Rodgers' Epic Performance in Huge Game

[vince]

Rodgers can't win big games they say. Bullshit.

BTW, DYAR = Defense Adjusted Yards Above Replacement - This Football Outsiders' stat gives the value of the quarterback's performance compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent and then translated into yardage.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2010/quick-reads-week-16

Rodgers finished the day with one of the greatest games of the DYAR Era. By the end of the day, he'd accrued 294 DYAR, the most of any quarterback in a single game this year and the 11th-best single-game performance since 1993. It was comfortably the best game of Rodgers's career, and a better game than Brett Favre ever had as a member of the Packers.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/21780/perspective-on-aaron-rodgers-big-game

To get a better understanding of what it means to rank No. 11 on that list, consider there are 256 games each season in the NFL and, thus, 512 starting quarterbacks. Since the start of the 1993 season, then, there have been 9,184 starting quarterbacks. Ranking 11 on a list of 9,184 translates into better than 99 percentile.

[denverYooper]

PFF also had him graded out at +7.6, extremely high (same as his ranking v. Bears in week 3...)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rodgers is good.

[vince]

If Nelson doesn't fumble and Jones doesn't drop the beautiful ball that would likely have gone for six, he has an even bigger game.

[RashanGary]

Best game I've ever seen by a QB.

[sheepshead]

Rodgers is good.

Fuckin' eh

[VermontPackFan]

Rodgers will start to quiet those critics after the Bears game and once he wins a couple of playoff games. It seems unfair but thats how QB's are rated, AR needs to put the team on his back and lead us to a playoff win in a hostile enviornment. Then and only then will he get the credit we all know he deserves...

[Packgator]

Rodgers is good.

+1

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rodgers will start to quiet those critics after the Bears game and once he wins a couple of playoff games. It seems unfair but thats how QB's are rated, AR needs to put the team on his back and lead us to a playoff win in a hostile enviornment. Then and only then will he get the credit we all know he deserves...

I don't live and die with the team quite as much as I used to. I've gotten older, have two young girls, and my priorities have shifted. I still want the Packers to win, but I can live with whatever happens. However, more than anything else, this is why I want the Packers to win this Sunday. Rodgers has handled himself with humbleness, class, and humor. He deserves to have a moment where people sit back and say "yes, he's good AND he's a winner." No comments about he's good but not as good as Favre. No comments that he's just a fantasy football QB. No comments about close losses. He deserves this moment. I hope he and his teammates can make it happen.

[Smidgeon]

I don't live and die with the team quite as much as I used to I've gotten older, have two young girls, and my priorities have shifted. I still want the Packers to win, but I can live with whatever happens. However, more than anything else, this is why I want the Packers to win this Sunday. Rodgers has handled himself with humbleness, class, and humor. He deserves to have a moment where people sit back and say "yes, he's good AND he's a winner." No comments about he's good but not as good as Favre. No comments that he's just a fantasy football QB. No comments about close losses. He deserves this moment. I hope he and his teammates can make it happen.

Well said.

[denverYooper]

I don't live and die with the team quite as much as I used to I've gotten older, have two young girls, and my priorities have shifted. I still want the Packers to win, but I can live with whatever happens. However, more than anything else, this is why I want the Packers to win this Sunday. Rodgers has handled himself with humbleness, class, and humor. He deserves to have a moment where people sit back and say "yes, he's good AND he's a winner." No comments about he's good but not as good as Favre. No comments that he's just a fantasy football QB. No comments about close losses. He deserves this moment. I hope he and his teammates can make it happen.

Nice post.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Rodgers is good.
I've always appreciated your insight Harv ;)

[Little Whiskey]

Wow, harv getting some kudos!

I'd agree with everything except the emotional connection to the games. Even as I have grown older, I take the losses just as hard as i did when i was younger. I have two young boys and the older of the two is begining to feel the same way. Monday is always better when its a victory Monday!

Nice post harv!

[bobblehead]

Best game I've ever seen by a QB.

Thats not possible in a regular season game.

[Brandon494]

Best game I've ever seen by a QB.

Guess you missed Vick's game against the Redskins.

[Brandon494]

Rodgers is good.

HES GREAT!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJwSoww2nky9tv5Hxb2a161notLIk-mo7F-Fc6ZvXzSf0fcXbCvw

[mraynrand]

Thats not possible in a regular season game.


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[Joemailman]

Best game I've ever seen by a QB.

I'm still partial to Favre's game against the Bears in 1995: 25- 33; 336 yards; 5 TD's.

Packers were 5-4 and desperate for a win. That game was kind of a springboard to their 11-5 finish and an appearance in the NFC Title Game.

We may look back at Rodgers' game Sunday in a similar vein though. It was a great performance under tremendous pressure.

[Jimx29]

Berts game the day after his Dad died will always be the #1 game top to bottom for me.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers will start to quiet those critics after the Bears game and once he wins a couple of playoff games. It seems unfair but thats how QB's are rated, AR needs to put the team on his back and lead us to a playoff win in a hostile enviornment. Then and only then will he get the credit we all know he deserves...


I don't live and die with the team quite as much as I used to. I've gotten older, have two young girls, and my priorities have shifted. I still want the Packers to win, but I can live with whatever happens. However, more than anything else, this is why I want the Packers to win this Sunday. Rodgers has handled himself with humbleness, class, and humor. He deserves to have a moment where people sit back and say "yes, he's good AND he's a winner." No comments about he's good but not as good as Favre. No comments that he's just a fantasy football QB. No comments about close losses. He deserves this moment. I hope he and his teammates can make it happen.


Two great posts!

Thanks TT for having the balls to draft Rodgers. Thanks coaching staff for grooming him into what he is. Thanks Mr. and Mrs. Rodgers for his upbringing. Thanks Rodgers for maturing into a hero for the fans of the Green Bay Packers.

[Packers4Glory]

I'm so sick of Rodgers getting blamed for close losses. He's brought this team back several times to take leads only to have the defense choke it away. 90% of the time (I made that number up) Rodgers isn't to blame for a close loss. I guess he shouldn't get the go ahead score until there is no time left for ST and the defense to blow it.

[vince]

Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in NFL history.
He has the lowest TD/INT ratio in NFL history.
Rodgers needs 307 yards vs. the Bears to become the first QB in NFL history to throwv for 4000 yds. in each of his first 3 seasons starting.

I think this guy could be good some day.

[Bossman641]

Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in NFL history.
He has the lowest TD/INT ratio in NFL history.
Rodgers needs 307 yards vs. the Bears to become the first QB in NFL history to throwv for 4000 yds. in each of his first 3 seasons starting.

Absolutely amazing stats

Just to add on what others have said about Rodgers, I want the Packers to win for my own enjoyment but I also want them to win for Rodgers. After all the shit he has had to deal with in regards to Favre and unfair criticism regarding his record in close losses, I can’t help but pull for the guy.

[Little Whiskey]

imagine if he could have played a full game against the lions and then played against the pats. he would have had this already

[bobblehead]

Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in NFL history.
He has the lowest TD/INT ratio in NFL history.
Rodgers needs 307 yards vs. the Bears to become the first QB in NFL history to throwv for 4000 yds. in each of his first 3 seasons starting.

I think this guy could be good some day.

But he doesn't have "it"

[vince]

Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in NFL history.
He has the lowest TD/INT ratio in NFL history.
Rodgers needs 307 yards vs. the Bears to become the first QB in NFL history to throwv for 4000 yds. in each of his first 3 seasons starting.

I think this guy could be good some day.
Actually, I meant to say he has the lowest INT/TD ratio in NFL history.:oops:

[esoxx]

But he doesn't have "it"

True, he needs a Super Bowl ring to round out his resume. Only a matter of time.

[mraynrand]

True, he needs a Super Bowl ring to round out his resume. Only a matter of time. That's what Marino said.

[packerbacker1234]

That's what Marino said.

Yeah, no matter how good individually you are, it takes a team to win it all. He can't do it alone. Favre didn't, Tom Brady definitely didn;t, and Peyton Manning played like crap otuside of one half in the afc championship and got a ring.

[Sparkey]

I was born 13 days after the Packers won Super Bowl I and just over a year when they won II. I used to live and die each week from the time I was 7 (1974 season) until they won XXI. Since I have seen them win it all, the wins and losses are not as hard or as uplifting as they used to be. Guess I'm gettin old.

[pbmax]

Berts game the day after his Dad died will always be the #1 game top to bottom for me.

Except that his receivers deserve equal billing in that game as Walker and Driver both bailed out Favre several times with grabs of throws that were little more than jump balls into good (and sometimes double) coverage. Some of the choices of throws in that game were nuts (no offense to Nutz).

[bobblehead]

That's what Marino said.

He had no running game either.

[bobblehead]

Except that his receivers deserve equal billing in that game as Walker and Driver both bailed out Favre several times with grabs of throws that were little more than jump balls into good (and sometimes double) coverage. Some of the choices of throws in that game were nuts (no offense to Nutz).

Agree, I got kicked out of the wonderful Gold Coast casino for throwing a beer at the television set after the anouncers talked about the "great throw" by Favre when he threw a jump ball into double coverage that JWalk went up in between to haul in. I was on the "sick of favre" band wagon long before most Packer fans were.

[mraynrand]

He had no running game either.

Except when he did:

Year Att Yards TD Long Av
1985 444 1729 19 33 3.9
1986 349 1545 9 54 4.4
1987 408 1662 16 51 4.1
1988 335 1205 11 64 3.6
1989 400 1330 10 25 3.3
1990 420 1535 13 33 3.7
1991 379 1352 8 24 3.6
1992 407 1525 9 23 3.7
1993 419 1459 10 77 3.5
1994 433 1658 13 47 3.8
1995 413 1506 16 40 3.6
1996 460 1622 14 49 3.5
1997 430 1343 18 71 3.1
1998 458 1535 10 45 3.4
1999 445 1453 8 34 3.3

1993 is the Scott Mitchell year

85, 87, 94, 96 pretty decent considering over 4000 yards passing those years
Here's some Packer playoff years for comparison:

1995 410 1428 9 40 3.5
1996 465 1838 9 24 4.0
1997 459 1909 9 52 4.2
2007 388 1597 13 66 4.1

[MJZiggy]

He had no running game either.

Rodgers practically IS our running game.

[mraynrand]

Agree, I got kicked out of the wonderful Gold Coast casino for throwing a beer at the television set after the anouncers talked about the "great throw" by Favre when he threw a jump ball into double coverage that JWalk went up in between to haul in. I was on the "sick of favre" band wagon long before most Packer fans were.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9nOzB4b62U

This is what put me over the top for good. They didn't play it once, but twice in the same game - they trotted out Deanna in the booth. Had I been a Broncos fan, I would have been doing this all night:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z158/chickenhawk-01/Puking-1.jpg

[vince]

Barf all night, but that dude was at the absolute pinnacle of the the most popular game in the country until he pissed it down his own leg. He was one of the very rare guys that non-football fans paid attention to.

[HowardRoark]

But he doesn't have "it"

He may not have "it," but it looks like he's got something new.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/extramustard/hotclicks/12/30/aaron-rodgers-dating-jessica-szohr/index.html?eref=sihp

[vince]

At least provide a gratuitous pic Howie...

http://images.askmen.com/celebs/women/actress/jessica-szohr/large_image-1.jpg

[Freak Out]

Very nice.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How come this thread only had a 3 star rating? It was 1 star, but I had to give it 5. Who the hell gave it 1 star?

[pbmax]

I prefer the Grapefruit Heiress, but Rodgers seems to be doing all right for himself. How about showing these girls during the game?!

If TMZ and SI can find out who he is dating, can't FOX find them in the stands/suites?

Edit: She is from Menomonee Falls, WI

[get louder at lambeau]

I prefer the Grapefruit Heiress, but Rodgers seems to be doing all right for himself. How about showing these girls during the game?!

If TMZ and SI can find out who he is dating, can't FOX find them in the stands/suites?

Edit: She is from Menomonee Falls, WI

Ernie von Schledorn! Main Street in Men om on eeeee Falls.

[bobblehead]

Except when he did:

Year Att Yards TD Long Av
1985 444 1729 19 33 3.9
1986 349 1545 9 54 4.4
1987 408 1662 16 51 4.1
1988 335 1205 11 64 3.6
1989 400 1330 10 25 3.3
1990 420 1535 13 33 3.7
1991 379 1352 8 24 3.6
1992 407 1525 9 23 3.7
1993 419 1459 10 77 3.5
1994 433 1658 13 47 3.8
1995 413 1506 16 40 3.6
1996 460 1622 14 49 3.5
1997 430 1343 18 71 3.1
1998 458 1535 10 45 3.4
1999 445 1453 8 34 3.3

1993 is the Scott Mitchell year

85, 87, 94, 96 pretty decent considering over 4000 yards passing those years
Here's some Packer playoff years for comparison:

1995 410 1428 9 40 3.5
1996 465 1838 9 24 4.0
1997 459 1909 9 52 4.2
2007 388 1597 13 66 4.1


I don't know. Those appear to be some pretty poor running teams for marino. I would need some comparison of the era to put them in perspective. My memory of the time is that they didn't have much. I can't even name a RB from the Dolphins in the late 80's thru the 90's. Karim abdhul jabar is the only name I recall....go figure.

IIRC '96'97 was when Holmgren finally started commiting to the run. The 2 headed monster of Bennet/Levens came into its own, and the QB was pretty good then too. what an offense. '07 stunk on ice the first half before Grant came into his own.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Those running stats are ridiculously pathetic. Only two of 15 yards, the Dolphins manage to average 4.0 yards/carry. Yikes! I was happy though. I didn't like Marino much.

[HowardRoark]

How come this thread only had a 3 star rating? It was 1 star, but I had to give it 5. Who the hell gave it 1 star?

This couldn't have helped the rating....... (don't go see it!!!!)

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z158/chickenhawk-01/Puking-1.jpg

[vince]

I prefer the Grapefruit Heiress
I agree. Maybe this will increase the thread rating.
http://www.modelsandmoguls.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/julie-henderson.jpg

[HowardRoark]

I agree. Maybe this will increase the thread rating.
http://www.modelsandmoguls.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/julie-henderson.jpg

Put me down for the grapefruit gal too. Lisa Marie has nothing on her.

[mraynrand]

Barf all night, but that dude was at the absolute pinnacle of the the most popular game in the country until he pissed it down his own leg. He was one of the very rare guys that non-football fans paid attention to.

Sure, but it got to be too much, even for those of us who really liked the guy.

[mraynrand]

I should do my part to improve the thread after I mucked it all up:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID59322/images/golden_retriever_4(1).jpg

[MJZiggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9nOzB4b62U

This is what put me over the top for good. They didn't play it once, but twice in the same game - they trotted out Deanna in the booth. Had I been a Broncos fan, I would have been doing this all night:

Yes, that was a little much.