Observations from watching family night game

[The_Dude]

Posted this on Packerchatters.com too,

What I saw:

-Greg Jennings looks like Donald Drivers Clone. Has the same long sprinter stride but runs and (importantly) catches like a Vet. He should be the Number #2 by the end of preseason

-Donald Lee, dropped his first pass but looked pretty good after that.

-Gado and Herron probably averaged around 4 yards a carry and the Zone-Blocking seemed effective against the Defense

-Underwood was around the ball lot, and made an interception

-Hodge looked really good and completly stoned Brown on a running play. Only hit that you could hear on TV

-Barnett and Hawk were in on a decent amount of tackles but didn't notice them much in the passing game. which could be good since they then didn't blow coverage then.

-Farve looked good and had some good throws

-Rodgers prior to the interception was doing really well, his recievers couldn't seem to hold on the the ball at some points but hte ball was there. Threw a bullet for a TD catch.

-Driver looked really good.

-It did seem that each of hte QB had a decent amount of time, which is good for hte Oline but our pass rush seems to be OK, but that might change.

-Ryan (punter) bombed a 65 yard punt on his only try and Sanders got a 48 yard punt off. When Ryan punted, I went " holy crap"

-A. Carroll just looked OK, Driver got by him for a good gain. Missed a couple of tackles. What was Woodson out with??

-They interviewd Poppinga and he looked like he was itching and scatching to get out there.

-Culver seemed to play pretty well, on that play where driver got by Carrol, Culver looked like he was in position to swat the ball away at least but didn't.

-Gardner looked decent but some of the other ones had ups and downs. Rodgers did have the break away catch (ran down by carrol, but he wasn't covering him, showed his sprinter speed) and Lucas had a couple of good catches.

-With all the talk of them staying with the short pass the Offense did throw it's share of long passes.

[b bulldog]

I thought Brett looked average, the Driver jump ball should have been picked off. The only LB making plays tonight was Hodge, Barnett had a few and that's it. KGB looked quick off the edge but still has only one move. The rookie WR's looked good as did the rookie G's although our DT's looked pretty averge. Underwood and Culver were around the ball alot and Rodgers did show some arm strength. In regards to Ryan, if he continues to punt low, long punts, he will outpunt his coverage and set the punt coverage team up for big plays by the opponents return men.

[Tony Oday]

FGs!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH Rayner and Cundiff missed one!

Fricken Cundiff another one missed!

CMON RAYNER!!! Drilled it.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think alot of the starters with their positions secure played like they didn't give a rat's ass, especially across the defensive line.

I thought it was really important to watch the younger cats out their on the field. I thought the interior of the line held up decently. The Packers 2nd string defensive tackles are darn good, infact they were starters last year. Hodge could also be considered a quality type starter on this team, so considering all those fact, I still think the offensive interior did pretty decent.

[b bulldog]

I agree with your assesment of the interior although how much effort did our DT's put forth?

[outflow]

If the philosophy carries over to the regular season...we're going to see ALOT of passes to the tight ends.

It's been said...but Jennings looks like a stud.

[woodbuck27]

The_Dude:

Outstanding report man! You covered a ton there.

I'd say that wasn't a bad outing overall. Really pleased to hear that Gado and Herron averaged even 4 yards /carry.

Yes it appears as though we have Greg Jennings moving into position to start opposite DD.

Abdul Hodge. . .way to show em !! :mrgreen: He'll be a fan favourite someday. Head to the ball carrier guy. Hard hitter !!

Did the OL look strong (physically) as a whole? How did they move as a unit? Sounds like Junius Coston had a bad scrimmage?

Thanks a bunch The_Dude.

GO PACKERS !!

[Fosco33]

I watched and recorded the game. I'll do a quick recap of the 1st and 2nd string offense - on QB/RB/OL/WR/TE breakdown. Got nothing much else to do and you guys have given plenty in the past... I'll post it later after rewatching the plays more closely.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I thought Brett looked average

That's surprising. Favre looked pretty sharp. Missed a ball on the sideline to Gardner, and threw into double coverage to Driver (which Driver) caught, but he was sharp other than that. Martin dropped the first ball.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre sharp in Packers scrimmage
By CHRIS JENKINS, AP Sports Writer

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- Though a lot has changed for the Green Bay Packers since the end of last season, the combination of Brett Favre to Donald Driver still works.

And that Favre-to-Greg Jennings combination seems to be coming along nicely, too.

After beginning the week by throwing five interceptions in a practice session, Favre looked fairly sharp in front of a sold-out Lambeau Field crowd during the Green Bay Packers' "Family Night" scrimmage on Saturday.

"I'm very pleased," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. "I think Brett's kind of reached that point in camp, if my memory serves me right, it's about that week into camp where the ball starts spinning out of his hand."

Favre -- who flew with a Packers contingent to Canton, Ohio, earlier in the day in hopes of catching the Hall of Fame induction ceremony for late teammate Reggie White -- returned in time to drill a couple of big throws to his No. 1 receiver.

On his first series, Favre hit Driver on a 48-yard pass. Three plays later, he found Driver again on a quick slant for a four-yard touchdown pass.

Favre looked for Jennings, a rookie, during a two-minute drill simulation later in the scrimmage. Favre overthrew Jennings on a long pass attempt, then found him on a short pass that Jennings turned into a 27-yard gain with an impressive run after the catch. Favre finished 9-for-13 for 119 yards.

After only one full week into training camp, Favre has singled out Jennings, a second-round pick out of Western Michigan, as a potential new playmaker. Favre compares Jennings to former Packers receiver Antonio Freeman, saying Jennings might have the intangibles to make up for his relative lack of size and speed.

Jennings said he enjoyed playing in a game-like atmosphere, even if it was just a scrimmage.

"It was still practice for us," Jennings said. "But, I feel real comfortable right now. I'm rolling, and with that comfort comes a lot of playmaking opportunities."

Jennings also got work in the return game, including a 40-yard punt runback.

After Samkon Gado capped off the drive with a rumbling 10-yard touchdown -- one of relatively few highlights for the Green Bay running game on Saturday -- Favre found Jennings for a two-point conversion. Jennings looked like a veteran on the play, pushing off cornerback Therrian Fontenot without being penalized.

The Packers' running game was hindered by the absences of running backs Najeh Davenport and Ahman Green, who were among several notable Packers players held out of Saturday's scrimmage because of injury. Packers running backs gained 94 yards on 30 attempts.

McCarthy didn't seem overly concerned about the team's rushing struggles, given the fact that the team is starting two rookie guards and is implementing a new zone-oriented blocking scheme.

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson watches his team Saturday night, Aug. 5, 2006, during a football scrimmage at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wis.
AP - Aug 5, 10:18 pm EDT
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"We're definitely a work in progress," McCarthy said. "We're young there."

Davenport has been practicing with the team since training camp opened last Friday, but Green has yet to receive medical clearance to play.

Other notables who were held out of Saturday's practice included cornerback Charles Woodson, tackle Chad Clifton and tight end Bubba Franks. Receiver Robert Ferguson also was scratched for what the team described as "personal" reasons.

Safety Nick Collins appeared to be injured on Saturday after falling on a narrow strip of concrete at the edge of the field. Collins briefly stayed down and received attention from the team's medical staff, but eventually ran off the field without assistance.

"It was just a little pain that was running down my back," Collins said. "I had to sit up for a minute and recuperate."

Backup quarterback Aaron Rodgers was hindered by a handful of dropped passes while working with the Packers' No. 2 offensive unit on Saturday, and threw an interception to Marviel Underwood during two-minute drill work.

But Rodgers did hit receiver Marc Boerigter on a five-yard touchdown pass, and McCarthy said he was happy with the way Rodgers threw the ball.

"I think he gave the receivers the opportunity to make a lot of plays," McCarthy said.

The attendance was announced as 62,701, breaking the 2005 record.

[b bulldog]

In my mind, Rodgers looked better than Brett until that pic.

[Bretsky]

In your mind Joey Harrington and Ingle Martin are sharper than Favre :wink:

[woodbuck27]

Harvey:

Brett Favre will have a solid season. I am a little worried about his WR's though, but maybe Rod Gardner will snap into gear and Boe . . . but Robert Ferguson . . .doesn't appear as though he'll be with us long.

Abdul Hodge. . .Uhhh-Uhhh-Uhhhh !! BIG TIME scrimage. HIT IT !!!

GO PACKERS !

[b bulldog]

Not Harrington but Martin looked decent for a third stringer.

[BF4MVP]

Brian Wrobel outperformed Ingle Martin by a substantial margin..

[b bulldog]

Wrobel is a camp arm!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre was 9 for 13 for 113 yards, TD, no picks. Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards, TD, pick. Yet bulldog thought Rodgers looked better.
:shock:

From Christl:
"Aaron Rodgers was only 4 for 15 in the team period, but hit Ruvell Martin for 30 yards and tight end Donald Lee for 20 yards. Counting the two-minute drill, Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards."

Actually, I thought Rodgers looked good, but Brett looked good also. Encouraging play from Rodgers, and this should alleviate the hysteria regarding Favre's picks in 7 on 7 drills on Monday (e.g. overblown).

[b bulldog]

I was just reading the article on JS and wqs going to post the same stats. Those #'s are pretty good and they prove my assesment on his play tonight WRONG!

[HarveyWallbangers]

This just doesn't look right.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060805/capt.579d836d545040a3a86aab4ccb79d321.vikings_long well_football_mnjm112.jpg

[woodbuck27]

Favre was 9 for 13 for 113 yards, TD, no picks. Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards, TD, pick. Yet bulldog thought Rodgers looked better.
:shock:

From Christl:
"Aaron Rodgers was only 4 for 15 in the team period, but hit Ruvell Martin for 30 yards and tight end Donald Lee for 20 yards. Counting the two-minute drill, Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards."

Actually, I thought Rodgers looked good, but Brett looked good also. Encouraging play from Rodgers, and this should alleviate the hysteria regarding Favre's picks in 7 on 7 drills on Monday (e.g. overblown).

Harvey:

Never give up on any play until the whistle is blown. Did you see any of that out there tonight or did the Packers play hard?

[b bulldog]

wONDER IF HE'LL KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS HOLDER

[Fosco33]

Favre was 9 for 13 for 113 yards, TD, no picks. Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards, TD, pick. Yet bulldog thought Rodgers looked better.
:shock:

From Christl:
"Aaron Rodgers was only 4 for 15 in the team period, but hit Ruvell Martin for 30 yards and tight end Donald Lee for 20 yards. Counting the two-minute drill, Rodgers was 11 for 23 for 92 yards."

Actually, I thought Rodgers looked good, but Brett looked good also. Encouraging play from Rodgers, and this should alleviate the hysteria regarding Favre's picks in 7 on 7 drills on Monday (e.g. overblown).

There were a number of drops on Rodger's incomplete passes. I'll see how many here in the next day or so - he played better than the completion % showed.

[b bulldog]

Maybe I was just upset that he once again threw into triple coverage

[HarveyWallbangers]

He threw one ball into double coverage. It was to Donald Driver against turds like Fontenot and Bogar covering. I think it's smart to throw into double coverage when those turds are trying to cover Driver.
:D

Rodgers seemed to throw into double coverage a couple of times, but he looked better, of course.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There were a number of drops on Rodger's incomplete passes. I'll see how many here in the next day or so - he played better than the completion % showed.

True. I counted 5 drops. Maybe 1 would have been a tough catch. I counted 1 drop by Martin for Favre, and I'm not sure how close the ball on the sideline to Gardner was.

[woodbuck27]

There were a number of drops on Rodger's incomplete passes. I'll see how many here in the next day or so - he played better than the completion % showed.

True. I counted 5 drops. Maybe 1 would have been a tough catch. I counted 1 drop by Martin for Favre, and I'm not sure how close the ball on the sideline to Gardner was.

Who was the #3 WR tonight Harvey?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Gardner. Jennings and Driver started.

You are 4 away. I'm now 7 away.
:D

[pittstang5]

Some observations I had:

Clifton needs to get better....fast. The back up LTs need more reps and lot of work. I know they just switched Coston, but we are thinner then thin at LT and the entire tackle position.

Fergie....Personal commitment? What? Whoa? Somethings smells fishy here.

I noticed Chris White was playing LG on 2nd team and Lucier playing center....first I heard of this. After all the hype last year about White...why isn't he playing center? Is Lucier better? Maybe they were just trying something.

Carroll...well, at least he's not holding.

Underwood.....DAM, I was impressed....he was always around the ball. Manuel better get on the field soon or he's gonna being playing behind him.

I really wanted to see Bubba... I don't know why, but I did.

[b bulldog]

Your right on the throw but when those passes are picked, you'll be the first one bitching because the WR didn't make a play on a dumbass pass.

[pittstang5]

He threw one ball into double coverage. It was to Donald Driver against turds like Fontenot and Bogar covering. I think it's smart to throw into double coverage when those turds are trying to cover Driver.
:D

Rodgers seemed to throw into double coverage a couple of times, but he looked better, of course.

Are you refering to the nice catch Driver made. I think it was against Carroll and Culver. Either way, Favre got lucky.

[b bulldog]

Walker got real good at that

[HarveyWallbangers]

He threw one ball into double coverage. It was to Donald Driver against turds like Fontenot and Bogar covering. I think it's smart to throw into double coverage when those turds are trying to cover Driver.
:D

Rodgers seemed to throw into double coverage a couple of times, but he looked better, of course.

Are you refering to the nice catch Driver made. I think it was against Carroll and Culver. Either way, Favre got lucky.

Driver against Carroll? Now I know he made the right decision. I could be wrong, but I didn't think it was Carroll. Carroll was running with the #1 defense with Woodson out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Walker got real good at that

Caw! Caw! Caw! I know. Brett has built up all of his great numbers because of the prowess of his receivers to win jump balls in double coverage. Whatever! How's your college team going to do this year?

[b bulldog]

About as good as your top LB in this years draft.

[b bulldog]

Walker did make Brett look better than he was three years ago. He was the first WR to do so since Brett was the QB in GB.

[mraynrand]

This just doesn't look right.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060805/capt.579d836d545040a3a86aab4ccb79d321.vikings_long well_football_mnjm112.jpg

Is it just me, or is (are?) Longwell's junk upside down?

[CaliforniaCheez]

I was very impressed with the talent on the team.

They are looking good early.

[PCastleberg]

He threw one ball into double coverage. It was to Donald Driver against turds like Fontenot and Bogar covering. I think it's smart to throw into double coverage when those turds are trying to cover Driver.
:D

Rodgers seemed to throw into double coverage a couple of times, but he looked better, of course.

Are you refering to the nice catch Driver made. I think it was against Carroll and Culver. Either way, Favre got lucky.

Driver against Carroll? Now I know he made the right decision. I could be wrong, but I didn't think it was Carroll. Carroll was running with the #1 defense with Woodson out.

It was Driver against Culver Carroll but I wouldn't even classify it as double coverage becuase thats how bad Carroll was beaten on the play. Driver had to stop and come back and jump for the ball and Carrol though in the picture by that point did not have a play on the ball. My first impression was that Favre should not have thrown the ball into double coverage, after seeing a coulpe of replays I think it was a good decision, OK throw and Great catch.

PC

[BF4MVP]

Wrobel is a camp arm!
Doesn't say much for how Martin played.

[RashanGary]

Cory Rodgers took a big step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. He didn't drop any kicks, punts or passes and he showed the short area burst and deceptive strength that makes him tough to bring down. Hands down I like Jennings but Rodgers looks like one of those guys who plays better when it matters. He's going to have to build one preseason game on another but this was his first real step forward IMHO. I was hoping he'd shine with the pads on.

[Fosco33]

Cory Rodgers took a big step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. He didn't drop any kicks, punts or passes and he showed the short area burst and deceptive strength that makes him tough to bring down. Hands down I like Jennings but Rodgers looks like one of those guys who plays better when it matters. He's going to have to build one preseason game on another but this was his first real step forward IMHO. I was hoping he'd shine with the pads on.

He's fighting for the 5th spot. I believe he did have one bad route/drop and a couple nice catches (one wear he got caught on a good pursuit angle cutoff). The receivers looked much more in sync with the QB (more than the 2nd half of last season) anyways.

No one that has shined as a solid KO/punt return guy. A specialist is usually needed at that position to change field position in an instant. Using Jennings is risky and Woodson sounds like he doesn't want to do it either. Hopefully some guys will recover from their injuries to see some preseason action and heal in time for 9/10.

[packrulz]

I was pleased with the way both Brett and Rogers were communicating with McCarthy on the sideline which they amost never did with Sherman when he was here. McCarthy said it's important for them to be on the same page and I think it will help cut down on interceptions, people running the wrong routes, & etc.
I was also pleased with McCarthy's commitment to the running game, here's a quote: "Running the football is a commitment, running the football is a four-quarter journey," McCarthy said.


"It's not very often you come out in this league ripping people with the run game," McCarthy said. I didn't look at it all that the run game struggled, and we had the run at the end there that Samkon scored on.


"The biggest thing running the football is you don't want negative runs, you want to keep hammering away at the defense for a four-quarter commitment. It was our first opportunity for live work, cut blocking and things like that. I thought we got off to a solid start."


I'm also pretty sure there wasn't a fumble the entire scrimmage. Sure, it was sloppy but I like the enthusiasm and pound the ball philosophy so far.

[woodbuck27]

I watched and recorded the game. I'll do a quick recap of the 1st and 2nd string offense - on QB/RB/OL/WR/TE breakdown. Got nothing much else to do and you guys have given plenty in the past... I'll post it later after rewatching the plays more closely.

I put every Packer game I watch on the tube on tape and study it like Mike Sherman. :mrgreen:

That is the best way to watch the game. To see inside the play - to enjoy another Donald Driver spectacular catch.

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

In my mind, Rodgers looked better than Brett until that pic.

I'm surprised you'd say/think that b bulldog.

Aaron may get it down in say 3-4 more seasons. :mrgreen:

Favre's contract expires in what, 2010?

GO PACKERS!

[TPF]

I was watching the game on the NFL network and I'd say Favre looked pretty good.

[GBRulz]

I was gone all day yesterday so didn't watch the scrimmage, but have been catching up on alot of articles. Of course, the ones the fans post are always the best. I like what i'm reading about Favre, Rodgers, Driver, jennings & Hodge...but not too much was mentioned about Hawk anywhere. Did he not participate in alot of the plays or just not do anything too spectacular? How did he do overall?

[CaliforniaCheez]

http://images.packers.com/pg/2006-08-06/photo24.jpg

It was a good night for all.

[ny10804]

Can someone clarify that Nick Collins is perfectly alright after his supposed fall onto concrete

[woodbuck27]

Some observations I had:

Clifton needs to get better....fast. The back up LTs need more reps and lot of work. I know they just switched Coston, but we are thinner then thin at LT and the entire tackle position.

Fergie....Personal commitment? What? Whoa? Somethings smells fishy here.

I noticed Chris White was playing LG on 2nd team and Lucier playing center....first I heard of this. After all the hype last year about White...why isn't he playing center? Is Lucier better? Maybe they were just trying something.

Carroll...well, at least he's not holding.

Underwood.....DAM, I was impressed....he was always around the ball. Manuel better get on the field soon or he's gonna being playing behind him.

I really wanted to see Bubba... I don't know why, but I did.

I felt that Chad Clifton - fell off alot last season. I am hoping it was a lack of concentration, due to never knowing who would line up to his right. His knee is a concern.

Marviel Underwood is a player. Solid in College, and I've been hoping for big things from him. He was last season's Abdul Hodge or certainly Will Blackmon.

[Scott Campbell]

He's (Rogers is) fighting for the 5th spot.

I think they'll keep six now. I thought Woodson would be the 6th receiver, but with him skipping the voluntaries I don't see him getting an opportunity to play receiver. So far it sounds like the vets are going to make easier for the rookie receivers to stick.

[Joemailman]

I was pleasantly surprised with the play of our WR's last night. Driver, Jennings, Rodgers, Boerigter and R. Martin all made good plays. This is just pure speculation, but could Fergy's absence due to "personal reasons" mean the Packers are working on a trade?

By the way, could someone please show Nick Barnett a film clip of how Hodge blew through that seam in the blocking to nail the ball carrier? I haven't seen that from a Packer MLB in a long time.

[Scott Campbell]

By the way, could someone please show Nick Barnett a film clip of how Hodge blew through that seam in the blocking to nail the ball carrier? I haven't seen that from a Packer MLB in a long time.

Funny how quickly 40 times, height/weight and other "measurables" become non-issues after the draft. Maybe Sherman was on to something when he fell asleep at the Indy Combine.

[CaliforniaCheez]

I read the packers already plan to use Hodge in short yardage and goal line situations.

It has to be hard these days getting through airport security with the name
Abdul Hadj

[packrulz]

I was gone all day yesterday so didn't watch the scrimmage, but have been catching up on alot of articles. Of course, the ones the fans post are always the best. I like what i'm reading about Favre, Rodgers, Driver, jennings & Hodge...but not too much was mentioned about Hawk anywhere. Did he not participate in alot of the plays or just not do anything too spectacular? How did he do overall?

On one play Rogers scrambled and Hawk was there to touch him, no tackling QB's, but other than that it looked like he was thinking a lot about where he's supposed to be. Hodge was very instinctive and hard hitting. Nick Collins is ok, just a sore back thank God. They need to cover tha concrete in the corner with some foam padding.
Some players I give a thumbs up are:
Ingle Martin: Good arm, nice spirals, confident, a good leader.
Herron & Gado: Both played well, didn't fumble, & Gado pounded in a TD. Ben Brown & AJ Cooper are also interesting. Watching a zone play develop is weird, I keep looking for where the hole is supposed to be & it just develops somewhere.
Johnny Jolly: I love the 93 on him because he plays like a young, healthy Gilbert Brown. He had some push goin' on.
Jason Hunter, Michael Montgomery, & Jerome Nichols: All are high effort every snap.
Punt returns: Both Rogers & Jennings had a nice return. Improving.
Ruvell Martin & Chad Lucas: Both Showed some skills, should make the team.
Overall effort & intensity was very good: lots of chatter out there, better communication, & it's nice that McCarty isn't staring at a stupid laminated script, we watches what's going on & talks to the players & coaches.
Favre: the man's still got it and was communicating well as a leader.
Thumbs down:
Kicking: I'm a little horrified by the kicking game. I guess we were spoiled by Longwell, but both kickers really sucked. Kick offs were improved, but they were missing 39 yarders. Awful.
Catching the ball: A lot of WR/RB/TE's dropped balls that hit them in the hands. Driver & Jennings are good but the other guys need to step up too. I've about had it with David Martin, I want to see more of Zac Alcorn & Tory Humphrey. However, some of the passes were off too, the QB's need to be more precise.
Offensive line: It's going to take awhile, but no glaring issues, they have good players, they need more reps.

[red]

ok, my turn. i didn't get back from the thing until real late, so i didn't do this last night

first off, it was a blast. for the price of going to a movie, this was 50 times better.

second. i agree 100% with that the dude said about jennings looking like a DD clone, those were my thoughts exactly. he's built like driver, he works hard like driver, he plays hard like driver, he makes things happen, and you know you can count on him. you could tell he's going to be a fan favorite in the near future, he did all he could to get the crowd pumped up and he couldn't waid to do the leap. i think he ended up in the stands a couple times on other guys scores. i think he'll be staring by that start of the season. he's ready folks, he sure doesn't look like a rookie

Hodge should be our starting MLB by the end of the season. i think its time to start getting barnett reps at Mike to get him ready for the change. everytime hodge was in and it was a running play it seemed like he was making the tackle, and they were tackles at the line or behind it (at least it looked like it from my view). and holy hell, that hit he had was big, and loud. he deserves the "hitman" title. as for his lower body being kind of small, yeah to me they looked small when he was standing next to hawk, who has giant legs, but when he's near barnett they look about the same size. and even if he does have stick legs, he sure knows how to get everything out of them.

nick collins going down scared the hell out of me, i think i was the only one in my half of the stadium that saw him go down because the wave was going through. everyone is cheering and having a good time, and i'm standing there, OMG OMG OMG OMG. it was a hard fall, but he walked off like he was alright

i thought we were getting rid of the long passes? i think there were 4 or 5 bombs from favre down the field. 2 i thought were bad, the one to gardner wasn't that close, the defender came closer to catching it. and the one to driver was a very good play by driver. and yes, it was against carroll

IMO ingle looked alot better then the other guy, but thats not saying much. what is it worbel had one pass to rodgers where corey turned it into a huge play. other then that the guy looked very nervous and scared, and i can't remember one other pass he completeted

aaron rodgers looked ok. that int was a bad pass. from where i was sitting you could see his field of vision, and as soon as he let the ball go, our whole area was kind of going, what the hell is that. you could tell as soon as it left his hand that it was an int

Green looks like he's in great shape. i would have thought that if you have a massive leg injury that at least that leg would be out of shape. but his legs looked huge and cut

lets see, what else. kampman looks huge, he's been doing a lot of work on his upper body. woodson looks very small. that guy from GVSU is a freaking giant

lets see what else

for those who weren't there, there was a real nice tribute to reggie before it all got started. and for those who don't know it was because he was enshrined today in the nfl HOF.

the wave was going almost non stop it felt like, all night long, and there were beach balls everywhere

TT and MM were standing together quite a bit discussing things

the kickers both suck, TT started to walk of before the rest of the team right when both kickers started missing. the joke by me was that he was running to his office to find a new kicker. but it might not be a joke

fergy being gone is a little odd, i was wondering where he was. was pickett there? i couldn't find him

one of the biggest non favre cheers came when edgar bennett was announced and came out of the tunnel

i think thats all i can remember for now

it was a fun night

[mraynrand]

Guys I liked:

Colledge - he was a road grader on run plays. He just plain fork-lifted a few guys right off the field. Embarrassed Kenny Peterson

Culver - THis guy did something really interesting - twice. He was in double coverage due to his recognition and going to help. Not even Al Harris and other veterans do this routinely. Guy had great recognition, solid tackling. Is playing off (soft) in coverage right now though.

Carroll - Guy competes on every single play. If he can just lear to judge properly what he can get away with regarding contact, he'll be a tough guy to beat. Had perfect coverage on a go to Boerichter and also had solid coverage on same when A-rod threw a perfect bullet for a TD.

Coston - not too bad at LT. Played better staying on his feet and staying in the path of the defender. Gave up a lot of ground to DE push, but kept the DE off the QB. Decent power in the run game.

Tauscher - Absolutely solid. Stoned the DE all night

Hodge - good instinct for stuffing the run, filling thehole. Coverage is another issue

Jennings - smooth as a moutain lake at 5 AM.

Driver - solid solid solid

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Worrisome

Kenny Peterson - has no leverage

Brett Favre - was trying to steer passes. Was lofting passes he would have fired in before. Threw late into double coverage. Chucked one up to Driver

A-rod - see above. Looked OK except for a lot of dropped passes but also threw late into double coverage. At least he was able to fire strong passes for the TD to Bo, and for the sideline pass where AL Harris blew the coverage. Also, threw accurate slants, but overall, a little disappointing

Al Harris - a pro who wasn't wasting energy, Harris blew some coverages and looked like a guy who didn't care much

Gado - ran away from the natural hole. looked fat

[Bretsky]

Fergy hasn't shown up the past six seasons; why should he there there on Family Night as a tribute to the fans. Let him walk.

[mraynrand]

Fergy hasn't shown up the past six seasons; why should he there there on Family Night as a tribute to the fans. Let him walk.
Sometimes, when you move into a new house, the previous owners leave something behind that looks pretty good. But once you start to use it, you realize it doesn't work al that well, it doesn't match your stuff, and you end up getting rid of it anyway.

[wist43]

I was gone all day yesterday so didn't watch the scrimmage, but have been catching up on alot of articles. Of course, the ones the fans post are always the best. I like what i'm reading about Favre, Rodgers, Driver, jennings & Hodge...but not too much was mentioned about Hawk anywhere. Did he not participate in alot of the plays or just not do anything too spectacular? How did he do overall?

Hawk was pretty invisible for the most part. He looked tenative and slow to react. Two plays come to mind:

1) Hawk came on the blitz and was easily shut down by Coston - forget about his 9 1/2 sacks last year at OSU, he's simply not a pass rusher.

2) On Herrons run off RT, Hawk did not take the proper shoulder and was easily sealed inside. The play was designed to go over LG, and there was a hole there, but Herron saw that Taylor was going to fill it, so he cut back right. The middle was clogged, and Hawk should have seen that he had to contain the play inside, instead he took the wrong shoulder and was taken out of the play.

I taped the scrimmage, and went back and looked pretty closely at Hawk... He is clearly behind where he should be, and clearly behind most of the other LB'ers.

Missing most of the mini-camps and OTA's explains some of his tenativness, but even making that allowance, I'm still somewhat concerned.

[esoxx]

Colledge - he was a road grader on run plays. He just plain fork-lifted a few guys right off the field. Embarrassed Kenny Peterson



That's great to hear. The word on Colledge coming out was he was astute in pass protection but needed some seasoning on run blocking. Could have a special player on our hands if he's already looking that good on run plays.

Anyone notice how Jason Spitz performed? I didn't get to see the broadcast.

[esoxx]

wist, I hope your assessement on Hawk's lack of blitz ability doesn't turn out to be true b/c the Packer brass had hopes that he would be a guy that could blitz off the edge from his weak side position and disrupt. That has been a real source of disappointment in the LB play the last few years....the inability to disrupt in the backfield on pass plays when sent. I know it's early, but I'm getting a bad vibe if Hawk can't get around Coston.

[4and12to12and4]

This was my first family night, and it was AWESOME. They do a great job keeping it very entertaining for all ages. They introduced positions as they came out of the tunnel, as the crowd roared for each. Driver came out of the tunnel with the rest of the receivers and the crowd went nuts. He fired us all up the way he ran out.

Great tribute to Reggie, the crowd all started chanting "Reggie, Reggie". It brought tears to my eyes.

What I saw:

Brett looked pretty good, still has a great arm. Driver made a great leaping catch on an ill-advised throw 30 yards downfield into double coverage. Great catch! He also caught a pass into the corner of the end zone from Farve and did the Leap. He's awesome!

Aaron Rodgers was much better than his stats indicate. The second string unit receivers suck, and were dropping easy passes from him that were right on the money. He moves well in the pocket to give himself more time, but threw a couple of duds when running from pressure. It's hard to know whether he would've actually had time to throw those in the pocket, because the d-line had to pull up so as not to sack him. He threw a Favre-esque rocket to Boerighter on a crossing pattern in the back of the end zone with AC having blanket coverage. It was a perfect throw for a touchdown. His best throw of the night. Aaron ran one in for a score and dove into the end zone. He lost the ball as it crossed the line, then he picked it up and spiked it to the ground. I thought that was interesting because if he didn't have the red jersey on, I thought that he would've gotten nailed at the three yard line, but the defender had to pull up.

Cundiff missed from 39, but then nailed one from 49 with plenty of distance left on it. Rayner hit his 39 yarder, then missed his 49 yarder wide left (plenty of distance), then nailed a 52 yarder.

Gado was so-so. He did have a good touchdown run from the ten yard line, where Colledge helped give him a huge hole and he broke a tackle at the five, and AC hit him pretty hard at the one, and he drug him into the end zone. His best run. He has more patience than Herron to find the hole, and then hits the hole hard, whereas Herron runs full speed and if there is a hole that opens right away zooms through it. He did have a real nice 17 yard run. He is so fast!! But, he needs to be more patient for a hole to open.

Ben Brown runs very hard downhill but the second string offense gave him NOTHING to run through!

David Martin dropped a couple but also had a couple of good catches. D Lee dropped his first pass (right on the numbers) but then had some good catches on out routes with some YAC.

The most exciting play was when Wrobel hit Cory Rodgers on a slant off the right side on stride, and Cory juked his way through the middle of the defense and headed upfield. Crowd went nuts, I thought he was gonna score, and AC came from the other side of the field and ran him down as if he was jogging, and Cory was flying too!! AC is fast as hell!!

Speaking of AC, he did a nice job all night. Driver did jump up and catch that ball from Favre with him covering, but that was just a great catch from a great receiver.

Chris Francies was horrible. He was hurting Aaron's stats with drops of perfect passes.

Greg Jennings returned a punt for at least 40 yards and I thought he was gonna score, and then, for some reason didn't even try to juke Ryan, the only guy left, Ryan wrapped him up, and he just stopped running. He was on the sideline, so I don't know whether Ryan trapped him or he just didn't care, it was strange, because he is so fluid, I thought he was gonna juke the socks off Ryan and he ran right into him. ?

As has been said here, Hodge was the MVP of the defense. He had 5 solo tackles, and an third and short, he met Gado head on, straightened him up, and slammed him straight backwards to the ground. It was IMPRESSIVE, expecially considering that Gado is HUGE and usually always finds a way to fall forward.

Hawk disappeared. He did nothing. He was credited with one tackle all night.

Jennings is going to be a playmaker! Favre loves to throw to him, and he doesn't drop it! He will be the No. 2 sooner than later.

Jason Hunter (who?) was a ballhawk. He made some very nice plays. He seems to be a sure tackler, and has good quickness.

Underwood looks very good. He had a great interception on the 1 yard line in a two-minute drill. I don't blame Aaron for the pick because there was 11 seconds left, and he just threw it up there. There's no field goals in scrimmage play. Underwood made a "willie mays" catch over his shoulder. Very impressive.

It is cool to watch the o-line in the zone blocking scheme, it looks so fluid, but there very few holes opening up. I hope that's because of our d-line. Colledge fits the part. Coston wasn't very good. I hope they do alot of gelling in preseason!

Manning did pretty well. He seems very fast and powerful.

Cory Rodgers didn't drop any returns YAY!!, but I noticed that as he catches the ball he almost goes down to his knee, which obviously takes more time for him to come back up and start running. But at least he finally held onto the ball!!

Jennings will definitely be the no 2 or 3 and Hodge seems like he's gonna make it impossible for the staff to keep him on the sidelines in short yardage plays. He is a friggin' animal! I can't wait to watch the game on tv because I want to find out where the hell Hawk was all scrimmage.

William Henderson is FRIGGIN HUGE!!

Fontenot sucked!

Nick Barnett made a very good tackle for no gain. He FLEW into the line.
But it wasn't as good as Hodge's.

Cole, Pickett, and Peterson are all VERY BIG and quick. Not big like out of shape, big in all the right places. I think our defensive line is really going to suprise people.

All in all, neither the offense or the defense dominated throughout, which is good I guess, it's hard to root for either one when they're facing each other.

Oh, one last thing, AC had blanket coverage on, I think Boerighter, on a long pass down the sideline, and there was contact just before the ball arrived, I thought a flag was gonna be thrown, but as I watched the Jumbo replay, when the receiver looked up, AC turned his head to find the ball, and a second later they bumped. It was a good play, it was nice to see him turn to locate rather than fling his arms out at the receiver like he did alot last year.

Well, that's all I can remember right now.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Fergy hasn't shown up the past six seasons; why should he there there on Family Night as a tribute to the fans. Let him walk.
Sometimes, when you move into a new house, the previous owners leave something behind that looks pretty good. But once you start to use it, you realize it doesn't work al that well, it doesn't match your stuff, and you end up getting rid of it anyway.

sounds like ahmad carroll to me.

[wist43]

wist, I hope your assessement on Hawk's lack of blitz ability doesn't turn out to be true b/c the Packer brass had hopes that he would be a guy that could blitz off the edge from his weak side position and disrupt. That has been a real source of disappointment in the LB play the last few years....the inability to disrupt in the backfield on pass plays when sent. I know it's early, but I'm getting a bad vibe if Hawk can't get around Coston.

esoxx,

I make a distinction between the terms "blitzer" and "pass rusher". I think Hawk can be reasonably effective on the blitz - he's instinctive, has good timing, takes good angles, and has the size, speed, and strength to defeat TE's and RB's. I think he will improve the defense with his ability to disrupt the pocket, but he will have to be put into position to do that, i.e. they will have to design their blitzes to ensure that Hawk is matched up with the RB on blitz pick up.

Don't expect Hawk to be coming off the corner either with speed or a physical counter move to beat an OT, ala Shawn Merriman. Hawk is not that type of player. He simply doesn't have the height, length, et al to defeat even an average LT.

[Partial]

Some observations I had:

Clifton needs to get better....fast. The back up LTs need more reps and lot of work. I know they just switched Coston, but we are thinner then thin at LT and the entire tackle position.

Fergie....Personal commitment? What? Whoa? Somethings smells fishy here.

I noticed Chris White was playing LG on 2nd team and Lucier playing center....first I heard of this. After all the hype last year about White...why isn't he playing center? Is Lucier better? Maybe they were just trying something.

Carroll...well, at least he's not holding.

Underwood.....DAM, I was impressed....he was always around the ball. Manuel better get on the field soon or he's gonna being playing behind him.

I really wanted to see Bubba... I don't know why, but I did.

I felt that Chad Clifton - fell off alot last season. I am hoping it was a laclk of concentration due to never knowing who would line up to his right. His knee is a concern.

Marviel Underwood is a player. Solid in College and I've been hoping for big things from him. He was last season's Abdul Hodge or certainly Will Blackmon.

Clifton didn't play. He is an infinitely solid tackle and this system is taylor made for him. I suspect this season if Ahman returns to form, you start seeing Cliffy mentioned with the ranks of Pace, Jones, etc.

[BallHawk]

Great report 12and4. I really like Marviel Underwood, It'd be great if he could really make an impact this year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Cundiff missed from 39, but then nailed one from 49 with plenty of distance left on it. Rayner hit his 39 yarder, then missed his 49 yarder wide left (plenty of distance), then nailed a 52 yarder.

I watched on TV and then both missed from 39. Cundiff then made a 49 yarder and missed a 52 yarder. Rayner missed the 49 yarder and made a 52 yarder, I believe.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Greg Jennings returned a punt for at least 40 yards and I thought he was gonna score, and then, for some reason didn't even try to juke Ryan, the only guy left, Ryan wrapped him up, and he just stopped running. He was on the sideline, so I don't know whether Ryan trapped him or he just didn't care, it was strange, because he is so fluid, I thought he was gonna juke the socks off Ryan and he ran right into him. ?

The returns weren't full contact, so Ryan just had to tap him.

[mraynrand]

Fergy hasn't shown up the past six seasons; why should he there there on Family Night as a tribute to the fans. Let him walk.
Sometimes, when you move into a new house, the previous owners leave something behind that looks pretty good. But once you start to use it, you realize it doesn't work al that well, it doesn't match your stuff, and you end up getting rid of it anyway.

sounds like ahmad carroll to me.

I'm not sure I agree. I saw improvement from Carroll last night. He stayed with everyone, and had better technique in transitioning from covering the man to playing the ball. And he is blazing fast.

[packrulz]

I think people are giving up on Fergy too soon. I don't know why he wasn't there but he must've had a good reason. He works hard, plays special teams, and was here for the OTA's. I remember him making some great catches in games so I don't think he morphed into dog crap. Last year he was playing hurt alot and people saw that as lack of effort. At least wait until he plays, then bash him if he screws up.

[BF4MVP]

At least wait until he plays, then bash him if he screws up.
I agree. It's a new season.

[red]

I think people are giving up on Fergy too soon. I don't know why he wasn't there but he must've had a good reason. He works hard, plays special teams, and was here for the OTA's. I remember him making some great catches in games so I don't think he morphed into dog crap. Last year he was playing hurt alot and people saw that as lack of effort. At least wait until he plays, then bash him if he screws up.

LOL

too soon?

its been 6-years of waiting for him to do something. i think the fans and team have been more then patient enough with him

[GrnBay007]

Just got home from Family Night weekend......what a great time!!!! I highly encourage anyone that gets the chance to attend this next year to do so.

You could really tell Jennings was pumped to be out there. Can't wait to see him play this season!

Did anyone see Ahman right after the warm up gettin down to the music on the sideline? It was funny, he's generally so serious.

We came soooo close to winning his jersey....the seat just a few rows down from us won.

Kids had a great time.....my daughter is now an OFFICIAL Packer lover!! She has finally seen the light!! :mrgreen:

My son got some autographs ....Marquand Manuel and Bubba Franks were the best of the ones he got. Bubba Franks was very cool about signing autographs.

[4and12to12and4]

Cundiff missed from 39, but then nailed one from 49 with plenty of distance left on it. Rayner hit his 39 yarder, then missed his 49 yarder wide left (plenty of distance), then nailed a 52 yarder.

I watched on TV and then both missed from 39. Cundiff then made a 49 yarder and missed a 52 yarder. Rayner missed the 49 yarder and made a 52 yarder, I believe.
Packers notes: Kickers are off the mark PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jason Wilde - Wisconsin State Journal
Sunday, 06 August 2006
GB LogoGREEN BAY - It was only a glorified practice and only 10 kicks. But you can bet more than a few of those folks in the record crowd of 62,701 were thinking about one man at the end of the Green Bay Packers' Family Night Scrimmage Saturday night.

Ryan Longwell.

The Packers let the franchise's all-time leading scorer walk as a free agent during the offseason - he signed with rival Minnesota - and his would-be replacements, Billy Cundiff and Dave Rayner, did little to inspire confidence with their 3-for-5 field-goal performances.

Cundiff missed from 39 and 52 yards, while Rayner missed from 39 and 49 yards before nailing a 52-yarder to end the scrimmage. Still, coach Mike McCarthy tried not to sound alarmed.

"Tonight was their first opportunity with the lights on," McCarthy said. "We'll take this whole preseason to make sure we have the right guys."

Cundiff seemed disappointed but unfazed, saying, "You don't want to miss any inside 40, but I missed it. I want to blow off the miss(es), but I think it's important to take it for what it is. We've got lots of practice left."•

_______________

You're right, Harvey, Rayner missed his 39 yarder also.

I remember after both of them missed from that spot right after one another, the crowd started booing a little. I know I'm a softy, but I felt bad for them, although I really should be feeling bad for us, because it doesn't look so good right now.

By the way, another nice moment was when a young boy fighting cancer sang the national anthem. Again, another teary moment.

[GrnBay007]

By the way, another nice moment was when a young boy fighting cancer sang the national anthem. Again, another teary moment.

He did a very nice job too!!!

[BF4MVP]

Fergy hasn't shown up the past six seasons; why should he there there on Family Night as a tribute to the fans. Let him walk.

Rookie Greg Jennings said he was informed Friday by the coaches that he would start at split end because Robert Ferguson would be missing because of what was thought to be a death in his family.
Say what you will about his ability, but he would never miss this just for the sake of missing it.

[Bretsky]

I agree BF; I would not let him walk due to Family Night Absense; truth be told I'd have traded him to Phily last year for whatever we could get and am fine if they let him walk elsewhere this year for free.

[woodbuck27]

I was gone all day yesterday so didn't watch the scrimmage, but have been catching up on alot of articles. Of course, the ones the fans post are always the best. I like what i'm reading about Favre, Rodgers, Driver, jennings & Hodge...but not too much was mentioned about Hawk anywhere. Did he not participate in alot of the plays or just not do anything too spectacular? How did he do overall?

On one play Rogers scrambled and Hawk was there to touch him, no tackling QB's, but other than that it looked like he was thinking a lot about where he's supposed to be. Hodge was very instinctive and hard hitting. Nick Collins is ok, just a sore back thank God. They need to cover tha concrete in the corner with some foam padding.
Some players I give a thumbs up are:
Ingle Martin: Good arm, nice spirals, confident, a good leader.
Herron & Gado: Both played well, didn't fumble, & Gado pounded in a TD. Ben Brown & AJ Cooper are also interesting. Watching a zone play develop is weird, I keep looking for where the hole is supposed to be & it just develops somewhere.
Johnny Jolly: I love the 93 on him because he plays like a young, healthy Gilbert Brown. He had some push goin' on.
Jason Hunter, Michael Montgomery, & Jerome Nichols: All are high effort every snap.
Punt returns: Both Rogers & Jennings had a nice return. Improving.
Ruvell Martin & Chad Lucas: Both Showed some skills, should make the team.
Overall effort & intensity was very good: lots of chatter out there, better communication, & it's nice that McCarty isn't staring at a stupid laminated script, we watches what's going on & talks to the players & coaches.
Favre: the man's still got it and was communicating well as a leader.
Thumbs down:
Kicking: I'm a little horrified by the kicking game. I guess we were spoiled by Longwell, but both kickers really sucked. Kick offs were improved, but they were missing 39 yarders. Awful.
Catching the ball: A lot of WR/RB/TE's dropped balls that hit them in the hands. Driver & Jennings are good but the other guys need to step up too. I've about had it with David Martin, I want to see more of Zac Alcorn & Tory Humphrey. However, some of the passes were off too, the QB's need to be more precise.
Offensive line: It's going to take awhile, but no glaring issues, they have good players, they need more reps.

Very nice effort there packrulz.

Really liked what you saw in the OL - sounds encouraging.

Yup. Losing Ryan Longwell may cost us a couple of games.

Glad to hear "the Pro-active" is on with MM and the QB's.

Intensity up ! Very encouraging.

Thanks alot. :mrgreen:

HOLD THE FAITH - GO PACKERS in 2006 !

[woodbuck27]

I read the packers already plan to use Hodge in short yardage and goal line situations.

It has to be hard these days getting through airport security with the name
Abdul Hadj

I'm hearing you.

Maybe, he should wear a Packer jersey on flights? A sign that says:

I work with Brett Favre.

[woodbuck27]

Some observations I had:

Clifton needs to get better....fast. The back up LTs need more reps and lot of work. I know they just switched Coston, but we are thinner then thin at LT and the entire tackle position.

Fergie....Personal commitment? What? Whoa? Somethings smells fishy here.

I noticed Chris White was playing LG on 2nd team and Lucier playing center....first I heard of this. After all the hype last year about White...why isn't he playing center? Is Lucier better? Maybe they were just trying something.

Carroll...well, at least he's not holding.

Underwood.....DAM, I was impressed....he was always around the ball. Manuel better get on the field soon or he's gonna being playing behind him.

I really wanted to see Bubba... I don't know why, but I did.

I felt that Chad Clifton - fell off alot last season. I am hoping it was a laclk of concentration due to never knowing who would line up to his right. His knee is a concern.

Marviel Underwood is a player. Solid in College and I've been hoping for big things from him. He was last season's Abdul Hodge or certainly Will Blackmon.

Clifton didn't play. He is an infinitely solid tackle and this system is taylor made for him. I suspect this season if Ahman returns to form, you start seeing Cliffy mentioned with the ranks of Pace, Jones, etc.

Partial:

I have serious concerns about Chad Clifton. I sure hope your right.

[woodbuck27]

Cundiff missed from 39, but then nailed one from 49 with plenty of distance left on it. Rayner hit his 39 yarder, then missed his 49 yarder wide left (plenty of distance), then nailed a 52 yarder.

I watched on TV and then both missed from 39. Cundiff then made a 49 yarder and missed a 52 yarder. Rayner missed the 49 yarder and made a 52 yarder, I believe.
Packers notes: Kickers are off the mark PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jason Wilde - Wisconsin State Journal
Sunday, 06 August 2006
GB LogoGREEN BAY - It was only a glorified practice and only 10 kicks. But you can bet more than a few of those folks in the record crowd of 62,701 were thinking about one man at the end of the Green Bay Packers' Family Night Scrimmage Saturday night.

Ryan Longwell.

The Packers let the franchise's all-time leading scorer walk as a free agent during the offseason - he signed with rival Minnesota - and his would-be replacements, Billy Cundiff and Dave Rayner, did little to inspire confidence with their 3-for-5 field-goal performances.

Cundiff missed from 39 and 52 yards, while Rayner missed from 39 and 49 yards before nailing a 52-yarder to end the scrimmage. Still, coach Mike McCarthy tried not to sound alarmed.

"Tonight was their first opportunity with the lights on," McCarthy said. "We'll take this whole preseason to make sure we have the right guys."

Cundiff seemed disappointed but unfazed, saying, "You don't want to miss any inside 40, but I missed it. I want to blow off the miss(es), but I think it's important to take it for what it is. We've got lots of practice left."•

_______________

You're right, Harvey, Rayner missed his 39 yarder also.

I remember after both of them missed from that spot right after one another, the crowd started booing a little. I know I'm a softy, but I felt bad for them, although I really should be feeling bad for us, because it doesn't look so good right now.

By the way, another nice moment was when a young boy fighting cancer sang the national anthem. Again, another teary moment.

I appreciate your detailed repot. Fine job !

What a site we have to stay up on OUR team. :mrgreen:

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

The biggest play Saturdat night, made by the No. 3 offense . . .

came when quarterback Brian Wrobel hit rookie receiver Cory Rodgers short over the middle and Rodgers broke free for a 64-yard gain. But Rodgers was caught from behind and didn't make it to the end zone, something his fellow receivers won't let him forget.

"I told Cory the next time he gets caught from behind I'm going to beat him up, or we're going to do something to him as a group," Driver said.

"But he knows now the next time he catches that ball down the middle of the field, he takes it to the house

Hey Donald "the Teacher" now . . also - He's da Man !

GO PACKERS !