Ricky Williams

[Tony Oday]

How do you think he would look in Green and Gold next year as part of a two headed monster of him and Grant?

[bobblehead]

Green, Gold, and blood shot eyes....and the munchies. No thanks, RB is a young mans position.

[Cheesehead Craig]

No thanks.

[red]

nah, we have enough younger talent to go along with grant in starks and nance. plus b-jack is still a good 3rd down back and kuhn can still be used as a hammer

[vince]

I like Ricky. He's definitely an independent thinker. Don't need him at his age on the Packers.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Simply age is enough to say no, he's nearly as washed up as all the other running backs whose names have surfaced here after Grant's injury

[AtlPackFan]

Pass

[Fritz]

Pass

I'll take a hit!

[Scott Campbell]

His age might be deceptive. He's very low mileage.

[Tony Oday]

Not a terrible last three years...what I see is a guy that can be a valuable number 2 back and can take the load if the top guy goes down.


Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD Fum FumL
2008 Miami 16 160 659 41.2 4.1 4 29 219 13.7 7.6 47 5.6 9 1 5 2
2009 Miami 16 241 112170.1 4.7 11 35 264 16.5 7.5 59 7.3 9 2 4 2
2010 Miami 16 159 673 42.1 4.2 2 19 141 8.8 7.4 28 7.4 6 1 4 2

[Bretsky]

TOFT

Too
Old
For
Ted

[packerbacker1234]

Not a terrible last three years...what I see is a guy that can be a valuable number 2 back and can take the load if the top guy goes down.


Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD Fum FumL
2008 Miami 16 160 659 41.2 4.1 4 29 219 13.7 7.6 47 5.6 9 1 5 2
2009 Miami 16 241 112170.1 4.7 11 35 264 16.5 7.5 59 7.3 9 2 4 2
2010 Miami 16 159 673 42.1 4.2 2 19 141 8.8 7.4 28 7.4 6 1 4 2


Yeah, Ricky is NOT a bad #2 option guy who can fill in at #1 if needed. He showed last year, when Brown went down, that he still has it. VERY low milage on him. Guy was out of the league for YEARS and has been very effective since getting back in and outside of lat season when he had to take a majority of the snaps in the second half, he really hasn't taken much of abeating.

Age is indeed desceptive with him. Just look at his 3 year splits since getting back in the league - he'll last longer (in term sof age) than most backs due to long time off he had in the middle of his career. I like him A LOT as #2 back that can push Grant to be better. Starks hasn't shown THAT MUCH, and his practice attitude has been "so bad" that MM wouldn't even activate him until a roster spot finally opened up last week. Kuhn is true FB who can pound for the short yardage.

I would LOVE a Grant - Williams 1-2 punch next season (plus, Williams is GREAT insurance given Grant's injury, as he has proven he can still carry the rock well, and can take the load of a stretch if need be. He's a great insurance policy for 2011) with Kuhn still there for short yardage/fullback duties to provide an extra wrinkle to the run game, and then with starks and jackson really battling it out for one spot, which is essentially the third string back.

Not saying this is a typical TT move in getting us a proven veteran backup that actually is still in great physical shape to perform (IE, not washed up like the other veterans mentiuoned this year), but it would definitely be please. Just have to look at the numbers to realize Ricky still has "it", and can have that "it" for even longer as a #2 option. We still need one, regardless of what happens this year.

We could win the Super Bowl this year, it still doesn't fix the fact that starks, kuhn, Jackson - none have shown they can carry the load if they have to. Williams has.

[billy_oliver880]

Starks hasn't shown THAT MUCH, and his practice attitude has been "so bad" that MM wouldn't even activate him until a roster spot finally opened up last week.

Starks looks like the most complete back we have. Good vision. Runs hard. Gets more then 2 yards a run. I think they were just terrified of putting him in situations where he had to pick up blitzes. Maybe he has bad "practice attitude" but he still has enough talent that they need him on the field.

[Joemailman]

Give Starks an offseason to get stronger, and put him through training camp and the Packers will have a fine RB tandem with him and Grant.

[vince]

Give Starks an offseason to get stronger, and put him through training camp and the Packers will have a fine RB tandem with him and Grant.
Agree wholeheartedly.

[Smidgeon]

Starks looks like the most complete back we have. Good vision. Runs hard. Gets more then 2 yards a run. I think they were just terrified of putting him in situations where he had to pick up blitzes. Maybe he has bad "practice attitude" but he still has enough talent that they need him on the field.

Or maybe he just has bad practice habits? Where has anyone from the Packers staff said he has a bad attitude? I thought they liked his attitude?

[MJZiggy]

Are we talking about the same Ricky Williams who considers the NFL drug policy to be a nice suggestion?

[vince]

So he smokes pot. It's damn near legal in a lot of states anymore.

[MJZiggy]

So he smokes pot. It's damn near legal in a lot of states anymore.

Maybe so, but not so legal in the NFL yet...

[pbmax]

He's been better since he sought treatment for his head, not just for his fondness for the leaf. And I seem to remember his current agent (not the doorknob that signed him to the original bad deal) has been a pretty steadying influence.

But with the number of bodies (esp. Starks and Nance) I can't see him being attractive even at a low price.

[Scott Campbell]

Are we talking about the same Ricky Williams who considers the NFL drug policy to be a nice suggestion?


The same Ricky who knows that he's one failed drug test from the end of his NFL paychecks. He's kept his nose clean the last few years.

[Patler]

His age might be deceptive. He's very low mileage.

Low mileage? He is approaching 4,000 touches in college and the pros.

[get louder at lambeau]

It just seems like a waste to sign older RBs. It's a young man's game, and if you can find a young stud, you're set for a while. With the old guys, you're just hoping to squeeze a good season or two, against odds of their eventual decline. Give me some angry, hungry 22 year old at RB anyday.

[pbmax]

Low mileage? He is approaching 4,000 touches in college and the pros.

But if you only remember 2,000, its like you're young again.

[bobblehead]

But if you only remember 2,000, its like you're young again.

Sooo...get us an alzheimers patient at RB...he won't even remember his last carry.

[MJZiggy]

The same Ricky who knows that he's one failed drug test from the end of his NFL paychecks. He's kept his nose clean the last few years.

I know that, but the opportunity for humor was there.

[pbmax]

Sooo...get us an alzheimers patient at RB...he won't even remember his last carry.

Tricky, because he has to remember which way to run.

[vince]

Won't medical marijuana help that? Hell it helps everything else.

[Tarlam!]

Starks. I'm a believer.

[Patler]

Starks. I'm a believer.

I'm starting to be. He runs differently than the others; faster and shiftier than Kuhn and with a lot more power than Jackson. He is supposed to be a very good receiver, and I am anxious to see him have more opportunities. I am hopeful that he can provide a bit of a spark in the playoffs, but he may not get much of a chance. MM is so darned comfortable with Jackson.

[Tarlam!]

MM is so darned comfortable with Jackson.

Like Chillie was with Bert? Bad vibes.... MM should treat the Packers Jackson like Chillie did the Vikes': 2nd string!

[pbmax]

I'm starting to be. He runs differently than the others; faster and shiftier than Kuhn and with a lot more power than Jackson. He is supposed to be a very good receiver, and I am anxious to see him have more opportunities.

Yep. Its funny how even fans can tell with RBs. At least when you can compare like to like and see them run with the same line in the same year.

[mraynrand]

Ole' Cleedeeus says: Bring him on in!

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