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vince
09-18-2010, 07:38 AM
Nick McDonald probably won't be active on many game days, but I'm sure pulling for him to develop into an All-Pro. What a tough road he's fought through. Great story.

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100917/PKR01/100917131/Lineman-McDonald-overcomes-odds-to-win-spot-on-roster


Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Nick McDonald left tough adolescence behind to win spot on roster

Nick McDonald has seen the movie “The Blind Side,” but he didn’t really need to.

He lived it.

If you know the story of Michael Oher, the Baltimore Ravens’ offensive tackle, then you know the basic outline of McDonald’s life. The movie follows Oher, a homeless kid who was taken in by a woman named Leigh Anne Tuohy (played by Sandra Bullock) and her family.

Sure, there are differences. Oher grew up in Memphis, went on to play big-time college football at Mississippi and became a first-round draft pick in 2009. McDonald lived in Sterling Heights, Mich., played offensive line at tiny Grand Valley State and earlier this month made the Green Bay Packers as an undrafted rookie free agent.

Yet their hardships were much the same.

Oher had an absentee father and a mother who was an alcoholic and drug addict and bounced between foster homes and the streets before Tuohy took him in. McDonald’s mother died of cancer when he was 14, and his dad flew the coop not long after, leaving four children to fend for themselves.

A woman named Gayle Joseph became McDonald’s Leigh Anne Tuohy.

“Thank God for Gayle,” said fellow Packers rookie Frank Zombo, a childhood friend of McDonald’s. “She’s a great woman and really raised him and took care of him.”

McDonald was dating Joseph’s daughter Meghan when his mother died and his father abruptly moved to Louisiana — by himself. Joseph didn’t know exactly how bad McDonald’s situation was at first.

“I knew things weren’t going well at home just by little things that he said,” Joseph said. “The reality was that I was dropping this boy off at a home where there were four kids and no parent and no money and no phone. It was really hard for me, but I was a little reluctant (to take him in) because he was dating my daughter.”

The four kids — McDonald has an older brother, an older sister and a younger brother — lived on their own for about six months until they were evicted from their modest three-bedroom ranch home in suburban Detroit. The older two siblings were out of high school, but Nick and his younger brother Chris (who now plays football at Michigan State) were still in school. Their father returned briefly to find homes for Nick and Chris, but Nick’s living arrangement didn’t work out.

That’s when Joseph knew she had to step in.

“My motherly instincts just took over,” Joseph said. “I said, ‘You know what, I’m going to be his mother because he needs that. It was hard to watch the pain that Nick was going through. We talk about his mom, and I don’t in any way try to replace her. She was a wonderful mom and has four wonderful kids. I don’t think their dad’s been a good role model, but I do tell Nick, ‘You know what, your dad’s messed up, but he does love you.’ I want Nick to know that because it’s hard for a kid to think they’ve lost one parent and the other parent isn’t there for them.”

McDonald and Meghan Joseph eventually broke up, but he continued to live with the Josephs throughout high school and college. Meghan now has a daughter, and Nick is the godfather. He said he rarely speaks with his father, who is remarried. They spoke last December, when “we kinda got into it a little bit,” McDonald said.

“I actually talked to him once real quick when he found out I made the team,” McDonald said. “But it was real quick. Other than that, our relationship is pretty distant.”

So it should come as no surprise that the first person McDonald called when he found out he had survived the final cut and made the Packers’ roster was Joseph.

“I had prepared myself for him to say, ‘They released me,’” Joseph said. “Then when he told me that he made the team, all the emotions came flooding out.”

McDonald was perhaps the biggest surprise to survive the Packers’ final cut. He was an afterthought at the beginning of training camp. When he and Zombo were making the eight-hour drive to Green Bay for the start of training camp, they joked there was a chance one of them would get released before they made it to town.

McDonald, 23, didn’t play in last week’s season opener at Philadelphia and probably won’t be active on Sunday against Buffalo, either. His hold on a roster spot is precarious, considering the Packers’ depth and experience on the offensive line. But if the Packers can afford to keep him on the roster, they’d love to develop him. At 6-foot-4 and 316 pounds, he has good size although he needs to get stronger. He also has the versatility the coaches like. He played everywhere but center in college. In the preseason, he worked at guard and center.

What stuck out the most, though, was McDonald’s approach to the game.

“Pretty serious guy,” Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said. “I’m sure he has a lighter side that I haven’t seen a whole lot of, but he’s pretty serious and takes his job seriously.”

Those who know McDonald’s story weren’t surprised when told of Philbin’s comments.

“Nick is a prime example of life’s experiences and how that results in a person’s character,” said George Barnett, McDonald’s position coach in college. “The way he carries himself on and off the field is a tribute to the experiences he’s been through. He would never openly talk about anything that he had gone through, but you could tell the experiences he’s been through have affected him. He’s used those experiences in a positive way.”

All this week, Joseph, 52, has been in Green Bay helping McDonald get settled in the apartment he’s sharing with Zombo. She helped him buy his first car on Tuesday and cooked a few meals for him. When she takes her seat in Lambeau Field on Sunday, it’s unlikely there will be a prouder person among the 70,000-plus in the stadium.

The soft-spoken McDonald doesn’t mind telling his story, but he doesn’t advertise it, either. He has a tattoo on his chest with his mother’s name, date of birth and date of death.

“It was pretty rough at that age to go through it,” McDonald said. “Looking back on it, it kind of sucked because we were all split up, me and my brothers and sister. We were all living in different places, living with different families. But once we all went off and grew up a little bit, we’ve stayed pretty close.”

No one’s going to make a movie about McDonald’s life, and he’ll probably never watch “The Blind Side” again because of how emotional it was for him and Joseph to watch together. But last Saturday, Barnett, who now coaches at Illinois State, was on a bus ride after a loss at Northwestern when someone on the team turned on that movie.

“It makes you think about Nick in a hurry,” Barnett said

Fritz
09-18-2010, 08:41 AM
Will his Dad be hitting him up for some cash?

bobblehead
09-18-2010, 09:16 AM
Will his Dad be hitting him up for some cash?

Of course, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what kind of man he is.

One thing in the article that bothered me was when they talked about him as a player and mentioned that he needs to gain strength. Now, everything I read before talked about his natural power and him being a road grinder type.....so which is it?

Tarlam!
09-18-2010, 11:06 AM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

gbgary
09-18-2010, 11:18 AM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

condolences sir!

Mazzin
09-18-2010, 01:02 PM
Sorry to hear that Tar, you will be in Gabe and I's prayers.

Fritz
09-18-2010, 01:33 PM
I am sorry to hear about this, Tar. I really am.

As for McDonald's father, well, it is difficult for me to fathom. As a divorced father of three girls, I had to struggle against the prejudice against fathers in the court system and in our society. Dads are stereotyped as not caring, getting off easy while the mothers take care of and raise the children. So any story about a Dad abandoning his kids gets me.

Your case seems very different than McDonald's in that respect. You haven't abandoned your kids.

retailguy
09-18-2010, 01:37 PM
These are the kind of stories that make you want to pull for the guy, and then make you want to claw the eyes out of a diva like Michael Crabtree.

I really, really hope this kid makes it.

retailguy
09-18-2010, 01:39 PM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

I don't see these stories as similar at all. But I get your point. Rarely does the news media get something correct. It can be written that way, for sure.

Tar, my thoughts and prayers are still with you and the kids.

Keep on keeping on!

pbmax
09-18-2010, 02:06 PM
Tar, you have my heartfelt condolences on losing your wife. I can barely fathom the pain that would result from losing someone so close.

It seems like you made a clear headed decision about your children and ensured they were safe and secure. That alone should put you at ease.

Here's wishing you fully recover soon.

vince
09-18-2010, 03:54 PM
So sorry to hear about your loss Tar. It must be so tough for you and your kids. It sounds like you have a lot to be proud of with them. Hang in there.

Brando19
09-18-2010, 07:42 PM
Tarlam,
I don't know anything about you personally. All I know of you is on these boards. But I can tell you, I am truly sorry for your loss and I respect you for what you're going through. You are in my thoughts and prayers and I hope you continue to do better.

Guiness
09-18-2010, 09:29 PM
Some story Tar - that's been over the past couple of years, during the time I've known you (from these boards). A tough go, no doubt, and happy to hear you've made it this far.

Fritz - I hear you loud and clear as well. I'm a divorced father of 2 boys - and initially the courts pretty much took the kids away from me. Why? Because. A divorced man with an un-cooperative, ex-wife is in trouble. If she's vindictive, forget about it. Took me near 3 years to straighten out the mess one blind day in court got me into.

bobblehead
09-18-2010, 10:20 PM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

I don't see these stories as similar at all. But I get your point. Rarely does the news media get something correct. It can be written that way, for sure.

Tar, my thoughts and prayers are still with you and the kids.

Keep on keeping on!

What he said tar....you are nothing like this guy. If you leave your kids to fend for themselves and run off to another state without looking to see they are ok I'll judge you accordingly.

wist43
09-19-2010, 08:48 AM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

I am sorry for your loss Tar... you're a good man.

Your circumstance is different, and your kids are provided for; but there are an awful lot of bad people in the world too... I was an abandoned kid at 16, and from my perspective there can be no excuse.

There we no Leigh Ann Tuohy's for me, I slept in the back seat of my $350 Toyota Corolla for 2 weeks, until I drew a couple of minimum wage paychecks to rent a room in trailer. I was again homeless in my early 20's; slept in my pickup truck, and lived in a homeless shelter until I found a job.

Trust me on this... the world looks much different thru the eyes of someone who has no one - do that do a kid??? even if they adapt, survive, and thrive... it's still a life sentence. The sense of abandonment never goes away.

I do wish you well my friend.

MichiganPackerFan
09-20-2010, 01:07 PM
It's a good story, and I wish you strength, Tar.

Grand Valley's downtown campus (which I attended while briefly toying with a masters) was about a mile from my house, and I don't exactly consider enrollment of more than 23,000 "tiny". Actually for Div. II, they have been in 6 of the last nine championship games, winning 4 and losing 2.

mission
09-20-2010, 01:19 PM
Dang, Tar, I'm so sorry to learn that. I wish you the very best. Tough for me to read as a parent.

HarveyWallbangers
09-20-2010, 01:52 PM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

That's terrible news. I knew that your wife had her struggles, but I didn't realize that she was gone. Sorry to hear about that! My thoughts and prayers are with you and your children.

Sparkey
09-20-2010, 02:38 PM
My kids lost their Mom at age 14 and 15 respectively. That was 22 months ago. I broke down and they now attend boarding school about 20 miles from our home.

I haven't recovered yet, but they are doing great. They came home this week end and I am so proud of them both. Their mother would be so proud. I bought them an iPhone each.

What I'm saying is, don't judge the Dad in McDonald's story until you've walked a mile in his shoes. It is so painful to lose your life's partner and your kids remind you of that pain just because they resemble your dead partner. They remind you of what you lost. They are so completely innocent, They can't help it. You love them, but it's so difficult being around them.

I am crying while I type this. I miss my wife so much.

:hug:

Tarlam!
09-21-2010, 06:32 PM
I want to thank you all for your very kind words and all of your prayers. Also the very kind pms. I know I'm "different",yet you have embraced me as one of your own. You probably have no idea of what that means to me. It means more to me tjan I couöld possibley describe in words.

I thank you all again. I am at a loss for words, which is not like me at all.