Hello, I'm a TOOL

[mraynrand]

Really, I am. What's worse than an NFL official? A retired NFL official who passes judgement on other NFL officials. Presented for your discussion: Mike Pereira, former official and current tool.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qjZBTZLchv0/TClC98vWKLI/AAAAAAAAFkY/r74BYpmLYUE/s1600/Mike+Pereira.JPG

[Tarlam!]

O.K. I'll bite, what'd he do?

[mraynrand]

More from the Tool drawer:


Roger W. from Silt, Colo., wrote:

"Why in the Green Bay/Minnesota game Sunday night when Clay Matthews was rushing he was blocked by two people as he was rushing Brett Favre and he took off his helmet. Why wasn't this an unsportsmanlike penalty? Please answer this question."


Tool: Interesting play Roger. The helmet started coming off as he was being blocked. He then pushed it the rest of the way off because it appeared to block his vision. The interesting part is that it is not a foul. The rule book is specific when it states, it is sportsmanlike conduct for "removal of his helmet by a player during a celebration or during a confrontation with a game official or another player." What happened in the Green Bay game was not unsportsmanlike conduct but it was stupid in my opinion. Maybe this is Matthews' solution for not getting called for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless player.

[mraynrand]

Copied from another thread:


Tool, Please talk about the call with Visanthe Shiancoe’s TD that got called back in the Vikings-Packers game. Pretty happy with the call as a GB fan, but did they get it right?

Tool: No, they didn't. The ruling on the field was touchdown. In order to overturn that to incomplete, there has to be indisputable visual evidence that he lost control of the before or after the ball hit the ground. You could make a case that the ball might have been moving a bit on his way to the ground but he still had both hands on it and has it secure enough to deem control. The ball moving is not considered loss of control. It is a judgment call but this was not enough to reverse the call that was made on the field.

(As usual, Mike Pereira talks out of both sides of his ass on this. essentially, he throws his fellow (former) officials under the bus by saying his judgment is correct.)

[Tarlam!]

You're a tough taskmaster.

[denverYooper]

It'd be a lot more entertaining if they just put 50 drunks on the air instead of Pereira. They could pay them in Ripple or McCormick's and probably save money.

And they're the standard, apparently, for deciding the correctness of a call.

[ThunderDan]

It'd be a lot more entertaining if they just put 50 drunks on the air instead of Pereira. They could pay them in Ripple or McCormick's and probably save money.

And they're the standard, apparently, for deciding the correctness of a call.

Like when they did the Schiltz taste test on TV during NFL games.

[HowardRoark]

By the title, I thought maybe Tyrone* was let back in and this thread was to be his mandatory penance.


*How’s it going Ty?

[mmmdk]

Copied from another thread:


Tool, Please talk about the call with Visanthe Shiancoe’s TD that got called back in the Vikings-Packers game. Pretty happy with the call as a GB fan, but did they get it right?

Tool: No, they didn't. The ruling on the field was touchdown. In order to overturn that to incomplete, there has to be indisputable visual evidence that he lost control of the before or after the ball hit the ground. You could make a case that the ball might have been moving a bit on his way to the ground but he still had both hands on it and has it secure enough to deem control. The ball moving is not considered loss of control. It is a judgment call but this was not enough to reverse the call that was made on the field.

(As usual, Mike Pereira talks out of both sides of his ass on this. essentially, he throws his fellow (former) officials under the bus by saying his judgment is correct.)

It is a judgment call - there's the answer. NO TD FOR YOU [Vikings].

[3irty1]

I think he was a great hire by Fox.

[mission]

Michael Douglas?

[mraynrand]

By the title, I thought maybe Tyrone* was let back in and this thread was to be his mandatory penance.


*How’s it going Ty?

He can hear you, but he cannot respond, due to Joe's desire to protect the forum from any embarrassment. Like when I suggested to a fellow Packer fan that he try us out and he saw porn references (which have since been cleared off) and this exciting Packer News:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/excitingpackernews.jpg

[denverYooper]

I especially like the section on Cruise Ship desserts.

[HowardRoark]

How many of the penguins were put on the IR during the escape?

[mission]

Good to see I'm not the only Mac guy here. :)

[Little Whiskey]

Good to see I'm not the only Mac guy here. :)

you and partial

[mission]

Good to see I'm not the only Mac guy here. :)

you and partial

ouch. i thought there was a higher level of general intelligence here. :P

- iMission

[Cheesehead Craig]

More from the Tool drawer:


Roger W. from Silt, Colo., wrote:

"Why in the Green Bay/Minnesota game Sunday night when Clay Matthews was rushing he was blocked by two people as he was rushing Brett Favre and he took off his helmet. Why wasn't this an unsportsmanlike penalty? Please answer this question."


Tool: Interesting play Roger. The helmet started coming off as he was being blocked. He then pushed it the rest of the way off because it appeared to block his vision. The interesting part is that it is not a foul. The rule book is specific when it states, it is sportsmanlike conduct for "removal of his helmet by a player during a celebration or during a confrontation with a game official or another player." What happened in the Green Bay game was not unsportsmanlike conduct but it was stupid in my opinion. Maybe this is Matthews' solution for not getting called for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless player.

They are still complaining here in MN about this play that Matthews should have received a flag. When given this proof, they still say he should have received a flag. It's like the Monty Python skit where they want to burn the witch.

[mraynrand]

I see the tool reference for Mike Pereira has re-emerged. He is still a tool, albeit a more effective tool. If the NFL is going to dramatically change rules to protect players. it's good to have a tool to explain them to us. So long as he's correct, which is more frequently of late, as far as I can tell. At the start, he was like Ed Hoculi without the guns, but he's gotten better.


And yes, Gruden should be muzzled. he is too often awful in his speaking style, surprisingly ignorant, and his voice grates.

[MJZiggy]

And yes, Gruden should be muzzled. he is too often awful in his speaking style, surprisingly ignorant, and his voice grates.

Drives me nuts. I can't listen.

[pbmax]

A tool yes, but I think his poor performance is mainly tied to the completely incomprehensible catch rules that even this year are still being re-interpreted. I think the craftsman is to blame for this tool's poor performance and if I find out Gruden (or his GMs) were on the competition committee, then we'll have another, meaner, anti-Gruden thread.

Starting with the comfy chair.

[Fritz]

The rules seem to have gotten more vague as the game has gone on. In the typical human way - the more descriptive and detailed you try to be about rules, the more perambulation is possible.

[sheepshead]

HAAAAAAAA