OFFICIAL FAVRE SEXT SCANDAL ROCKS SPORTS WORLD

[MJZiggy]

Deanna Favre released a statement today...

Deanna has issued a statement defending her husband: "Those pictures Brett sent to that woman were meant for me. But you know Brett - they were intercepted!"

:lol: :lol:

I hate to sound cynical but I doubt anything will happen to #4 over this incident except maybe a fine at the most for behavior unbecoming.

Behavior unbecoming what? A decent human, an intelligent person, a non-pervert? Do tell! :lol:

I wonder if anyone besides Deanna will remember this in 10 years (apparently about the time Favre predicts he'll need a cane. :roll: )

[Fritz]

Couple things: First, was Roger Goodell at the Notre Dame/Western Michigan game? If so, what the hell is the NFL commish doing at a game like that??

Secondly, the article in the Post was really good. This is what I think is the best line of the article: "Favre's alleged revolting behavior and subsequent tear-filled apology to his teammates for being a "distraction" were as predictable as the quarterback throwing into double coverage late in a game."

True - and hilarious.

[Joemailman]

It's extremely annoying if Favre's streak (?!) ends with a suspension. If he had to get knocked out, I wanted the Packers to do it.

They'll get their chance. NBC will make sure Favre is playing against the Packers on Sunday night.

[pbmax]

It's extremely annoying if Favre's streak (?!) ends with a suspension. If he had to get knocked out, I wanted the Packers to do it.


ya, we tried that last year before he made us his bitch. I'd be fine with a suspension in case he does it again
As the odds of the Packers winning would increase if we faced TJack, normally I would agree. But this is one time I will be happy to see the Packers face someone at full strength.

[Tarlam!]

They'll get their chance. NBC will make sure Favre is playing against the Packers on Sunday night.

Normally, I'd agree wholeheartedly with this, Joe, but isn't America getting bored with Favre? Especially if, dare-I-say, after the Vikings lose today?

[HowardRoark]

Not to state the obvious, but Bert cares nothing but for what is best for him. He sees nothing more than the next 10 minutes of his life at a time and what is best for him during those 10 minutes.

He now beats up Childress to get practice over as soon as possible in the day……it’s bow hunting season you know. While the rest of the sports world ponders his sore arm, he is on the Phenom 100 for the 15 minute flight to Eau Claire for an afternoon of bow hunting as often as he can. Doesn't sound like a guy worrying too much about his arm.

[MJZiggy]

Not to state the obvious, but Bert cares nothing but for what is best for him. He sees nothing more than the next 10 minutes of his life at a time and what is best for him during those 10 minutes.

He now beats up Childress to get practice over as soon as possible in the day……it’s bow hunting season you know. While the rest of the sports world ponders his sore arm, he is on the Phenom 100 for the 15 minute flight to Eau Claire for an afternoon of bow hunting as often as he can. Doesn't sound like a guy worrying too much about his arm.

Doesn't bow hunting require a certain amount of arm strength? I mean I've shot bow and arrow, and it seems to me that an arm too sore to throw a football would have trouble with drawing a bow steadily.

[Tarlam!]

Doesn't bow hunting require a certain amount of arm strength? I mean I've shot bow and arrow, and it seems to me that an arm too sore to throw a football would have trouble with drawing a bow steadily.

Hell yeah it requires strength. I went to the local archery club's open day about 8 years ago and they had some bows that and targets set up for visiters. It's great fun, but the next day, my right arm nearly fell off from the muscle pain. And I only shot maybe 5 arrows!

[Bossman641]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5696210


Sources: Brett Favre declined meeting

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive

Brett Favre's interview with NFL security chief Milt Alherich will come after the Minnesota Vikings quarterback declined an attempt to interview him this past week, according to sources familiar with the league's investigation into allegations that he sent inappropriate text messages to a former Jets employee in 2008.

The league allowed Favre the final option of meeting either Monday or Tuesday in Minneapolis, where the interview with Alherich will take place, the sources said. Alherich served 25 years with the FBI before joining the league as its security chief.

Alherich and his security department have had no success in attempts to interview Jenn Sterger, whom allegedly was the recipient of inappropriate text messages and photos in 2008 when she served as a gameday host when she and Favre were employed by the Jets.

Without Sterger's cooperation, sources say the investigation could hit a dead end as early as this coming week. It is not known what details Favre will provide Alherich. He has not publicly denied the allegations, which were made on Deadspin.com.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will only meet with Favre if the league's investigation provides evidence that the quarterback has possibly violated the league's personal-conduct policy, the sources added.

Favre has been listed as questionable by Minnesota for Sunday's game against Dallas with tendinitis in his right elbow. He has started a record 289 straight games.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

[MJZiggy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5696210


Sources: Brett Favre declined meeting

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive

Brett Favre's interview with NFL security chief Milt Alherich will come after the Minnesota Vikings quarterback declined an attempt to interview him this past week, according to sources familiar with the league's investigation into allegations that he sent inappropriate text messages to a former Jets employee in 2008.

The league allowed Favre the final option of meeting either Monday or Tuesday in Minneapolis, where the interview with Alherich will take place, the sources said. Alherich served 25 years with the FBI before joining the league as its security chief.

Alherich and his security department have had no success in attempts to interview Jenn Sterger, whom allegedly was the recipient of inappropriate text messages and photos in 2008 when she served as a gameday host when she and Favre were employed by the Jets.

Without Sterger's cooperation, sources say the investigation could hit a dead end as early as this coming week. It is not known what details Favre will provide Alherich. He has not publicly denied the allegations, which were made on Deadspin.com.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will only meet with Favre if the league's investigation provides evidence that the quarterback has possibly violated the league's personal-conduct policy, the sources added.

Favre has been listed as questionable by Minnesota for Sunday's game against Dallas with tendinitis in his right elbow. He has started a record 289 straight games.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


If that's true, it should be an instant suspension. If I declined an interview with our ethics or security officers, I wouldn't have a job.

If Jenn Sterger doesn't want to give the images, there are two other women who may just be willing.

[Little Whiskey]

with a compound bow, its not too much. especially if your hunting and not target shooting. you may only pull it back once. with 85 percent letoff, your not holding much weight.

[Bossman641]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5696210


Sources: Brett Favre declined meeting

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive

Brett Favre's interview with NFL security chief Milt Alherich will come after the Minnesota Vikings quarterback declined an attempt to interview him this past week, according to sources familiar with the league's investigation into allegations that he sent inappropriate text messages to a former Jets employee in 2008.

The league allowed Favre the final option of meeting either Monday or Tuesday in Minneapolis, where the interview with Alherich will take place, the sources said. Alherich served 25 years with the FBI before joining the league as its security chief.

Alherich and his security department have had no success in attempts to interview Jenn Sterger, whom allegedly was the recipient of inappropriate text messages and photos in 2008 when she served as a gameday host when she and Favre were employed by the Jets.

Without Sterger's cooperation, sources say the investigation could hit a dead end as early as this coming week. It is not known what details Favre will provide Alherich. He has not publicly denied the allegations, which were made on Deadspin.com.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will only meet with Favre if the league's investigation provides evidence that the quarterback has possibly violated the league's personal-conduct policy, the sources added.

Favre has been listed as questionable by Minnesota for Sunday's game against Dallas with tendinitis in his right elbow. He has started a record 289 straight games.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


If that's true, it should be an instant suspension. If I declined an interview with our ethics or security officers, I wouldn't have a job.

If Jenn Sterger doesn't want to give the images, there are two other women who may just be willing.

Hopefully Favre learns that while he may be able to boss around Childress the same won't work with the NFL front office.

[MJZiggy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5696210


Sources: Brett Favre declined meeting

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive

Brett Favre's interview with NFL security chief Milt Alherich will come after the Minnesota Vikings quarterback declined an attempt to interview him this past week, according to sources familiar with the league's investigation into allegations that he sent inappropriate text messages to a former Jets employee in 2008.

The league allowed Favre the final option of meeting either Monday or Tuesday in Minneapolis, where the interview with Alherich will take place, the sources said. Alherich served 25 years with the FBI before joining the league as its security chief.

Alherich and his security department have had no success in attempts to interview Jenn Sterger, whom allegedly was the recipient of inappropriate text messages and photos in 2008 when she served as a gameday host when she and Favre were employed by the Jets.

Without Sterger's cooperation, sources say the investigation could hit a dead end as early as this coming week. It is not known what details Favre will provide Alherich. He has not publicly denied the allegations, which were made on Deadspin.com.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will only meet with Favre if the league's investigation provides evidence that the quarterback has possibly violated the league's personal-conduct policy, the sources added.

Favre has been listed as questionable by Minnesota for Sunday's game against Dallas with tendinitis in his right elbow. He has started a record 289 straight games.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


If that's true, it should be an instant suspension. If I declined an interview with our ethics or security officers, I wouldn't have a job.

If Jenn Sterger doesn't want to give the images, there are two other women who may just be willing.

Hopefully Favre learns that while he may be able to boss around Childress the same won't work with the NFL front office.

May he learn it the hard way.

[Bretsky]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

[MJZiggy]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

Not once since I heard the second voicemail. Besides, what would a mutual flirtation need an intermediary for?

[mmmdk]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

Nope 'cos I listened to the voicemails.

Bretsky, have it occured to you that you may not "only" dig girls? Just beware that Brett Favre will not, I repeat, WILL NOT give you a reach around while doin' ya :lol:

[mraynrand]

has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

About 15 pages ago. Like I said, It's not surprising that a young hottie would be thrilled to have attention from Favre and not surprising at all if she expoited him to get 'a head' in the world. It doesn't change the 'creepiness' if Favre sent pictures of his weasel. But what's creepy? I'm guessing there's lots of folks who really don't give a shit if Favre did this because they sleep around, send pics, watch porn or skin-a-max, revel in lesbian porn, etc. Hey if we're all doing it - or something close to it - it can't be all that wrong, right? Favre's just a good ol' boy whose a little horny. Just like all the rest of us.

Can we now end this total piece of shit thread?

.

[Patler]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

Honestly, No. The guy sounded like he was begging in the face of a complete refusal.

Favre is likely experiencing what all guys do at one time or another, especially the "playboys" who have their "pick" in many situations in their younger days. At some point you reach an age that some young women find "too old" for what you want. They start thinking of you as that "nice older man" then the "nice old man" then the "old man". :(

[mmmdk]

has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

About 15 pages ago. Like I said, It's not surprising that a young hottie would be thrilled to have attention from Favre and not surprising at all if she expoited him to get 'a head' in the world. It doesn't change the 'creepiness' if Favre sent pictures of his weasel. But what's creepy? I'm guessing there's lots of folks who really don't give a shit if Favre did this because they sleep around, send pics, watch porn or skin-a-max, revel in lesbian porn, etc. Hey if we're all doing it - or something close to it - it can't be all that wrong, right? Favre's just a good ol' boy whose a little horny. Just like all the rest of us.

Can we now end this total piece of shit thread?

.

Well, in France they'd laugh this off pretty quickly. Favre just proved he's a very, very dumb hick with a small dick...in France they eat snails that are bigger :rs:

[MJZiggy]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

Honestly, No. The guy sounded like he was begging in the face of a complete refusal.

Favre is likely experiencing what all guys do at one time or another, especially the "playboys" who have their "pick" in many situations in their younger days. At some point you reach an age that some young women find "too old" for what you want. They start thinking of you as that "nice older man" then the "nice old man" then the "old man". :(

How nice that when that happens to some of them, they look to their wonderful wives and appreciate that she still loves them just as they are. Others are more foolish. Puts Deanna in a weird position, don't you think?

[Patler]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???

Honestly, No. The guy sounded like he was begging in the face of a complete refusal.

Favre is likely experiencing what all guys do at one time or another, especially the "playboys" who have their "pick" in many situations in their younger days. At some point you reach an age that some young women find "too old" for what you want. They start thinking of you as that "nice older man" then the "nice old man" then the "old man". :(

How nice that when that happens to some of them, they look to their wonderful wives and appreciate that she still loves them just as they are. Others are more foolish. Puts Deanna in a weird position, don't you think?

And his daughters. I feel sorry for them as well.

There is another group of men that look at their wives that way from the time they meet. They don't have to wait to get old. I could never figure out why my wife had such poor taste, I'm just glad she did! :lol: :lol:

[3irty1]

Once again this week becomes about rooting for bad things to happen to Favre and the vikings during the week. Can't wait to hear the result of being called to the principle's office this Tuesday.

[Patler]

Just read that Favre is losing a job. Wrangler is pulling his commercials.

[Tarlam!]

Just read that Favre is losing a job. Wrangler is pulling his commercials.

Isn't obvious why? There weren't any wranglers shown in the sext photos, so they're ticked! :lol:

[MJZiggy]

Happy Tuesday, Bert. Enjoy your meeting with the league.

[Fritz]

Wouldn't the Crocs company sign him up right away?

[mraynrand]

At some point you reach an age that some young women find "too old" for what you want. They start thinking of you as that "nice older man" then the "nice old man" then the "old man". :(

When did you turn to the dark side, Patler?

[pbmax]

OK, so I'm back from the Packer game. I went with my wife and two other women (bring on the jokes if you want..lol)

So the subject of Favre came up. By no means are these comments meant to offend.......but...............has anybody ever considered.......

that this gal might have possibly text'd back and forth with Favre and led him on
that this stuff happend to slip out again before her playboy shoot (this was actually per Mike Ditka)

Favre.......no smoothness at all with media or anything he says at all...he's kind of a hick..........anybody really think he just did this w/o any mutual/flirting interest ? Obviously a married guy is not going to keep any texts. I'm not debating he most likely acted like a jag and did plenty of bad stuff

I understand........either way it's wrong...especially the pix.....but come on.......the thoughts have to have crossed your minds, haven't they ???
Bretsky, leave poor old Ditka out of this. The passage of time happens much faster now that he is getting older. He does not understand that the Playboy spread was in 2006, before her job with Sports Illustrated and before the Jets job.

[falco]

Does anybody else find SC's disappearance a little mysterious??

[Joemailman]

Does anybody else find SC's disappearance a little mysterious??

It might have to do with the following exchange:



Madtown is thread crapping, And now he's threatening to have me banned via PM.

I just want to deliver the news and be free of his creepy obsession with me. Maybe he's hell bent on killing this thread - like the other one got killed.I aint fucking with this bitch anymore but dont be making up shit you sorry Mfer. I said test me. So go ahead and find out what it means. Banning will be the least of your concerns.



SC is like the Ed Werder of PackerRats except instead of around the clock news on retirement he provides around the clock news on Favre's lil Brett.

Thanks Scott


My pleasure.

It's nice to see that at least some of you appreciate it. Though it appears that my time here may be coming to a close based on the threat I've received.

I believe this was Scott's last post.

[Freak Out]

He has been banned before if I remember correctly....has anyone checked the Bubbler?

[Tarlam!]

He has been banned before if I remember correctly....has anyone checked the Bubbler?

SC hasn't posted anything to deserve a ban, so his sabatical is likely voluntary. I know his style ticks some posters off at times, but I still think he's a valuable contibutor and I hope he comes back soon.

[Freak Out]

He has been banned before if I remember correctly....has anyone checked the Bubbler?

SC hasn't posted anything to deserve a ban, so his sabatical is likely voluntary. I know his style ticks some posters off at times, but I still think he's a valuable contibutor and I hope he comes back soon.

I agree but it seems like it may have happened.

[Tarlam!]

He has been banned before if I remember correctly....has anyone checked the Bubbler?

SC hasn't posted anything to deserve a ban, so his sabatical is likely voluntary. I know his style ticks some posters off at times, but I still think he's a valuable contibutor and I hope he comes back soon.

I agree but it seems like it may have happened.

I was careful to use the word "posted". If he had a PM flare up with the Admin, we obviously would't be privvy to that.

I sent him a PM or two, before he went AWOL. The last one he didn't reply to. But he must have read it, because it's in my sent box. So, I dunno.

Hope he isn't banned and comes back.

[Administrator]

Scott Campbell is not banned. We did havea PM conversation recently over the exchange that Joemailman posted, but it didn't end badly and I assured him, as I will everyone else, that all madtown can do is complain. I'm the only one who can take any action against a poster at this time.

I'm sure he'll be back when time permits.

[Noodle]

Thanks for the update re SC. And thanks for not banning him.

I've felt his bite, but I had to admit that he was hilarious, even when he was kicking my arse. He is without question one of the funniest posters on the internets.

And this is the Farvealicious moment for which he was born.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

[ThunderDan]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

What are you talking about!!! :lol:

Amazing how every one of the Favre clan came to BFs defense in the GB breakup but all are amazingly quiet now.

[Scott Campbell]

Thanks for the update re SC. And thanks for not banning him.





I wasn't banned. I was asked to back off Woody. And I'm complying.


I really appreciate everybody's support. I know it's hard to take me too seriously, but I'm being sincere (just this one time).

[MJZiggy]

I know it's hard to take me too seriously, but I'm being sincere (just this one time).

Well knock it off! This is the funniest thing to happen in the Favre camp since I don't know when. Woody needs to buck up (no pun intended) and either be able to read this stuff without flaking out or not read the threads about it. There are only 2 after all. I think he's got train wreck syndrome. Can't not look, but can't leave it alone when he does. :shock:

[mission]

Thanks for the update re SC. And thanks for not banning him.





I wasn't banned. I was asked to back off Woody. And I'm complying.


I really appreciate everybody's support. I know it's hard to take me too seriously, but I'm being sincere (just this one time).

Ok, there you are. I was getting upset thinking that you got banned. :lol:

[Fritz]

I was afeared that Mad had gone after SC and the FBI was going to end up interviewing all of us. And I didn't want my mad obsession with Drew Barrymore to come out in the wash.

So that's why I'm glad SC's back.

[Tarlam!]

I wasn't banned. I was asked to back off Woody. And I'm complying.

Why do you always get all the credit?

[Tarlam!]

I think he's got train wreck syndrome. Can't not look, but can't leave it alone when he does. :shock:

BOMNF!

[get louder at lambeau]

Scott Campbell is not banned. We did havea PM conversation recently over the exchange that Joemailman posted, but it didn't end badly and I assured him, as I will everyone else, that all madtown can do is complain. I'm the only one who can take any action against a poster at this time.

I'm sure he'll be back when time permits.

Madtown, did you tattle?

[mmmdk]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

Spot on! :D

Deanna is religulous.

[mmmdk]

Thanks for the update re SC. And thanks for not banning him.





I wasn't banned. I was asked to back off Woody. And I'm complying.


I really appreciate everybody's support. I know it's hard to take me too seriously, but I'm being sincere (just this one time).

Now you tell me; what to do with all the banners & Tees with "Bring back Scotty, man"? :D

[DannoMac21]

:lol: :lol:

I just spent my past 45 minutes looking at this thread. Unbelievable.

Woodbuck is absolutely insane! And I'm not saying that literally, I'm just saying DAMN the guy has a lot of passion, but is so far off base with his arguments that it's hilarious. Not to mention his posts are so long and the words he uses are so unique! Good shit!

[MJZiggy]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

Didn't she handle it through faith when he was drinking, hooked on vic, and cheating on her before? Maybe she should try handling it by frying pan instead. Might be more effective.

[mmmdk]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

Didn't she handle it through faith when he was drinking, hooked on vic, and cheating on her before? Maybe she should try handling it by frying pan instead. Might be more effective.

LOL :lol:

Reciting holy books are for dummies or jerks who hijack planes.

[3irty1]

In real news, Deanna was on goodmorning America this morning. She didn't spill too many beans but used the word "I" a lot in lieu of the word "we" and said that her faith was getting her through this struggle.

[Bossman641]

:lol: :lol:

I just spent my past 45 minutes looking at this thread. Unbelievable.

Woodbuck is absolutely insane! And I'm not saying that literally, I'm just saying DAMN the guy has a lot of passion, but is so far off base with his arguments that it's hilarious. Not to mention his posts are so long and the words he uses are so unique! Good shit!

45 minutes? Was that one of WB's posts or two?

Just kidding WB, I appreciate your contributions.

[Tarlam!]

Goodell says NFL looking at 'workplace conduct' in Favre probe


NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told fans in an NFL.com chat that "workplace conduct" is the main focus of the league's investigation into allegations of improper behavior by Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre.

Goodell said Thursday that the Favre situation is being treated seriously while facts in the case are being gathered. The commissioner's response came after one participant in the session argued that players haven't been given "fair warning in the area of workplace conduct with women around."

"Each of these cases are looked at individually, and we have to be thorough and fair," Goodell said. "We also are working hard on the development of our workplace-conduct training program for all teams. We are working with experts in the field and expect to roll it out to our teams by the end of the season.

Brett Favre declined Wednesday to discuss allegations that he sent suggestive messages and lewd photos to a female New York Jets employee in 2008, when the quarterback played for the team.

"That's a league issue that I just have to leave at that," said Favre, who met with NFL vice president for security Milt Ahlerich on Tuesday in Minnesota.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81b843f4/article/goodell-says-nfl-looking-at-workplace-conduct-in-favre-probe

[Fritz]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

Didn't she handle it through faith when he was drinking, hooked on vic, and cheating on her before? Maybe she should try handling it by frying pan instead. Might be more effective.

She needs to have more faith in her frying pan.

BTW, if she's talking about handling "it" with faith, then to me it sounds like she thinks the allegations are true, and not that he's being treated unfairly. Cuz last time she felt her husband was being treated unfairly, that family used their faith in the media to strike back, hard, against the person/organization they felt had abused Brent.

I don't feel sorry for her, though. I feel badly for her, but not sorry. She's not a victim.

[Tarlam!]

I don't feel sorry for her, though. I feel badly for her, but not sorry. She's not a victim.

I don't necessarily agree. I pity her and the daughters especially. I think the additional public attention for the alleged ( :lol: ) conduct of Brent has victimized them to a degree.

[RashanGary]

Dianna likes her lifestyle. She'll share her Brent with some big-boobed hoes if it means her lifestyle stays in tact. Trying to hook up with Sterger wasn't cheating, it was a tribute to Dianna.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/01/01/gal_sterger-6.jpg


Oh, the wonderful Favre family. To the other evil men who cheat on their wives, burn in hell you mother f*ckers. Brent, you are a hero. Thank you for your tributes to your wife. That's not abusive, disgusting behavior. That's just you being wonderful you.

Thanks Bert! You're our favorite woman abuser!

[hoosier]

I don't feel sorry for her, though. I feel badly for her, but not sorry. She's not a victim.

I don't necessarily agree. I pity her and the daughters especially. I think the additional public attention for the alleged ( :lol: ) conduct of Brent has victimized them to a degree.

I agree with Fritz that Deanna is not a victim, both because she doesn't have a victim mentality and because she knew exactly what she was getting when she married Bert (or, if not then, at least the last time she let him back in the house). So in fact she's not a victim twice over. The kids are a different matter, they had no say in the matter. And think about this: if the definition of a teenager is someone who is embarrassed to be seen with his or her parents, what must Favre's kids be going through right now? :lol:

[Tarlam!]

Yeah, she knew he was a womanizer in his twens, but this incident happened when he was 38. Let's say she hasn't caught him since back in the day - hey, it's possible, right, then she believes her world is in order and he's a family guy.

Maybe she's not a victim, but, unless she knew he was AWOL regularly, even sporadically, she has my pity.

[AtlPackFan]

Deanna was on Good Morning America and wouldn't say if the allegations are true or false. She's just "handling this through faith", which is the same thing we hear from the politicians when they get busted with hookers or in airport bathrooms looking for sex.

This lack of denial coming from the Favre camp when they were so willing to speak up when they wanted out of Green Bay is so telling.

He's guilty and they know it.

Didn't she handle it through faith when he was drinking, hooked on vic, and cheating on her before? Maybe she should try handling it by frying pan instead. Might be more effective.

She's handling it? I thought Deanna was done handling it because of all the other women who had handled it? :wink:

[Fritz]

Yeah, she knew he was a womanizer in his twens, but this incident happened when he was 38. Let's say she hasn't caught him since back in the day - hey, it's possible, right, then she believes her world is in order and he's a family guy.

Maybe she's not a victim, but, unless she knew he was AWOL regularly, even sporadically, she has my pity.

I'm probably being more specific with my definition of the word "victim" than you are. To me, victims are people that don't have choices: kids born with aids or born addicted to crack. People who work hard and do all the right things and follow the rules and still get the house foreclosed on.

But Deanna's not a victim. She has choices about being with Brent or not. She keeps choosing to stay with the guy. She's no victim and I feel badly that she's in the public eye about what really ought to be (and even this could be argued) a private matter, but she is choosing to be where she is.

[HowardRoark]

LOL :lol:

Reciting holy books are for dummies or jerks who hijack planes.

I think you meant "is for dummies...."

Why do you think this?

[mmmdk]

LOL :lol:

Reciting holy books are for dummies or jerks who hijack planes.

I think you meant "is for dummies...."

Why do you think this?

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

[sharpe1027]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

[mmmdk]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

[Fritz]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

"Reciting holy books are for dummies or jerks who hijack planes."

Okay. The verb in this sentence is "are." What is the subject? That is, what "are for dummies or jerks"? The writer seems to be saying that it is not the holy books that are for dummies or jerks, it is the reciting of them. Thus, "reciting" is the subject of the sentence.

And you are correct - it is singular. Just as it seems odd to say or write "Writing are for dumb people," it are odd to say or write that "Reciting are for dummies or jerks."

[mmmdk]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

"Reciting holy books are for dummies or jerks who hijack planes."

Okay. The verb in this sentence is "are." What is the subject? That is, what "are for dummies or jerks"? The writer seems to be saying that it is not the holy books that are for dummies or jerks, it is the reciting of them. Thus, "reciting" is the subject of the sentence.

And you are correct - it is singular. Just as it seems odd to say or write "Writing are for dumb people," it are odd to say or write that "Reciting are for dummies or jerks."

Thank you. I've learned something today which is a good thing - can't say the same for those with a religious agenda.

Lastly, is "religulous" even a word? Should be! :lol:

[HowardRoark]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

[mmmdk]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

[HowardRoark]

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

Why do you consider yourself rational?

[HowardRoark]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

Are you attacking religion?

[mmmdk]

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

Why do you consider yourself rational?

Don't beat around the bush, bring jesus with you into the yard.

[mmmdk]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

Are you attacking religion?

Are you drunk?

[HowardRoark]

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

Why do you consider yourself rational?

Don't beat around the bush, bring jesus with you into the yard.

Do you consider that to be rational?

[HowardRoark]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

Are you attacking religion?

Are you drunk?

Do you think I am drunk?

[mmmdk]

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

Why do you consider yourself rational?

Don't beat around the bush, bring jesus with you into the yard.

Do you consider that to be rational?

It would be an insult to a religious person or so I figured.

[HowardRoark]

I don't claim to have the truth like religious people do but be aware of that us rational people aren't going to listen to the ludicrous gospels for much longer or the babel on Deanna's fridge.

Why do you consider yourself rational?

Don't beat around the bush, bring jesus with you into the yard.

Do you consider that to be rational?

It would be an insult to a religious person or so I figured.

Who told you that it would be an insult to a religious person?

[mmmdk]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

Are you attacking religion?

Are you drunk?

Do you think I am drunk?

You are an asshole and I'm going to say "fuck off" nicely. Be gone little redneck. I've been checking posts and I do not want to be associated with your kind nor do I wish to continue your Q game.

[HowardRoark]

No, it's "are" - I said HOLY BOOKS.


I think that you used "books" as a the object of the gerund "reciting." Since "reciting" is singular, I think it should be "is." Anyone an English major? :lol:

Hmm - could be, not sure that I wasn't right. I ran it through a grammar checker but I don't know how reliable they are. I think one must look at "reciting holy books" as an plural act though.

I think this should be "....as a plural act though."

Sure! But it's about me attacking religion right? Get out of your fucking bible class and meet me in the yard. :evil:

Are you attacking religion?

Are you drunk?

Do you think I am drunk?

You are an asshole and I'm going to say "fuck off" nicely. Be gone little redneck. I've been checking posts and I do not want to be associated with your kind nor do I wish to continue your Q game.

Why don't you like questions?

[mmmdk]

[quote] Why don't you like questions?

I do not like you.

[HowardRoark]

[quote] Why don't you like questions?

I do not like you.

Why don't you like me?

[mmmdk]

Listen, Howard! You can pm me and we can continue there?

I'll bet on that you won't because this is where you like to play your games. It wouldn't be fun as there would not be an audience.

This is off topic and I do not believe that it is interesting reading for anyone.

Last post from me, Howie - pm if you want to talk.

I'll give you 10 minutes and then I sign off for today.

[HowardRoark]

Listen, Howard! You can pm me and we can continue there?

I'll bet on that you won't because this is where you like to play your games. It wouldn't be fun as there would not be an audience.

This is off topic and I do not believe that it is interesting reading for anyone.

Last post from me, Howie - pm if you want to talk.

I'll give you 2 minutes and then I sign off for today.

Thanks for answering my simple questions concerning your assertions.

[mmmdk]

Listen, Howard! You can pm me and we can continue there?

I'll bet on that you won't because this is where you like to play your games. It wouldn't be fun as there would not be an audience.

This is off topic and I do not believe that it is interesting reading for anyone.

Last post from me, Howie - pm if you want to talk.

I'll give you 2 minutes and then I sign off for today.

Thanks for answering my simple questions concerning your assertions.

Your time is up, H! No pm came.

Be cautious in making assertions.

I'll be back on sunday for vikings game and you can continue your tedious heckling at that exact point in time. You have absolutely no funny bones - none!

[HowardRoark]

Listen, Howard! You can pm me and we can continue there?

I'll bet on that you won't because this is where you like to play your games. It wouldn't be fun as there would not be an audience.

This is off topic and I do not believe that it is interesting reading for anyone.

Last post from me, Howie - pm if you want to talk.

I'll give you 2 minutes and then I sign off for today.

Thanks for answering my simple questions concerning your assertions.

Your time is up, H! No pm came.

Be cautious in making assertions.

I'll be back on sunday for vikings game and you can continue your tedious heckling at that exact point in time. You have absolutely no funny bones - none!

Have a good weekend.

[Tarlam!]

So, any more revelations about the Favre sexting?

[sheepshead]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c868b6210/bret-favre-dickholes?ref=nf

[Fritz]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

[MJZiggy]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

It's just a guy porn thing. Seriously.

[get louder at lambeau]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

It's just a guy porn thing. Seriously.

You both spelled gay wrong.

[MJZiggy]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

It's just a guy porn thing. Seriously.

You both spelled gay wrong.

My apologies.

[HowardRoark]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

[ThunderDan]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

Unfortunate that you and I believe in hell!!! Someone is missing their best friend Howard. His name is Beelzbub. :lol: :lol:

[MJZiggy]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c868b6210/bret-favre-dickholes?ref=nf

That's so obviously not him. The dick is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too big for that. (now that we all know)

[Freak Out]

This thread is the shizzle fer wizzle sizzle baby.

[HowardRoark]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c868b6210/bret-favre-dickholes?ref=nf

That's so obviously not him. The dick is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too big for that. (now that we all know)

This one's for you Ziggy. FrameMakers...located a few blocks down the road from Lambeau Field.

http://yfrog.com/f/nedhzej/

[mmmdk]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

[Tarlam!]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

I suggest a PackerRats Group Hug

[MJZiggy]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c868b6210/bret-favre-dickholes?ref=nf

That's so obviously not him. The dick is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too big for that. (now that we all know)

This one's for you Ziggy. FrameMakers...located a few blocks down the road from Lambeau Field.

http://yfrog.com/f/nedhzej/

I would pitch in money to duplicate that on billboards in Minny and in Miss... :lol:

[MJZiggy]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

I suggest a PackerRats Group Hug :hug:

[AtlPackFan]

Report: NFL wants proof of Favre photos
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Brett-Favre-Jenn-Sterger-investigation-on-hold-102210


Sterger, NFL to talk? Favre investigation still ongoing
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jenn-Sterger-considering-talking-to-NFL-about-Favre-photo-scandal-102210


IMHO, this isn't going anywhere. The "investigation" will drag on until its old news, nothing will happen and Favre will eventually get off (no pun intended :wink: ).

[HowardRoark]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

I suggest a PackerRats Group Hug

Only if you bring Pink roasted medallions of venison served with pasta and chanterelle Mushroom millefeuille with a thyme sauce and some gooey Valrohna chocolate tart infused with two kinds of Mocha for dessert.

Or, just bring some wienerschnitzel and a few Stiegls.

[sheepshead]

One thing is certain. He did it. There is no denial from the Favre camp.

[HowardRoark]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

No problem. Apology accepted.

[MJZiggy]

Report: NFL wants proof of Favre photos
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Brett-Favre-Jenn-Sterger-investigation-on-hold-102210


Sterger, NFL to talk? Favre investigation still ongoing
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jenn-Sterger-considering-talking-to-NFL-about-Favre-photo-scandal-102210


IMHO, this isn't going anywhere. The "investigation" will drag on until its old news, nothing will happen and Favre will eventually get off (no pun intended :wink: ).


I'm sure from his perspective, all they have to do is drag it out until the end of the season and then he'll retire and they can't do anything to him then anyway.

[LP]

Favre will eventually get off

Which is what he wanted in the first place.

That Brent, always gets his way! :roll:

[Fritz]

One thing is certain. He did it. There is no denial from the Favre camp.

This could be an interesting development. I mean, couldn't the Favre camp argue that the NFL would have to prove that the penis in question is, indeed, that of Mr. Favre? Can the league do some CSI techno stuff and zoom in on the penis in the pictures, doing a 3-D rendering with coordinates and all that shit?

Then have Favre come in for an examination so that there can be a clear comparison and thus establish, once and for all, if the penis in question is that of #4?

Geez, who's coordinating that investigation? And can you imagine the meetings the NFL must be having over this? Did George Halas ever think the NFL would someday be investigating its players' penises?

As the Wicked Witch said, "Oh, what a world, what a world!"

[Tarlam!]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81b8877c/article/nfl-still-investigating-favre-exjets-employee-could-cooperate?module=HP_headlines

NFL still investigating Favre; ex-Jets employee could cooperate


Sterger has not commented on the allegations, which were posted on website Deadspin. The site said Sterger would not agree to an interview and it paid a third party for the texts, voicemails and graphic photos, said to be of Favre, that it posted in a video.

Reese said that Sterger, now a TV personality for the Versus network, also has had no discussions with Favre representatives about a possible financial settlement stemming from the allegations.

Haaa! This has to be a joke, right?

[Tarlam!]

Can the league do some CSI techno stuff and zoom in on the penis in the pictures, doing a 3-D rendering with coordinates and all that shit?


I know you're being sarcastic, but it's not a question of possession. If I were Brent, I'd be saying it was a gift of art and peotry, the beauty of which is in the eye of the beholder. See, I can do sarcasm! 8-)

[AtlPackFan]

One thing is certain. He did it. There is no denial from the Favre camp.

This could be an interesting development. I mean, couldn't the Favre camp argue that the NFL would have to prove that the penis in question is, indeed, that of Mr. Favre?

Porky's!!! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIcSuyZjjIM

[sheepshead]

One thing is certain. He did it. There is no denial from the Favre camp.

This could be an interesting development. I mean, couldn't the Favre camp argue that the NFL would have to prove that the penis in question is, indeed, that of Mr. Favre? Can the league do some CSI techno stuff and zoom in on the penis in the pictures, doing a 3-D rendering with coordinates and all that shit?

Then have Favre come in for an examination so that there can be a clear comparison and thus establish, once and for all, if the penis in question is that of #4?

Geez, who's coordinating that investigation? And can you imagine the meetings the NFL must be having over this? Did George Halas ever think the NFL would someday be investigating its players' penises?

As the Wicked Witch said, "Oh, what a world, what a world!"

Or just subpoena Verizon for their cell phone records.

[Fritz]

Favre could then argue someone stole his phone, sent pictures of a penis NOT belonging to Brent, then slipped the phone back with Favre never knowing it was gone!

[sheepshead]

Favre could then argue someone stole his phone, sent pictures of a penis NOT belonging to Brent, then slipped the phone back with Favre never knowing it was gone!

Sure, but in what 3 weeks or so he hasn't even denied it. Its him.

[pbmax]

Thank you Brett for once again proving that all internet message board posters have more game with women than NFL QBs. If only we have the wallet to back it up.

I think it would be hilarious if Brett was told this would be a good idea by someone. That in this day and age, to flirt with a young women meant you need to sext.

And I look forward to the remake of North Dallas Forty, where this scene will play prominently. Who will give him the joke advice? Revis? Clemens? D'Brickashaw? Faneca?

[mmmdk]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

I suggest a PackerRats Group Hug

Only if you bring Pink roasted medallions of venison served with pasta and chanterelle Mushroom millefeuille with a thyme sauce and some gooey Valrohna chocolate tart infused with two kinds of Mocha for dessert.

Or, just bring some wienerschnitzel and a few Stiegls.

You know your food. Valrohna is for gods (no pun intended) :D

Good taste in food goes a long way in my book (still no pun intended).

Have you lived in Europe? Sure sounds like it.

[mmmdk]

Listen, both mmm and Howard are good posters. Howard's just messing with you a little, mm. You guys are both awesome.

So how about that Brent Favre sending pics of his croc(s)?

Honestly, is there any record anywhere in the history of the world of a woman being seduced by the picture of a man's penis, or is that just a guy porn thing? Seriously.

Thanks Fritz.

I have no problem with mmdk whatsoever; I am impressed with the guy for his determination to watch Packer games at the crazy hours he does over in Europe. I was just trying to hear a little more about his strong statements. I was expecting some sort of dialogue; he seemed pretty confident in the foolishness and irrationalness of Christians as well as his ability to see things rationally. I may be a red neck dummie in his eyes, but from my vantage point, he was the one pushing an agenda; and not very well.

I'm not perfect and I admit that I can be an online hothead at times. Please, H, accept my sincere apology. We can talk religion in another thread but not during Viking week.

No problem. Apology accepted.

Thank you!

[Tony Oday]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!

[Bretsky]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

[Tony Oday]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

lol awesome...if he pays he admits guilt then its time to be suspended.

[gex]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!
Hmm...publics turning........

TLaMana
10/23/2010 11:50:51 AMAll you need to know about the motivations behind this mess is this quote from the article:
"Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre."
Another gold digger pure and simple.

TouchdownMONKEY
10/23/2010 11:47:12 AMI don't even like Farve, but really who cares? Maybe his wife? This has nothing to do with football. Why is the NFL investigating this? They should be investigating how there new rules is screwing up the game.

scoobee1
10/23/2010 11:35:44 AMThey are two consenting adults so this shouldn't even be an issue. The only person who has a legitimate complaint is Favre's wife. Sterger is a money grubbing whore. I am sure there are plenty of men who she has gladly given booty to get where she is today. Perhaps if she was better with her finances she wouldn't need to extort Favre over texts that happened a year or more ago

Stuckee
10/23/2010 11:39:01 AMWhy wait 2 years to break this story? Why didn't she report it the day, or week it happened? And the ONE QUESTION I've yet to see be asked, is how did Favre get her phone number? If she had no interest in Brett, then maybe she shouldn't have let him know her number, ya think?

[Bretsky]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?




lol awesome...if he pays he admits guilt then its time to be suspended.



in our yes, that would be true; but in the eyes of proof paying to shut somebody up does not.

I'm not going to defend Favre's character one bit. Douchebag is the best description I can come up with and I say that as a married individual who would expect people to be true to their spouse. I would not call her a gold doigger becaue I don't know the whole situation well eough. But in my mind I continue to doubt all the flirtations only came from one side

[mmmdk]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre still did it; remember that "the pursuit of happiness" was originally "the pursuit of money" but the former words of wisdom won the battle and hence become the ink on a rather significant parchment.

Can you blame her? Sure but if it makes her happy...

[Bretsky]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre still did it; remember that "the persuit of happiness" was originally "the persuit of money" but the former words of wisdom won the battle and hence become the ink on a rather significant parchment.

Can you blame her? Sure but if it makes her happy...

Doubt anybody thinks he's innocent

[Tarlam!]

Doubt anybody thinks he's innocent

So do I; wait! There's this dude in Canada....

[mmmdk]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre still did it; remember that "the pursuit of happiness" was originally "the pursuit of money" but the former words of wisdom won the battle and hence become the ink on a rather significant parchment.

Can you blame her? Sure but if it makes her happy...

Doubt anybody thinks he's innocent

Okey dokey!

[pbmax]

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_16410340?nclick_check=1

I do not understand the article. Its says the Pioneer Press has learned something and then makes a statement that is a tautology. My elderly neighbor could have told them this.

If they reach an agreement, of course, she would not talk. He isn't handing over money unless she agree to forgo other legal action and forgo testifying in any manner. So what did the Pioneer Press learn?

This statement was true the day the store broke and is true now. Are they trying to intimate that she is open to a deal? Or that Favre is open to a deal? They haven't advanced the story in any direction.

Its got to be a plant from one side or the other, indicating like a white flag that someone is looking to bail out and do a deal. But the Pioneer Press is closer to Favre than to Sterger, unless it was a call out of the blue.

[Joemailman]

PB,

I have come to the conclusion that their source is your elderly neighbor.

Edit:

Sterger is either leaning toward talking to league officials, or is trying to pressure Favre to show the money.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-10/favre-scandal

[denverYooper]

Favre admitted to leaving voice mails but not sending pictures:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/105628788.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUz33Dii_9PmP:Qi_17cQ iU47cQU17cQ_bDaEP7U

[pbmax]

Since the voice mail and pics came from the same number, this will be a fascinating story.

What did Brett's dong know and when did he(it) know it?

[pbmax]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!
Hmm...publics turning........

TLaMana
10/23/2010 11:50:51 AMAll you need to know about the motivations behind this mess is this quote from the article:
"Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre."
Another gold digger pure and simple.

TouchdownMONKEY
10/23/2010 11:47:12 AMI don't even like Favre, but really who cares? Maybe his wife? This has nothing to do with football. Why is the NFL investigating this? They should be investigating how there new rules is screwing up the game.

scoobee1
10/23/2010 11:35:44 AMThey are two consenting adults so this shouldn't even be an issue. The only person who has a legitimate complaint is Favre's wife. Sterger is a money grubbing whore. I am sure there are plenty of men who she has gladly given booty to get where she is today. Perhaps if she was better with her finances she wouldn't need to extort Favre over texts that happened a year or more ago

Stuckee
10/23/2010 11:39:01 AMWhy wait 2 years to break this story? Why didn't she report it the day, or week it happened? And the ONE QUESTION I've yet to see be asked, is how did Favre get her phone number? If she had no interest in Brett, then maybe she shouldn't have let him know her number, ya think?
Wisdom of the crowd fails again.

[pbmax]

Partial denial about settlement talks. Of course, no one has said there have been settlement talks. I wish the reporters would get on the same page. From the Yahoo story about Glazer's report:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgCv6S8I4PrcRYfcJInJ_L05nYcB?slug=ap-favreinvestigation


The NFL is investigating a Deadspin report earlier this month that Favre sent the racy photos to Sterger two years ago. Sterger, now an on-air personality for Versus, has not cooperated with the league yet, but her manager, Phil Reese, told The Associated Press on Sunday that could happen quickly.

“She is strongly considering it, leaning toward it,” Reese said.

Asked if Favre admitted leaving the voicemails for Sterger, but denied sending any photos, Reese added:

“We’re currently in the fact-gathering stage; all I’m doing is dealing with facts. Unfortunately the person in the pictures didn’t also hold up their driver’s license, so I’m not going to speculate as far as identity. But I’m working with people to diligently get all the facts.”

Reese also has said that Sterger has had no discussions with Favre’s representatives about a possible financial settlement stemming from the allegations.

[Brando19]

I have no idea how, with all this controversy going on, Favre still has time to make new commercials!!!!!!

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/brett-favre-wrangler-commercial/1255771/

[channtheman]

Favre admitted to the voice mails but denied sending pictures of his penis to Sterger. Favre was heard saying "My dick isn't that big."

[mmmdk]

Favre admitted to the voice mails but denied sending pictures of his penis to Sterger. Favre was heard saying "My dick isn't that big."

Favre: "I'm not even with the Peckers any more".

[RashanGary]

Do you think those pictures are really Favre's dick? I was on deadspin and I saw something I never wanted to see, well allegedly anyway.

[3irty1]

He's quite the scumbag. Sounds like he may not have been thorough enough with his bribes. Investigations are still going.

[MJZiggy]

He's quite the scumbag. Sounds like he may not have been thorough enough with his bribes. Investigations are still going.

Well he already admitted to the voicemails, but of course not the pics which just happen to have come from the same number.

[sheepshead]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/heymike0308/image002.jpg

[Bossman641]

Where is Scott? If anybody should have enjoyed that game last night it was him. Come back SC.

[mission]

Or where is Woody? I hope he's ok with the Packers beating the Vikings. That's gotta be tough on him.

[bobblehead]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre still did it; remember that "the pursuit of happiness" was originally "the pursuit of money" but the former words of wisdom won the battle and hence become the ink on a rather significant parchment.

Can you blame her? Sure but if it makes her happy...

Actually it was pursuit of property, but same idea.

[woodbuck27]

Report: NFL wants proof of Favre photos
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Brett-Favre-Jenn-Sterger-investigation-on-hold-102210


Sterger, NFL to talk? Favre investigation still ongoing
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jenn-Sterger-considering-talking-to-NFL-about-Favre-photo-scandal-102210


IMHO, this isn't going anywhere. The "investigation" will drag on until its old news, nothing will happen and Favre will eventually get off (no pun intended :wink: ).


I'm sure from his perspective, all they have to do is drag it out until the end of the season and then he'll retire and they can't do anything to him then anyway.

and... Not picking on you MJ but as one of 'the MOST Moral Society' at Packerrats I know you will handle it.

'' Water off a ducks back.'' MJ

I think I get it!?

YOU would prefer ' Tar and Feathers ' or maybe, get ' ALL IN ' ! Get things really toasty with a good old fashioned ' Burning at the Stake '? Good grief it's 2010 not sometime back in the 1600's.

Anyone ! Ever discover the overwhelming personal negative effects as a result of a condition known as ' Male .... Mid Life Crisis '? Are American males immune to that?

Ohh .... that doesn't apply to you MJ. Being a woman, exempts you from all reproach. Clearly that's correct so judge away MJ. It's gotten so foolish that now it's only amusing to me. :lol: What's it like to live such a perfect life MJ? Anyone else?

The man gets to honest and some high and mighty, above all approach in their lives football fans, still need to judge. Amazing stuff...hahaaha.

I'm content to just feel my position in all modesty is 'the Canadian Way' in terelated to a sense of what's deemed fair. The better way? We're as a Nation taught that noone is declared guilty until proven such. Even then it must come down to some proper authority handing out the penalty. Not any... I'm above all blame hypocritical accusers ruled by too much emotion over the use of a healthy and fairly reasoned intellect.

a) Burn Favre at the stake. b)Tar and feather him. c)Ban him from the NFL Hall of Fame. d) Crucify him.

ALL OF THE ABOVE. Cast your judgements. :lol:

[woodbuck27]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre isn't paying her a penny. What did she ever do for him? :lol:

[woodbuck27]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/favre-made-another-call-to-sterger-102310

Favre is a multimillionaire and famous...but that doesnt buy you game!


A report in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, however, said Sterger would decline to talk to football officials if she reached a financial settlement with Favre.



anybody surprised ?

Favre still did it; remember that "the persuit of happiness" was originally "the persuit of money" but the former words of wisdom won the battle and hence become the ink on a rather significant parchment.

Can you blame her? Sure but if it makes her happy...

Doubt anybody thinks he's innocent

No he's not innoscent of stupidity. He might have just kept his yap shut. Any honesty won't lessen the heat of public judgement and that shouldn't bother him even a wee bit. :idea:

[mission]

Do you think those pictures are really Favre's dick? I was on deadspin and I saw something I never wanted to see, well allegedly anyway.

That's strange. I was on deadspin and had an option of seeing something I never wanted to see -- so I decided not to see it.

:lol:

[hoosier]

Report: NFL wants proof of Favre photos
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Brett-Favre-Jenn-Sterger-investigation-on-hold-102210


Sterger, NFL to talk? Favre investigation still ongoing
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jenn-Sterger-considering-talking-to-NFL-about-Favre-photo-scandal-102210


IMHO, this isn't going anywhere. The "investigation" will drag on until its old news, nothing will happen and Favre will eventually get off (no pun intended :wink: ).


I'm sure from his perspective, all they have to do is drag it out until the end of the season and then he'll retire and they can't do anything to him then anyway.

and... Not picking on you MJ but as one of 'the MOST Moral Society' at Packerrats I know you will handle it.

'' Water off a ducks back.'' MJ

I think I get it!?

YOU would prefer ' Tar and Feathers ' or maybe, get ' ALL IN ' ! Get things really toasty with a good old fashioned ' Burning at the Stake '? Good grief it's 2010 not sometime back in the 1600's.

Anyone ! Ever discover the overwhelming personal negative effects as a result of a condition known as ' Male .... Mid Life Crisis '? Are American males immune to that?

Ohh .... that doesn't apply to you MJ. Being a woman, exempts you from all reproach. Clearly that's correct so judge away MJ. It's gotten so foolish that now it's only amusing to me. :lol: What's it like to live such a perfect life MJ? Anyone else?

The man gets to honest and some high and mighty, above all approach in their lives football fans, still need to judge. Amazing stuff...hahaaha.

I'm content to just feel my position in all modesty is 'the Canadian Way' in terelated to a sense of what's deemed fair. The better way? We're as a Nation taught that noone is declared guilty until proven such. Even then it must come down to some proper authority handing out the penalty. Not any... I'm above all blame hypocritical accusers ruled by too much emotion over the use of a healthy and fairly reasoned intellect.

a) Burn Favre at the stake. b)Tar and feather him. c)Ban him from the NFL Hall of Fame. d) Crucify him.

ALL OF THE ABOVE. Cast your judgements. :lol:

So sexual harrassment is now justified if the guy is going through a "mid-life crisis"? Or is it just that you find Favre sympathetic no matter what he does so you'll find something--anything--to make what he does sound palatable? Woody, your penalty for drawing this conversation out so long should be to have Bert's cro(t)c(h) shot as your computer wallpaper for the next month. Have a good look at Lorenzo for a few days and then tell us that it's all been a big misunderstanding.

[Scott Campbell]

Woody, your penalty for drawing this conversation out so long should be to have Bert's cro(t)c(h) shot as your computer wallpaper for the next month. Have a good look at Lorenzo for a few days and then tell us that it's all been a big misunderstanding.



Well, I guess most of us would view that as punishment.

[mraynrand]

a) Burn Favre at the stake. b)Tar and feather him. c)Ban him from the NFL Hall of Fame. d) Crucify him.

Once again Woody, you've demolished your foe:

http://new-pakistan.com/assets/2010/8/17/strawman.jpg

[LP]

Or where is Woody? I hope he's ok with the Packers beating the Vikings. That's gotta be tough on him.

Just had to ask didn't you.

[mission]

Or where is Woody? I hope he's ok with the Packers beating the Vikings. That's gotta be tough on him.

Just had to ask didn't you.

What was I thinking!? :P

[Zool]

Or where is Woody? I hope he's ok with the Packers beating the Vikings. That's gotta be tough on him.

Just had to ask didn't you.

What was I thinking!? :P

In the future lets think these things through OK?

[mmmdk]

Q: What does the house of Favre treat kids with at Halloween?

A: Spotted dick...with purple spots.

:rs:

[swede]

Q: What does the house of Favre treat kids with at Halloween?

A: Spotted dick...with purple spots.

:rs:

Somewhere in Greater Britannia a fan of American football with a sweet tooth, an aversion for children, and a deep-seated hatred of the Minnesota Vikings is laughing.

[mmmdk]

Q: What does the house of Favre treat kids with at Halloween?

A: Spotted dick...with purple spots.

:rs:

Somewhere in Greater Britannia a fan of American football with a sweet tooth, an aversion for children, and a deep-seated hatred of the Minnesota Vikings is laughing.

You're one cool rat, swede :D

[Scott Campbell]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/11/sterger-finally-meets-with-nfl/

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/jenn_sterger_meets_with_messages_YdInLjV7Qpa3dNuRq ux0WO



"And The Post has learned that Sterger and her legal team gave the NFL "a substantial amount" of material and information beyond what was previously reported about Favre's pursuit of her.

Sterger, 26, met for more than three hours with NFL security chief Milt Ahlerich and another league investigator at an undisclosed location in Manhattan. She was accompanied by her lawyer, Joseph Conway, and her manager, Phil Reese.

"We can confirm that a meeting took place with the NFL today and we cooperated fully by providing them with substantial materials in our possession," Reese told The Post after the sitdown.

"We now await the NFL's decision."

[vince]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here, possibly with financial restitution to Sterger...

[Scott Campbell]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here.


Hard to say for sure, but it's not looking like a good day for team Bert. And it happens just as we think the story is dying. But it's the gift that keeps on giving. :lol:


"Sterger's sitdown with NFL probers -- which came after more than weeks of uncertainty about whether she would agree to that interview -- greatly ratchets up the chances that Favre will disciplined by the league for the purported misconduct, which allegedly occurred when he was playing for the Jets in 2008."

[Scott Campbell]

Favre could be suspended for the Packer game. How funny would that be?

[sheepshead]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here, possibly with financial restitution to Sterger...

No actually, well first the NFL cant order Favre to pay her. So if he is suspended then presumed guilt is there and her lawyers get busy. Looking for a settlement of course.

[Scott Campbell]

The only hint of a reason for the delay (other than to encourage settlement offers before talking) was the hiring of ex FBI investigators to prove that he got her cellphone number from a Jets employee. If they now have that proof, that would explain a lot. And ole Bert would be in big trouble. The Jets too.

[Scott Campbell]

No actually, well first the NFL cant order Favre to pay her.



It would not surprise me in the least if he didn't pay her because there are too many other Stergers out there who would be looking for their payout.

[vince]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here, possibly with financial restitution to Sterger...

No actually, well first the NFL cant order Favre to pay her. So if he is suspended then presumed guilt is there and her lawyers get busy. Looking for a settlement of course.
The NFL has culpability here too as the employer in this sexual harrassment case. I obviously don't know what's going to happen, but the NFL could settle this case with Sterger and fine Favre for his actions as well.

[Scott Campbell]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here, possibly with financial restitution to Sterger...

No actually, well first the NFL cant order Favre to pay her. So if he is suspended then presumed guilt is there and her lawyers get busy. Looking for a settlement of course.
The NFL has culpability here too as the employer in this sexual harrassment case. I obviously don't know what's going to happen, but the NFL could settle this case with Sterger and fine Favre for his actions as well.



To me a fine would seem like a really odd sort of punishment for such an offense.

[vince]

The plot thickens. Reading between the lines a bit, it almost sounds as if Sterger's legal team is threatening to file suit if the NFL doesn't take action here, possibly with financial restitution to Sterger...

No actually, well first the NFL cant order Favre to pay her. So if he is suspended then presumed guilt is there and her lawyers get busy. Looking for a settlement of course.
The NFL has culpability here too as the employer in this sexual harrassment case. I obviously don't know what's going to happen, but the NFL could settle this case with Sterger and fine Favre for his actions as well.
To me a fine would seem like a really odd sort of punishment for such an offense.In addition to a suspension. It could happen, particularly if it costs the league/Jets money.

[Scott Campbell]

It should be interesting. I read they met for 3 hours. That's time enough to cover a LOT of bad and disgusting stuff. :lol:


My gut tells me that Roger is now thinking about how this will all play out in the media. If he's soft on Bert, and she goes public with some very gory details, he's going to look REALLY bad.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Goodell will wait for the report from the investigator first. That will likely take several days at least.

[gbgary]

I read they met for 3 hours. That's time enough to cover a LOT of bad and disgusting stuff. :lol:


that's a long talk about a short subject.

[Scott Campbell]

I read they met for 3 hours. That's time enough to cover a LOT of bad and disgusting stuff. :lol:


that's a long talk about a short subject.



Good ole number 4..............








............inches. :lol:

[gbgary]

Favre could be suspended for the Packer game. How funny would that be?

that would be funny. i want this to be the final straw that kills off the season totally for minn.

[Scott Campbell]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/11/goodell-not-motivated-by-timeline-in-making-decision-on-favre/

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/11/brett-favre-investigation-jenn-sterger-nfl-new-york-jets-text-messages-penis-pictures-minnesota-vikings/

Brett Favre Probe: Sterger Expects 'Swift' Action

11/11/2010 4:20 PM PST by TMZ Staff

Jenn Sterger's manager expects the NFL to drop the hammer on Brett Favre pretty quickly -- now that Sterger's provided the league "overwhelming evidence" against the future Hall of Famer.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/11/11/1111-sterger-favre-getty-tmz-exd-1-credit.jpg

[The Leaper]

I'm guessing the league holds off until AFTER the Vikings play Chicago and Green Bay...then out comes the hammer.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jenn Sterger's manager expects the NFL to drop the hammer on Brett Favre pretty quickly -- now that Sterger's provided the league "overwhelming evidence" against the future Hall of Famer.
Too funny. They drag their feet on this for almost a month and now they are demanding quick action.

Sorry you didn't get your money Jenn.

[Scott Campbell]

Jenn Sterger's manager expects the NFL to drop the hammer on Brett Favre pretty quickly -- now that Sterger's provided the league "overwhelming evidence" against the future Hall of Famer.
Too funny. They drag their feet on this for almost a month and now they are demanding quick action.

Sorry you didn't get your money Jenn.


It looks like they may have been doing more than just dragging their feet. They hired former FBI investigators to determine if Bert got her phone number from a Jets employee, and computer forensics specialists to help solidify the text audit trail. Her rep made it sound like they had quite a bit of evidence to present.

[gbgary]

I'm guessing the league holds off until AFTER the Vikings play Chicago and Green Bay...then out comes the hammer.i'd think they'd do something pretty quick rather than wait till their season is possibly saved, with wins over chicago and Green Bay, to do it. that punishes minn more than it does bf.

[Pugger]

I'm beginning to suspect that nothing will come of any of this. Gramps won't get suspended or fined and no national media guys will talk about it again.

[Joemailman]

My guess is that Goodell doesn't want to be the one to end Favre's consecutive game streak. On the other hand, he probably doesn't want to be seen as giving Favre preferential treatment. He's probably ticked that Favre's ankle injury didn't force him to sit out a game.

[vince]

I may be wrong but I think some of you are not looking at this at the right level. This is a sexual harrassment case and Jenn Sterger didn't hire an FBI investigator and forensics experts to get Favre suspended.

She's made it perfectly clear that she wants money, and she clearly thinks she can get it and is prepared to do what is necessary to do so.

The league may have to pay up if Favre won't or it could find itself defending a rather ugly and embarassing lawsuit, which in and of itself would cost it a lot of coin regardless of the ultimate outcome - plus the hit to its brand for not admitting guilt when presented with such an overwhelming case against it.

The league is in a tough spot here. If they just suspend Favre, they are admitting guilt which is not a smart thing to do prior to gettng sued for something. Perhaps that could possibly exculpate them from futher action, and place any suit firmly at Favre's feet, but I doubt it.

I think they'll get with Favre's attorney and settle this quickly and quietly before more information comes out and soils their names even worse than it already has.

Jenn Sterger has indicated that she isn't going to let this drop with no action, or even a suspension and no financial restitution to her. Again, she wants cash and she's prepared her case to get it one way or another, even if she has to drag Favre and the NFL through court. It’s possible she won’t follow through, but she’s at least threatening to do so. Prior statements by her representation, preparing an air-tight case, hiring special evidentiary experts, and initiating a public relaitons campaign laying ouyt the framework and saying, “We now await the NFL’s decision” demonstrates that.

[Scott Campbell]

I may be wrong but I think some of you are not looking at this at the right level. This is a sexual harrassment case and Jenn Sterger didn't hire an FBI investigator and forensics experts to get Favre suspended.

She's made it perfectly clear that she wants money, and she clearly thinks she can get it and is prepared to do what is necessary to do so.

The league may have to pay up if Favre won't or it could find itself defending a rather ugly and embarassing lawsuit, which in and of itself would cost it a lot of coin regardless of the ultimate outcome - plus the hit to its brand for not admitting guilt when presented with such an overwhelming case against it.

The league is in a tough spot here. If they just suspend Favre, they are admitting guilt which is not a smart thing to do prior to gettng sued for something. Perhaps that could possibly exculpate them from futher action, and place any suit firmly at Favre's feet, but I doubt it.

I think they'll get with Favre's attorney and settle this quickly and quietly before more information comes out and soils their names even worse than it already has.

Jenn Sterger has indicated that she isn't going to let this drop with no action, or even a suspension and no financial restitution to her. Again, she wants cash and she's prepared her case to get it one way or another, even if she has to drag Favre and the NFL through court. It’s possible she won’t follow through, but she’s at least threatening to do so. Prior statements by her representation, preparing an air-tight case, hiring special evidentiary experts, and initiating a public relaitons campaign laying ouyt the framework and saying, “We now await the NFL’s decision” demonstrates that.


Good post vince. I agree that she probably doesn't care at all whether Bert gets suspended.

It's not Favre's attorney that the league has to get with. It's the Jets attorney - Seyfarth Shaw labor and employment partner Gary Glaser. And while the league may get named as one of the defendants in a suit, Sterger doesn't have a strong case against the NFL according to attorney and ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossak. Her case will pit her against her employer (the Jets) and the alleged creepy douche much like any other sexual harassment case.

Let's review just some of what we know:

Like any employer, the Jets have a duty to provide a non hostile work environment.
Jenn was an employee of the Jets.
Bert was an employee of the Jets.
Bert called after Jets practice from the Jets offices.
Sterger alleges that Bert got her number from a Jets employee.
The massage therapists were hired by the Jets. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.
Ines Sainz was harassed by some unruly Jets this year. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.

Did the Jets do their duty here? Probably not. I think the Jets are kind of screwed.

Did the NFL do their duty here? I think they are in the process of doing just that right now. Roger is an attorney by trade, and he'll be thinking about how to minimize NFL liability exposure from this - not just for this case, but for any future cases that could use Bert's example to help establish a pattern of NFL behavior that overlooks harassment. Sweeping this under the rug is not going to protect the NFL. It would probably subject the NFL to further liability and scrutiny.

Lastly I'll point to the sexual harassment case of Anucha Brown Sanders over her claims of sexual harassment by Isiah Thomas. The defendants in that case were Thomas, Knicks owner James Dolan and Madison Square Garden - the corporation that owns the New York Knicks. The NBA was not named. The jury awarded Sanders $11.7M in punitive damages in large part due to how the harassment claims investigation was handled internally by the Knicks. I'm guessing that suit provided some of the motivation for this course of action, and a blueprint for which big pockets to tackle. It also provides a lot of motivation for Roger to handle the investigation appropriately.

[swede]

I may be wrong but I think some of you are not looking at this at the right level. This is a sexual harrassment case and Jenn Sterger didn't hire an FBI investigator and forensics experts to get Favre suspended.

She's made it perfectly clear that she wants money, and she clearly thinks she can get it and is prepared to do what is necessary to do so.

The league may have to pay up if Favre won't or it could find itself defending a rather ugly and embarassing lawsuit, which in and of itself would cost it a lot of coin regardless of the ultimate outcome - plus the hit to its brand for not admitting guilt when presented with such an overwhelming case against it.

The league is in a tough spot here. If they just suspend Favre, they are admitting guilt which is not a smart thing to do prior to gettng sued for something. Perhaps that could possibly exculpate them from futher action, and place any suit firmly at Favre's feet, but I doubt it.

I think they'll get with Favre's attorney and settle this quickly and quietly before more information comes out and soils their names even worse than it already has.

Jenn Sterger has indicated that she isn't going to let this drop with no action, or even a suspension and no financial restitution to her. Again, she wants cash and she's prepared her case to get it one way or another, even if she has to drag Favre and the NFL through court. It’s possible she won’t follow through, but she’s at least threatening to do so. Prior statements by her representation, preparing an air-tight case, hiring special evidentiary experts, and initiating a public relaitons campaign laying ouyt the framework and saying, “We now await the NFL’s decision” demonstrates that.


Good post vince. I agree that she probably doesn't care at all whether Bert gets suspended.

It's not Favre's attorney that the league has to get with. It's the Jets attorney - Seyfarth Shaw labor and employment partner Gary Glaser. And while the league may get named as one of the defendants in a suit, Sterger doesn't have a strong case against the NFL according to attorney and ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossak. Her case will pit her against her employer much like any other sexual harassment case.

Let's review just some of what we know:

Like any employer, the Jets have a duty to provide a non hostile work environment.
Jenn was an employee of the Jets.
Bert was an employee of the Jets.
Bert called after Jets practice from the Jets offices.
Sterger alleges that Bert got her number from a Jets employee.
The massage therapists were hired by the Jets. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.
Ines Sainz was harassed by some unruly Jets this year. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.

Did the Jets do their duty here? Probably not. I think the Jets are kind of screwed.

Did the NFL do their duty here? I think they are in the process of doing just that right now. Roger is an attorney by trade, and he'll be thinking about how to minimize NFL liability exposure from this - not just for this case, but for any future cases that could use Bert's example to help establish a pattern of NFL behavior that overlooks harassment.

Lastly I'll point to the sexual harassment case of Anucha Brown Sanders over her claims of sexual harassment by Isiah Thomas. The defendants in that case were Thomas, Knicks owner James Dolan, Madison Square Garden - the corporation that owns the New York Knicks. The NBA was not named. The jury awarded Sanders $11.7M in punitive damages in large part due to how the harassment claims investigation was handled internally by the Knicks. I'm guessing that suit provided some of the motivation for this course of action, and a blueprint for which big pockets to tackle. It also provides a lot of motivation for Roger to handle the investigation appropriately.

This was a very interesting post, providing some great context, but I wonder if this may be the first time I've seen SC string together so many werdz in one post.

What animates this torrent?

Is SC an attorney specializing in harassment suits?

Is SC a Hollywood entertainment reporter?

Did the Southern Mississippi football team gain biblical knowledge of his first wife after a road game at BYU?

One wonders...

[Scott Campbell]

This was a very interesting post, providing some great context, but I wonder if this may be the first time I've seen SC string together so many werdz in one post.

What animates this torrent?






:lol:


It's a labor of love. I think of it as my spiritual calling.



FYI - I took a couple of 100 level law classes in college, but have no legal background. In fact I go to great lengths to avoid attorneys in my business and personal life.

[swede]

I may be wrong but I think some of you are not looking at this at the right level. This is a sexual harrassment case and Jenn Sterger didn't hire an FBI investigator and forensics experts to get Favre suspended.

She's made it perfectly clear that she wants money, and she clearly thinks she can get it and is prepared to do what is necessary to do so.

The league may have to pay up if Favre won't or it could find itself defending a rather ugly and embarassing lawsuit, which in and of itself would cost it a lot of coin regardless of the ultimate outcome - plus the hit to its brand for not admitting guilt when presented with such an overwhelming case against it.

The league is in a tough spot here. If they just suspend Favre, they are admitting guilt which is not a smart thing to do prior to gettng sued for something. Perhaps that could possibly exculpate them from futher action, and place any suit firmly at Favre's feet, but I doubt it.

I think they'll get with Favre's attorney and settle this quickly and quietly before more information comes out and soils their names even worse than it already has.

Jenn Sterger has indicated that she isn't going to let this drop with no action, or even a suspension and no financial restitution to her. Again, she wants cash and she's prepared her case to get it one way or another, even if she has to drag Favre and the NFL through court. It’s possible she won’t follow through, but she’s at least threatening to do so. Prior statements by her representation, preparing an air-tight case, hiring special evidentiary experts, and initiating a public relaitons campaign laying ouyt the framework and saying, “We now await the NFL’s decision” demonstrates that.


Good post vince. I agree that she probably doesn't care at all whether Bert gets suspended.

It's not Favre's attorney that the league has to get with. It's the Jets attorney - Seyfarth Shaw labor and employment partner Gary Glaser. And while the league may get named as one of the defendants in a suit, Sterger doesn't have a strong case against the NFL according to attorney and ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossak. Her case will pit her against her employer (the Jets) and the alleged creepy douche much like any other sexual harassment case.

Let's review just some of what we know:

Like any employer, the Jets have a duty to provide a non hostile work environment.
Jenn was an employee of the Jets.
Bert was an employee of the Jets.
Bert called after Jets practice from the Jets offices.
Sterger alleges that Bert got her number from a Jets employee.
The massage therapists were hired by the Jets. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.
Ines Sainz was harassed by some unruly Jets this year. This helps establish a pattern of behavior.

Did the Jets do their duty here? Probably not. I think the Jets are kind of screwed.

Did the NFL do their duty here? I think they are in the process of doing just that right now. Roger is an attorney by trade, and he'll be thinking about how to minimize NFL liability exposure from this - not just for this case, but for any future cases that could use Bert's example to help establish a pattern of NFL behavior that overlooks harassment. Sweeping this under the rug is not going to protect the NFL. It would probably subject the NFL to further liability and scrutiny.

Lastly I'll point to the sexual harassment case of Anucha Brown Sanders over her claims of sexual harassment by Isiah Thomas. The defendants in that case were Thomas, Knicks owner James Dolan and Madison Square Garden - the corporation that owns the New York Knicks. The NBA was not named. The jury awarded Sanders $11.7M in punitive damages in large part due to how the harassment claims investigation was handled internally by the Knicks. I'm guessing that suit provided some of the motivation for this course of action, and a blueprint for which big pockets to tackle. It also provides a lot of motivation for Roger to handle the investigation appropriately.

Bumpworthy for the new page.

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/12/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main7047922.shtml



"The question now is when any decision about possible punishment for Favre comes down.

Remi Spencer, a former prosecutor told CBS News, "The NFL is obligated to pursue this and make sure they determine what the proper course of action is. They can't ignore it."

[Tony Oday]

Ok wait a second...arent all of these workers Contract Workers? If so they are not part of the Jets they are part of their own companies that are contractors. I know that Anne Carrol here in MN is a contract worker, she does Vikings Weekly.

[Scott Campbell]

Ok wait a second...arent all of these workers Contract Workers? If so they are not part of the Jets they are part of their own companies that are contractors. I know that Anne Carrol here in MN is a contract worker, she does Vikings Weekly.


I read that contract employee status has no bearing on sexual harassment lawsuits. And of course intuitively, that makes sense.

[Tony Oday]

Ok wait a second...arent all of these workers Contract Workers? If so they are not part of the Jets they are part of their own companies that are contractors. I know that Anne Carrol here in MN is a contract worker, she does Vikings Weekly.


I read that contract employee status has no bearing on sexual harassment lawsuits. And of course intuitively, that makes sense.

Does it? So if there is an employee at McDonalds who sexually harasses the American Food Services Driver, I think thats their supplier, then wouldnt it be a personal not a business matter?

[Scott Campbell]

Ok wait a second...arent all of these workers Contract Workers? If so they are not part of the Jets they are part of their own companies that are contractors. I know that Anne Carrol here in MN is a contract worker, she does Vikings Weekly.


I read that contract employee status has no bearing on sexual harassment lawsuits. And of course intuitively, that makes sense.

Does it? So if there is an employee at McDonalds who sexually harasses the American Food Services Driver, I think thats their supplier, then wouldnt it be a personal not a business matter?


http://library.findlaw.com/2003/Sep/30/133068.html

"Additionally, many employers are not aware that there are different tests for whether a worker is an independent contractor or an employee, depending on the type of law applied. For example, independent contractors have many of the same rights as employees under state and local anti-discrimination laws. The reverse is also true – sexual harassment or racial or other forms of discrimination initiated by an independent contractor could result in liability to the employer. Additionally, concepts of agency may result in the employer being bound by the words of acts of the independent contractor, such as verbal or written commitments to buy and sell goods or services at a certain rate, or liability for auto accidents."

[Scott Campbell]

Ok wait a second...arent all of these workers Contract Workers? If so they are not part of the Jets they are part of their own companies that are contractors. I know that Anne Carrol here in MN is a contract worker, she does Vikings Weekly.


I read that contract employee status has no bearing on sexual harassment lawsuits. And of course intuitively, that makes sense.

Does it? So if there is an employee at McDonalds who sexually harasses the American Food Services Driver, I think thats their supplier, then wouldnt it be a personal not a business matter?


I don't think that's the same thing. In your example, the Driver worked for a different company. Jenn was an independent contractor hired by the Jets. She wasn't working for anyone else.

[Tony Oday]

well whatever really he is a D Bag.

[Scott Campbell]

My best guess as to what happens next is that they call Bert back in for another interview to discuss the new evidence that team Sterger introduced. I don't know how they could take any action against him without first allowing him to respond to whatever it is that she said.

[Fritz]

Scott, don't you think that in the end it is in the league's best interest to just drag this investigation out until the season's over and Favre retires (and yes, I firmly believe this IS his last year and he will retire after this one)?

I just don't see the league doing anything against Favre.

[Scott Campbell]

Scott, don't you think that in the end it is in the league's best interest to just drag this investigation out until the season's over and Favre retires (and yes, I firmly believe this IS his last year and he will retire after this one)?

I just don't see the league doing anything against Favre.



It depends. I think that foot dragging is a distinct possibility. But it's not the one that I'm betting on at this point.

If Sterger's evidence shared at the Thursday meeting was compelling, then you can make a strong case for Goodell acting swiftly. His responsibility is not to protect Favre, or the Jets. His responsibility is to protect the NFL.

[vince]

I'll certainly defer to ESPN's legal expert on this point, but I put the Jets and the league in the same legal boat because, at least as it pertains to antitrust law, all the teams are one "business" competing against other businesses for employment services among other things. If they weren't, the players would have done away with the draft and other anti-competitive practices a long time ago.

So the league needs to act appropriately or they open themselves up to liability here (assuming there's a case, which from what I've read it appears there is). While they may well have less exposure than the Jets, they do have the same interests as the Jets in that respect. If they ignore it, they'll likely be sued right along with the Jets and Favre.

As the guy from CBS said, they NEED to act, but do so in a way that eliminates the threat of a suit (to them) after doing so because they ironically admit guilt in some respect when they do. In other words, Sterger will need to "approve" of their action and agree not to sue them in the process.

[Scott Campbell]

I'll certainly defer to ESPN's legal expert on this point, but I put the Jets and the league in the same legal boat because, at least as it pertains to antitrust law, all the teams are one "business" competing against other businesses for employment services for example. If they weren't, the players would have done away with the draft, among other anti-competitive practices, a long time ago.

So the league needs to act appropriately or they open themselves up to liability here. While they may well have less exposure than the Jets, they do have the same interests as the Jets in that respect. If they ignore it, they'll likely be sued right along with the Jets and Favre.


It's clear that Bert is on the hook if anything happened.
It's clear the Jets are on the hook if anything happened.
It's much less clear to me that the NFL is on the hook if anything happened.

I think the NFL could be on the hook for any impropriety during the investigation phase, as they introduced themselves as the judge and disciplinary body regarding this situation. In particular, their decision not to request a Sterger interview back in August when their security goon Aldrich said they looked into the story is not going to reflect well. But I'm not sure that will have any legal ramifications.

At the end of the day, she was a Jet's employee (independent contractor). And they were the ones responsible for providing a non hostile work environment.

[Scott Campbell]

So the league needs to act appropriately or they open themselves up to liability here (assuming there's a case, which from what I've read it appears there is). While they may well have less exposure than the Jets, they do have the same interests as the Jets in that respect.


I disagree with this point. The NFL has to consider the interests of the other 31 teams that are not operating in the Animal House environment that is being portrayed regarding the Jets. The NFL has a responsibility to teams like the Packers to protect them from rogue teams like the Jets.

[vince]

Not sure why you are taking the statement out of context to disagree with it. I agree with your point. The league is responsible to all the teams. The league IS all the teams. If they don't act appropriately here (like the Jets), the league could potentially be sued like the Jets, which is what I said, and you said, and the CBS guy said.

The simple words by Sterger's representative, "We now await the NFL's decision." packs a potentially big whollup.

[Scott Campbell]

Not sure why you are taking the statement out of context to disagree with it. I agree with your point. The league is responsible to all the teams. The league IS all the teams. If they don't act appropriately here (like the Jets), the league could potentially be sued like the Jets, which is what I said, and you said, and the CBS guy said.

The simple words by Sterger's representative, "We now await the NFL's decision." packs a potentially big whollup.


Oh!!!!!

Well said then. :lol:

[Scott Campbell]

Here is something I don't understand. If Roger is going to apply the personal conduct policy enforcement in an even handed way, how can he look the other way on this - even if they determine it didn't cross the workplace sexual harassment threshold?

[vince]

The personal conduct policy is designed to protect the flow of dollars to the league (and to the networks that televise and promote it for that matter). Unfortunately, so is Brett Favre's image. Customers are dumb. Hypocrisy is a word that has no meaning in finance. If Goodell acts, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league. If Goodell doesn't act, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league.

[Scott Campbell]

The personal conduct policy is designed to protect the flow of dollars to the league (and to the networks that televise and promote it for that matter). Unfortunately, so is Brett Favre's image. Customers are dumb. Hypocrisy is a word that has no meaning in finance. If Goodell acts, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league. If Goodell doesn't act, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league.


I hear you, but what happens the next time some player gets suspended and files a grievance based on "Why didn't you suspend Bert?".

[vince]

The personal conduct policy is designed to protect the flow of dollars to the league (and to the networks that televise and promote it for that matter). Unfortunately, so is Brett Favre's image. Customers are dumb. Hypocrisy is a word that has no meaning in finance. If Goodell acts, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league. If Goodell doesn't act, it will be because it is in the best financial interests of the league.
I hear you, but what happens the next time some player gets suspended and files a grievance based on "Why didn't you suspend Bert?".Yeah, hopefully the king will have some integrity about it. One thing's for sure, we'll be watching.

[Scott Campbell]

....
It looks like Tony Parker may have pulled a Bert.

November 18, 2010 9:49 AM Erin Barry: Tony Parker's Texting Partner?



http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2010/11/18/105971110_370x278.jpg NBA player Tony Parker and actress Eva Longoria Parker arrive to the 2nd Annual Rally for Kids with Cancer "The Qualifiers" Celebrity Draft Party on Oct. 22, 2010, in Hollywood, Calif.
(Credit: Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty)
NEW YORK (CBS) Eva Longoria filed for divorce on Wednesday from husband Tony Parker, and friend Mario Lopez later confirmed that the actress found hundreds of text messages (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20023127-10391698.html) from another woman on her now-estranged husband's phone.
Now, reports are speculating that the woman in question is Erin Barry, wife of former San Antonio Spurs player Brent Barry.
PICTURES: Celebrity Splits (http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-207_162-538280.html)
PICTURES: Their Wedding Preparations (http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-207_162-2979355.html)
PICTURES: The Wedding (http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-207_162-3027172.html)
"Have it on good authority from entertainment sources that 'former teammate' in Tony Parker-Eva Longoria affair is Brent Barry," Sports Illustrated writer Bryan Armen Graham tweeted (http://twitter.com/BryanAGraham/status/4993086186848256#) on Wednesday. "Don't have much else on Parker/Longoria affair. Source did mention Barry and wife are going through a divorce."
He also wrote (http://twitter.com/BryanAGraham/status/5000639801200641): "Longoria said she found text messages from wife of a former teammate on Parker's phone. Source says former teammate was Barry."
Graham did not reveal his source.
Barry's father, NBA Hall of Famer Rick Barry, confirmed that his son and wife are divorcing.
"I feel horrible for my son. I'm in shock," he told TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/17/brent-barry-divorce-eva-longoria-tony-parker-erin-barry/?ewrd=1). "I knew [Erin] was moving out of the house soon and she was the one that filed for divorce. This is the straw that broke the camel's back."
He added, "[Brent] is going to be devastated. I can't even imagine him going through this ... the divorce was hard enough news."
A source told People (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20443142,00.html) magazine that Parker did send text messages to his former teammate's wife, but that their relationship didn't become physical.
"They knew each other, sent each other messages," the source said. "It was flirtatious, but he never did anything with her."
Access Hollywood's Billy Bush contacted Erin Berry for comment.
"We spoke to erin barry...Brent Barry's wife from San Antonio Spurs...she cried and said 'No comment.' #ahcom. TP was texting her," he tweeted (http://twitter.com/billybush/status/5020133428822016).
"Eva wants everyone to know, she's devastated by the rumors of Tony's infidelity. She loved her husband and is heartbroken about their split," Lopez said on "Extra." (http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2010/11/eva_longoria_talks_to_mario_about_split_with_tony_ parker.php#ixzz15ZA7WFuY) "But she's strong."
Longoria broke her silence on the matter Wednesday, but did not elaborate on the infidelity allegations.
"It is with great sadness that after 7 years together, Tony and I have decided to divorce," she wrote on her Twitter (http://twitter.com/EvaLongoria/status/4982762649948160#) page. "We love each other deeply and pray for each other's happiness."

[vince]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yEiuHNuiDk&feature=player_embedded#!

[Scott Campbell]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/21/favre-still-miffed-about-chillys-criticism/

Favre still miffed about Chilly’s criticism

Posted by Mike Florio on November 21, 2010, 11:12 AM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/favreleavinglambeau.jpg?w=320As the Vikings prepare for the second half of their annual home-and-home series against the Packers, Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1744) continues to stew about the first meeting.
But he’s not miffed about the bad call(s) or the broken bones in his feet or the half-hearted effort by Randy Moss (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1655) to jump up and catch what would have been a game-winning touchdown pass. Favre is pissed because coach Brad Childress called out the signal-caller publicly in the coach’s post-game press conference.
Per Ed Werder of ESPN, Favre said that it’s a “damn shame” that Childress decided to complain to the media about Favre’s mistakes of judgment.
Maybe our theory/hypothesis/half-assed guess that Favre will try to beat the Packers today and then limp off into the sunset isn’t so crazy, after all.

[Scott Campbell]

That scumbag is a cancer everywhere he goes. To his team. To his coaching staff. To his family. What a despicable disgrace of a human being.

[Scott Campbell]

Because there hasn't been enough turmoil on the Vikings lately, I think now would be a good time for some Favre/Sterger news. It's way too quiet in this thread.

[Joemailman]

That scumbag is a cancer everywhere he goes. To his team. To his coaching staff. To his family. What a despicable disgrace of a human being.

As bad as Favre has conducted himself the last couple of years, I don't think you can blame him for what has happened to the Vikings coaching staff. If Chilly was a man to be respected, he would not have created one set of rules for Favre, and another for everyone else. Chilly wasn't forced to do that. He did it because he was as much a bum as you think Favre is. The collapse of the Vikings would have happened with or without Favre. It just wouldn't have been as entertaining without him.

[Packgator]

As bad as Favre has conducted himself the last couple of years, I don't think you can blame him for what has happened to the Vikings coaching staff. If Chilly was a man to be respected, he would not have created one set of rules for Favre, and another for everyone else. Chilly wasn't forced to do that. He did it because he was as much a bum as you think Favre is. The collapse of the Vikings would have happened with or without Favre. It just wouldn't have been as entertaining without him.

What came first. The enable(ee) or the enable(er)?

[Scott Campbell]

My best guess as to what happens next is that they call Bert back in for another interview to discuss the new evidence that team Sterger introduced. I don't know how they could take any action against him without first allowing him to respond to whatever it is that she said.


Report: Favre is expected to be re-interviewed this week

Posted by Mike Florio on November 30, 2010, 8:54 AM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/favreandgerhart-e1291125158514.jpg?w=250Here’s one that has slipped through the cracks over the weekend, primarily because the guy who reported it has been systematically marginalized by his employer over the past couple of years.
According to ESPN’s John Clayton, a decision in the Brett Favre (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1744) investigation could come within a week (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5861882).
Clayton also reports that Sterger last week gave the league “the final visual evidence,” whatever that means. Clayton says that Favre is expected to be re-interviewed this week.
Though the obvious question is whether Favre sent lewd photos to Sterger, the question of whether the communications were welcome by Sterger becomes just as important, given that the potential violation of the Personal Conduct Policy arises from the possibility that Favre exposed a coworker to sexual harassment. The alleged conduct occurred in 2008, when Favre played for the Jets and when Sterger worked for the team as an in-house sideline reporter.
Favre previously admitted leaving voice messages for Sterger, but he denied (or at a minimum did not admit) sending the photos. A forensics expert has been hired to trace the electronic footprints created by photos of a body part that leaves an entirely different mark in the sand. If Favre ultimately is faced with clear evidence that he sent the photos and if he previously denied it, it could be awkward at best for him to say, “Yeah, I sent them. But she was into it.”

[Scott Campbell]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5861882

[Cheesehead Craig]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5861882
Title of the Article: Source: NFL wrapping up Favre probe

Good to see they have their Christmas gift already purchased for Brett. I wonder what kind of wrapping paper goes good with a probe.

[swede]

A forensics expert has been hired to trace the electronic footprints created by photos of a body part that leaves an entirely different mark in the sand.

I missed that booth on Careers Day.

[gbgary]

Title of the Article: Source: NFL wrapping up Favre probe

Good to see they have their Christmas gift already purchased for Brett. I wonder what kind of wrapping paper goes good with a probe.


if he hadn't unwrapped his probe in the first place they wouldn't have to be wrapping it back up.

[Freak Out]

My motto has always been probe deeper.

[vince]

Title of the Article: Source: NFL wrapping up Favre probe

Good to see they have their Christmas gift already purchased for Brett. I wonder what kind of wrapping paper goes good with a probe.
Quilted Northern

[vince]

http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/06/brett-favre-jenn-sterger-sexting-texting-penis-photos-nfl-punishment-new-york-jets-minnesota-vikings/



Brett Favre Accuser -- Going Public with 'Evidence'?
12/6/2010 5:45 PM PST by TMZ Staff

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If the NFL doesn't come down on Brett Favre for his alleged sexting scandal -- his accuser might go public with an "overabundance of evidence" ... this according to her manager.

Favre could get word any day now about potential punishment for allegedly sending Jenn Sterger photos of his penis while he was with the New York Jets ... and she was working as the team's stadium host.

Sterger's manager, Phil Reese, believes she "provided extensive evidence that irrefutably proves there was harassment" -- and adds, "No matter what happens Jenn has all legal remedies, including going public ... if the NFL doesn't clear her name."

Reese thinks an NFL reprimand of the Vikings QB would go a long way toward changing public opinion of Sterger.

Sterger's camp insists she has more evidence than the photos that have already come out. Reese adds, "We sincerely hope the league does the right thing."

[Scott Campbell]

Even I am getting tired of this story. It's like watching a 3 hour movie that should have been edited down to 90 minutes.

[pbmax]

As with all things Brett, this will not happen cleanly. Mort and King both report that they expect little, if any action, against him. At which point, I would tune into the View and Greta for the remainder of the coverage.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Even I am getting tired of this story. It's like watching a 3 hour movie that should have been edited down to 90 minutes.

Or a Greatest Hits album that should have been a single.

[swede]

Even I am getting tired of this story. It's like watching a 3 hour movie that should have been edited down to 90 minutes.

Or Rocky VI

[Fritz]

Always remember to wrap your probe!

[vince]

The NFL's best move is to delay this away without a conclusion and hope the public's interest wanes. If they suspend Favre, they debase the image of their cash cow and justify a harassment case against him. If they don't act, they might open themselves of to liability, assuming there's a harassmet case here. I'm no lawyer, so I have no idea whether the fact that Sterger probably wasn't overly intimidated by the pics seriously undermines any legal case of harrassment. It very well may.

Sterger's team wants to make sure they don't get away with delaying this into oblivion, which the NFL is currently succeeding at...

[Scott Campbell]

The 5-7 Favre that leads the league in INT's and with a passer ranking of 29th is no longer the cash cow he used to be. IMO

[vince]

Brett Favre is the biggest name in football - probably in the history of football from a marketing standpoint. He transcends the game from a marketing perspective and brings reach into new and global markets unlike anyone else. He's an American icon on par with Jordan and Woods. His play this year doesn't change that a bunch IMO. A sexual harassment judgement hurts it though. The NFL would love to exonerate him with their judgment here, but it doesn't look to me like they'll be able to.

[Scott Campbell]

He's an American icon on par with Jordan and Woods.

American icons have an incredibly short shelf life. IMO

Sponsor tells Tiger Woods he better win some golf tournaments

Electronic Arts Inc has no immediate plans to drop Tiger Woods as the pitchman for its golf video games, but the world’s former top golfer needs to get some wins under his belt, the video game publisher’s top executive said on Monday.

[Pugger]

Farve may at one time been an icon but most football fans except Favre fans and queen fans are sick to death of him and hearing about him.

[cheesner]

Brett Favre is the biggest name in football - probably in the history of football from a marketing standpoint. He transcends the game from a marketing perspective and brings reach into new and global markets unlike anyone else. He's an American icon on par with Jordan and Woods. His play this year doesn't change that a bunch IMO. A sexual harassment judgement hurts it though. The NFL would love to exonerate him with their judgment here, but it doesn't look to me like they'll be able to.

Not even close, Peyton Manning holds that title. It is starting to wane, but a year or two ago, that dude was on every other commercial it seemed.

[swede]

Brett Favre is the biggest name in football...

Roethlisberger

[vince]

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/mid/1508/ArticleId/441/Default.aspx

No idea how to make this a table, but you can see it as a table by clicking through the link.

"Who is Your Favorite Sports Star?"

2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010

Tiger Woods
2
2
3
1
1
1
1
=1

Kobe Bryant
7
6
*
7
9
4
4
=1

Derek Jeter
*
10
5
4
2
7
5
3

Brett Favre
3
3
4
3
4
3
9
4

Peyton Manning
*
7
2
*
8
=8
7
5

LeBron James
*
*
*
8
5
*
3
6

Michael Jordan
1
1
1
2
3
2
2
7

Tom Brady
*
*
7
*
10
=8
*
8

Drew Brees
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
9

Dale Earnhardt Jr.
*
5
8
5
6
6
8
10

Over the last 15 years, Brett Favre has been the most popular NFL player there is. He's been the most popular athlete behind only Jordan and Woods. In 2010, he's the most popular NFL player yet again.

[vince]

Favre is the single most popular athlete in America among Gen Xers - perhaps the most valuable marketing demographic of them all.

[steve823]

Sample size is barely over 2,000. And "These are only theoretical because no published polls come close to this ideal."

[vince]

Steve, no offense, but take a statistics course and come back. Harris Interactive is one of the most highly respected market research firms in existence. Of course the results are "theoretical." They didn't survey every American. A random sampling of 2,000+ individuals brings a very high degree of confidence in projecting the results to the population in question with very small margin of error.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Well, he certainly is the "sextiest" football player

[Little Whiskey]

I would have thought manning would have ranked higher. the fact that he isn't even rated in 2006 is shocking! he goes from his highest ranking of 2 in 2005 to out of the top then in 2007? wow.

[pbmax]

The favorite player rankings do not translate to dollars directly. People are not buying Favre merchandise like Manning (before this year), Brady or Vick this year. He had an uptick when he changed teams and had new jerseys to sell, but that bump is over. His value as an icon is undeniable. But the dollar values he translates into are specifically football related (rating, announcer mentions, etc.)

And I am no marketing maven, but I think the most attractive demographic is younger than Gen X. While Gen X have money to spend, they have well established patterns and loyalties. Most ad work attempts to sway the undecided or new toward a new brand. But its complicated, and I could be drawing on the wrong lesson. TV numbers for golf were never fantastic unless Palmer/Nicklaus/Woods were playing, but they never had trouble attracting Cadillac/Lincoln/Lexus/Infiniti to advertise because the audience had money. But most sponsors want young people watching the ads.

[Scott Campbell]

Steve, no offense, but take a statistics course and come back. Harris Interactive is one of the most highly respected market research firms in existence. Of course the results are "theoretical." They didn't survey every American. A random sampling of 2,000+ individuals brings a very high degree of confidence in projecting the results to the population in question with very small margin of error.


I think you can completely throw those statistics out. They're from July, and irrelevant after his latest escapades. IMO

[vince]

I read that twice PB and I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not, but it's about more than sales of Favre merchandise. Favre's image as the pre-eminent NFL icon impact the NFL's image in general around the world, which impacts revenues in many different areas.

Favre's image impacts the NFL brand worldwide more than any other player (for better or worse), which affects all NFL product sales, not just Favre merchandise. When the largest and most impactful face of your brand gets beat down, it has an effect.

[vince]

I think you can completely throw those statistics out. They're from July, and irrelevant after his latest escapades. IMO
Those statistics have no doubt changed significantly, which is the whole point.

[pbmax]

I read that twice PB and I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not ....

Sorry, that's my writing style; long and confusing.

I am not agreeing. Either to direct dollar sales (where it seems we are in agreement on figures at least) or image/icon status. I think he was the icon, but has been passed by this decade. His time extended from maybe from the 2nd or 3rd MVP year to the end of the 12-4 seasons. I think his impact, except for TV and regular followers of football has been overstated, especially in recent years. His image brought him to the like of Wrangler, Rayovac, Sears and Visa.

He has already admitted to sending the texts. Anything else that drops is just a larger hole in the facade, not a new one. He might still be third in the public eye (behind Brady, Manning) but football, but I don't think individuals affect the NFL in this case like they do in basketball. And unlike the scandals in baseball (McGwire. Bonds) this does not seem endemic to the game. Its one guy screwing up.

That is not to say that the league wouldn't like to sweep this under the rug. Its just a question of whether it will stay there.

[steve823]

Steve, no offense, but take a statistics course and come back. Harris Interactive is one of the most highly respected market research firms in existence. Of course the results are "theoretical." They didn't survey every American. A random sampling of 2,000+ individuals brings a very high degree of confidence in projecting the results to the population in question with very small margin of error.

First off, you cant base an argument solely off of statistics. I'm not trying to say you're wrong and "attack you" ,but I'm just not a fan of statistics. I didn't have much time to read everything thoroughly because I was in a rush before, but did they get the random people from different areas? Obviously geographical location plays a big role in who people like and what their responses will be. The site may be a good resource, but I still don't think statistics are reliable since a lot are inaccurate.

Also, you have to think that Favre would have dropped after all the negative media he's gotten about the Sterger thing and you would guess people are getting tired of his act. Of course you're going to always have people who adore him ,but in my opinion he's nowhere near an icon in the NFL anymore. Around 2003 he was ,but things have changed since then.

[vince]

I don't think individuals affect the NFL in this case like they do in basketball. And unlike the scandals in baseball (McGwire. Bonds) this does not seem endemic to the game. Its one guy screwing up.

That is not to say that the league wouldn't like to sweep this under the rug. Its just a question of whether it will stay there.
Goodell and the Personal Conduct Clause disagree with that. It's all about protecting the NFL's brand.

[pbmax]

Goodell and the Personal Conduct Clause disagree with that. It's all about protecting the NFL's brand.

But don't you think that Policy was in response to the aggregate of problems the league was having when he took over? Remember all the comparisons to the NBA that made the NFL look like the league of thugs and criminals? I agree that he is concerned about the image of the enterprise being tarnished by the employees, but I don't think one player can spray that much mud.

In some ways, Favre has always inoculated his public image by freely admitting his past. I am not saying he is completely honest, but his past is pretty well documented.

[sharpe1027]

I think Houshmandzadeh is a biggest name in the NFL.

[vince]

But don't you think that Policy was in response to the aggregate of problems the league was having when he took over? Remember all the comparisons to the NBA that made the NFL look like the league of thugs and criminals? I agree that he is concerned about the image of the enterprise being tarnished by the employees, but I don't think one player can spray that much mud.

In some ways, Favre has always inoculated his public image by freely admitting his past. I am not saying he is completely honest, but his past is pretty well documented.
I think what has made Favre so transcendent is his past - overcoming the vicoden addiction with an MVP and Super Bowl season, his dad's death, wife's cancer, etc. Along with is durability and childlike affection for the game, his problems are what football fans and non-football fans can relate to.

I'm not saying that any one player can have a multi-billion dollar impact on the NFL's image. People try all the time, but it's impossible to quantify the value of a brand, much less what impact an instance such as this may have on one, but it's still real. A lot of investment is put into brand management and for good reason.

In this case, if the NFL could make Favre the innocent victim of a money-hungry whore and restore his image/value to the league, I think they would. It doesn't appear they're goint to be able to do that. No one knows how much that's worth, but it's real.

[Pugger]

I think Houshmandzadeh is a biggest name in the NFL.

:lol:

[Patler]

Brett Favre is the biggest name in football - probably in the history of football from a marketing standpoint. He transcends the game from a marketing perspective and brings reach into new and global markets unlike anyone else. He's an American icon on par with Jordan and Woods. His play this year doesn't change that a bunch IMO. A sexual harassment judgement hurts it though. The NFL would love to exonerate him with their judgment here, but it doesn't look to me like they'll be able to.

I hope you mean this facetiously.

[vince]

I hope you mean this facetiously.
No I'm serious. For about 15 consecutive years, Brett Favre was the most popular player in the league. That's not just my opinion, that's according to the independent market research of Harris Interactive.

The way he overcame personal challenges, the poignant and almost miraculous performance after his father's death for example, put him on a status in the world of sports with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. Market research proves that. So does the unprecedented attention he garners in the media. They know what they're doing. He brought more marketing and brand building impact to the league than any other player for a longer period of time than anyone probably in the history of the game.

He's pretty much thrown that down the toilet in the last couple years and in particular with his public infidelity attempts and croc shots. If the NFL could debunk this story through their "investigation" they would.

[Guiness]

The real joke is how long this continues to go on while the league 'investigates'. Can they stretch it out another 3-4 weeks so they don't have to break his streak with a suspension, without losing any modicum of respectability?

I think they'll say to hell with respectability, delay it, he'll retire, and they'll announce the suspension after that. That way, he can retire with an unbroken streak. A couple years from now, no one will remember that the league dragged their feet, but everyone would remember if the streak was broken.

Only thing I see screwing this up is if Sterger decides to kick up a fuss, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out a back room deal has already been cut, just not announced.

[mmmdk]

The real joke is how long this continues to go on while the league 'investigates'. Can they stretch it out another 3-4 weeks so they don't have to break his streak with a suspension, without losing any modicum of respectability?

I think they'll say to hell with respectability, delay it, he'll retire, and they'll announce the suspension after that. That way, he can retire with an unbroken streak. A couple years from now, no one will remember that the league dragged their feet, but everyone would remember if the streak was broken.

Only thing I see screwing this up is if Sterger decides to kick up a fuss, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out a back room deal has already been cut, just not announced.

Ya think they're texting each other 'bout dat backroom deal?

[Fritz]

No, they're sexting!