The Official Packers @ Falcons Gameday Thread

[Guiness]

Look at the cute internet bully! My digital feelings are hurt! Trying wiping your tears of anger with the keyboard.

Everyone knows that this new board has an 'ignore' feature, right?

I didn't even know he was in the building until some of you quoted him.

[Jimx29]

damn this game is going by fast

[MTPackerfan]

got to do it one more time

[Bossman641]

Come on D!!!! Get the big guys in there.

[pbmax]

Everyone knows that this new board has an 'ignore' feature, right?

I didn't even know he was in the building until some of you quoted him.

Seems undemocratic.

[mmmdk]

Frek it - should've started Matty Ice in fantasy football.

[Bossman641]

Did he even catch that??

[gbgary]

that's incomplete.

[pbmax]

man that was close. But did he maintain possession on the ground?

[MTPackerfan]

what do you think TD or no

[mmmdk]

I knew Atlanta was good but their offense and especially the calls have impressed me - a lot - 'cos Packers D is pretty good even on an average day.

[gbgary]

what do you think TD or no

not even a catch!

[Freak Out]

That fucker dropped it.

[ThunderDan]

man that was close. But did he maintain possession on the ground?

I don't think so but it is hard to tell. I don't think there is enough there to give him a TD.

[Tony Oday]

not even a catch!
agreed

[Brando19]

INCOMPLETE!!!

[Jimx29]

Seems undemocratic.

I agree. I've been on numerous vbulletin boards and the ignore is only realistically used about 2% of the time when people say they use it...that or they have it being used, but bypass the ignore and read the blocked posts anyway

[mmmdk]

agreed

ditto

[Bossman641]

Good penetration but didn't seal the side

[pbmax]

Man they plugged the middle but no one got ahold of the RB and he went wide.

[MTPackerfan]

where is the freaking contain, they had the middle stopped but no one to come from outsdie.

[gbgary]

geesh. review and non-review has killed us. gonna have to win it without any help.

[Sparkey]

nice ankle hold on Hawk, no call. Suprise.

[mmmdk]

I said it before: Turner is a monster!

[Brando19]

MAN this sucks...I hate playing from behind in the fourth quarter. The Falcons don't turn the ball over and rarely punt. COME ON PACKERS!!!! SCORE A TD HERE!

[pbmax]

where is the freaking contain, they had the middle stopped but no one to come from outsdie.

Both Collins and Hawk got caught going inside and then blocked effectively.

[pbmax]

Shields just has little experience. Way too wide and nice contain

[Bossman641]

Shields needs to be smarter with his returns. 2 yards deep, 2 yards from sideline. That's a kneel.

[Brando19]

WTF??!?!?!?? SHIELDS WHAT THE HELL???

[pbmax]

What?

[Jimx29]

cheap call

[gbgary]

since when is a straight arm a penalty?

[mmmdk]

Atanta has a Championship OL, RB, WR, TE & QB. Not so hot on their D but it's OK.

[pbmax]

Man,they do not make this easy on themselves

[Jimx29]

so that's how you slide and don't get touched...hmmmm

[Fosco33]

You've got to be kidding me. These refs have called a questionable game.

[ThunderDan]

since when is a straight arm a penalty?

Exactly, I thought the ball carrier was allowed to do that as long as he didn't grab the mask.

[Fosco33]

Why not use Kuhn? 0 carries. Jackson hasn't touched the ball since losing yards on the pitch and not gaining any yards on 2nd short. Amazing.

[pbmax]

Nice screen and a Kuhn cheer,

[Jimx29]

who's that? :D

[pbmax]

I may have to eat my words about Jacksonville

[Fosco33]

Pack has to score here. Anything less will be a loss.

[gbgary]

You've got to be kidding me. These refs have called a questionable game.

very!

[pbmax]

Pack has to score here. Anything less will be a loss.

Maybe, but they turned field position around and there are two more possessions to go.

[pbmax]

Bad decision.

[red]

5 wide empty backfield QB draw does not work. get it out of the playbook, its not fooling anyone

[Jimx29]

game time play

[Jimx29]

game time play

we're done

[Bossman641]

Don't like the call. Way too early to give up possession at midfield.

[pbmax]

I did not like Rodgers decision to throw to Jones deep needing one and I didn't like going for it on 4th.

[Brando19]

There's the damn ball game. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

[MTPackerfan]

that is what happens when you don't have a running game,

[gbgary]

dammit. need a three and out!

[Packers4Glory]

Nice play calling on 3rd an 4th down an 1 yard to go. Game.

[pbmax]

Maybe, but they turned field position around and there are two more possessions to go.

So much for that.

[PA Pack Fan]

Rodgers needed 3, goes for 30. Stupid

[Jimx29]

bradshaw logic....he has rivers as top under 30 QB. How can you even consider that when the team is 5-5?

[MTPackerfan]

need a TO or at the minimum, 3 and out

[Jimx29]

Rodgers needed 3, goes for 30. Stupid

there's your "why i hate MM" play calling 101

[Guiness]

I agree. I've been on numerous vbulletin boards and the ignore is only realistically used about 2% of the time when people say they use it...that or they have it being used, but bypass the ignore and read the blocked posts anyway

And 72.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot, eh? :grin:

I was just saying there's an ignore feature in case some might be interested in it. He contributes absolutely nothing to the board, ever, and is a pure troll. Mr Blonde goes back to JSO (maybe? Different guy? He claims to be.) and the original reason for us oldtimer's exodus from there. There's no reason to pay any attention at all to what he has to say.

[Carolina_Packer]

Geez, you could complain about having down and distance issues some days, but that's sad. That's just not giving your running game a chance because I think they have more of one than they get credit for if they'd just mix it up more.

[pbmax]

bradshaw logic....he has rivers as top under 30 QB. How can you even consider that when the team is 5-5?

Because Rivers doesn't play Special Teams.

[gbgary]

Nice play calling on 3rd an 4th down an 1 yard to go. Game.

yup. don't have a problem with the passing but 10-20 yards down field?

[mmmdk]

Atlanta > Green Bay; I won't bitch about the fact.

Bad pass by AR - very bad.

[pbmax]

there's your "why i hate MM" play calling 101

That's on Rodgers. Every play has a WR going deep. He choose to throw it to that route.

[red]

zombo is just a worthless body on the field

[Tony Oday]

Ball Game here!!! Lets SACK RYAN!!!!

[Brandon494]

Another classic fuckup game by MM. Great offensive mind but we'll never win the big game with him as the HC.

[pbmax]

And 72.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot, eh? :grin:

I was just saying there's an ignore feature in case some might be interested in it. He contributes absolutely nothing to the board, ever, and is a pure troll. Mr Blonde goes back to JSO (maybe? Different guy? He claims to be.) and the original reason for us oldtimer's exodus from there. There's no reason to pay any attention at all to what he has to say.

Really, same guy?

[Jimx29]

And 72.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot, eh? :grin:

I was just saying there's an ignore feature in case some might be interested in it. He contributes absolutely nothing to the board, ever, and is a pure troll. Mr Blonde goes back to JSO (maybe? Different guy? He claims to be.) and the original reason for us oldtimer's exodus from there. There's no reason to pay any attention at all to what he has to say.

hey... I thought long and hard for those stats ;)

[Tony Oday]

ZOMBO!!!!

[pbmax]

Who dares criticize ZOMBO!

[gbgary]

thank you D! now a good punt return.

[Tony Oday]

AR taking it 90 yards baby!!! GO PACK GO!

[Brandon494]

It sucks to say but I guarntee Rodgers doesnt drive this team down the field for a TD.

[red]

Who dares criticize ZOMBO!

ME, he's had a horrible game

[gbgary]

ok...ball control passing please. short, quick stuff. mix in a run. go deep if it's there...but get first downs!

[Brando19]

It sucks to say but I guarntee Rodgers doesnt drive this team down the field for a TD.

Agreed.

[Bossman641]

It sucks to say but I guarntee Rodgers doesnt drive this team down the field for a TD.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

[PA Pack Fan]

ME, he's had a horrible game

He had a sack, didn't he?

[pbmax]

ME, he's had a horrible game

Hard to argue with the fourth or fifth OLB struggling.

[red]

fox really needs to come out with some more fucking cartoons

[Jimx29]

no, they do not have all 3 timeouts

[pbmax]

And Quarless falls down.

[Jimx29]

fml..........

[pbmax]

no, they do not have all 3 timeouts

They have 2 TOs. Colledge moves.

[pbmax]

Nice catch Qualess over the middle

[gbgary]

good throw and catch!

[Bossman641]

fml..........

What does that mean?

[SkinBasket]

The holding going uncalled on ATL's offensive line is offensive. Easy to have a good running attack when you're akllowed to assrape the defense.

nice keyboard.

go fuck yuorselfs.,

[Bossman641]

Keep it going. Let's go

[gbgary]

lol...Rodgers running upfield to throw blocks.

[Jimx29]

What does that mean?

fuck my life

[ThunderDan]

ME, he's had a horrible game

Zombo has 7 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble.

[Guiness]

ok, this is where it has to happen. Our D has held the vaunted Atl O to 17 pts, the O has to come to the table and show what it's made of.

[Jimx29]

i'm going mum the rest of the way. maybe that'll give atl the kiss of death

[gbgary]

come on Packer O! keep it going.

[red]

how the fuck does he have 7 tackles?

no fucking way

watch the guy, he can't get off blocks to save his life. and numerous times i've watched him just stand in one spot watching everything else happens

[gbgary]

dammit!

[pbmax]

Two years ago that is a TD.

[gbgary]

pleeeease.

[gbgary]

yes!!

[pbmax]

Favre like! Shovel for first.

[red]

they didn't get that snap off, sorry to say

but great play

[gbgary]

come on. touchdown Packers!

[pbmax]

Wow. All day and not even a throw.

[red]

can't hold onto the ball all day

[Brandon494]

Rodgers been watching too many Eagle games, looks like hes trying to be Mike Vick out there today.

[Tony Oday]

ugh I am going to have a heart attack at 32!!!!

[gbgary]

can't hold onto the ball all day

no harm done.

[wist43]

Short yardage, and they're so pathetic at running the ball, they can't even line up in a running formation...

I guess they're honest about it at least :)

[Tony Oday]

Rodgers been watching too many Eagle games, looks like hes trying to be Mike Vick out there today.

OR did Vick spend his time in the big house to learn how to play like AR!!!

[pbmax]

they didn't get that snap off, sorry to say

but great play

The offense gets the benefit of the doubt on all delay of games. If they miss it by less than one second, the officials are instructed to allow it or give them the TO if they take it even with zero on clock.

[ThunderDan]

OK, 3 shots from the 6 yard line. On the plus, ATL has 1 time out left when we score.

[Brando19]

ugh I am going to have a heart attack at 32!!!!

And I am at 26!

[gbgary]

pleeeeese

[wist43]

that's absolutely pathetic... unbelievable

[red]

WTF????

just piss poor play calling today

[SkinBasket]

this is some fucked up playcalling

[MTPackerfan]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rdanomly]

YES!!!

[pbmax]

ALL DAY! NELSON!

[Tony Oday]

BOOM!!!!

[red]

WOWWWW

TD

[gbgary]

way to go jordy

[Brandon494]

AHHHHH JORDY!!!!!! I'LL TAKE MY CROW

[Brando19]

WOW! ME and Brandon were wrong....RODGERS DID IT!

[MTPackerfan]

that's what I'm talking about, way to go ARod

[Bossman641]

It sucks to say but I guarntee Rodgers doesnt drive this team down the field for a TD.

MEGABUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tony Oday]

AHHHHH JORDY!!!!!! I'LL TAKE MY CROW


LOVE IT :) Hell Ill help you eat that one with the result!!!!

[Tony Oday]

NOW ST HOLD UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fosco33]

what a rocket!

Given our OT mark (if we can hold ATL), I would've went for 2.

[pbmax]

It sucks to say but I guarntee Rodgers doesnt drive this team down the field for a TD.

Whoops! I had my doubts as well.

[Guiness]

WOW! and wow, did I have no faith they were going to make that play. What a missile!

[MTPackerfan]

DEF needs to shut down Atlanta NOW!

[ThunderDan]

AHHHHH JORDY!!!!!! I'LL TAKE MY CROW

Well done Brandon! Good job owning up to your posts!

[Carolina_Packer]

No matter the result, you gotta be impressed coming on the road with this effort.

[SkinBasket]

WOW! ME and Brandon were wrong....RODGERS DID IT!

between the two of you, you guys are wrong like 169% of the time, so color me unimpressed.

[pbmax]

AHHHHH JORDY!!!!!! I'LL TAKE MY CROW

Good sport Brandon.

[Fosco33]

CMIII has been invisible today... time for him to get a sack/fumble.

[Tony Oday]

FUCK

[red]

Special fucking teams

[pbmax]

Facemask for the loss. Unbelievable

[MTPackerfan]

FUGGGG

[gbgary]

oh oh!

[Brando19]

son of a bitch.....oh well....fun while it lasted. Knew we couldn't count on special teams.

[Fosco33]

Classic - ST has done nothing for the Pack today.

[Packers4Glory]

What a bunch if dumbfucks

[gbgary]

time for an int

[red]

Facemask for the loss. Unbelievable

that facemask just saved a TD

[Fosco33]

Come on D - time for a turnover!

[Bossman641]

Talk about a fuckin downer

[pbmax]

At least Capers still brought pressure, but no one was close. Need a TO.

[sheepshead]

we're hosed

[SkinBasket]

this is totally ted thompson's fault for not finding better 8th string linebackers.

Nice fucking coverage fellas.

[Bossman641]

Why are the DB's playing off?

[Fosco33]

Dang - tough game. Fumble a TD away - lose it on the non-challenge. This would be a totally different 2nd half with those breaks. Now have to hope for a shank and a chance in OT. Don't like our chances.

[Tony Oday]

MISS IT!!!!

[Fosco33]

Why are the DB's playing off?

Trying to bait for a pick?

[Brandon494]

Hopefully the Falcons will bring out Boise States kicker

[gbgary]

pleeeeeese

[pbmax]

Why are the DB's playing off?

Because they are rushing seven.

[Tony Oday]

MISSSSSSS ITTTTTTT

[Brandon494]

good timeout

[Guiness]

Really, same guy?

Potentially - same name, pretty damn similar attitude. I know MTP kept an eye on him when he showed up, but I don't think he ever go too out of line, or showed the same invasive tendencies he did over there.

[MTPackerfan]

Son of a ...............

[Packers4Glory]

You jus can't come back from a 14 point swing off an endzone turnover.

[pbmax]

Just too many mistakes.

[gbgary]

daaaaaaammit!

[Brandon494]

Another game we just gave away due to MM piss poor play calling

[ThunderDan]

Another ARod 4th Q scoring drive and the ST gives up the OT.

[Tony Oday]

Cmon Shields for 6!!!

[mmmdk]

Better team and head coach won; back on the horse.

[Sparkey]

Home field s\is worth 3 points.

[red]

you have got to fucking fire slocum

my god we've been saying for two years that he will be our downfall

[Jimx29]

i'm going mum the rest of the way. maybe that'll give atl the kiss of death

shit....forgot we don't have a special team team

[pbmax]

Better team and head coach won; back on the horse.

Too many mistakes by the players is more like it. Penalties, fumbles, bad tackling and poor decisions.

[mmmdk]

Another close game; another loss - all adds to previous suckiness in close games for Packers under McCarthy.

Good game though.

But as things are done [in games]; this is what we get.

[Tony Oday]

Well look on the bright side...REALLY hard to beat a team twice ;)

[red]

what the hell was that

we came out and looked, blah, in every aspect of the game today

defense looked nothing like what we were use too, offense looked blah. special teams was it's usual sucky self. and the play calling and decision making were pretty horrible

and we still almost beat the best team in the nfl

[mmmdk]

Too many mistakes by the players is more like it. Penalties, fumbles, bad tackling and poor decisions.

Yup, you just defined what a better team doesn't do and the HC is the playcaller in GB too and hence responsible.

Packers is a good team - will they get over the hump? That's the Q. I think that's a tall task for mediocre McCarthy. Too tall.

[gbgary]

what the hell was that

we came out and looked, blah, in every aspect of the game today

defense looked nothing like what we were use too, offense looked blah. special teams was it's usual sucky self. and the play calling and decision making were pretty horrible

and we still almost beat the best team in the nfl


we played a really good team and nearly won it...even with the mistakes. should have won it. we knew this was going to be a good measuring stick. not that disappointed.

[channtheman]

The playcalling early on the goal line with 3rd and 1 was putrid. I don't know why we ran the ball in those situations. Still Rodgers fumbling took 3 points away. We played just bad enough to lose another one.

[Jimx29]

that facemask just saved a TD

and cost the game cause of no time left on the clock

[ThunderDan]

Another close game; another loss - all adds to previous suckiness in close games for Packers under McCarthy.

Good game though.

But as things are done [in games]; this is what we get.

Huh?? I don't get this.

We played a team that is 8-2 at their place. ATL has all of their offensive weapons and we held them to 20 points.

In all reality we should have won this game. The ST was poor, mistackles all over, the refs miss a dropped pass on 4th down by ATL before half and GB doesn't challenge. And we fumble at the ATL 1 yard line. Any of those and we win the game.

How about ARod sliding feet first 3 times and getting hit on 2 of them and no penalty is called? ATL played a damn good game and we hung with them the whole game even with all of our fuck ups. We held ATL to 315 total yards. Ryan didn't even throw for 200 yards.

Now I'm just rambling.

[Joemailman]

Red zone inefficiency in the 1st half was the reason the Packers lost. Two trips inside the Atlanta 5 yield a total of 3 points. On the other hand, Tony Gonzalez left uncovered in the end zone. :bang:

[Jimx29]

Hopefully the Falcons will bring out Boise States kicker
Can't.....That's TTs first round pick

[DannoMac21]

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/persons/coach-cards/Slocum_Shawn.jpg

[Bossman641]

we played a really good team and nearly won it...even with the mistakes. should have won it. we knew this was going to be a good measuring stick. not that disappointed.

I agree. Certainly disappointed in the loss, but I come away from this game thinkin we can win in ATL.

So much went wrong and we still were a blown ST play from overtime.

[Jimx29]

only consolation I can find today is that the eagles should bury the bears

[mmmdk]

Huh?? I don't get this.

We played a team that is 8-2 at their place. ATL has all of their offensive weapons and we held them to 20 points.

In all reality we should have won this game. The ST was poor, mistackles all over, the refs miss a dropped pass on 4th down by ATL before half and GB doesn't challenge. And we fumble at the ATL 1 yard line. Any of those and we win the game.

How about ARod sliding feet first 3 times and getting hit on 2 of them and no penalty is called? ATL played a damn good game and we hung with them the whole game even with all of our fuck ups. We held ATL to 315 total yards. Ryan didn't even throw for 200 yards.

Now I'm just rambling.

Remember all those stats I posted on how Packers fared in close games? You read my post and it just adds to it. That's what I meant.

And yeah, Atlanta is probably the better team. I fully acknowledge that, Dan.

[channtheman]

Huh?? I don't get this.

We played a team that is 8-2 at their place. ATL has all of their offensive weapons and we held them to 20 points.

In all reality we should have won this game. The ST was poor, mistackles all over, the refs miss a dropped pass on 4th down by ATL before half and GB doesn't challenge. And we fumble at the ATL 1 yard line. Any of those and we win the game.

How about ARod sliding feet first 3 times and getting hit on 2 of them and no penalty is called? ATL played a damn good game and we hung with them the whole game even with all of our fuck ups. We held ATL to 315 total yards. Ryan didn't even throw for 200 yards.

Now I'm just rambling.

And we still lost. Enough of us losing every close game this year. 4 losses all by 3 points each. In every game we made the mistake to lose it while the other team did not. 18 penalties against Chicago. Dropped passes and missed field goal against Washington. Lining up over the center against Miami. Fumbling on the goal line and stupid runs down there as well today.

We are the ultimate almost team.

[ThunderDan]

Can't.....That's TTs first round pick

Really, are we back to this?

ARod, Hawk, Harrell, Raji, CM III and Bulaga

Getting talent to GB sure isn't TT's issue as GM.

[channtheman]

only consolation I can find today is that the eagles should bury the bears

That's the only thing that can salvage today.

[ThunderDan]

And we still lost. Enough of us losing every close game this year. 4 losses all by 3 points each. In every game we made the mistake to lose it while the other team did not. 18 penalties against Chicago. Dropped passes and missed field goal against Washington. Lining up over the center against Miami. Fumbling on the goal line and stupid runs down there as well today.

We are the ultimate almost team.

So would you rather we had been blown out in all 4 losses? We have played 11 games this year and could have/should have won all 11. I'll take that with the injuries we have sustained this year.

ATL is the measuring stick in the NFC and I think we measured up pretty well today.

[channtheman]

So would you rather we had been blown out in all 4 losses? We have played 11 games this year and could have/should have won all 11. I'll take that with the injuries we have sustained this year.

ATL is the measuring stick in the NFC and I think we measured up pretty well today.

I'd rather we win 50% of them. It's unrealistic to expect us to win all of them, but could we please win a couple of them?

[ThunderDan]

And we still lost. Enough of us losing every close game this year. 4 losses all by 3 points each. In every game we made the mistake to lose it while the other team did not. 18 penalties against Chicago. Dropped passes and missed field goal against Washington. Lining up over the center against Miami. Fumbling on the goal line and stupid runs down there as well today.

We are the ultimate almost team.

How about the 1st Viking game and the Jets game? How about the Lions game?

[gbpackfan]

We do seem to have a major problem losing close games. I was happy when we scored the TD but you just get the feeling that the Packers, for the last couple years, cant pull out these types of wins. The special teams and penalties always seems to bite us in the ass. So frustrating. That being said, I will feel a lot better if the Eagles mop up the Bears. But that is no gimmie. The 49ers will PAY next week.

This loss sucks, no doubt. But 7-4 is still a solid record. We move to 8-4 next week most likely and then lock it down for the playoff run. Stay strong cheese heads!

[channtheman]

How about the 1st Viking game and the Jets game? How about the Lions game?

Good point. I think what I might be getting at is that in the close games we lose, WE lose them. The other team doesn't beat us.

[ThunderDan]

Good point. I think what I might be getting at is that in the close games we lose, WE lose them. The other team doesn't beat us.

That I can completely get behind. We seemed to shoot ourselves in the foot a lot.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm not afraid of playing Atlanta again. I do wish we had a running game (this was a game we win with Ryan Grant; Brandon Jackson has reverted to his awful self), but they are beatable. What hurts is Philly gaining an edge for HFA. I say we beat Chicago in the last game for the North title and get the #3 seed. Almost hope Atlanta gets the #2 seed, we beat them in the playoffs, and hope somebody else takes care of Philly for us.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anybody else watch this game and think we are better off playing them in Atlanta rather than Lambeau? I think we have a better team--outside of our running game. Bad weather at Lambeau might give them an even bigger advantage.

I'm not happy, but oh well.

My biggest problem with this game is what happened after Rodgers fumble. Somebody should have told McCarthy to challenge the 4th down catch. Then, why the hell wasn't McCarthy calling timeout when Atlanta had the ball inside our 5 yard line with just under 2 minutes left in the first half? Horrible performance by McCarthy and the guys upstairs on that drive. It very well could have cost us the game. Other than that, we played well and we are every bit as good as the Falcons.

[Fred's Slacks]

Chicago showing up to play today. 14-3

[denverYooper]

Q was a nice surprise today. It'll help if we can depend on him for some Finley-lite play down the stretch. Be nice to see Nance get more touches.

If Rodgers keeps playing that way, he'll get his share of the close ones. Seems jinxed for now but that will even out if he keeps doing his thing. That last drive was big time.

That said, I hate our special teams right now.

[denverYooper]

Chicago showing up to play today. 14-3

14-13 now. Eagles turning it on.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Anybody else watch this game and think we are better off playing them in Atlanta rather than Lambeau? I think we have a better team--outside of our running game. Bad weather at Lambeau might give them an even bigger advantage.

I'm not happy, but oh well.

My biggest problem with this game is what happened after Rodgers fumble. Somebody should have told McCarthy to challenge the 4th down catch. Then, why the hell wasn't McCarthy calling timeout when Atlanta had the ball inside our 5 yard line with just under 2 minutes left in the first half? Horrible performance by McCarthy and the guys upstairs on that drive. It very well could have cost us the game. Other than that, we played well and we are every bit as good as the Falcons.

THANK YOU! My brother and I were watching the game and I was like why isn't he calling timeouts? The Falcons from the five yard line had 2 mins and 2 timeouts, melting the clock only loses you another position. I really think MM is just retarded. I doubt we will ever win a superbowl with him as a head coach. I seriously dislike him. He has by far no game management skills. Say give him a pass on the challenge b/c someone should of told him to challenge. But serious are you that dumb that you can't see that you get an extra position in a close game if you use your timeouts?

It seems that every close game I come on here and ripe MM b/c of something he could have done to give us an edge. Thats why I agree with the saying that good teams find ways to win. Its not just bad luck (like Rodgers fumbling) thats losing us all these close games.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Did anyone else notice Brandon Jackson on that one play when he lost 7 yards. He saw Lofton and decided that losing 7 yards was better than than getting hit hard and making a yard and maybe a first down. Is this guy serious??? He calls himself a running back?? Where the hell is Starks, he can't be wrose than Jackson. I miss Grant (and Finley).

[Lurker64]

We lost a close game on the road against a good team where we came out flat and made more mistakes than they did. I don't see this as anything worth panicking about. 7-4 is a good record.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

7-4 is a average record in the NFC this year. I wouldn't call it a "good" record.

[Fritz]

I really didn't think this team was even all that flat. I think the fumble cost the team, I think MM's coaches let him down by not telling him to challenge the 4th down catch, and I think the special teams on the last kickoff basically cost this team a chance at the win.

I don't blame Wilhelm for the face mask. If he hadn't done that, Weems would still be running. But why did the kickoff return team allow a kick that went three yards deep into the end zone to be returned straight up the gut to the 35 and need a face mask to bring the guy down?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Yep Wihelm saved a TD, can't blame him for doing that. Thats the only way that guy was going down.

[packerbacker1234]

7-4 is sort of middle of the pack record wise in the NFC. Were technically on the outside looking in right now at the playoffs, and we still have 3 very tough games left out of our last 5.

7-4 isn't a bad place to be, but it's not indictiive of us being a good team. We are still a decent team, but some of our weaknesses got uncovered today. Our inability to rush the football or covert 3 and 1's, and without our offense scoring, the inability for our defense to stop the rush.

We are still a good team, but unless AR tosses 3 TD's we're going to have tough picking sto win each week, especially in the playoffs.

[channtheman]

7-4 is sort of middle of the pack record wise in the NFC. Were technically on the outside looking in right now at the playoffs, and we still have 3 very tough games left out of our last 5.

7-4 isn't a bad place to be, but it's not indictiive of us being a good team. We are still a decent team, but some of our weaknesses got uncovered today. Our inability to rush the football or covert 3 and 1's, and without our offense scoring, the inability for our defense to stop the rush.

We are still a good team, but unless AR tosses 3 TD's we're going to have tough picking sto win each week, especially in the playoffs.

The thing that pisses me off so much is we know we can't run and we know we can't convert 3rd and 1, so on two of those instances we run the ball and do not convert. When we don't run on 3rd and 1 though, we throw the ball 20 yards downfield and don't even have a chance. I don't get it.

[Joemailman]

One thing I wouldn't mind seeing is for the Packers to roll out Rodgers more on 3rd and short. His running ability would force opposing LB's into a tough situation as to whether they stay in coverage or come up to meet Rodgers.

[channtheman]

One thing I wouldn't mind seeing is for the Packers to roll out Rodgers more on 3rd and short. His running ability would force opposing LB's into a tough situation as to whether they stay in coverage or come up to meet Rodgers.

I've thought the same thing. I don't know why we don't see it more often. I'd prefer almost anything to the uncatchable 20-30 yard pass though.

[mission]

I kept hoping they were going to be running bootlegs
With Rodgers in those situations. Didnt really happen.

[Fritz]

I don't think this team is as weak in the areas listed by Packerbacker1234. Except for one: running the football. This team just does not run the football well.

I think it's less a problem of running backs and more a problem of the run blocking. Although, of course, a superstar running back would make the line look better. But unless you can find an Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson it's not too likely. I'm not sure if Atlanta's RB Michael Turner could've done much with the lack of room the GB backs had today. And he's a good back.

[Bossman641]

The thing that pisses me off so much is we know we can't run and we know we can't convert 3rd and 1, so on two of those instances we run the ball and do not convert. When we don't run on 3rd and 1 though, we throw the ball 20 yards downfield and don't even have a chance. I don't get it.

And yet, 3rd and 1 resulted in the long pass to Jordy today and I think the TD pass to Jennings last week.

[Jimx29]

14-13 now. Eagles turning it on.

there were who THOUGHT they weren't

[channtheman]

And yet, 3rd and 1 resulted in the long pass to Jordy today and I think the TD pass to Jennings last week.

You know what I'm talking about. The out of bounds 30 yard sideline throw to James Jones that stands NO chance of being completed. I've seen it all too often. Is it too much to ask Rodgers to throw the ball to a guy that has a chance to catch it?

[swede]

I don't think this team is as weak in the areas listed by Packerbacker1234. Except for one: running the football. This team just does not run the football well.

I think it's less a problem of running backs and more a problem of the run blocking. Although, of course, a superstar running back would make the line look better. But unless you can find an Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson it's not too likely. I'm not sure if Atlanta's RB Michael Turner could've done much with the lack of room the GB backs had today. And he's a good back.

If you could point to one free agent RB it would have been nice to pick up it may be Turner. He sure has a pantload of butt-muscle.

Did Atlanta give up a first-rounder to get him?

[swede]

You know what I'm talking about. The out of bounds 30 yard sideline throw to James Jones that stands NO chance of being completed. I've seen it all too often. Is it too much to ask Rodgers to throw the ball to a guy that has a chance to catch it?

That call pissed me off. On third and one you throw that well-covered deep sideline route?

[channtheman]

That call pissed me off. On third and one you throw that well-covered deep sideline route?

We've done it multiple times this year too.

[swede]

We've done it multiple times this year too.

Are you saying we've completed them, or attempted them in futility?

[channtheman]

Are you saying we've completed them, or attempted them in futility?

Attempted them in futility. As in, I've been screaming at the TV wondering why we throw that pass.

[Fritz]

But wasn't that deep ball to Jordy Nelson earlier (where he went out at the one) on a third and short???

[Joemailman]

But wasn't that deep ball to Jordy Nelson earlier (where he went out at the one) on a third and short???

But he completed that one, so It's a good decision. ;-)

Actually though, I do think Aaron goes downfield too much on 3rd and short. 2nd and short is really where you want to take your chances downfield.

[channtheman]

I'm not saying throwing deep on 3rd and 1 is a bad choice. I'm saying throwing a ball out of bounds to a covered guy is a bad choice. Rodgers has done that many times this year on 3rd and 1. If the guy on the sideline is covered, there has to be someone else who was open for a yard. I'm surprised more people haven't noticed what I'm talking about. :S

[Bossman641]

I'm not saying throwing deep on 3rd and 1 is a bad choice. I'm saying throwing a ball out of bounds to a covered guy is a bad choice. Rodgers has done that many times this year on 3rd and 1. If the guy on the sideline is covered, there has to be someone else who was open for a yard. I'm surprised more people haven't noticed what I'm talking about. :S

Jones had a step and was just as open as Nelson was. Only difference was Rodgers missed the throw.

[pbmax]

Anybody else watch this game and think we are better off playing them in Atlanta rather than Lambeau? I think we have a better team--outside of our running game. Bad weather at Lambeau might give them an even bigger advantage.

I'm not happy, but oh well.

My biggest problem with this game is what happened after Rodgers fumble. Somebody should have told McCarthy to challenge the 4th down catch. Then, why the hell wasn't McCarthy calling timeout when Atlanta had the ball inside our 5 yard line with just under 2 minutes left in the first half? Horrible performance by McCarthy and the guys upstairs on that drive. It very well could have cost us the game. Other than that, we played well and we are every bit as good as the Falcons.

No. Fewer turnovers and better execution in the redzone put the Packers ahead in a rematch. That negates Atlanta's strengths. The only time I would fear them more is if they have the lead late at Lambeau and can just run out the clock.

But we are back to the same question this team presented when it was 3-3. They can compete and beat every team in the NFC (and I think in the AFC), but they have to stop killing themselves with mistakes. Philly is beatable and so is Chicago. But not when the team gives away field position and red zone opportunities.

[pbmax]

But he completed that one, so It's a good decision. ;-)

Actually though, I do think Aaron goes downfield too much on 3rd and short. 2nd and short is really where you want to take your chances downfield.

I agree with this. That completion to Jordy was a bad decision as well. Just because that was completed doesn't mean it was the right call. Rodgers needed first downs at both points of the game. And he took a shot on 3rd down instead. One of the things that got the offense back on track for the past three weeks were short passes. The middle was open all day. On third down and short when you are behind on the road, you don't take the chance. You take the first down. Then on 1st down or 2nd and reasonable, you take a shot.

[pbmax]

Yep Wihelm saved a TD, can't blame him for doing that. Thats the only way that guy was going down.

If they score a TD the Packers get the ball back with time and TOs on the clock. This way, the Falcons could just bleed the clock. The facemask made bad KO coverage worse and cost them the clock.

[pbmax]

The run blocking was nothing to write home about but Jackson was awful today. He had two decent rushes that I can recall. Just make one cut and go for two yards. Stop dragging it out wide and making another move.

[pbmax]

That call pissed me off. On third and one you throw that well-covered deep sideline route?

I am still doubting that was the call. Every play has at least one deep route. I think Rodgers is doing a Favre impersonation and looking only for single coverage. At another point in the game or another down, the matchup is worth the risk. Not 3rd and short when behind on the road.

[Joemailman]

Shouldn't this situation have called for a time out or audible?
On the Packers' second possession, they faced a third-and-1 on the Falcons' 4-yard line, trailing, 3-0. Dimitri Nance, who gained 37 hard-fought yards against Minnesota the week before, took the handoff and was met almost immediately by Falcons linebacker Coy Wire for no gain.

"I hit the hole, and a linebacker was right there," Nance said. "I just couldn't get it converted. It was just tough to get yards. They did a pretty good job in stopping us."

Mason Crosby kicked a 22-yard field goal to tie the score, but the Packers, playing on the road against one of the NFC's top teams, needed touchdowns.

McCarthy took the blame for the call on Nance's run.

"That's a bad play selection on my part, the first third-and-1 down there when we kicked the field goal," he said. "They substituted their goal-line defense late."

[Fritz]

Yes, I think a timeout once the defense was recognized might've helped.

[denverYooper]

Yes, I think a timeout once the defense was recognized might've helped.

M3 claimed that he tried to take a timeout at that point but didn't get it.



(How much confidence do you have in your short-yardage running game?)
Short yardage? Well the third-and-one in the goal line, I actually tried to call a timeout, that’s a bad play selection on my part, the first third-and-one down there where we kicked the field goal. They substituted to a goal line defense late and frankly, I didn’t like what I saw in some of the running game, and we felt very good about the match-ups we had outside, so that’s why we went with so much spread.

[Joemailman]

I think the failure there is on Rodgers. He certainly has the leeway to call Timeout or an audible if the opponent is in a defensive alignment that is likely to stop the called play.

[Pugger]

The run blocking was nothing to write home about but Jackson was awful today. He had two decent rushes that I can recall. Just make one cut and go for two yards. Stop dragging it out wide and making another move.

BJ runs like he was trained at Arthur Murray. :p

[GBRulz]

This was the first away Packer game that I've been to for several years, but one thing that I found interesting, or perhaps unfair, is the replays they show. Quite often, we see M3 and company looking up at the big screen to see the replay before tossing a flag (not that it seems to help him). Yet, in Atlanta, they never showed replays after questionable calls for the Packers, but they did for things that were in Atlanta's favor. For example, Jordy's catch. The fumble at the goal line we never got to see, either.

P.S. Watching football games inside absolutely sucks and is a totally different atmosphere.

[GBRulz]

btw, first time I've posted on PR in months, but what is with this senior member crap? I'm not that old ;)

[Joemailman]

This was the first away Packer game that I've been to for several years, but one thing that I found interesting, or perhaps unfair, is the replays they show. Quite often, we see M3 and company looking up at the big screen to see the replay before tossing a flag (not that it seems to help him). Yet, in Atlanta, they never showed replays after questionable calls for the Packers, but they did for things that were in Atlanta's favor. For example, Jordy's catch. The fumble at the goal line we never got to see, either.

P.S. Watching football games inside absolutely sucks and is a totally different atmosphere.

Greetings! Next time Atlanta comes to Green Bay, we'll just run Sargento Cheese commercials instead of replays that might help them.

Darn weather here is finally starting to cool off. Coming north for Christmas?

[MichiganPackerFan]

btw, first time I've posted on PR in months, but what is with this senior member crap? I'm not that old ;)

It's not like you're called "Depends Rat"

[Pugger]

This was the first away Packer game that I've been to for several years, but one thing that I found interesting, or perhaps unfair, is the replays they show. Quite often, we see M3 and company looking up at the big screen to see the replay before tossing a flag (not that it seems to help him). Yet, in Atlanta, they never showed replays after questionable calls for the Packers, but they did for things that were in Atlanta's favor. For example, Jordy's catch. The fumble at the goal line we never got to see, either.

P.S. Watching football games inside absolutely sucks and is a totally different atmosphere.

Evidently this goes on all over. I submit we pulled this on MN and didn't show replays of Quarless' TD either. From what I gather the coaches upstairs do not have access to the networks' feeds. At home we could see on Fox's replays that Gonzales didn't control that ball all the way thru so that catch probably gets overturned if MM challenged it IF his assistant coaches could have seen the replay before the next snap. This issue should be addressed by the league and corrected in 2011.

[Fritz]

Why not hire an assistant coach to sit in front of his TV at home and watch the game, and call McCarthy on his cell phone once the assistant sees the television replays?

[denverYooper]

Why not hire an assistant coach to sit in front of his TV at home and watch the game, and call McCarthy on his cell phone once the assistant sees the television replays?

Are you offering your services?

[Fritz]

No, not me. My Comcast feed is about six or seven seconds behind everyone else's. I found this out when I was talking to a friend on the phone during a game last year. My friend lives in a different service area of Comcast than I do. So we're talking, and I'm watching the Packer defense set up, when all of a sudden my friend on the other end of the phone starts yelling "Oh NO!" I said "What, what?" and he tells me that the opposing offense just completed a touchdown pass - and here I am, still watching the players line up for the play.

So no, not me. But what a sweet job that would be! Get some Packerrats in a room, ply them with beer and brats, and give them MM's cell phone number. It could work!

[channtheman]

Why not hire an assistant coach to sit in front of his TV at home and watch the game, and call McCarthy on his cell phone once the assistant sees the television replays?

I asked why we don't do this and I was told that it is against the rules.

[swede]

I asked why we don't do this and I was told that it is against the rules.

Wow! But allowing the home team to screw with the video feed is okay?

[LP]

[QUOTE=Fritz;552715] Get some Packerrats in a room, ply them with beer and brats, and give them MM's cell phone number. [QUOTE]

OH...MY...GOD...

You gotta film this. You just gotta.