NFC North QB Rankings 2010 [Archive]

superfan

09-17-2010, 01:19 AM

In honor of Rastak, I've decided to continue his tradition of ranking NFC North QB Ratings, which I always enjoyed. If I get lazy and don't update this thread and someone else wants to, feel free to carry the torch.

QB Rating stats are from NFL.com

1. Jay Cutler 108.3
2. Matthew Stafford 86.2
3. Aaron Rodgers 73.1
4. Brett Favre 71.7
5. Shaun Hill 38.9

Amateur analysis:

Pretty safe to say that excluding Hill, divisional QB rankings are almost the exact opposite of what most of us expect them to be at the end of the season. Cutler's monster yardage numbers and 2 TDs help offset his inevitable INT. Stafford was relatively effective prior to his injury, Rodgers and Favre generated pedestrian ratings by their standards. If the Hill-Johnson controversial non-TD was ruled complete, Hill may have approached triple digits.

Next week's outlook:

Expect the rankings to trend back towards career norms. Both Favre and Rodgers face what should be easier opponents in week one, while the level of difficulty for Cutler increases significantly from Lions to Cowboys. Will be interesting to see how effective Hill can be taking the place of the injured Stafford against a tough opponent.

packerbacker1234

09-17-2010, 07:21 AM

glad to see this list return. It's fun to watch.

Of note, despite the yardage advantage for cutler, both favre and rodgers threw just as many TD's as Int's, which is also against trending of last season. Favre lost a passing threat, GB lost it's RB - so they both are a tad short handed, though most would agree Favre is in a worse situation - with Berrian being unreliable and harvin in his first yera starting, no longer coming out of the slot.

That Camirrilo kid or whatever his name in looks like he could be something though once the chemistry clicks.

Meanwhile - rodgers has a lot of weapons. Trending should show favre and rodgers back competeing one and two if not this week, at least by mid season.

woodbuck27

09-17-2010, 11:23 AM

Good work Superfan.

Bring back Bretzky and Rastak. WE need solid posters like them back @ Packerrats. They both were excellent contributors and I miss them.

GO PACKERS!

ThunderDan

09-17-2010, 12:16 PM

Good work Superfan.

Bring back Bretzky and Rastak. WE need solid posters like them back @ Packerrats. They both were excellent contributors and I miss them.

GO PACKERS!

Rastak was posting this week!

Joemailman

09-17-2010, 05:48 PM

Jay Cutler should stay right up there if he can get a 90 yard screen pass every week.

Hill's rating would have been 68.75 if the TD pass to Johnson has been allowed.
Edit: It would have been 76.59 since the next two incompletions would never have happened.

Joemailman

09-19-2010, 09:07 PM

After Week 2:

Jay Cutler 121.2 :shock:
Aaron Rodgers 94.0
Shaun Hill 64.8
:laugh: Brett Favre 56.1

pbmax

09-19-2010, 09:37 PM

That old Mike Martz magic. Its so disappointing to see something go right for the Bears at QB. :D

imscott72

09-19-2010, 09:53 PM

Great thread. Hope we can keep it going all year.

HarveyWallbangers

09-19-2010, 10:37 PM

Great thread. Hope we can keep it going all year.

Well, with a change of Cutler coming back to earth and Rodgers getting back into triple digits.
:D

mmmdk

09-20-2010, 12:26 PM

ThunderDan

09-20-2010, 12:41 PM

That old Mike Martz magic. Its so disappointing to see something go right for the Bears at QB. :D

I've been anticipating a Mike Martz revolution on Cutler. Cutler could have a career year but he'll still suck when it really counts [playoffs]. Yes, Bears in the playoffs in 2010/11 - smart coach too!

I wouldn't go that far. Chicago barely beat Detroit at home. The Dallas win seems impressive but I am more not sold on Dallas than giving CHI mad props.

We'll have a better idea come next Monday. We will also see if the Pack can win on the road in the NFC-North.

superfan

09-28-2010, 10:38 AM

Adding some icons to show improvement or regression from previous week.

:tup: = Improved
:doh: = Regressed

After Week 3:

Jay Cutler 109.7 :doh:
Aaron Rodgers 93.3 :doh:
Shaun Hill 66.7 :tup:
Brett Favre 60.4 :tup:

Not much movement other than Cutler dropping significantly.

superfan

10-04-2010, 01:21 AM

After Week 4:

Jay Cutler 102.2 :doh:
Aaron Rodgers 96.3 :tup:
Shaun Hill 70.2 :tup:
Brett Favre 60.4 bye

Rodgers continues to creep slowly towards the top of the rankings. Cutler continues to fade, and his best chance to stay on top might be missing significant time to injury. Shaun Hill put up gaudy numbers, but his 2 INTs hurt his rating significantly.

denverYooper

10-04-2010, 07:04 AM

Joemailman

10-08-2010, 04:39 PM

Cutler out this week, so he probably keeps the lead, unless Arod really lights up the Redskins. Bad week fir Favre to make any headway, with the Jets game.

superfan

10-14-2010, 12:21 AM

After Week 5:

Jay Cutler 102.2 DNP
Aaron Rodgers 90.7 :doh:
Shaun Hill 78.0 :tup:
Brett Favre 67.0 :tup:

:laugh: Todd Collins 5.9 :shock:

Pretty dull this year, as at least 10 points separates each player.

NFL Ranks:

5 Cutler
12 Rodgers
23 Hill
30 Favre

Despite improving his rating, only 3 QBs have a lower rating than Favre - Sam Bradford, Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen.

Joemailman

10-14-2010, 06:25 AM

Both Rodgers (Miami) and Hill (Giants) face tough pass defenses this week. Cutler, if he plays, faces a weak Seattle pass defense.

mraynrand

10-14-2010, 08:52 AM

:laugh: Todd Collins 5.9 :shock:

only 3 QBs have a lower rating than Favre - Sam Bradford, Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen.

Pretty stunning that Collins actually won a game with that horror of a QB rating! But then, he got to play Clausen and Moore (Is there a worse QB tandem in the NFL this year......or ever? Even Whitehurst/Wright/Zorn was better LOL)

(edit: actually I don't think those three were together at one time, it just sounds better because they were oh so bad circa 1986 following Dickey's dismissal by Gregg)

"You saw it"

http://www.team1200.com/images/contests/forrest-gregg.jpg

packerbacker1234

10-14-2010, 09:06 AM

Favre did improve though, so his rating is on the rise. Rodgers is still doing fine rating wise, even if we're not putting points on the board.

Cutler has certainly been a bit of surprise this year.

superfan

10-14-2010, 07:14 PM

Pretty stunning that Collins actually won a game with that horror of a QB rating!...

Yahoo Sports boxscore credits Collins with a 6.3 rating. Not sure why they should have 6.3, and NFL.com 5.9, but who really cares...

Per Yahoo, Clausen with a 29.7 rating and Matt Moore with a studly 18.8 rating. Yuck.

Pretty amazing that a QB can put up a single digit QB rating and win the game by 17 points. That may say more about the Panthers than the Bears.

woodbuck27

10-14-2010, 09:57 PM

Nice work in this thread Superfan. :)

superfan

10-18-2010, 07:05 PM

After Week 6:

Jay Cutler 93.2 :doh:
Aaron Rodgers 89.7 :doh:
Shaun Hill 79.6 :tup:
Brett Favre 72.1 :tup:

Aaron Rodgers in two overtime games - 3 attempts, 1 completion, 5 yards, 1 interception, 2 sacks = (if the calculator I used is correct) QB Rating 2.78.

:doh: :doh: :doh:

Triple facepalm for Rodgers in OT.

Freak Out

10-18-2010, 07:16 PM

Aaron Rodgers in two overtime games - 3 attempts, 1 completion, 5 yards, 1 interception, 2 sacks = (if the calculator I used is correct) QB Rating 2.78.

:doh: :doh: :doh:

Triple facepalm for Rodgers in OT.

Triple ugly.

Joemailman

10-18-2010, 07:31 PM

Cutler faces Washington this week. Opposing QB's have a 90.9 passer rating against Washington. Rodgers faces Minnesota (82.5) and Favre faces Green Bay (76.0). Detroit has a bye.

Airin' Rodgers

10-25-2010, 11:01 AM

Thought I would update it

After Week 7:

Aaron Rodgers 89.0 :doh:
Jay Cutler 84.1 :doh:
Shaun Hill 79.6 Bye week
Brett Favre 68.0 :doh:

Cutler with the major regression.
Rodgers with the very slight Regression.
Favre with the Medium regression.
Hill stays with a bye

superfan

10-25-2010, 06:52 PM

Tough year in general so far for the NFC North QBs.

Individual NFL QB Rating Rankings through Week 7:

12. Rodgers
21. Cutler
23. Hill
30. Favre

Team NFL QB Rating Rankings through Week 7:

14. Packers
21. Lions
29. Bears
30. Vikings

That's just poor QB play all around. No QBs in the top 10, and Favre still only ahead of Derek Anderson, who has been benched, and the Carolina QBs, Moore and Clausen. And two of the bottom four teams in terms of QB rating.

So, being the NFC North (smash mouth, black and blue, hardnosed, etc.), these teams must be compensating with strong RB play, right? Well, no. Not really.

7. Vikings, 136.2 yards per game
20. Packers, 99.3
30. Bears, 88.6
31. Lions, 79.0

Poor offensive performances overall for the division. Vikings have done well rushing the ball and defensively (7th in yards per game, 11th in points per game), but QB play is really dragging them down. Bears are a bit of an anomaly with a winning record and bad QB rating and rushing yards per game, but their defense is still pretty strong (6th in ypg and ppg).

Joemailman

10-25-2010, 07:18 PM

Tough year for the elite QB's so far. Brees (109.6/91.4), Favre (107.2/68.0), Rivers (104.4/97.8), and Rodgers (103.2/89.0) all have lower passer ratings so far this year compared to last year.
Manning is slightly higher (99.9/103.4).

superfan

11-01-2010, 11:13 PM

Joemailman

11-01-2010, 11:29 PM

Cutler faces Buffalo pass defense that is the worst in the NFL. They've given up 15 TD passes with 1 INT. Rodgers faces Dallas which hasn't been much better. Favre faces Arizona which has been decent. Favre may not have Harvin though. Detroit faces the Jets.

Packgator

11-09-2010, 12:23 PM

Airin' Rodgers

11-09-2010, 12:28 PM

After Week 8, NFL ranking in parentheses:

(16) Aaron Rodgers 85.3 :doh:
(19) Jay Cutler 84.1 Bye week
(23) Shaun Hill 79.6 Did not play, Stafford not enough stats to qualify
(29) Brett Favre 69.8 :tup:

Divisional grade = :eyes:

One of the worst divisions in football for overall QB rating.

For Week 9

(11) Aaron Rodgers 90.6 :tup:
(16) Jay Cutler 86.0 :tup:
(27) Brett Favre 75.7 :tup:

Stafford still does not have enough attempts to qualify, and Hill is injured as well.

Overall a good week for the QB's

Joemailman

11-16-2010, 07:20 PM

For Week 10:

(15) Aaron Rodgers 90.6 (Bye)
(18) Jay Cutler 86.2
(26) Shaun Hill 78.8
(31) Brett Favre 72.2

Haven't figured out the emoticons yet!

superfan

11-16-2010, 08:06 PM

Thanks, Joemailman.

Still a pathetic showing overall for the NFC North QBs. ARod barely in the top half of the NFL overall, and everyone else below that.

This division stinks in terms of QB play.

hoosier

11-16-2010, 08:22 PM

If you throw out Vick's and Romo's numbers, Rodgers is fourth in the NFC in QB rating and only 1.5 points behind the leader (Eli Manning). Compared to last year, a lot of really good QBs (Brees and Peyton really jump out in addition to ARod) are having down years. Interceptions also seem to be up this year compared to last. It seems to me that there must be some kind of systemic explanation for this; it seems very unlikely that they would all be having such big dropoffs in the same year.

Joemailman

11-16-2010, 09:45 PM

As discussed earlier (in another thread?) last year was an anomaly. Five QB's over 100+ passer rating was unheard of. In addition, Favre, Rodgers, Brees and Manning have all lost key offensive weapons due to injury. The numbers really aren't that bad if you don't compare them to last year. For instance, Rodgers' current rating is better than Favre had in 9 of his 16 seasons in Green Bay.

channtheman

11-16-2010, 11:04 PM

Rodgers will be fine from here on out. He finally had that good game this year, which means we will go 7-0 the rest of the year as he throws for 16 more TD's and only 3 INT's. Watch.

Cheesehead Craig

11-17-2010, 08:41 AM

Rodgers will be fine from here on out. He finally had that good game this year, which means we will go 7-0 the rest of the year as he throws for 16 more TD's and only 3 INT's. Watch.
But yet you're predicting that the Vikes beat the Packers this week in the Predict the Vikes/Pack score thread. So which is it? We go undefeated or we lose to MN?

denverYooper

11-17-2010, 11:24 AM

But yet you're predicting that the Vikes beat the Packers this week in the Predict the Vikes/Pack score thread. So which is it? We go undefeated or we lose to MN?

He has to predict a loss in the Prediction thread.

channtheman

11-17-2010, 06:44 PM

He has to predict a loss in the Prediction thread.

This. In every other thread I can be as much a homer as I want. I do think Rodgers will turn his season around and end with impressive stats.

Joemailman

11-17-2010, 07:52 PM

I thought last week was Rodgers' best game this year as far as accuracy. Hopefully that will continue.

bobblehead

11-23-2010, 07:05 AM

bump.....anyone with 2 hands motivated?

channtheman

11-23-2010, 09:27 AM

For Week 10:

(15) Aaron Rodgers 90.6 (Bye)
(18) Jay Cutler 86.2
(26) Shaun Hill 78.8
(31) Brett Favre 72.2

Haven't figured out the emoticons yet!

bump.....anyone with 2 hands motivated?

I suppose I can manage.

(8) Aaron Rodgers 95.7 :tup:
(21) Jay Cutler 84.2 :doh:
(24) Shan Hill 80.5 :tup:
(32) Brett Favre 69.8 :doh:

Ranking in the league on the left in parentheses. Favre is 32/33. Only Matt Moore of Carolina is worse with a 55.6 rating.

Guiness

11-23-2010, 11:02 AM

Cutler's where I expected him to be now. He managed to keep his QB rating over 100 until after their bye (week 5) but that house of cards came tumbling down.

hoosier

11-23-2010, 12:54 PM

Yikes. Brett's QB rating is headed for the early 1970s.

MadScientist

11-23-2010, 01:40 PM

Aaron's rating has jumped by over 5 points after each of the last 2 games. That takes some doing this late in the season.

Cheesehead Craig

11-23-2010, 03:28 PM

Yikes. Brett's QB rating is headed for the early 1970s.

That was what, his 3rd season?

Fosco33

11-23-2010, 05:36 PM

channtheman

11-23-2010, 05:43 PM

I find it interesting that people are saying Arod's performance has fallen off from last year.

If you do a per game assessment - he's down 15 yards passing/game, even (plus) on TDs, ahead of INTs (but 7 in 16 games was ridiculous last year), down on sacks (he may end at 32 instead of 50), on par with rushing performance and has no fumbles (compared to 10, 4 lost - last year).

To me - he's maintaining his strong performance of last year and is up a little in INTs.

Up until the Cowboys game, Rodgers did not have a really good game. He might have had slightly above average (maybe 1-2), but he was either average or below average. The last two games he has looked lights out (got lucky with one throw against the Vikes) and that has really improved his stats. He will be fine from here on out.

Cheesehead Craig

11-24-2010, 04:34 PM

Jay Cutler is 2 wins away from his first winning season since high school.

channtheman

11-24-2010, 04:57 PM

Jay Cutler is 2 wins away from his first winning season since high school.

He had a winning season in High School? I always thought he had never had a winning season anywhere.

HarveyWallbangers

11-24-2010, 08:27 PM

Up until the Cowboys game, Rodgers did not have a really good game. He might have had slightly above average (maybe 1-2), but he was either average or below average. The last two games he has looked lights out (got lucky with one throw against the Vikes) and that has really improved his stats. He will be fine from here on out.

I wouldn't say he was mostly average or below average, but he certainly didn't play as well as he did at the end of last year.

channtheman

11-29-2010, 02:41 PM

(7) Aaron Rodgers 97.4 :tup:
(16) Jay Cutler 90.4 :tup:
(25) Shaun Hill 78.6 :doh:
(30) Brett Favre 71.0 :tup:

This weeks rankings continue to see Rodgers climb back to where he was last year. Jay Cutler jumps up 5 spots and raises his rating 6 points with his monster game against Philly. Who cares about Hill, and Favre moved ahead of three QB's in the NFL. He is now ahead of Derek Anderson, Bruce Gradkowski, and Jimmy Clausen. I don't know what happened to Matt Moore on the rankings list at Foxsports. Maybe he doesn't have enough passes to qualify now.

Joemailman

11-29-2010, 02:50 PM

Arod now has 3 straight games coming up against mediocre pass defenses. Pretty good chance we see him top 100 unless weather is a major factor in Green Bay and New England.

Airin' Rodgers

11-29-2010, 03:31 PM

On a side note, Rodgers is now tied Phillip Rivers for first on the ALL TIME passer ratting list, at 97.3. Steve Young is 3rd

RashanGary

11-29-2010, 04:54 PM

Aaron is Drew Brees before Brees won the SB. He and Rivers are in that class of, "great, but too young and unaccomplished to be called elite".

RashanGary

12-05-2010, 06:01 PM

Rodgers broke the 100 mark after todays performance. 100.3. The way the season started, I didn't think this day would come. It should only get better now that Starks is running the ball.

Joemailman

12-05-2010, 07:55 PM

Week 13 Standings:

(4) Aaron Rodgers 100.3 :tup:
(13) Jay Cutler 92.8 :tup:
(24) Shaun Hill 78.6 DNP
(29) Brett Favre 69.6 :doh:

Rogers continues to climb, and he gets the Lions next week.
Cutler still has to face the Jets and Packers defenses.

Cheesehead Craig

12-06-2010, 08:33 AM

Actually pretty impressed with Cutler, after the start he had he has really turned it around.

Joemailman

12-14-2010, 05:31 PM

Standings through Week 14

(4) Aaron Rodgers 98.5 :doh:
(15) Jay Cutler 88.3 :doh:
(23) Shaun Hill 78.6 DNP
(29) Brett Favre 69.6 DNP

What an ugly week. NFC North QB ratings for Week 14:

Matt Flynn 62.5
Aaron Rodgers 34.7
Jay Cutler 32.9
Drew Stanton 39.4
Tarvaris Jackson 46.3

vince

12-14-2010, 05:35 PM

Jennings halls in the ball that was delivered right to his fingertips for a long TD instead of an INT and Rodgers' rating looks quite different. Unfortunate in so many ways.

Joemailman

12-14-2010, 05:48 PM

Jennings halls in the ball that was delivered right to his fingertips for a long TD instead of an INT and Rodgers' rating looks quite different. Unfortunate in so many ways.

His passer rating would have been 138.1.

Scott Campbell

12-14-2010, 05:59 PM

I had visions Sunday of Jordy Nelson showing up on this list. Scary.

Joemailman

12-28-2010, 05:09 PM

Standings through Week 16:

(4) Aaron Rodgers 101.9 :tup:
(13) Jay Cutler 90.6 :tup:
(22) Shaun Hill 80.6 :tup:
(30) Brett Favre 69.9 Expected to be inactive.

May be Favre's final number. What a difference a year makes.

Aaron's numbers are really impressive considering what he has done without 2 key weapons.

Bretsky

12-28-2010, 06:57 PM

Cutler was well worth what Chicago gave up and his numbers are impressive without really any weapons

HarveyWallbangers

12-28-2010, 08:35 PM

I don't buy that Culter doesn't have weapons. Their OL isn't good, but Forte is an excellent receiving RB, Olsen is a good TE, and Knox has become one of the better deep threats in the NFL. He doesn't have great WRs, but his overall receiving corps isn't terrible.

Bretsky

12-28-2010, 09:49 PM

GB's receivers are superior to Chicago's without Finley

bobblehead

12-29-2010, 10:19 AM

GB's receivers are superior to Chicago's without Finley

Or does Rodgers make them look that way?

bobblehead

12-29-2010, 10:20 AM

Standings through Week 16:

(4) Aaron Rodgers 101.9 :tup:
(13) Jay Cutler 90.6 :tup:
(22) Shaun Hill 80.6 :tup:
(30) Brett Favre 69.9 Expected to be inactive.

May be Favre's final number. What a difference a year without working out and sitting on your ass for 6 months when you are 40 makes.

Aaron's numbers are really impressive considering what he has done without 2 key weapons.

fixed

pbmax

01-04-2011, 10:18 PM

(3) Aaron Rodgers 101.2 :doh: *
(16) Jay Cutler 86.3 :whaa:
(23) Shaun Hill 81.3 :tup:
(29) Brett Favre 69.9 :beat:

* stupid Bear's game caused this to drop. Might have to continue in playoffs to see thumbs up here again.

Bretsky

01-04-2011, 10:24 PM

Or does Rodgers make them look that way?

Jennings
Driver
Nelson
Jones

GB's WR's are far superior to Chicago's with Matt Flynn as the QB

HarveyWallbangers

01-04-2011, 10:53 PM

What about Olsen vs. Donald Lee and Forte as a receiving RB? Really, the thing that really separates the receiving corps is Jennings. That's it. Obviously, Finley when he's healthy. You put Jennings on the Bears, and the receiving corps looks pretty damn good with Jennings, Knox, Bennett, Hester in the slot, Olsen, and Forte.