Official Packers vs Lions Game Day thread

[gbgary]

come on D

[mmmdk]

Vick showed the way.

[pbmax]

How close are they to the penalty record now?

[pbmax]

12. Thank you TV

[Jimx29]

this d is very embarrassing

[gbgary]

good coverage and qb containment on that.

[pbmax]

Vick showed the way.
This is hardly the only defense that has trouble with a running QB.

Problem is they have not made any other stops on 3rd down.

[mmmdk]

This week; penalties are Packers friend.

[imscott72]

Of course Hanson nails the 52 yarder..He just loves kicking at Lambeau..

[mmmdk]

Vick showed the way.
This is hardly the only defense that has trouble with a running QB.

Problem is they have not made any other stops on 3rd down.

can't argue with that.

[Tarlam!]

The Lions have had 30 mins of possession, so far. The D must be gassed or something.

[steve823]

The announcers cracked me up on that one.

"And Hanson nails it. He's been one of their best draft picks over the years."

"And that's part of their problem."

[pbmax]

Terrible read by Jackson.

[mmmdk]

Of course Hanson nails the 52 yarder..He just loves kicking at Lambeau..

Hanson is killer. Best Lion draft pick since 1992...

[mmmdk]

The announcers cracked me up on that one.

"And Hanson nails it. He's been one of their best draft picks over the years."

"And that's part of their problem."

ditto :lol:

[pbmax]

Both Center and Guard let Suh go free.

[cheesner]

Of course Hanson nails the 52 yarder..He just loves kicking at Lambeau..

Hanson is killer. Best Lion draft pick since 1992...
How many TDs does Calving Johnson have today?

[imscott72]

Pathetic..I'm really starting to think we're not as good as people think we are..I'm mainly talking defensively..

[gbgary]

time for another lion turnover.

[cheesner]

Time for the Claymaker!

[MJZiggy]

The Lions have had 30 mins of possession, so far. The D must be gassed or something.

Gassed or unconscious?

[mmmdk]

Of course Hanson nails the 52 yarder..He just loves kicking at Lambeau..

Hanson is killer. Best Lion draft pick since 1992...
How many TDs does Calving Johnson have today?

good lord - just watch the game if you don't get the funny irony.

[steve823]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.

[pbmax]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.
McCarthy told Rodgers to throw to the double covered TE and then complain about the lack of a penalty?

[mmmdk]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.

I think ya could be on to something.

[pbmax]

Tramon Williams just whiffed on a stop.

[steve823]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.
McCarthy told Rodgers to throw to the double covered TE and then complain about the lack of a penalty?

Run on first down...then pass pass. Predictable.

[DannoMac21]

This is unreal.

[imscott72]

I don't know what else to say anymore about this defense..Just terrible..

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!

[Bossman641]

I hate how they got rid of the 5 yard face mask. In the past there is no way that would have counted for 15 yards

[pbmax]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.
McCarthy told Rodgers to throw to the double covered TE and then complain about the lack of a penalty?

Run on first down...then pass pass. Predictable.
Seriously?

[MJZiggy]

I hate how they got rid of the 5 yard face mask. In the past there is no way that would have counted for 15 yards

On the replay, it wasn't worth 5

[pbmax]

BUSH@!!!!!!!!

[Jimx29]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.

I think ya could be on to something.^what they said^

[mmmdk]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.
McCarthy told Rodgers to throw to the double covered TE and then complain about the lack of a penalty?

This drive:

1st-10, GB27 1:37 B. Jackson rushed up the middle for no gain
2nd-10, GB27 0:57 A. Rodgers incomplete pass down the middle
3rd-10, GB27 0:52 A. Rodgers sacked by N. Suh

[gbgary]

got to pile up some first downs, eat up some clock, and get a td.

[gbgary]

oh shit

[Jimx29]

sheeesh...........

[DannoMac21]

You have got to be fucking kidding me. We're going to lose to the Lions. Jesus fucking Christ almighty. Holy fuck.

[Bossman641]

Is this for real? WTF Nelson.

[pbmax]

This is the end.

[steve823]

Yea we need to have a long drive here get some points and give our D time to rest.

[imscott72]

MISTAKES MISTAKES MISTAKES..This isn't even CLOSE to a Superbowl team boys and girls..

[Badgerinmaine]

Dagnabit, Jordy! The Packers' return game is killing them.

[mmmdk]

NO

[Fosco33]

Getting comical. This team isn't nearly as good as advertised.

[pbmax]

Bad playcalling by McCarthy on thats series.
McCarthy told Rodgers to throw to the double covered TE and then complain about the lack of a penalty?

This drive:

1st-10, GB27 1:37 B. Jackson rushed up the middle for no gain
2nd-10, GB27 0:57 A. Rodgers incomplete pass down the middle
3rd-10, GB27 0:52 A. Rodgers sacked by N. Suh
You are complaining about results. You have no idea if the play design or the game strategy involved in the call were good.

You cannot complain about the play call unless you know WHY it was bad. Anyone can see the result wasn't good.

[SkinBasket]

24+29=a piss poor pass defense.

[Badgerinmaine]

I don't know what has a worse return game: the Packers or the Badgers.

[pbmax]

Well, I am officially off the Hawk bandwagon.

[mmmdk]

This is the end.

of McCarthy? :lol:

[pbmax]

24+29=a piss poor pass defense.
No pass rush is worse.

[pbmax]

This is the end.

of McCarthy? :lol:
A lot of people including M3. Lose to the Lions at home and play like this. It is a serious breach of duty.

[Badgerinmaine]

Thank goodness for the great defensive stand. The Packers really don't deserve to be ahead.

[Fosco33]

I don't know what has a worse return game: the Packers or the Badgers.
Or a worse kick coverage unit.

[Badgerinmaine]

Well, I am officially off the Hawk bandwagon.
Hawk's facemask penalty was a critical play on the Lions' last TD drive. Disappointing.

[mmmdk]

D held.

[Fosco33]

Got very lucky to only give up 3 there.

Pack should feel VERY lucky so far. Should easily be down a few scores - instead we have a chance to get it back to 2 scores up.

NOW is the time for an answer. Need one big time.

Note to Jordy - if it goes in the endzone - kneel. If you catch it in traffic, run out of bounds. Thanks.

[gbgary]

This is the end.

an Apocalypse Now reference?

[steve823]

PB I could care less about the results. I just think running up the middle with Jackson clearly isn't the answer. Why not try screens to him or do some quick easy passes on first down.

Anyways..lets GO PACK. Get a TD and end this bullshit.

[Freak Out]

What the hell is going on?

[mmmdk]

Got very lucky to only give up 3 there.

Pack should feel VERY lucky so far. Should easily be down a few scores - instead we have a chance to get it back to 2 scores up.

NOW is the time for an answer. Need one big time.

Note to Jordy - if it goes in the endzone - kneel. If you catch it in traffic, run out of bounds. Thanks.

Give this man a new job as GB ST coach.!

[Bossman641]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imscott72]

SPEECHLESS

[DannoMac21]

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. HOLY SHIT THIS TEAMS FUCKING AWFUL

[Jimx29]

cue the fat lady


and PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE get rid of MM....he's completely lost

[gbgary]

first downs MM, first downs!

[Bossman641]

How many offensive plays have we run this half? Like 3?

[Fosco33]

wow... not the gameplan I would've called. How bout a nice sustained drive for a TD... nope - let's bomb it. wtf

Huge play. 2 straight division losses could be a season killer.

And this D is gassed. Not feeling good right now.

[imscott72]

Maybe this is what happens when you don't give a FUCK if you have a running game or not..

[Cheesehead Craig]

About to fucking puke.

[mmmdk]

I'm speechless!
:cry:

[Jimx29]

How many offensive plays have we run this half? Like 3?you ask that like 24 yards of offense isn't very good

[pbmax]

What was that?

[pbmax]

All the LBs look slow.

[TravisWilliams23]

Does Matthew's ever go to the inside on his pass rush?

[Cheesehead Craig]

The only way we'll win this game is if Detroit gives it to us.

[DannoMac21]

Maybe this is what happens when you don't give a FUCK if you have a running game or not..

Bingo.

[Fosco33]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

[pbmax]

That was an idiotic delayed blitz by Hawk.

[Fosco33]

That was an idiotic delayed blitz by Hawk.

I've hated Dom's approach to this game. We don't have the 2ndry to bail out a missed blitz. More man-man needed.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Capers gameplan is horseshit.

[mmmdk]

3rd down collapse again.

[Fosco33]

The only way we'll win this game is if Detroit gives it to us.

they've given us like 20 points already...

[pbmax]

They have adjusted coverage when blitzing. Much closer to the LOS in coverage, then when blitz forces short throw, tackle is faster.

[cheesner]

The only way we'll win this game is if Detroit gives it to us.The refs may give it to us also - they seem to dislike teh Lions.

[Bossman641]

Where the fuck is the middle of the D. No linebackers, no safeties.

[pbmax]

Excpet for that play, when Darren Sharper was playing deep.

[DannoMac21]

So tempted to turn this pile of shit off. Fuck this team.

[imscott72]

The defense has nothing left..Nothing..

[SkinBasket]

Hawk and Barnett look like poop and turd. Then they put in poppinga and I can't help but cry.

5-40 yards downfield right down the middle. Open any time they want it.

[Fosco33]

3rd down collapse again.

embarrassing for them

[Cheesehead Craig]

Capers gameplan is horseshit.

Middle of the field has been wide open all game.

[MJZiggy]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

In this case I'd say we're the dogs.

[MadScientist]

The third down D is completely shitty.

[Fosco33]

The defense has nothing left..Nothing..

they've played all but 15 min of the game... on their heels.

[gbgary]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

lots of movie references today. lol

[Fosco33]

Detroit deserves to win this game.

[MadScientist]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

In this case I'd say we're the dogs.
Cause they're leaving turds all over the lawn?

[DannoMac21]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

In this case I'd say we're the dogs.

No we're definitely the pussies.

[pbmax]

That play wasn't Woodson. It was a bad throw, behind the receiver.

[Fosco33]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

In this case I'd say we're the dogs.
Cause they're leaving turds all over the lawn?

And many of them need to live in the doghouse after this game.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Any wagers that MM will run 3 straight times to try and work some clock?

[Badgerinmaine]

Thank God for Woodson!

[Badgerinmaine]

What the hell is going on?

Dog and cats living together....

In this case I'd say we're the dogs.
Cause they're leaving turds all over the lawn?
+1. :lol: :lol:

[steve823]

Alright enough of this negative bullshit in this thread. We score here.

[gbgary]

That play wasn't Woodson. It was a bad throw, behind the receiver.

woodson in his shorts had a bit of an affect.

[Freak Out]

Have we actually only had 26 plays on offense?

[Fosco33]

Really (really) need Arod to be a leader here. Some 1st downs - a FG or a TD would be very nice.

[pbmax]

Look. A good play call because he gained seven.

[Fosco33]

Have we actually only had 26 plays on offense?

Yup.

[Bossman641]

Huge hole but kuhn tooo slow to do anything with it

[Badgerinmaine]

Kuuuuuuuhn

[pbmax]

That play wasn't Woodson. It was a bad throw, behind the receiver.

woodson in his shorts had a bit of an affect.
Yes. But Johnson was open on an accurate throw.

[Fosco33]

Look. A good play call because he gained seven.

Ha. We just need positive yards and 1st downs. I'd be fine with a bunch of short passes too.

[DannoMac21]

Huge hole but kuhn tooo slow to do anything with it

I just said to my brother "If that was Lynch that would've been 20 extra yards at least".

GET A FUCKING RUNNING BACK THOMPSON

[Fosco33]

why go out of bounds DD? You're a vet.

[pbmax]

Driver! Fall down in bounds you idiot!

[pbmax]

Two stright runs, good strategy because each worked.

Last run bad stategy because he gained nothing.

[gbgary]

ok mm. pass now.

[Fosco33]

About that needing positive yards thing...

and thanks for staying in bounds ARod. DD - learn a thing.

[imscott72]

Great play Aaron..Great!

[pbmax]

Good job Aaron. Stay inbounds. Now tell the receivers.

[gbgary]

very smart AR

[pbmax]

Good play call because it worked.

[gbgary]

quick hitters. love em'.

[pbmax]

Who's your mama just put Balt on top of Pitt.

[Freak Out]

Now it looks like MM has pulled his head out.

[Fosco33]

Two stright runs, good strategy because each worked.

Last run bad stategy because he gained nothing.

More good strategies. 8-)

If Pack wins this game - we get the gift we gave to Chicago back... from the Lions.

[Badgerinmaine]

Is it just me, or is Wayne Larrivee's phrase "knocking on their territorial door" just goofy?

[Cheesehead Craig]

That was supposed to be a screen, good move by ARod

[imscott72]

Now that's how you run the fucking ball!! KUHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[pbmax]

Now it looks like MM has pulled his head out.
But earlier two straight runs were predictable. Not you Freak, but others.

[mmmdk]

McCarthy is nothing without AR or BF back in the day.

[gbgary]

running good because it's up the middle, quick stuff. nothing fancy. bullrush.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hells yeah!

[Freak Out]

Now it looks like MM has pulled his head out.
But earlier two straight runs were predictable. Not you Freak, but others.

It's hard to get a feel for this game on NFL gametracker. :)

[Cheesehead Craig]

One more first down, and this is over

[gbgary]

gotta get a td here to break their back.

[imscott72]

1ST DOWNNNNNNNNN

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ok, that was a ballsy-ass call by MM

[cheesner]

Nice call - atta boy Lee!

[pbmax]

Its not good to have only two good drives in the game.

[Badgerinmaine]

Lions are down to only one time out left.

[mmmdk]

8 in box; Packers pass. Great call, McCarthy. First of day though.

[pbmax]

Ok, that was a ballsy-ass call by MM
AR might have audibled that, but he only talked to the RB. So he may have been faking a run like Manning.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think we can just do the victory formation right?

[mmmdk]

Ok, that was a ballsy-ass call by MM
AR might have audibled that, but he only talked to the RB. So he may have been faking a run like Manning.

Ah, mayby AR stole his fire. That figures. :lol:

[Badgerinmaine]

I think we can just do the victory formation right?
not yet

[pbmax]

Wells got beat.

[SkinBasket]

God, Kuhn has looked terrible (and by terrible I mean white) sustaining this drive.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ok, that was a ballsy-ass call by MM
AR might have audibled that, but he only talked to the RB. So he may have been faking a run like Manning.
I think that was the play call.

[pbmax]

God, Kuhn has looked terrible (and by terrible I mean white) sustaining this drive.
Works wonders for killing clock and a first down. Nice run John.

[Badgerinmaine]

"and THERE IS YOUR DAGGER!"

[gbgary]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.

[imscott72]

DAGGER

[Tony Oday]

KUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHNNNNNN!!!!!!!

[TravisWilliams23]

How the Hell did they win this game?

I guess it balances out for last Monday night.

[Badgerinmaine]

Got the ball with over 6 minutes left and never let the Lions have the ball back. Nice--but that was one ugly win overall.

[pbmax]

Colledge just blocked Suh off the LOS and out of the play. He had the angle on him so it wasn't a straight win, but once again he does just enough for you to allow him to let you down later.

[Cheesehead Craig]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Hell no. Detroit was out of timeouts. Even if Kuhn doesn't get the first down we can run the clock to like 20 sec

[Fosco33]

Dear Detroit Lions,

Thanks for the gifts all day long. We couldn't have won without you. It was tough giving away the game to Chicago on Monda when we deserved to win - so it's nice to get one back that we really (really) should've lost.

Sincerely,

America's Team

[pbmax]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Sometimes, less clock is better than more yards. They had no TOs left.

[red]

we just got outplayed by the lions

we won but i didn't see a lot to be happy about other then a-rod in the first half and woodson in the second

[mmmdk]

Yeah, dagger.

McNabb will kill us next week in Washington.

[imscott72]

Hard to get excited about this win. We survived, but wow, so many issues to deal with on defense. As far as offense, we need a friggin running game. That game plan will not work against superior opponents.

[pbmax]

Coach intensity lost another game. 0 and 4 to start the season for the 49ers.

[gbgary]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Hell no. Detroit was out of timeouts. Even if Kuhn doesn't get the first down we can run the clock to like 20 sec

and allow a long kick return after the fg and another hail mary to johnson.

[Lurker64]

Wins are good, but man am I looking forward to getting the PUP guys back. Al Harris and Bigby will definitely help this team, and Starks definitely has a chance to.

[Fosco33]

Costly fumble on kick return by titans after a late TD by Broncos... game - Broncos.

[Fosco33]

Can we just forget this game as fans... and hope the coaches make some serious adjustments in approach/style.

[Lurker64]

Also, as bad as this was at times. Being able to run the six minute drill to salt away a victory against a team with a good front 7 when you're losing the TOP battle and you're up by less than a field goal? That's always impressive.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I guess this game proves that an ugly win is better than a pretty loss.

[pbmax]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Hell no. Detroit was out of timeouts. Even if Kuhn doesn't get the first down we can run the clock to like 20 sec

and allow a long first down and another hail mary to johnson.
Same risk with more time if he tries a pass.

[pbmax]

I guess this game proves that an ugly win is better than a pretty loss.
But both taste terrible.

[pbmax]

At least we get to miss Joe Buck.

[mmmdk]

We won but :soap:

[gbgary]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Hell no. Detroit was out of timeouts. Even if Kuhn doesn't get the first down we can run the clock to like 20 sec

and allow a long kick return after the fg and another hail mary to johnson.
Same risk with more time if he tries a pass.

special teams aren't to be trusted and the d was dead tired. i'd have passed but it all worked out ok.

[imscott72]

wow. a third and seven run. stupid call but it worked.
Hell no. Detroit was out of timeouts. Even if Kuhn doesn't get the first down we can run the clock to like 20 sec

and allow a long kick return after the fg and another hail mary to johnson.
Same risk with more time if he tries a pass.

special teams aren't to be trusted and the d was dead tired. i'd have passed but it all worked out ok.

Short week also..

[gbgary]

let's hope the eagles soften up the skins for us.

[denverYooper]

let's hope the eagles soften up the skins for us.

Can't imagine a better way to soften them up by letting them get out to a 14-0 lead.

[gbgary]

AR only had 17 attempts this week compared to 45 last week.

[sheepshead]

I havent read the whole thread but hats off to MM for playing a relatively clean game. Very nice recovery and a nice coaching job. Bottom line I think the Lions are a better team then most think. They are hungry for wins, well coached and have some athletes. I picked them ahead of the bears in the division. Lets get used to one thing I think, the division and maybe the conference is going to be tight all year.

[denverYooper]

I havent read the whole thread but hats off to MM for playing a relatively clean game. Very nice recovery and a nice coaching job. Bottom line I think the Lions are a better team then most think. They are hungry for wins, well coached and have some athletes. I picked them ahead of the bears in the division. Lets get used to one thing I think, the division and maybe the conference is going to be tight all year.

They should have beaten the Bears and have been competitive. I think their offense is ranked close to ours also. I was surprised GB was favored by so much.

[gbgary]

I havent read the whole thread but hats off to MM for playing a relatively clean game. Very nice recovery and a nice coaching job. Bottom line I think the Lions are a better team then most think. They are hungry for wins, well coached and have some athletes. I picked them ahead of the bears in the division. Lets get used to one thing I think, the division and maybe the conference is going to be tight all year.


i didn't like the play calling for the most part. tried to get big chunks instead of first downs. led to turnovers and 3 & outs. the o was killing the d today.

[mission]

AR only had 17 attempts this week compared to 45 last week.

How is that even possible?

I swear -- MM hears critics and comes up with some funny-ass gameplan 'just because'... I have no idea what was going on today.

Let's just run to run.

But Lurker was right. That final drive was nice.

[Bossman641]

AR only had 17 attempts this week compared to 45 last week.

How is that even possible?

I swear -- MM hears critics and comes up with some funny-ass gameplan 'just because'... I have no idea what was going on today.

Let's just run to run.

But Lurker was right. That final drive was nice.

Just run to run? What are you talking about?

They had 21 total rushes with 10 of those coming on the final drive (that includes Rodger's rush and the kneeldown).

[Bossman641]

Arod'a pass attempts were so low because we never had the ball and when we did it was a short field.

[mission]

AR only had 17 attempts this week compared to 45 last week.

How is that even possible?

I swear -- MM hears critics and comes up with some funny-ass gameplan 'just because'... I have no idea what was going on today.

Let's just run to run.

But Lurker was right. That final drive was nice.

Just run to run? What are you talking about?

They had 21 total rushes with 10 of those coming on the final drive (that includes Rodger's rush and the kneeldown).

I feel it was the intention from the get-go to run more than we were expected. Those two runs on 2-<2 come to mind.

Guess my perception is skewed from the complete lack of possession. Seems like we didn't do anything on O today and I attributed that to not very many passing attempts.

[mission]

Arod'a pass attempts were so low because we never had the ball and when we did it was a short field.

you're right

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

[mission]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

we had no answer for anything underneath or in the flats. even i could have thrown for 200 today -- no doubt in my mind.

[gbgary]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

we had no answer for anything underneath or in the flats. even i could have thrown for 200 today -- no doubt in my mind.

i think he was actually a little too aggressive. it left us open to those passes.

[PackerTimer]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

I actually thought they blitzes a little too heavy at times on third down. There were a few times, especially in the first half, that they allowed a third down conversion because they sent the house and had nobody defending the screen. Happened at least twice on third and long.

[mission]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

we had no answer for anything underneath or in the flats. even i could have thrown for 200 today -- no doubt in my mind.

i think he was actually a little too aggressive.

that's what im saying. aggressive to the QB and not to the flats where we were being exploited. you could see it coming every time.

[MJZiggy]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

we had no answer for anything underneath or in the flats. even i could have thrown for 200 today -- no doubt in my mind.

i think he was actually a little too aggressive.

I agree. Everyone came across the line and Hill tossed it right behind them leaving no one to guard that area.

[MJZiggy]

By the way, I like the hot pink towels but I'd like them a lot more if they had the team logos on them. Have that with a pink ribbon and I'd be all over it.

[mission]

Hey if #12 didn't like the game planning (publicly) then you know...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17286/rodgers-not-sold-on-packers-approach

[red]

Hey if #12 didn't like the game planning (publicly) then you know...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17286/rodgers-not-sold-on-packers-approach

that can't be good

[PackerTimer]

Hey if #12 didn't like the game planning (publicly) then you know...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17286/rodgers-not-sold-on-packers-approach

I mostly agree with him. I also thought they went away from what worked so well last week.

[MJZiggy]

Hey if #12 didn't like the game planning (publicly) then you know...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17286/rodgers-not-sold-on-packers-approach

that can't be good

He's right.

[Brandon494]

God, Kuhn has looked terrible (and by terrible I mean white) sustaining this drive.

PJ Hillis looked pretty white today also having another 100 yard rushing game.

[gbgary]

Hey if #12 didn't like the game planning (publicly) then you know...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17286/rodgers-not-sold-on-packers-approach



Rodgers said he thought the Packers should have stayed with what worked for them last week at Soldier Field: Using a spread formation and running quick-timed short- and intermediate pass routes.

kinda goes with what i said below...




I havent read the whole thread but hats off to MM for playing a relatively clean game. Very nice recovery and a nice coaching job. Bottom line I think the Lions are a better team then most think. They are hungry for wins, well coached and have some athletes. I picked them ahead of the bears in the division. Lets get used to one thing I think, the division and maybe the conference is going to be tight all year.


i didn't like the play calling for the most part. tried to get big chunks instead of first downs. led to turnovers and 3 & outs. the o was killing the d today.

[mission]

I swear -- MM hears critics and comes up with some funny-ass gameplan 'just because'... I have no idea what was going on today.

I agree.

[packerbacker1234]

I am not going to fault the defense at all today. When your offense comes out and lays a complete egg in the 2nd half, and the only points scored are off an interception return for a TD... at some point you go "hey, our D is on the field all game... how about some production offense".

Thing is, whatever the hell they did in the 1st half worked fine - but they either went away from it or the Lions adjusted well and we didn't change the plan based on how the game was flowing.

I am all for going more down field with routes and such, but you still need to provide, in the design of those plays, the 8 yard dump offs. Not necessarily design it so say, the rb on a 3 yard dump off is the go to guy, but at least give the option of dumping instead of forcing a 15 yard pass. Grant it, I don't think the gameplan was a direct result for AR's ints.

The one on the deep ball jennings... was either completely under thrown (jennings had him beat over the top for what should be a easy pitch and catch td) or was a complete miscommunciation on where GJ took that route. It was clear immediately after that throw Rodgers was very upset, and I don't know if he was disgusted at GJ for not doing what AR thought he would do, or at himself for under throwing that ball so badly. I can't seem to recall when his other int happened... anyways

The gameplan was meh, but the gameplan doesn't cause you to throw ints unless your down 21 and having to throw deep on every play. The packers ran the ball decently in the first quarter, which opened up a little PA and some passing seems that lead to the 3 td passes in the first half. We then sort of ditched the run in favor of 10 yard passes in the second and then came back to the run on the final drive, where we were able to shove it down their throat to end the game. It was fun watching Kuhn just plow and jump over people on that final drive.

It was.. odd.

AR wants the offense to spread it out more. More 3 and 4 wr sets with dump offs for runs and constantly keeping the playmakers (GJ, DD, and Finely) on the field (It was sad watching some of the 2 wr pass plays with Driver and GJ being purposely sat on the bench. One in particular was odd - they both come off the bench... then get sent back in favor of Nelson and Jones on a play they knew they were passing from in a eye set... very confusing coaching call to bench your two bes wr's in that situation when they were both already on the bench from the previous play)

In the same sense, our offense looked best tonight when we balanced effective running with the pass game, and looked bad when we went away from the run and tried to force it down the field more.

I think you need a happy medium between what AR wants and what worked with us pounding it a tad. Some drives go spread most the way, others try to keep em honest and do some PA passing. Gotta mix that up. Several drives in a row with most routes going deep = bad idea, ESPECIALLY if your not going to let GJ and DD be on the field in those situations. Hell, I saw DD being taken off the field on 3rd and longs for some odd reason. Why? Mr dependle for first down catches... lets take him off.

It's as if the coaching staff sort of laughed and said "this is the lions, watch us drop 50" and it all went wrong. This is ANOTHER reminder that "anyone can beat anyone". The colts got reminded of that today as well.

[Bretsky]

If Desmond Bishop replaces Hawk on passing downs (and plays coverage) for any reason other than death or dismemberment, I will eat my hat, then go to Green Bay and try out for ILB.

LOL, no doubt

this game should be a cake walk, if it's anything but that i'll be upset


We were in trouble right from here

[Pugger]

Also, as bad as this was at times. Being able to run the six minute drill to salt away a victory against a team with a good front 7 when you're losing the TOP battle and you're up by less than a field goal? That's always impressive.

No chit. You guys are forgetting these are not the lions of old. They gave the bares and queens fits already this season. That last drive was a thing of beauty. Everyone knew we were gonna try to run out the clock and by God we did just that. Detroit just couldn't get a stop when the game was on the line. I think it is a GREAT sign when a team plays poorly but finds a way to persevere! It isn't against the law to enjoy a win even if the guys aren't perfect ya know.

[Brando19]

If Desmond Bishop replaces Hawk on passing downs (and plays coverage) for any reason other than death or dismemberment, I will eat my hat, then go to Green Bay and try out for ILB.

LOL, no doubt

this game should be a cake walk, if it's anything but that i'll be upset


We were in trouble right from here


BRETSKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! When did you come back????? You sure have been missed, my friend!

[Bretsky]

If Desmond Bishop replaces Hawk on passing downs (and plays coverage) for any reason other than death or dismemberment, I will eat my hat, then go to Green Bay and try out for ILB.

LOL, no doubt

this game should be a cake walk, if it's anything but that i'll be upset


We were in trouble right from here


BRETSKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! When did you come back????? You sure have been missed, my friend!


Thanks Brando; popped back in yesterday as a tortured myself watching the Badgers lay an egg. Should be around more going forward.
Nice to hear from ya !
Brett

[PackerTimer]

If Desmond Bishop replaces Hawk on passing downs (and plays coverage) for any reason other than death or dismemberment, I will eat my hat, then go to Green Bay and try out for ILB.

LOL, no doubt

this game should be a cake walk, if it's anything but that i'll be upset


We were in trouble right from here


BRETSKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! When did you come back????? You sure have been missed, my friend!


Thanks Brando; popped back in yesterday as a tortured myself watching the Badgers lay an egg. Should be around more going forward.
Nice to hear from ya !
Brett

For a little bit today I thought we might lose two games to the state of Michigan in one weekend. I'm not sure I could have handled that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Mathews was not as dominant this week compared to the other three weeks.

I think Capers had a bad game plan with the 3 man rushes on third and longs. I don't think he was as aggressive enough.

Oh well at least we won.

I actually thought they blitzes a little too heavy at times on third down. There were a few times, especially in the first half, that they allowed a third down conversion because they sent the house and had nobody defending the screen. Happened at least twice on third and long.

+1

[The Leaper]

The startling lack of any credible offensive gameplan is disturbing. McCarthy is delusional into thinking he has a running game, when he does not. He also does not have any credible receiving threat out of the backfield...which only further compounds the problem of having no running game.

This offense is in trouble. The OL is shaky...and without any threat in the running game and without any credible receiving threat out of the backfield, it allows the opposing DL to just pin their ears back and go after Rodgers all day. It eliminates play action...which eliminates Finley's threat over the middle.

Why McCarthy and Thompson can't see that they need something more than a practice squad RB is beyond me. Thompson needed a punter, kick/punt returner, and some RB help going into last offseason...and he failed to deliver on any of them. Thompson isn't the genius some make him out to be. He's good...but he's far from a genius IMO. He still makes glaring personnel mistakes IMO.