The Official Packers @ Falcons Gameday Thread

[Tarlam!]

Have at it, Rats! Here's hoping the Packers win in spectacular fashion and I'm starting the thread next week!

Cheers!!

[packrulz]

A win Sunday against Atlanta Falcons crucial if Green Bay Packers want home field advantage in playoffs
NOVEMBER 27, 2010
The Green Bay Packers will play their most important regular-season game in three years today against the Atlanta Falcons at the Georgia Dome.
While the Falcons might not stir up the same kind of buzz for the Packers as the Brett Favre-led Minnesota Vikings, the matchup has huge implications. So much so that Packers players this week didn’t even bother trying to downplay the game’s significance.

“Not to sugar-coat it or nothing, but it’s a big one,” said receiver James Jones. “It’s a big game. They’re 8-2 in the NFC. Everybody is shooting for this playoff run. Everybody wants homefield advantage. It’s a big game and we know the impact this game can take down the road.”

What’s at stake is the chance to claim the No. 1 seed in the NFC and homefield advantage throughout the playoffs. Win and the Packers have a legitimate shot to claim that prize. Lose and they can kiss those hopes good-bye.

Not since a Nov. 29, 2007, game at Dallas, with both the Packers and Cowboys sporting 10-1 records, has so much been on the line in a late-season matchup. The Packers lost in Dallas that day, and now almost exactly three years later, they are looking for a better result.

The Packers (7-3) can’t afford to lose ground to the Falcons, who own the best record in the NFC.

“You don’t really want to fall two games plus a tie-breaker behind the Falcons,” said quarterback Aaron Rodgers. “We need to start thinking about homefield advantage and the playoffs, should we be fortunate enough to get there. This is a big game for us.”

How important is homefield advantage? In four of the past six seasons, the No. 1 seed in the NFC qualified for the Super Bowl. The Packers haven’t captured the top seed since 1996, which was the last time they won the Super Bowl.

Players are trained to approach each regular-season game the same, but it’s been difficult this week for the Packers to treat the Falcons as just another opponent.

“You try not to think about it because it’s November, but it’s in the back of your head,” said guard Josh Sitton. “It could potentially be a playoff implicating game.”

It won’t be easy for the Packers, considering Atlanta’s stellar 18-3 home record under coach Mike Smith. But the Packers can counter with some impressive records of their own under Mike McCarthy, including 10-3 in domes and 21-16 overall on the road.

Both teams feature talented quarterbacks that were thrust into starting roles in 2008. Both teams own four-game winning streaks, and both have been playing fundamentally sound and haven’t committed a turnover in the last three games.

“We know how important this game is,” said guard Daryn Colledge. “This is a big game. Atlanta’s controlling the NFC right now. We’d like to be a part of that talk.”

The only way the Packers become part of that discussion is by beating the Falcons.

There will be five weeks of regular-season football remaining after this game, so no one is suggesting this is a win-or-else clash. But the Packers’ playoff path would become much less treacherous with a victory today.

[packrulz]

In Year 2, Capers has Packers sold on his 3-4 philosophy

By Steve Wyche NFL.com
Senior Writer
Published: Nov. 23, 2010 at 10:07 p.m. Updated: Nov. 25, 2010 at 12:45 p.m. Liked: 11 | Comments: 90

There are reasons why Packers outside linebacker Clay Matthews -- the NFL sacks leader with 11.5 -- is having a special season, why recently little-known cornerback Tramon Williams might be playing better than most cornerbacks in the NFL, and why an injury-depleted Green Bay defense has allowed just 10 points over the past three games.

Those reasons might also lead the Packers to the Super Bowl.

"Everyone has bought in," a Packers team source said.


This isn't the same old football-speak about everyone being on the same page. The translation is that in Year 2 of defensive coordinator Dom Capers' version of the 3-4 defense, players understand their roles. They know that in certain cases they have to occupy two blockers so Matthews has an unimpeded path to the quarterback. Williams and fellow cornerback Charles Woodson have to be incredibly efficient in man coverage at times to allow disguised stunts to work effectively.

To pacify egos, something Capers and his staff found out last season, those who sacrifice stats and making plays also have packages designed for them to flash. That's a huge deal because if players don't feel like they're being put in position to succeed, they won't always give you premium effort (see Albert Haynesworth).

Last season, a lot of players in Green Bay were reluctant to embrace the change from the 4-3 front because it marginalized their playmaking skills. Outside linebacker Aaron Kampman's showed displeasure with having to move from defensive end to outside linebacker, a change that did not play to his pass-rushing strengths. Several other players weren't pleased about the switch either, but that's changed now.

"Guys weren't always receptive, but now they understand that there is a role and packages for everybody," the source said. "Guys are playing so unselfish, and they're realizing that when they do their jobs so someone else can make a play, it's just as rewarding."

Green Bay is second in points allowed (14.6) and 12th overall in yards allowed (323.4). They've forced 21 turnovers, including 15 interceptions -- three of those returned for touchdowns.

Players also trust Capers.

In the Packers' 31-3 victory over the Vikings last week -- Brad Childress' last game as head coach -- Green Bay's game plan worked as it was drawn up. Early on, the Packers dared Brett Favre to throw by stacking the box to stop Adrian Peterson and locking up the wide receivers on the edges in man coverage. Nothing new compared to what most teams do. They held Peterson to 72 yards.

In obvious passing situations, Green Bay also ran zone blitzes that applied pressure to the defense's left -- Favre's right -- because Favre prefers to break containment in that direction, and his mobility moving back to his left isn't what it was, the source said. Pressure also was schemed to be applied up the middle because Favre isn't as comfortable on the move, the source said. Adding to things, Green Bay's defensive backs were able to knock Minnesota's receivers off their routes.

Also playing into things, the Vikings' offense wasn't overly diverse, the source said. The same could be said for the 8-2 Jets, who were shut out by the Packers on Oct. 31.

That won't be the case Sunday when Green Bay travels to Atlanta to face the 8-2 Falcons in what could turn out to be the game of the week. Not only are the Falcons nearly unbeatable at the Georgia Dome (QB Matt Ryan is 18-1 as a starter at home), they have the best offense the Packers have seen this season, the source said.

"They have plays they can run two ways, they have run-pass options on so many plays," the source said. "They have so many looks. (Offensive coordinator) Mike Mularkey has put together some serious stuff. The quarterback is really comfortable, and he gets rid of the ball. They are really good.

"The offensive line is really good, collectively. Individually, there isn't a Pro Bowler there, but as a group they block through the play, they're tough and they work really well together."

And then there's wide receiver Roddy White.

"He's a complete player," the source said. "He's doing things like catching the curl and hook routes he wasn't so good at a few years ago and his yards after the catch, he's really good once he gets the ball in his hands."

Based on what Green Bay has done at times this season, I'd expect Williams to tail White for most of the game, which won't be easy because the Falcons use White from every receiver-eligible spot on the field.

The Packers are looking forward to the challenge, which leads us to the main reason why the defense is playing at such a high level.

"On Victory Monday (this week) there wasn't an empty meeting room," the source said. "Guys were in there watching film and really preparing. That's been the most incredible thing about this, the way guys have taken to preparation and film study on their own. They really want to be good."

The contagious work ethic can't be taken lightly. How else can you explain why a unit that has been hit hard by injuries is arguably playing its best with several frontline players on the shelf?

[Joemailman]

The big thing about the Falcons is that they don't beat themselves with penalties and turnovers. If the Packers want to win, they have to continue to play relatively error-free football.
If they can do that, they have a real chance because I think the Packers are better on defense.

When a lot of people last week were a little nervous about the Viking game, my gut was telling me the Vikings were done and that the Packers would dominate. My gut this week says Packers in a close one.

Packers 23
Falcons 20

[denverYooper]

"On Victory Monday (this week) there wasn't an empty meeting room," the source said. "Guys were in there watching film and really preparing. That's been the most incredible thing about this, the way guys have taken to preparation and film study on their own. They really want to be good."

One thing I've noticed over the last month or two is that players frequently mention film study. I've read quotes from Raji, Williams, Collins, Pickett, Shields, and Woodson all make a reference to "something they saw on film". Collins and Shields have mentioned that they learned how to study from Wood and I feel like his study habits have influenced a lot of guys on that D even outside of the secondary. I don't ever remember the players ever seeming so involved in film study but I really think their zeal for that aspect of preparation has really helped the defense raise their game.

All teams and players study film but it is huge to have a veteran player like Wood who has an effective system of film study (http://tompelissero.com/pg_film.html) and is willing to impart his methods to any of his teammates.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Let's get it done.

[bobblehead]

Ok, a gambler would point out that the Pack is coming off a huge emotional victory against a division rival and is due for a letdown. Fortunately I don't bet on Packer games. This is also a huge game and no way we let down. Too many playoff implications.

Pack 34 Atl 17 in a game that is closer than the score will indicate.

[ThunderDan]

I am going to be torn this afternoon. I am in a poker tournament to win a seat in an event in Nassau that is going to run from 11-4. So I will have the computer running the tourny and watching the Packers on the big screen. It's not going to leave much time for posting in the game day thread.

Thanks for the articles packrulz.

[RashanGary]

I like our chances. The Falcons are good. If we can play solid ST's, low penalties and win the turn over battle . . . . . That's a lot to ask, but that's how we've been playing. If we do those things, I think our offense and defense are good enough to beat them. That dome is nasty to play it, but we're good on the road, even in loud domes. . . . .

I'm going to be horribly disappointed if we lose. Winning pumps our hopes for a championship through the roof.

[Tony Oday]

We crush them easy! 35-3

[denverYooper]

Inactives: Bigby, Smith, Starks, Briggs, McDonald, Newhouse, D. Lee and Wynn

Quarless is starting...

I'm pretty surprised to see that Donald Lee is inactive.

[channtheman]

Lets go Packers! We show we are the dominant team in the NFC today!

[gbgary]

we just need to keep doing what we've been doing recently. defense has been big, the o has been good and taken pressure off the d, keep getting turnovers and keep the penalties down. Packers get the win!

[Tony Oday]

We beat them so bad a 7-4 coach gets fired!!!

[gbgary]

We beat them so bad a 7-4 coach gets fired!!!

lol...THIS!

[mmmdk]

Packers owe me a win versus Falcons; I'm still miffed about loss two years ago at Lambeau. :smack:

[imscott72]

Go Packers! Time to show the league who the best team is!

[imscott72]

Packers owe me a win versus Falcons; I'm still miffed about loss two years ago at Lambeau. :smack:

I'm still miffed witnessing the first ever home playoff loss against these damn birds..

[RashanGary]

I actually watched the pregame show today. Terry had his top QB's under 30. Rodgers came in at #3 after Rivers and Rothlisberger. Seemed like a decent list.

[RashanGary]

Surprised three of them took the Packers.

[CaptainKickass]

obligatory game day post

[Fosco33]

50-50 shot at a W today. Have to hold Falcon's running game in check and exploit their pass D. Need a big ST play and a few turnovers. Game comes down to the 4th Q.
Can't predict a score in this one - but I think both teams will score in the 20s.

[Fosco33]

I actually watched the pregame show today. Terry had his top QB's under 30. Rodgers came in at #3 after Rivers and Rothlisberger. Seemed like a decent list.

I didn't know Frank Caliendo was from MKE.

[pbmax]

Only got pressure twice so far.

[pbmax]

There we go!

[pbmax]

And a stop. Good to take advantage of their penalty

[pbmax]

Where are the Rats?

Thought that FG was going wide right.

[gbgary]

not bad. adjustments will be made.

[Bossman641]

Slow start for the defense but I'm confident they get it figured out.

[packrulz]

I am going to be torn this afternoon. I am in a poker tournament to win a seat in an event in Nassau that is going to run from 11-4. So I will have the computer running the tourny and watching the Packers on the big screen. It's not going to leave much time for posting in the game day thread.

Thanks for the articles packrulz.
Good luck in the tournament. Go Pack!

[packer4life]

not bad. adjustments will be made.

anyone got a good live feed?

[pbmax]

Played a lot of base in that series. Pass rush was not fast.

Shields came out with the ball way too late. SHould have downed it.

[pbmax]

http://atdhe.net/29482/watch-green-bay-packers-vs-atlanta-falcons

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=94649&part=sports

[packrulz]

Is Abraham playing?

[pbmax]

Not a good sign when Biermann can catch your QB

[pbmax]

Is Abraham playing?

Yes, he is 55,.

[pbmax]

Short of a first down.

[pbmax]

Should have reviewed that unless I misunderstand when the QB gets marked down on a slide.

[Jimx29]

nice challenge

[pbmax]

That's the dumbest rule enforcement I have ever seen.

[gbgary]

come on ref. lol

[Packgator]

That's the dumbest rule enforcement I have ever seen.

What a cheap penalty. By rule is guess it is a penalty but it had nothing to do with the play.

[Zool]

Any other streams? Wrong audio on that one.

[ThunderDan]

Good luck in the tournament. Go Pack!

Busted out AK vs TT

On Rodgers slide wasn't he touched by the LB? I thought if a QB slides feet first you can't touch him. If Rodgers didn't duck the LB would have hit him head to head.

[pbmax]

What a cheap penalty. By rule is guess it is a penalty but it had nothing to do with the play.

Of course it was Bush that did it.

[pbmax]

ZOMBO!

[Jimx29]

ZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThunderDan]

Keep the sword to yourself Zombo! Great sack!

[Tony Oday]

ZOMBO!!!!

[pbmax]

Dumb block Packers.

[ThunderDan]

On Rodgers slide wasn't he touched by the LB? I thought if a QB slides feet first you can't touch him. If Rodgers didn't duck the LB would have hit him head to head.

Just asking again?

[Jimx29]

seriously.....how does that block in the back even happen? It's the most stupid penalty in the game. whoever does it should be sat down for the rest of the game W/O pay

[packer4life]

field position field position field position

[pbmax]

Just asking again?

You can't hit the QB but you can tag him down, even though technically it isn't necessary. Not sure about the helmet to helmet if Rodgers doesn't duck.

But he did not hit the ground until the ball was past the 1st down marker. But if rule is he is down when he starts the slide, then the spot was correct.

[Tony Oday]

Wow B Jack attacking

[gbgary]

great catch dd!

[ThunderDan]

You can't hit the QB but you can tag him down, even though technically it isn't necessary. Not sure about the helmet to helmet if Rodgers doesn't duck.

But he did not hit the ground until the ball was past the 1st down marker. But if rule is he is down when he starts the slide, then the spot was correct.

THe LB was leading with his helmet it wouldn't have been a touching if ARod didn't get flat on the turf.

[Tony Oday]

RUN RIGHT!!!!!

[pbmax]

Jackson needs one faster step. But does not have it.

[pbmax]

Quarless just decleated Biermann

[Tony Oday]

Jackson needs one faster step. But does not have it.

Or one more damn block!!!

[packer4life]

embarrassing. we are running the no huddle and are still forced to take a time out haha

[pbmax]

Any other streams? Wrong audio on that one.

Try this page, there are several choices:

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=94649&part=sports

[Guiness]

Can't seem to get a feed going. Anyone have a working one from the second link pbmax gave us?

I love the description of Jenning's catch

(5:05) A.Rodgers pass short left to G.Jennings to GB 45 for 30 yards (J.Abraham).30 yards is short left? What do you have to do for a deep pass???

[pbmax]

ONE CUT Brandon! But 4 yards looks great compared to rest.

[ThunderDan]

Jackson is so average. He makes the nice cutback to the hole and instead of hammering he tries to make another move.

[Jimx29]

Any other streams? Wrong audio on that one.
are you at this one? http://www.atdhe.net/index.html

[pbmax]

Can't seem to get a feed going.

I love the description of Jenning's catch


30 yards is short left? What do you have to do for a deep pass???

They mean the original target placement of the pass. I would have called it medium

[gbgary]

come on Pack!

[pbmax]

How did he not get that with the hoile that was there?

[gbgary]

short. do we go for it?

[ThunderDan]

How many times on 3 and 1 do we run that play? And we get stopped almost everytime.

[ThunderDan]

How many times on 3 and 1 do we run that play? And we get stopped almost everytime.

There has got to be more than 2 plays on the fucking play chart for 3&1 and 4&1.

[Guiness]

are you at this one? http://www.atdhe.net/index.html

That link gives me nothing (in FF). Do you need a plug-in of some type?

[Jimx29]

There has got to be more than 2 plays on the fucking play chart for 3&1 and 4&1.*Note who the coach is*

[gbgary]

chillar hurt on that kick return. arm or something.

[Jimx29]

That link gives me nothing (in FF). Do you need a plug-in of some type?

You do need to d/l their v-share software to view, but I see (hear) now that that stream does have the audio from another game. Great video though.

[Fosco33]

Not sure what our gameplan is so far - did they see the middle of the field open on pass attempts thereby letting Arod get some yards? Tough to end 2 drives on down and inches to go.

Like the pressure on the last series.

Looked like chillar got dinged on the kickoff coverage...

[Guiness]

Good coverage on that 3rd and 3

[gbgary]

way to go Packer D!

[pbmax]

That link gives me nothing (in FF). Do you need a plug-in of some type?

A lot of atdhe sites use vshare, which I have never gotten to work on a PC with Firefox.

[Fosco33]

Nice D - again. Let's take one to the house - need somethign on ST.

[pbmax]

Good coverage on that 3rd and 3

I am a little worried he was behind Woodson and no safety was deep. Might have been the coverage call but that play could have really hurt.

[ThunderDan]

ST are anything but "special" today so far.

[packrulz]

Not sure what our gameplan is so far - did they see the middle of the field open on pass attempts thereby letting Arod get some yards? Tough to end 2 drives on down and inches to go.

Like the pressure on the last series.

Looked like chillar got dinged on the kickoff coverage...
Chilly needs to cover Gonzalez, uh-oh

[Fosco33]

What do we do this offensive series. Backed up again... Let's get Arod in some rhythm with some short passes. The obligatory attempt at running with Jackson?

[Jimx29]

better call that one

[pbmax]

WOOT! Swain nice route and run

[gbgary]

swain looks like a maniac out there. lol

[pbmax]

Offensive game plan? 5 wide and stress the bad secondary. Rodgers had another option there that wasn't double covered.

[gbgary]

threw it too soon. one more tick for jennings to separate would have been a td.

[Guiness]

Swain really threaded the needle between two defenders on that play!

[pbmax]

Jones just does not hold on to the ball. Though that was a big slam.

Nice protection./

[Fosco33]

2nd series with GB getting a big play to get outta their goalpost shadow - and then another PF. Love seeing some shorter passes here.

[pbmax]

Wrong protection that time. Unblocked OLB to passer

Larry says it was run pass option

[pbmax]

Rhytm obtained by QB. Nice short throws when first read not there.

[pbmax]

He held on that time. Good run Jones.

[Fosco33]

Love the quick out to Jones and let him pound for extra 5 yards.

[Fosco33]

Rhytm obtained by QB. Nice short throws when first read not there.

Definitely.

[MadScientist]

first and goal. Punch it in!

[Guiness]

anyone got a streamtorrent to work?

[pbmax]

Not the best throw

[Fosco33]

Interesting call to a toss to the FB... why did we have 2 guys in the same space. Blown?

[pbmax]

Colledge whiffed on QB sneak

[pbmax]

Fumble

[Fosco33]

jesus...

[MadScientist]

Fuck!

[Jimx29]

if he fumbled in the end zone, how is that not a TD?

[Brandon494]

Should be up 14-3 right now un fucking real!

[Fosco33]

thanks for no replay Fox... Why is Arod our primary rb today? Man I wish we had Grant.

[pbmax]

http://www.vissattv.info/2010/11/ch-1.html

This worked for me.

[rdanomly]

if he fumbled in the end zone, how is that not a TD?

+1

[Fosco33]

I know I shouldn't complain about offensive playcalling - but really? A toss to Quinn/Quarless - questionable. 5wide spread and QB sneak... and another QB sneak.

[Brando19]

He was throwing to Quarless...Johnson messed that one up.

[Bossman641]

Blown opportunities so far today

[gbgary]

dang it. enough with the sneaks. stupid play call.

[Fosco33]

well - you don't beat good teams who play very well at home by giving them points. Remember this one.

[Fosco33]

How about time for a turnover of our own!! Come on D.

[mmmdk]

If you can't win close games then who are you? I'd like a better answer today!

C'mon Pack!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Zone play, lineman got cut to the turf.

[Tarlam!]

anyone got a streamtorrent to work?

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/48576-Streaming-2010-NFL-Week-12

Click on Webstreams: http://show-sports

[gbgary]

concern over Rodgers arm/wrist?

[gbgary]

damm. they got lucky there.

[Freak Out]

Pure fuckery.

[Jimx29]

nice challenge dumbfuck

[pbmax]

Wasn't a catch but no replay until after the next play.

[pbmax]

nice challenge dumbfuck

How do you challenge without a replay showing it until AFTER the next play.

[Freak Out]

Why not burn a TO there for fucks sake?

[Tarlam!]

Wasn't a catch but no replay until after the next play.

Could be a game changer.......

[Fosco33]

These kinda games just piss me off. Are our coaches/booth that inept? It's a 4th down catch going to the ground - and we had time to watch it live/replay and you don't challenge. You wanna keep those timeouts? Fucking stupid.

[pbmax]

http://www.vissattv.info/2010/11/ch-1.html

This worked for me.

Still working.

[Brando19]

Unreal...who is in charge of watching the replays?!? I'm a little concerned over Rodgers wrist...why the heck do you call two back to back qb sneaks???? We're better than that!

[Jimx29]

Wasn't a catch but no replay until after the next play.

shouldn't of mattered. halftime is near and there should of been a challenge no matter what.
typical pussyassed M3 challenge

[pbmax]

Why not burn a TO there for fucks sake?

Based on what

[pbmax]

These kinda games just piss me off. Are our coaches/booth that inept? It's a 4th down catch going to the ground - and we had time to watch it live/replay and you don't challenge. You wanna keep those timeouts? Fucking stupid.

The only replay before the next play was unclear

[Brandon494]

fuck this shit, so pissed right now

[Fosco33]

How do you challenge without a replay showing it until AFTER the next play.

The replay was before the next play... plus - you hope they have a dvr.

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D! NO TOUCHDOWNS.

[Fosco33]

The only replay before the next play was unclear

Again - are we keeping our timeouts for fun? why not - M3 typically is agressive with the challenge. And it was questionable on the 1st replay. Bonehead non challenge

[Bossman641]

shouldn't of mattered. halftime is near and there should of been a challenge no matter what.
typical pussyassed M3 challenge

And then you would be bitchin that MM makes stupid challenges and wastes TO's

[Guiness]

Still working.
working in IE, but not FF. I've been noticing more and more of that lately, FF seems seriously broken these days.

[pbmax]

The replay was before the next play... plus - you hope they have a dvr.

I might have missed one, but the replay I saw was unclear because it was from the Packer sideline side of the field. The one that showed it was from the endzone. That one got shown AFTER the next play.

[pbmax]

working in IE, but not FF. I've been noticing more and more of that lately, FF seems seriously broken these days.

Working for me in FF. Update?

[gbgary]

clearly no one doubted the call and told MM to challenge.

[pbmax]

Someone blew the coverage. Horrible

[Bossman641]

Way too easy there

[gbgary]

wow. how did ne get that open?

[mmmdk]

survey said 80% of Pack fans approved HC McCarthy - don't expect much I guess.

[Jimx29]

< is confident we'll never win the "big one" as long as M3 is in charge. deer in the headlights every single time

[Brandon494]

fucking joke, complete fucking joke!

[Fosco33]

wow - 3 Packers standing there looking stupid.

[gbgary]

we'll get it back. no worries.

[pbmax]

The replay was before the next play... plus - you hope they have a dvr.

Teams are not allowed to tape the game while in progress. Photos only. League rule.

[Jimx29]

survey said 80% of Pack fans approved HC McCarthy - don't expect much I guess.

where was this poll?

[Fosco33]

Could be 10-3 or 14-3 ... nah - we'll take 3-10.

Glad we have all those timeouts for our 8 seconds.

Really hope Arod's wrist is ok. Got a halftime to make some adjustments and we get the ball 1st.

[Bossman641]

My god you people have no confidence. We have moved the ball all over the field and are down 7 at half. There is an entire half to go.

[Fosco33]

Teams are not allowed to tape the game while in progress. Photos only. League rule.

Interesting - didn't know that. Wonder why photos only?

[mmmdk]

where was this poll?

ESPN, I think but not sure.

[Jimx29]

perfect...another cartoon from faux

[ThunderDan]

That TD was really compliments of CWood and Peprah who both had chance to tackle the RB on the 3 and 19 and allowed the 4&3 if either makes the tackle ATL punts.

[wootah]

Hey Numb, I like your twitter (http://twitter.com/slandermuse)! Very amusing.

Go Pack Go!

[Packers4Glory]

Pretty much you don't come back from a goal line turnover and the resulting drive being stuffed down your face. 14 point swings are tough to overcome vs bad teams much less good ones.

[mmmdk]

My best friend is a Falcons fan - he loves our head coach :lol:

He will get bragging rights....AGAIN!

[Jimx29]

Hey Numb, I like your twitter (http://twitter.com/slandermuse)! Very amusing.

Go Pack Go!

Nice....except I have never "twittered" in my life. ;)

[gbgary]

That TD was really compliments of CWood and Peprah who both had chance to tackle the RB on the 3 and 19 and allowed the 4&3 if either makes the tackle ATL punts.

that's a bit of a stretch.

[pbmax]

< is confident we'll never win the "big one" as long as M3 is in charge. deer in the headlights every single time

This argument always looks good when the team has had a setback. But it tells us nothing about the game or McCarthy. It is simply looking at the result and blindly assigning blame.

[Willard]

Pretty much you don't come back from a goal line turnover and the resulting drive being stuffed down your face. 14 point swings are tough to overcome vs bad teams much less good ones.
Of course, you're right. I guess I'll go Christmas shopping now that the game is lost. Hopefully we'll be able to rebound against the 49ers, but I doubt it.

[ThunderDan]

that's a bit of a stretch.

Not really, if either makes the tackle the drive is over. Plan and simple. Yes other stuff happened after but both had a great chance to end it with a sure tackle.

[Guiness]

Back to the turnover...I don't think I ever knew what the rule was on that.

Peterson was tackled in the end zone - it's a touchback. If a QB gets sacked, it's a safety. What's the difference? Because he's a defensive player?

[pbmax]

Interesting - didn't know that. Wonder why photos only?

Because the home team would have a HUGE advantage. Then the league would need to equalize access to video. Expensive and hard to govern. Also, coverage, like replay, would be affected by the TV coverage (and number of cameras) at the game.

[packer4life]

the blame birds are out. We are going to score after regrouping. Aaron is playing in a huge game and will settle down on his play switches in the second half. Our D for the most part is going to bend and hopefully not break again. We need to play lights out, we knew that coming in. I think we have a good chance here despite the poor first half result.

[mr_blonde]

< is confident we'll never win the "big one" as long as M3 is in charge. deer in the headlights every single time

McCarthy can't think "on his feet". He gets caught up in the moment. The Packers will lose this game simply because McCarthy will be out-coached in the second half. Smith will make the necessary adjustments; McCarthy will be caught with his thumb up his ass ..... again ...

The only coach McCarthy could consistently out-coach was Childress.

I really hate McCarthy .....

[pbmax]

That TD was really compliments of CWood and Peprah who both had chance to tackle the RB on the 3 and 19 and allowed the 4&3 if either makes the tackle ATL punts.

I agree. The Packers invited the fourth down attempt.

[Fosco33]

This one feels a lot like the Redskin game. Let's see how they respond - good measuring stick for our playoff chances.

Jimmy Johnson's halftime analysis of the non-challenge was spot on.

[red]

who is the fucking asshole who's suppose to be watching replays and telling fat mike when to challenge?

[Fritz]

I've sometimes wondered why coaches don't assign an assistant coach to watch the television feed. Those networks that show the games have so many cameras from so many angles that you'd think that'd be very useful when thinking of challenging.

Or do they already do this?

Since that 4th down play was so near the end of the half and the Pack had two timeouts left, I wondered why MM didn't call a timeout for two reasons: one, to give his assistants a chance to decide whether the 4th down catch was worth challenging, and two, to give his defense a quick breather.

[Jimx29]

thank gawd there's a posts-per-page setting that changes the default 10 posts. kinda hard to follow stuff when there's 17+ pages with only 165 or so posts

[Jimx29]

This one feels a lot like the Redskin game. Let's see how they respond - good measuring stick for our playoff chances.

Jimmy Johnson's halftime analysis of the non-challenge was spot on.

what did he say? I can't watch him after the extenxe BS


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[Fritz]

Man, you negative nellies are out full bore. Holy smokes.

Up to this game all was well in Packerland; now, after a fumble on the goal line and a score the other way, half the people here want MM fired IMMEDIATELY.

Whoa. Settle down, people.

Or maybe people are just blowing off some steam, which is underestandable.

[pbmax]

Back to the turnover...I don't think I ever knew what the rule was on that.

Peterson was tackled in the end zone - it's a touchback. If a QB gets sacked, it's a safety. What's the difference? Because he's a defensive player?

Its who had possession first. Packers had possession. Then fumble. If Pack recover in endzone, its a hodgepaodge of rules about advancing the ball after a fumble. I think the Holy Roller rules come into play. But if the Falcons recover the ball, like an INT in the endzone, its a touchback.

[pbmax]

McCarthy can't think "on his feet". He gets caught up in the moment. The Packers will lose this game simply because McCarthy will be out-coached in the second half. Smith will make the necessary adjustments; McCarthy will be caught with his thumb up his ass ..... again ...

The only coach McCarthy could consistently out-coach was Childress.

I really hate McCarthy .....

You apparently only can hate him when the Packers are losing. Otherwise, we don't see you here at all.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, it totally makes sense in that spot to use the challenge, even if you're not 100% sure you'll win. All you lose is the challenge and the time-out and if you're right, you stop their drive. Easy to second-guess, but geez, you gotta figure the best way to prepare for stuff like this is to spitball strategy around the coaches table in the off-season, so that when you get in the moment, you know exactly what you're going to do. Situational coaching...who knew!?

[Jimx29]

smokey halftime show, eh?

[Jimx29]

man...now there's some 'not jordy' speed

[pbmax]

I've sometimes wondered why coaches don't assign an assistant coach to watch the television feed. Those networks that show the games have so many cameras from so many angles that you'd think that'd be very useful when thinking of challenging.

Or do they already do this?

Since that 4th down play was so near the end of the half and the Pack had two timeouts left, I wondered why MM didn't call a timeout for two reasons: one, to give his assistants a chance to decide whether the 4th down catch was worth challenging, and two, to give his defense a quick breather.

They do, but that is not the only responsibility from what I remember. And he could have. But the only replay I saw before the half was unclear and it would have been a TO called on a hope and prayer that something else turned up.

[Fosco33]

Positives:
Arod is 9/11. Keep the pass game going - need about 20 more attempts.
Def has 2 sacks - after Falcons only gave up 2 in last 4 games. Keep up the pressure and hope for a turnover.

Not Positive:
Jackson - 4 attempts for 4 yards. Yawn.
2 punt returns for 1 yard. Need better starting field position - have to get a ST big play.
Ryan is on hot and Turner is halfway to 100.

[ThunderDan]

For all the shit that happened wrong in the 1st half we are only down 10-3.

How come we are always on the shitty end of refs calls that need to be challenged?

[Fosco33]

what did he say? I can't watch him after the extenxe BS


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Basically - it's 4th down and you have to take a shot at a challenge - even just as a timeout.

[Packers4Glory]

Good start after the TO and score. Not

[Fosco33]

Jackson - 5 attempts, -2 yards rushing.

[Guiness]

wow did we get blown up on that 2nd and 1

[pbmax]

Shields with very nice return that he almost broke. But Jackson cost his team the possession by going backwards. He is not having a good game with his brain.

[Tarlam!]

working in IE, but not FF. I've been noticing more and more of that lately, FF seems seriously broken these days.

Guin, you need to switch to Chrome. It is just superb.

[Fosco33]

Because the home team would have a HUGE advantage. Then the league would need to equalize access to video. Expensive and hard to govern. Also, coverage, like replay, would be affected by the TV coverage (and number of cameras) at the game.

Makes sense. Can I sign-up to be M3s official replay guy. I'd watch all games in 8 second delay and have an open conference call with the assistant in the booth. If there was a sniff of an issue - tell them to challenge.

:-)

[MTPackerfan]

just run straight ahead for cripes sake. Put kuhn back in there

[mmmdk]

Hey, we got a sweep of the Vikings! Gotta stay positive!

[Fosco33]

just run straight ahead for cripes sake. Put kuhn back in there

Seriously!

[Freak Out]

Based on what

4th down call....end of the first half...critical play....rushing to the line. At least you rally the D and might get the challenge. It ended up costing us big.

But it's not the end of the world.

[gbgary]

mm is getting stuck in the "we have to run it" thinking. need to get back to passing for first downs.

[Jimx29]

mm is getting stuck in the "we have to run it" thinking. need to get back to passing for first downs.

deer in the headlights

[ThunderDan]

TFL for Hawk!

[Jimx29]

hey...that GM commercial looks like us....except the getting back up part that is

[mmmdk]

TFL for Hawk!

Let's talk Hawk a little; I want Hawk back and ship Barnett. Hawk is back to 2006 and 2007 form. He fits this D well.

Thoughts?

[Bossman641]

Their LB's are attacking the line hard. Play action anyone?

[MTPackerfan]

take Jackson out put in Kuhn! or Nance

[Jimx29]

FML..........

[gbgary]

trick plays. geesh.

[pbmax]

Helmet to helmet

[MTPackerfan]

leading with the helmet

[pbmax]

Helmet to helmet

Or maybe not.

[ThunderDan]

How is that not 15 yards? FUCK ANYONE CAN HIT AROD AT ANYTIME AND THE REFS LET IT GO!

[MTPackerfan]

nice catch JORDY

[Jimx29]

stupid gamble that actually pays off :rolleyes:

[Bossman641]

That a way Nelson

[Tony Oday]

GO DON BEEBE!!!! ERRR I mean Jordy Nelson ;)

[gbgary]

great catch by jordy.

[wootah]

Great throw & catch!

[Jimx29]

nice...

[MTPackerfan]

wow, another Rodgers run, MM is playing with fire

[mmmdk]

How is that not 15 yards? FUCK ANYONE CAN HIT AROD AT ANYTIME AND THE REFS LET IT GO!

I agree

[mr_blonde]

You apparently only can hate him when the Packers are losing. Otherwise, we don't see you here at all.

Unlike you I have a job, family, friends, etc .... a life outside a fucking message board.

I tell you what, why don't stop worrying about me and focus on your sorry and pathetic life. 10,000+ posts in 4 years tells me you are nothing but a fucking loser!!!!! Jobless, living with mommy and daddy and surfing gay porn sites is not healthy lifestyle, you cunt ....

Do us all a favor and go fuck yourself .... LOSER!!!

[MTPackerfan]

But anyway SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gbgary]

GO DON BEEBE!!!! ERRR I mean Jordy Nelson ;)

way taller than beebe.

[ThunderDan]

hey...that GM commercial looks like us....except the getting back up part that is

Hmmmm 10-10 seems like we are back in the game!

[Jimx29]

man....I just pulled a hammy just watching that replay

[gbgary]

AR is PISSED! i like it when he's pissed.

[pbmax]

4th down call....end of the first half...critical play....rushing to the line. At least you rally the D and might get the challenge. It ended up costing us big.

But it's not the end of the world.

I can see the logic there. But if you don't win the challenge, but that is betting a TO on there being a replay worth looking at.

[ThunderDan]

Unlike you I have a job, family, friends, etc .... a life outside a fucking message board.

I tell you what, why don't stop worrying about me and focus on your sorry and pathetic life. 10,000+ posts in 4 years tells me you are nothing but a fucking loser!!!!! Jobless, living with mommy and daddy and surfing gay porn sites is not healthy lifestyle, you cunt ....

Do us all a favor and go fuck yourself .... LOSER!!!

Not called for at all! Please go away if this is what you are going to post!

[Jimx29]

Hmmmm 10-10 seems like we are back in the game!

but GM isn't run by MM.

[Bossman641]

Unlike you I have a job, family, friends, etc .... a life outside a fucking message board.

I tell you what, why don't stop worrying about me and focus on your sorry and pathetic life. 10,000+ posts in 4 years tells me you are nothing but a fucking loser!!!!! Jobless, living with mommy and daddy and surfing gay porn sites is not healthy lifestyle, you cunt ....

Do us all a favor and go fuck yourself .... LOSER!!!

Apparently your life is only ongoing when the Packers are winning.

Get out of here with your garbage/

[Jimx29]

Not called for at all! Please go away if this is what you are going to post!


deer in the headlights
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[Fosco33]

AR is PISSED! i like it when he's pissed.

I think he called that - just as his own redemption for fumbling the last TD away. Fine with it - but really - we have NO running game. Gimicky flea flicker on 3rd and 1 after a stuff on 2nd and 1.

Also love when Arod is pissed. His teammates need to get pissed too. Pack should be up by 2 scores right now. It was our game to win - now we have to go and grab it.

Would love to see an INT right here leading to a TD. Get the pts off turnover to even.

[mmmdk]

GO DON BEEBE!!!! ERRR I mean Jordy Nelson ;)

I loved Beebe - remember that OT win vs Niners in '96? 220 yards and TD.

[ThunderDan]

but GM isn't run by MM.

No they were run into bankruptcy! Where as GB was in the playoffs last year.

[Jimx29]

would that possibly be the first kickoff that was knelt down in the endzone for Crosby?

[mmmdk]

AR is PISSED! i like it when he's pissed.

When you're drunk...are you "pissed" or "pissed off"??? :lol:

[Freak Out]

Please don't feed the trolls......well....it is fun.

[Bossman641]

Terrible tackling. Come on

[MTPackerfan]

make a tackle

[ThunderDan]

That's just like the 3rd down in the first half. 3 guys to make the tackle and the RB carries them for a 1st down.

[pbmax]

Unlike you I have a job, family, friends, etc .... a life outside a fucking message board.

I tell you what, why don't stop worrying about me and focus on your sorry and pathetic life. 10,000+ posts in 4 years tells me you are nothing but a fucking loser!!!!! Jobless, living with mommy and daddy and surfing gay porn sites is not healthy lifestyle, you cunt ....

Do us all a favor and go fuck yourself .... LOSER!!!

Look at the cute internet bully! My digital feelings are hurt! Trying wiping your tears of anger with the keyboard.

[pbmax]

I cannot believe six Packers failed to make that tackle.

[mmmdk]

Wow, I just saw my PR name: "The impatient Euro Rat"...now that's funny :lol:

[gbgary]

come on Packer D!

[Jimx29]

Wow, I just saw my PR name: "The impatient Euro Rat"...now that's funny :lol:
:D

[MTPackerfan]

come on Defense!!

[Jimx29]

:rolleyes:

[Jimx29]

jeeezus...how abut tackling instead of everyone going for the ball

[pbmax]

Instead of penalties, the Packers are giving away first downs with shoddy tackling.

[mmmdk]

Turner is a monster.