be what holds us back

i never thought he was that great of a coach

[Jimx29]

Rodgers had 188 yds passing entering the 4th qtr ... still has 188 yards ...weather or mm at fault....I say mm

[imscott72]

CLAYMAKER!!! I love that man!!

[mr_blonde]

Why do you pass your best pass defender ... STUPID!!!!!

[Freak Out]

M3 went conservative just a bit to early.

[steve823]

Matthews is great. Imagine if we had another pass rusher of his caliber.

[red]

mathews is a god, we're in good shape with him and raji for the future

mathews hurt?

[retailguy]

clay looks gassed

[Guiness]

Four nice pressures in a row. Vick got away for yards twice, but Jenkins would've had him if not for the club, and CM gets him.

[gbgary]

This is fucking ridiculous.Vike has always done this.

[red]

This is fucking ridiculous.Vike has always done this.

to us

[VegasPackFan]

You KNOW they will run Vick on this 4t down play, maybe an option to pass.

[retailguy]

M3 went conservative just a bit to early.

that's typical.

[Freak Out]

Fluids!

[imscott72]

mathews is a god, we're in good shape with him and raji for the future

mathews hurt?

He's just winded..He's 100% every play..Wish we had 2 or 3 more of him..

[retailguy]

4th and one. ominous.

[Freak Out]

Just one more time Claymaker.

[wpony]

sheilds better watch out this play

[Fosco33]

4th down to win the game @ PHI. Need redemption for 4/26.

Come on D - step up and take this game home.

[mmmdk]

Easy call: Vick runs for 1st down.

[gbgary]

This is fucking ridiculous.Vike has always done this.

to usTo everyone really. Keep him in the pocket and use tight coverage. :) :)

[DannoMac21]

STUFFED GAMEEEEEE

[retailguy]

beautiful! clay!

[ThunderDan]

Game over!!!

[mission]

clay basically just won the game for us

[imscott72]

FUCK YEA!!!!!!!!! CLAYYYYYYYYYYY

[Fosco33]

1-0

[Jimx29]

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guiness]

Holy crap! That was incredible, CM should've been a top 5 pick!

edit: Jones did a great job too.

[retailguy]

big sigh. W is a W.

[gbgary]

MR. MATTHEWS

[mr_blonde]

YES!!!!!!!!!

I'm a whiney little bitch!!!!!

[wpony]

not a good call thank goodness

[Fosco33]

4th down to win the game @ PHI. Need redemption for 4/26.

Come on D - step up and take this game home.

Redemption - partially.

Clay - player of the game.

[imscott72]

clay basically just won the game for us

I don't know what else to say about Clay. He's just a God.

[mission]

Just one more time Claymaker.

very nice

[Brohm]

Too bad about the dropped pick in the first half :P Awesome day for Clay.

[Brandon494]

That was more Jones then Matthews to me

[Jimx29]

4th down to win the game @ PHI. Need redemption for 4/26.

Come on D - step up and take this game home.

Redemption - partially.

Clay - player of the game.of the week.......keep an eye out at the fedex page

[retailguy]

YES!!!!!!!!!

I'm a whiney little bitch!!!!!

yes. yes you are. But, today, that's OK.

[Joemailman]

big sigh. W is a W.

Huge road W.

That's the best game by an OLB I've seen in a long time.

[mmmdk]

Clay = the body bagger :cow:

[imscott72]

First win since 1962. Hard to believe. What a day. Lots of injuries to deal with. Good thing we have the Browns next week.

[retailguy]

big sigh. W is a W.

Huge road W.

That's the best game by an OLB I've seen in a long time.

he was unbelievable. I expected a slump. We surely aren't getting that.

[Fosco33]

nevermind

[gbgary]

WAY TO GO PACK!

[Joemailman]

First win since 1962. Hard to believe. What a day. Lots of injuries to deal with. Good thing we have the Browns next week.

Bills, but you're point is well taken.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Breaking the 48 year curse!!! Great win! Glad I bought a Clay jersey this year.

[mmmdk]

The CURSE has been broken

F@ck you Transylvania!!!

[red]

whew

great heart shown by mathews, barnett and jones on that last stop

great play

that was a hard fought victory

[steve823]

Clay Matthews 1 - 0
Bears 1- 0
Vikings 0 -1
Lions 0 -1

[retailguy]

First win since 1962. Hard to believe. What a day. Lots of injuries to deal with. Good thing we have the Browns next week.

Bills, but you're point is well taken.

yep. bills.

[retailguy]

vick is scary.

[red]

time to roll off some wins and put some distance between us and minnie

[ThunderDan]

Clay Matthews 1 - 0
Bears 1- 0
Vikings 0 -1
Lions 0 -1

Packers 1-0 (Thanks Clay)
Bears 1-0 (should be 0-1)
Vikings 0-1
Lions 0-1 (should be 1-0)

[Joemailman]

nm

[Guiness]

Easy call: Vick runs for 1st down.

That's a bad call on 4th and 1, as we saw.

Vick is a scrambler, runs best on rollouts or when no one is open and a hole opens up. 4th and 1 asks for a push the pile kind of guy.

[Fred's Slacks]

I've gotta give kudos to slocum and his units today. I've been very critical of the job he's done but today was excellent in every phase of ST.

[steve823]

Clay Matthews 1 - 0
Bears 1- 0
Vikings 0 -1
Lions 0 -1

Packers 1-0 (Thanks Clay)
Bears 1-0 (should be 0-1)
Vikings 0-1
Lions 0-1 (should be 1-0)

Yea Calvin Johnson had a TD that was bullshit. DOesn't really matter though the Bears wont get many W's

[retailguy]

I've gotta give kudos to slocum and his units today. I've been very critical of the job he's done but today was excellent in every phase of ST.

Well done today.

[ThunderDan]

I've gotta give kudos to slocum and his units today. I've been very critical of the job he's done but today was excellent in every phase of ST.

True, true.

[imscott72]

First win since 1962. Hard to believe. What a day. Lots of injuries to deal with. Good thing we have the Browns next week.

Bills, but you're point is well taken.

Whoops my bad..Yea Bills.. :D

[HarveyWallbangers]

Clay - player of the game.

NFL Defensive Player of the Week
:D

Good win! I thought they'd lose. Dicey, but I don't think they weren't quite prepared for Mike Vick. He's a matchup problems--even if you have time to prepare for him.

[Fosco33]

Man I'm pumped.

Played well enough to win. It's week 1 - so plenty of time to course correct.

Hope the injuries to Harrell and Grant aren't serious. Glad to see Jenkins back in there - but a one-handed Jenkins won't be a probowler. Hope Collins was just a minor tweak.

D played huge for all except mid-3rd to mid-4th. Came up with the big plays when it was needed.

Worried about 2ndry depth.

[mission]

as much as MM frustrates the shit out of me, im not going to complain about a first-in-50whatever-years win.

D showed heart when it mattered most.

[ThunderDan]

Clay Matthews 1 - 0
Bears 1- 0
Vikings 0 -1
Lions 0 -1

Packers 1-0 (Thanks Clay)
Bears 1-0 (should be 0-1)
Vikings 0-1
Lions 0-1 (should be 1-0)

Yea Calvin Johnson had a TD that was bullshit. DOesn't really matter though the Bears wont get many W's

Totally reminded me of the Packer TD wave off last year.

[red]

mathews is a real warrior

doesn't look like there'll be a sophomore slump from him, or raji for that matter

[imscott72]

Clay - player of the game.

NFL Defensive Player of the Week
:D

Good win! I thought they'd lose. Dicey, but I don't think they were quite prepared for Mike Vick. He's a matchup problems--even if you have time to prepare for him.

Oh no doubt..Easy call as of right now..

[mr_blonde]

Hopefully, Rodgers got his bad 2010 game out of the way today ... He didn't have a particular good game last year against the Bears to open the season ... but good enough like this year ...

[mmmdk]

Easy call: Vick runs for 1st down.

That's a bad call on 4th and 1, as we saw.

Vick is a scrambler, runs best on rollouts or when no one is open and a hole opens up. 4th and 1 asks for a push the pile kind of guy.

Yeah but we got CLAY

[mission]

maybe clay was better off *not* knocking kolb out of the game. at the time, i liked it. :lol:

[Guiness]

TV just flipped to Rams/Arizona. Who are those announcers? A lot of dead air, and just stating the obvious. Must be radio guys, just telling you what is happening. Play by play guy just said "throws it for a completion". Kind of redundant on TV!

[gbgary]

Glad vike decided to throw instead of run on that drive at the end when they got the fg.

[Jimx29]

TV just flipped to Rams/Arizona. Who are those announcers? A lot of dead air, and just stating the obvious. Must be radio guys, just telling you what is happening. Play by play guy just said "throws it for a completion". Kind of redundant on TV!still better than fauxes post game blabber

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hopefully, Rodgers got his bad 2010 game out of the way today ... He didn't have a particular good game last year against the Bears to open the season ... but good enough like this year ...

More than anything, I think the Eagles are going to be really good defensively. Two good DEs, two good DTs, Stewart Bradley is the next Brian Urlacher, Ernie Sims, Asante Samuel, Mikell is a solid safety. They'll surprise a lot of people, if Kolb plays better (or Vick plays like he did today). I think the Vikings play at Philly in December. I bet Favre plays poorly in that cold weather game, and this very well could be a game we gain on the Vikings in the end.

[gbgary]

TV just flipped to Rams/Arizona. Who are those announcers? A lot of dead air, and just stating the obvious. Must be radio guys, just telling you what is happening. Play by play guy just said "throws it for a completion". Kind of redundant on TV!That's ron pitts and someone.

[Lurker64]

I think the last time I was this relieved at the end of a game was the last time we beat Minny in a close one.

Phew. There's stuff to fix, but a W is a W, and the next few teams are most probably not as good as the Eagles.

[Guiness]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

[denverYooper]

TV just flipped to Rams/Arizona. Who are those announcers? A lot of dead air, and just stating the obvious. Must be radio guys, just telling you what is happening. Play by play guy just said "throws it for a completion". Kind of redundant on TV!That's ron pitts and someone.

John Lynch.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I kind of ripped him in the preseason, but you know who had a hell of a game? B.J. Raji. (Ryan Pickett also.) It's hard to find blame when Vick gets them back in the game by scrambling for 100 yards in a half. Our young guys weren't exploited in the passing game. Our biggest mistakes on defense were 1) knocking Kolb out of the game, and 2) getting too much pressure on Vick (and giving up the scrambles). Gotta find a way to keep him in the pocket.

[mr_blonde]

Hopefully, Rodgers got his bad 2010 game out of the way today ... He didn't have a particular good game last year against the Bears to open the season ... but good enough like this year ...

More than anything, I think the Eagles are going to be really good defensively. Two good DEs, two good DTs, Stewart Bradley is the next Brian Urlacher, Ernie Sims, Asante Samuel, Mikell is a solid safety. They'll surprise a lot of people, if Kolb plays better (or Vick plays like he did today). I think the Vikings play at Philly in December. I bet Favre plays poorly in that cold weather game, and this very well could be a game we gain on the Vikings in the end.

Philly is a playoff caliber team. This was a nice win. Until today, the Packers haven't won in Philly since 1962. They have a lot to work ahead of them this week but should handle Buffalo at home with ease .... at least I hope so ...

[ThunderDan]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

[Lurker64]

2) getting too much pressure on Vick (and giving up the scrambles). Gotta find a way to keep him in the pocket.

That's pretty darn near impossible with the way we were calling the defense. We were pretty much rushing n and dropping 11-n to prevent anything deep. You can't call it prevent because we certainly were rushing enough (and from enough wacky angles) to get pretty consistent pressure. Against most ordinary QBs that works beautifully, it's just that with Vick you either have to convince him to throw an errant ball, or you have to tackle him when you get pressure.

If the Eagles end up starting Vick a lot this year, they could be really dangerous because of the skill guys they have.

[ThunderDan]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

It would be called a fumble in the field of play. So he had to have possesion to make it a fumble which would end the play in the end zone and should be a TD.

Damn is this confusing!

[gbgary]

Anyone heard anything on harrell?

[Lurker64]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

It would be called a fumble in the field of play. So he had to have possesion to make it a fumble which would end the play in the end zone and should be a TD.

Damn is this confusing!

This is really a rule that the NFL needs to evaluate and clarify in the offseason. Because sure, the referees understand it (although I swear that I saw it called 3 different ways in the 2009 season), but laypeople even so called "experts" like professional analysts struggle to wrap their heads around it.

Hell, it might just be time o change the rule. I don't think "If you go down, and you touch with 2 feet, a knee, your face, etc. and you hang onto the ball while making that contact, that's a TD" would be all that bad a rule.

[denverYooper]

I kind of ripped him in the preseason, but you know who had a hell of a game? B.J. Raji. (Ryan Pickett also.) It's hard to find blame when Vick gets them back in the game by scrambling for 100 yards in a half. Our young guys weren't exploited in the passing game. Our biggest mistakes on defense were 1) knocking Kolb out of the game, and 2) getting too much pressure on Vick (and giving up the scrambles). Gotta find a way to keep him in the pocket.

He would've had a second sack if anyone other than Vick was back there.

[Joemailman]

Okay, so it's James Johnson and not Kregg Lumpkin on the PS. If Grant is going to be out, do they activate Johnson, or go with just Jackson and Kuhn at RB?

[gbpackfan]

What a great win. The D held at the end and A-Rod and the offense put up 27 points on A BAD DAY. A Rod will bounce back big, Im not worried ONE BIT about him. Lets not sell the Eagles short. They are a tough team with a great coach. Winning in Philly is so damn tough.

Oh, and I have always hated Vick. If that was Kolb (or most QBs in the league) the Pack wouldnt have had 8 sacks today. But oh well, they need to adjust better I suppose. Still a great win.

I cant wait to go to Lambeau on SUNDAY! We are going to ROLL THE BILLS!

[Fosco33]

Is Tom Pelissero still with gbpressgazette? Looked for him for a post game chat - it's now Kareem Copeland....

[red]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

its just a horrible rule. he had two feet, an ass and one hand down and clearly had control of the ball because he was palming it with his right hand

a rb diving into the endzone doesn't have to continue to hold onto the ball when he lands, he just has to break the plain

lions lost because of an overly complicated stupid rule

[Fosco33]

Is Tom Pelissero still with gbpressgazette? Looked for him for a post game chat - it's now Kareem Copeland....

Oh jebus... HE went to the Vikings, too. What's with MN sucking off our talent :P

[channtheman]

What a great win. The D held at the end and A-Rod and the offense put up 27 points on A BAD DAY. A Rod will bounce back big, Im not worried ONE BIT about him. Lets not sell the Eagles short. They are a tough team with a great coach. Winning in Philly is so damn tough.

Oh, and I have always hated Vick. If that was Kolb (or most QBs in the league) the Pack wouldnt have had 8 sacks today. But oh well, they need to adjust better I suppose. Still a great win.

I cant wait to go to Lambeau on SUNDAY! We are going to ROLL THE BILLS!

Absolutely. If we can win when Rodgers looks like crap we are in business. And this was in Philly, which is no easy win. Kolb getting hurt was the best thing for the Eagles though. Vick made some stupid choices thankfully. I think too many people are telling him to pass, when he should just run.

[retailguy]

Okay, so it's James Johnson and not Kregg Lumpkin on the PS. If Grant is going to be out, do they activate Johnson, or go with just Jackson and Kuhn at RB?

I think they hold firm if Grant is only out a week or two. Much longer than that, and I think they have to make a move.

[channtheman]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

its just a horrible rule. he had two feet, an ass and one hand down and clearly had control of the ball because he was palming it with his right hand

a rb diving into the endzone doesn't have to continue to hold onto the ball when he lands, he just has to break the plain

lions lost because of an overly complicated stupid rule

Was the play ruled correctly? Yes.

BUT, no one, and I mean NO ONE can tell me that plays like that are the reason that rule was put into place. The refs need to have a brain and the ability to see that that was clearly a TD.

[Lurker64]

Is Tom Pelissero still with gbpressgazette? Looked for him for a post game chat - it's now Kareem Copeland....

Oh jebus... HE went to the Vikings, too. What's with MN sucking off our talent :P

New Sports Talk radio station station started up in the Twin Cities, they were hiring away all sorts of talent from everybody in the Midwestern Sports media who weren't considered key assets by their former employers.

But, really, it's not as though "reporting on a team" makes you a fan of that team. I doubt Bedard is a fan of the Packers. Probably most sports reporters aren't fans of any particular team.

[Joemailman]

Link for post game show if out of state people want to listen
http://www.620wtmj.com/home/ondemand/44930432.html

[red]

OMG i'm in love with alex flannegan. where did she come from?

i'd blow it in her face

[Fosco33]

Is Tom Pelissero still with gbpressgazette? Looked for him for a post game chat - it's now Kareem Copeland....

Oh jebus... HE went to the Vikings, too. What's with MN sucking off our talent :P

New Sports Talk radio station station started up in the Twin Cities, they were hiring away all sorts of talent from everybody in the Midwestern Sports media who weren't considered key assets by their former employers.

But, really, it's not as though "reporting on a team" makes you a fan of that team. I doubt Bedard is a fan of the Packers. Probably most sports reporters aren't fans of any particular team.

Very true. Pelissero often said he wasn't a Packer fan. His chats were pretty cool.

[Fosco33]

OMG i'm in love with alex flannegan. where did she come from?

i'd blow it in her face


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kVBIKsx0ZqQ/SxKjDGEV1MI/AAAAAAAAB4I/NB0gBBUNpoo/s1600/20091203600Alex-Flanagan.jpg

[gbgary]

OMG i'm in love with alex flannegan. where did she come from?

i'd blow it in her faceThat would be a waste. LOL

[denverYooper]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per Demovski

[Joemailman]

OMG i'm in love with alex flannegan. where did she come from?

i'd blow it in her face

She's a regular on NFL Network. She's no Lindsay Soto, but who is?

[Lurker64]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per Demovski

Good thing nobody claimed Jarius Wynn. If it's an ACL, this is probably the end of the line for Justin. Too bad, seemed like an affable enough guy... just had shit luck.

[gbgary]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

[HowardRoark]

Link for post game show if out of state people want to listen
http://www.620wtmj.com/home/ondemand/44930432.html

thanks

[vince]

Who'da thunk that the Packers would win when Rodgers plays poorly, the defense comes up with big stops, the special teams excel, but the team would run the ball pretty well.

That's a good win on the road against a tough team - particularly when the team knows it can play A LOT better.

Players have to take it one game at a time, but we fans can look ahead. Bills, Bears, Lions, Skins and Dolphins coming up to improve from here...

[HowardRoark]

OMG i'm in love with alex flannegan. where did she come from?

i'd blow it in her face


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kVBIKsx0ZqQ/SxKjDGEV1MI/AAAAAAAAB4I/NB0gBBUNpoo/s1600/20091203600Alex-Flanagan.jpg

thanks

[channtheman]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

[Fosco33]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per Demovski

Good thing nobody claimed Jarius Wynn. If it's an ACL, this is probably the end of the line for Justin. Too bad, seemed like an affable enough guy... just had shit luck.

Crazy bad luck. Who'd he kill in a past life?

Harrell played ok, too...

[HarveyWallbangers]

New Sports Talk radio station station started up in the Twin Cities, they were hiring away all sorts of talent from everybody in the Midwestern Sports media who weren't considered key assets by their former employers.

But, really, it's not as though "reporting on a team" makes you a fan of that team. I doubt Bedard is a fan of the Packers. Probably most sports reporters aren't fans of any particular team.

Pelissero actually started out here in the Twin Cities for KFAN. He moved to the GBPG and has now moved back to the Twin cities.

[HowardRoark]

New Sports Talk radio station station started up in the Twin Cities, they were hiring away all sorts of talent from everybody in the Midwestern Sports media who weren't considered key assets by their former employers.

But, really, it's not as though "reporting on a team" makes you a fan of that team. I doubt Bedard is a fan of the Packers. Probably most sports reporters aren't fans of any particular team.

Pelissero actually started out here in the Twin Cities for KFAN. He moved to the GBPG and has now moved back to the Twin cities.

What is the new station up here?

[RashanGary]

Punting - CHECK
Kickoffs - CHECK
Field goal unit - CHECK
Kick Return unit - Check
Punt return - Not much opportunity but Williams is solid so CHECK

Penalties - CHECK


At least last years issues appear to be cleared up.

[Lurker64]

New Sports Talk radio station station started up in the Twin Cities, they were hiring away all sorts of talent from everybody in the Midwestern Sports media who weren't considered key assets by their former employers.

But, really, it's not as though "reporting on a team" makes you a fan of that team. I doubt Bedard is a fan of the Packers. Probably most sports reporters aren't fans of any particular team.

Pelissero actually started out here in the Twin Cities for KFAN. He moved to the GBPG and has now moved back to the Twin cities.

What is the new station up here?

1500 AM in the Twin Cities switched formats from Conservative Talk to Sports Talk, they've had the Twins games for the past couple years and they just partnered with ESPN a few months ago.

[Lurker64]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

Other teams make fun of you if you don't trot out 11 guys on field goal attempts.

[channtheman]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

Other teams make fun of you if you don't trot out 11 guys on field goal attempts.

Harrel is the only other player we could have used on the field goal team?

Who'd we use after he got hurt? No one?

[gbgary]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

Other teams make fun of you if you don't trot out 11 guys on field goal attempts.LOL

[Lurker64]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

Other teams make fun of you if you don't trot out 11 guys on field goal attempts.

Harrel is the only other player we could have used on the field goal team?

Who'd we use after he got hurt? No one?

Well, generally field goal attempts are staffed with pretty much all the big men who aren't starters. Since Harrell was a backup, he qualified. If one of the backup big guys goes out, you need to put one of the non-backup big guys in. It would have been a hell of a lot worse if the Packers had lost Ryan Pickett on a FG than if they lost Justin Harrell.

[Guiness]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

It would be called a fumble in the field of play. So he had to have possesion to make it a fumble which would end the play in the end zone and should be a TD.

Damn is this confusing!

um, but the ground can't cause a fumble. The ball popped out when he brought it down to the ground.

[gbgary]

NOW IF THE SKINS CAN KILL THE BOYS ALL WILL BE RIGHT FOR A WEEK!!

[Lurker64]

NOW IF THE SKINS CAN KILL THE BOYS ALL WILL BE RIGHT FOR A WEEK!!

Think of how the mood will be in Philly on Monday if McNabb lights up the Dallas secondary.

[Fosco33]

Any news from GB on Grant. M3 mentioned Harrell has a 'serious injury' - i.e., ACL.

Jenkins did break his hand - so he'll play w/ a cast/club the whole year.

[gbgary]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

Other teams make fun of you if you don't trot out 11 guys on field goal attempts.

Harrel is the only other player we could have used on the field goal team?

Who'd we use after he got hurt? No one?

Well, generally field goal attempts are staffed with pretty much all the big men who aren't starters. Since Harrell was a backup, he qualified. If one of the backup big guys goes out, you need to put one of the non-backup big guys in. It would have been a hell of a lot worse if the Packers had lost Ryan Pickett on a FG than if they lost Justin Harrell.Makes sense.

[Lurker64]

Any news from GB on Grant.

The early report is that he's wearing a boot, it's an ankle sprain, and it's a bad enough ankle sprain that he wouldn't have been able to go back in if they needed him. Beyond that? It's kind of impossible to tell until tomorrow at the earliest.

[Fosco33]

Any news from GB on Grant. M3 mentioned Harrell has a 'serious injury' - i.e., ACL.

Jenkins did break his hand - so he'll play w/ a cast/club the whole year.

As I googled 'Ryan Grant' for an update, google shows it as the 2nd most popular search in the past hour - status of 'volcanic'.

Man - we sure love our football.

[gbgary]

NOW IF THE SKINS CAN KILL THE BOYS ALL WILL BE RIGHT FOR A WEEK!!

Think of how the mood will be in Philly on Monday if McNabb lights up the Dallas secondary.I hear ya but i think those fans were done wire him.

[Joemailman]

Any news from GB on Grant. M3 mentioned Harrell has a 'serious injury' - i.e., ACL.

Jenkins did break his hand - so he'll play w/ a cast/club the whole year.

Won't know about Grant until tomorrow, but he did say he could not have come back in the game if Jackson had been injured.

[Fosco33]

Any news from GB on Grant.

The early report is that he's wearing a boot, it's an ankle sprain, and it's a bad enough ankle sprain that he wouldn't have been able to go back in if they needed him. Beyond that? It's kind of impossible to tell until tomorrow at the earliest.

Yeah - that's what I feared. Some were saying knee - but the replay showed the ankle being bent pretty severely. Ankle sprains are a bitch. Hope it's well enough that tape can hold up. If anything, sit him in the easy stretch of the schedule and save him for the crazy mid season games.

[bobblehead]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

It would be called a fumble in the field of play. So he had to have possesion to make it a fumble which would end the play in the end zone and should be a TD.

Damn is this confusing!

um, but the ground can't cause a fumble. The ball popped out when he brought it down to the ground.

My real issue with the call/rule is that Calvin could have maintained possession for another 10 minutes if he knew he had to. In his mind he had 6...he rolled over and put the ball on the ground to stand up and that is when it rolled out. If he had chosen he could have rolled a few more times holding the ball no problem.

He figured the play was over and he was getting back up.....ONLY reason he lost it is because he was getting back up to celebrate.

[gbpackfan]

Calvin Johnson flat out caught that ball. Two feet down, butt down and then the ball comes out of his hand as he was standing back up. Pathetic fucking rule. Talk about over analysising the shit out of something. Brutal, brutal rule. TD all the way.

[Joemailman]

Touchdown!!! Receiver: "Hey ref. Is it over? Can I get up now?"

[digitaldean]

Sorry for not posting during the game PR's, I was designated grillmaster at my inlaws Packer cookout. :lol:

All I have to say is, no Clay Matthews, no W for the Packers today. He was a flat out beast today. Rodgers had a mediocre game (very lucky Samuel dropped that slant route pass - that was a sure pick 6), but the D and ironically, the special teams carried the day. Only special teams bone up was Mason's kickoff OB.

Grades:
Defense: B
Offense: B-/C+
Special Teams: B+

We got a huge break when Vick decided to throw the ball instead of running in a sure TD near the end of the game. The Iggles were gamers, but they were there own worst enemy (poor special teams, bad penalties and that slow developing QB draw on 4th and 1).

A W vs. an NFC opponent is a valuable commodity. Style points aren't a necessity, thankfully. It'll be interesting to see how Grant gets through this injury this week.

[retailguy]

Touchdown!!! Receiver: "Hey ref. Is it over? Can I get up now?"

lmao.

[mraynrand]

Any news from GB on Grant.

The early report is that he's wearing a boot, it's an ankle sprain, and it's a bad enough ankle sprain that he wouldn't have been able to go back in if they needed him. Beyond that? It's kind of impossible to tell until tomorrow at the earliest.

Yeah - that's what I feared. Some were saying knee - but the replay showed the ankle being bent pretty severely. Ankle sprains are a bitch. Hope it's well enough that tape can hold up. If anything, sit him in the easy stretch of the schedule and save him for the crazy mid season games.

Grant will be very lucky if it's not a break. That's the exact same injury mechanism that took out Levens and a number of other backs over the years. (Hawk took someone a couple years ago with the same kind of tackle)

[Little Whiskey]

the Injury to Weaver was nasty.

i watched the bear/lions and packers/eagle. i can't believe the amount of injuries in those two games

[gbgary]

Calvin Johnson flat out caught that ball. Two feet down, butt down and then the ball comes out of his hand as he was standing back up. Pathetic fucking rule. Talk about over analysising the shit out of something. Brutal, brutal rule. TD all the way.

i remember this bit our asses last season. don't remember who (jennings or fin i'm thinking) or when. it was a td last year and it was a td today. bad rule. no different than a runner breaking the plain and losing the ball.

[retailguy]

the Injury to Weaver was nasty.

i watched the bear/lions and packers/eagle. i can't believe the amount of injuries in those two games

it was almost surreal watching them all go down.

[Little Whiskey]

Calvin Johnson flat out caught that ball. Two feet down, butt down and then the ball comes out of his hand as he was standing back up. Pathetic fucking rule. Talk about over analysising the shit out of something. Brutal, brutal rule. TD all the way.

i remember this bit our asses last season. don't remember who (jennings or fin i'm thinking) or when. it was a td last year and it was a td today. bad rule. no different the a runner breaking the plain and losing the ball.

its as bad as the tuck rule.

[gbgary]

michael vick's still got it. he's just as slippery as he's ever been. hope we don't see him ever again.

[Little Whiskey]

michael vick's still got it. he's just as slippery as he's ever been. hope we don't see him ever again.

i was having flashbacks to the Atl playoff game.

[mraynrand]

That was freaky with Vick. I wonder how much time the Packers spent preparing for him?

[Joemailman]

With Neal inactive for the game, Harrell plays more than intended, and goes down. The Packers are forced to play extended time with 2 linemen. The run defense suffers.

You are evil!!! :smack:

[gbgary]

With Neal inactive for the game, Harrell plays more than intended, and goes down. The Packers are forced to play extended time with 2 linemen. The run defense suffers.

You are evil!!! :smack:

be careful. he may make some prediction about you going to work in the morning. :shock:

[retailguy]

With Neal inactive for the game, Harrell plays more than intended, and goes down. The Packers are forced to play extended time with 2 linemen. The run defense suffers.

You are evil!!! :smack:

be careful. he may make some prediction about you going to work in the morning. :shock:

what like falling out of the mail truck or something? :shock:

[pbmax]

Packers will lose by two, 30-28, to start the season 0-1, throwing the Packers nation into a frenzy of despair. The defeat largely will be the result of poor ST play, primarily on the kickoff team, but field position will be lost in punting do to the net results of allowing longer returns while generating no long returns. Shields, Burnett and Williams will be victimized in the passing game as the Packers will fail to generate pressure on the QB. Offensively, the Packers will struggle to protect Rodgers, allowing 2 sacks. Finley and Grant will be non-factors. Colledge will begin his annual Jekyl/Hyde performance, leading to his replacement in the starting lineup by game #6.

With Neal inactive for the game, Harrell plays more than intended, and goes down. The Packers are forced to play extended time with 2 linemen. The run defense suffers.
Lotto numbers next Patler? :D

[pbmax]

That was freaky with Vick. I wonder how much time the Packers spent preparing for him?
M3 said on the radio with McCarren after the game that they devoted sub packages to Kolb and only the Wildcat with Vick. Thought given that, they did OK. That might be too positive. But I will say this. Capers started with blitzing him and it was killing the Packers as the first wave would miss and then he would escape to an undermanned secondary.

He went to a four person rush and forced him to throw more, which seemed a better option until he flat got hot. Capers then started to blitz on certain down and distance. I like that he adjusted on the fly and kept up pressure. He did however, on 3 and 17 go with a three person rush and Vick escaped easily and had no one near him for the first 10 yards. I think if you send 3 or blitz heavy, you must play zone to keep people's eyes on him. A four man rush you might be able to man up, turn and run with people. But you probably need a spy even then.

He should get player of the week consideration for what he was able to do, considering he spent the preseason running.

[mission]

Packers will lose by two, 30-28, to start the season 0-1, throwing the Packers nation into a frenzy of despair. The defeat largely will be the result of poor ST play, primarily on the kickoff team, but field position will be lost in punting do to the net results of allowing longer returns while generating no long returns. Shields, Burnett and Williams will be victimized in the passing game as the Packers will fail to generate pressure on the QB. Offensively, the Packers will struggle to protect Rodgers, allowing 2 sacks. Finley and Grant will be non-factors. Colledge will begin his annual Jekyl/Hyde performance, leading to his replacement in the starting lineup by game #6.

With Neal inactive for the game, Harrell plays more than intended, and goes down. The Packers are forced to play extended time with 2 linemen. The run defense suffers.
Lotto numbers next Patler? :D

I wouldn't use any numbers based on all of that. I'd get 2 outta 8! :wink:

[ThunderDan]

Just saw the Calvin Johnson play.

Two feet down and both hands on the ball...is the play not over at that point???

Apparently not! :lol:

It would be called a fumble in the field of play. So he had to have possesion to make it a fumble which would end the play in the end zone and should be a TD.

Damn is this confusing!

um, but the ground can't cause a fumble. The ball popped out when he brought it down to the ground.

But apparently the ground can negate a TD.

This whole thing is a joke!

Costas on NBC said the rule was correctly inforced per the NFL head of officals. No, I really don't think it was.

[gbgary]

costas said it well. "the call was correct, but it wasn't right."

[ThunderDan]

costas said it well. "the call was correct, but it wasn't right."

Amen!

[pbmax]

Well, the M3 Hire Bobby April crowd (McGinn and a ton of people who had previously never heard of Bobby April) should be quite for a few weeks now.

[pbmax]

I kind of ripped him in the preseason, but you know who had a hell of a game? B.J. Raji. (Ryan Pickett also.) It's hard to find blame when Vick gets them back in the game by scrambling for 100 yards in a half. Our young guys weren't exploited in the passing game. Our biggest mistakes on defense were 1) knocking Kolb out of the game, and 2) getting too much pressure on Vick (and giving up the scrambles). Gotta find a way to keep him in the pocket.
Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

[Guiness]

Harrell thinks he tore his ACL, as per DemovskiDammit...on a field goal.

Okay, why for ANY reason is your most fragile fucking player on the field for a field goal?

When your most fragile player is a 3-4DE, there's a problem. What would you have them save him for?

[Little Whiskey]

When your most fragile player is a 3-4DE, there's a problem. What would you have them save him for?

piss boy.

[gbgary]

Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

one bad play really for the td. he was with him until that second move when he was turned around. a learning experience...i hope.

[pbmax]

Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

one bad play really for the td. he was with him until that second move when he was turned around. a learning experience...i hope.
He had one other where he got turned around in the flat area by the WR for an easy completion.

[Guiness]

Any news from GB on Grant. M3 mentioned Harrell has a 'serious injury' - i.e., ACL.

Jenkins did break his hand - so he'll play w/ a cast/club the whole year.

As I googled 'Ryan Grant' for an update, google shows it as the 2nd most popular search in the past hour - status of 'volcanic'.

Man - we sure love our football.

Right now, 3 of the top 20 searches on google are Packers - Grant, Mathews and Hawk. 12 are NFL related!

[gbgary]

hawk! i don't i heard his name once today. :shock:

[Joemailman]

MM PC Transcript:http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Mike-McCarthy-Post-Game-Press-Conf-Transcript---Sept-12/3c7ecd74-a1cc-48d7-ab07-458e8b08b1e7


(Opening comments and general thoughts on the game)
“We have a lot of respect for Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles, and I know there was some historical significance about winning here [for the first time] since 1962, but I can’t say enough about the program Andy has in place here. I thought it was a very gutty performance on both sides of the ball, I think they had five players leave the game and we had a number of guys go down. With the injury to Justin Harrell, we came into this game primarily with the sub defense and there was a lot of back and forth. I thought it was a very gutty performance on both sides of the field and we feel very fortunate to come out of here with a win. This is a tough place to play and it’s a tough football team to play against.

(How extensively did the defense prepare for quarterback Michael Vick during the week?)
“Well, we prepared for Michael Vick more in the Wildcat-type packages, and I thought Michael did an excellent job. He adds a whole different dimension to the game, particularly with his running skills and his ability to extend plays. That’s where I go back to our defense, we stressed the whole training camp playing adversity defense and to end the game on fourth-and-one with a quarterback in the backfield who has a number of different options, that’s a big play by our defense, but Michael Vick is still a very dynamic player.”

(Did you think the offense was in sync tonight?)
“Well, I’m the offensive coach so it’s never in-sync enough. I thought we had some spurts where we played the way we feel that we can play, I wasn’t particularly happy with the third-down production during the fourth quarter when we needed to extended drives, but I thought Brandon Jackson came in and did a very good job particularly with the run-blocking unit there in the second half with his opportunities. But we have to extend series in the football game, especially at that particular time; our defense was on the field way too much in the second half, we’re short defensive linemen and we’re playing against a very mobile quarterback; that was a tough, gutty performance by our football team. I thought our special teams played excellent, and that was a major emphasis coming into the game because we have a lot of respect for Bobby April and the job he does over there on special teams. We feel very fortunate and pleased that we came away with a win, but we also want to grow as a football team and there is plenty of film to look at and to correct and get ready for Buffalo.”

(What were the injuries coming out of the game?)
Ryan Grant had an ankle sprain, and he did not return, so I can’t tell you exactly how long he’ll be out. Also, Cullen Jenkins had a broken hand, he did return with a cast. Justin Harrell, it looked like he had a significant knee injury and he did not return. And Nick Collins had the bruised ribs there in the fourth quarter and he did return.

(Did Ryan make it seem like he could potentially come back into the game?)
They told me he was down, I didn’t speak to him. The medical staff makes those decisions, whether a player is up or down, and that’s why they take their helmets away.

(Was it difficult to decide what defense to run on the 4-and-1 because Vick can do so many different things?)
That’s the tough call, especially when he goes to the shotgun. Are they still going to run a traditional quarterback sneak? He also has the ability to bounce the ball to the edge and now you’re short-yardage defense takes on a little different characteristic. We went with a sub-defense, a sneak defense, and it was just an excellent job of the front line holding their gaps and not letting him penetrate and it was obviously the biggest play in the game.

(What were your impressions of Kevin Kolb?)
Kevin I thought was a little bit like us on offense. He probably didn’t get into the rhythm that he probably would’ve liked and it looked like he took a pretty big hit there. But he’s got a lot of excellent football in front of him; I think he’s going to be everything that they think he is. He can make all of the throws and I thought that when he did throw, the ball came out with velocity and so forth. This was really the first time I’ve had to see him play in live action, but I think he has a bright future.

(Was Mason kicking the ball well enough in warm-ups that you felt comfortable giving him that 56-yard attempt?)
No doubt. We talked about it; we get a progress report in every pregame and he kicked the ball extremely well in pregame, so I would’ve probably extended him out to 59 – particularly in that situation – and he nailed it. He hit the one earlier in the first half very well also, so I thought he kicked the ball very well. He had the one kickoff he pulled to the left, but I thought Mason performed very well today.

(Question?)
Well it’s a credit to Clay, it’s a credit to the coaching staff and it’s really a credit to the medical staff for getting him ready to go. We were a little nervous coming into this game with the number of repetitions that our defensive unit did not have with everybody in there. I’ll tell you, I thought it was a very gutty performance on defense, especially the second half, and Clay was a big part of that. Kevin [Greene] did a good job of working the linebackers in, and I thought [Frank] Zombo and [Brady] Poppinga did a nice job with their opportunities.

(How difficult is it to adjust what you do defensively when the style of play between quarterbacks is such a contrast?)
Well there’s nothing you can do about it, it’s not like you can change it, and I thought our coaches did a very good job of rotating the players and trying to keep them fresh. Once again, I thought this was a performance that we can definitely build off of, because they were extending plays and Michael can definitely do that to a defense.

(What did you think of the performance of your special teams today?)
I thought Tim [Masthay] did a good job punting, except he probably wishes he had the last one back, the one he kicked down the middle of the field, because that was not the plan. But I thought he did a good job of putting the ball on the sideline and I thought the coverage units were excellent. I can’t say enough of the commitment Shawn Slocum and Chad Morton have made with the changes on special teams and it’s gratifying to go out there on Week 1 and have the production we had in the return game. I thought Jordy Nelson did a very good job of running the track and trusting the blockers and he had some creases to run through today, so I was very pleased with our special teams performance.

(Does it concern you that might now be down to just one true running back going into next week?)
Well I look at like we have five running backs, but we have three that primarily do the running. It’s the NFL; injuries are part of your journey and we had a number of guys go down today. Tomorrow we’ll see where we are and we’ll get ready for Buffalo.

(When do you think Brandon Jackson really elevated his level of play to where it is now?)
I think Brandon really showed his ability to perform at this level at the end of last year. I thought he really came into his own during the second half of last season. He had the injury in training camp last year, but I thought he had a great spring and training camp. I think he’s a complete player, first and second down, he’s outstanding in pass protection and he did a nice job on that checkdown in the 23 protection out there in the flat. He’s done a good job with the ball control, breaking tackles because he is so strong from the waist down, he has tremendous leg strength and he has the ability to make guys miss. I think Brandon has been playing at this level now since last year.

(What did you see on the interceptions Aaron Rodgers threw in the game?)
I’m sure Aaron will answer those questions for himself, but we’ll look at the film. He had the one interception that slipped away. I didn’t really have a good view of that first one, the one down the middle, but it was tipped. The second one, the ball just slips out of his hand, but he had Donald Driver open there on the behind route. I’m there were some decisions he wishes he had back, we tried to get into a rhythm with the quick passing game early and some seven-man protection throws, and we did not get off to a good start. We were able to generate 27 points, but it’s definitely a performance we will build off of and improve on.

(Was Mike Neal close to playing today?)
I didn’t ask how close, it’s a yes or no by this point. A lot of times when you get into muscle injuries, you’ll probably do more damage working a guy out – same thing with hamstrings, it was the same decision with Desmond Bishop – to take him out there and work him out and now you’re putting him in a position to fatigue it even more over the course of a game.

(Did you think they would take more shots with DeSean Jackson and were you please your defense’s ability to limit his effectiveness?)
I can’t really comment on it, I’m not sure exactly sure how they wanted to go after us. From an offensive standpoint, we had a lot of two-shell, we had him covered up a lot when he was in the one-slot. He had the chance to get a number of opportunities underneath, but I thought we did a very good job of containing him today.

(What did you think was the biggest difference in the offense in the second half?)
The negative plays hurt us; there were three negative plays in that first half that really affected us with our point production, but I felt that the ability to run the ball in the second half gave us more balance because I thought we were pass-heavy in that first half which can happen sometimes with the way we operate at the line of scrimmage.

[Joemailman]

hawk! i don't i heard his name once today. :shock:

Once Harrell went out, he hardly played because they were in nickel for the most part.

I think he did have good pressure on one sack that went to someone else.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

Really? He gave up the touchdown. (Not sure why he had one on one coverage against a decent receiver with no safety help.) Other than that, I think I remember him giving up one catch and make a few tackles down field.

[pbmax]

Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

Really? He gave up the touchdown. (Not sure why he had one on one coverage against a decent receiver with no safety help.) Other than that, I think I remember him giving up one catch and make a few tackles down field.
I remember 3 plays where he was completed on. Two he played poor technique and was faked out (including TD). The other completion was a good throw and catch. I did not see him tested in first half. But I did miss the 1st Q and was only following on the radio.

[Joemailman]

Packers couldn't have asked for much more from the opening weekend. They beat a key conference rival. Vikings lost. Cowboys lost. Life is good.

[Guiness]

hawk! i don't i heard his name once today. :shock:

Once Harrell went out, he hardly played because they were in nickel for the most part.

I think he did have good pressure on one sack that went to someone else.

Actually, Hawk didn't play a single snap on D. They didn't line up in the 'base' package all day.

[pbmax]

Shields got abused in the 2nd half and Burnett was solid. But there were only a few Eagle attempts deep into the middle. One of which, Celek's catch, they did complete.

Pass rush was better, but Capers was blitzing quite a bit until Vick started running through it.

Really? He gave up the touchdown. (Not sure why he had one on one coverage against a decent receiver with no safety help.) Other than that, I think I remember him giving up one catch and make a few tackles down field.
I remember 3 plays where he was completed on. Two he played poor technique and was faked out (including TD). The other completion was a good throw and catch. I did not see him tested in first half. But I did miss the 1st Q and was only following on the radio.
Well, McGinn isn't buying my argument. He gives Shields a pass with a mention of the TD as the only bad play.

He knocks Burnett for not getting to Celek on the long completion over the middle and for missing a tackle on the screen.

[denverYooper]

So despite past admonitions of impropriety, are we going to need to fire up the gameday thread early again? There are important considerations of keeping everything in order--Feng-shui in cyberspace--to keep the victory train rolling. The fate of the Packers may depend on it!

(Cue up the funkiest waw-waw-inest version of Stevie Wonder's "Superstitious" and ponder whether or not the universe is considering our own PackerRats contribution To the Great Retribution for The Down And Distance That Shall Not Be Named)

notreallysuperstitiousjustriffin

[swede]

So despite past admonitions of impropriety, are we going to need to fire up the gameday thread early again? There are important considerations of keeping everything in order--Feng-shui in cyberspace--to keep the victory train rolling. The fate of the Packers may depend on it!

(Cue up the funkiest waw-waw-inest version of Stevie Wonder's "Superstitious" and ponder whether or not the universe is considering our own PackerRats contribution To the Great Retribution for The Down And Distance That Shall Not Be Named)

notreallysuperstitiousjustriffin

If you believe in things that you don't understand...

Then rats suffer

Superstition ain't the waaay.