OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS vs. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES GAME DAY THREAD

[Bretsky]

Dear MM

Let AROD win this game

Dear AROD

Go win your first playoff game with a few first downs

[Jimx29]

how did only 2 seconds come off the clock???

i saw that too. wonder why aikin didn't point it oput

[gbgary]

come on mm...

[pbmax]

how did only 2 seconds come off the clock???

6 came off. It was 4:00 even.

[Jimx29]

Nice record for A-Rod

[RashanGary]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimx29]

NICE!!!!!!!! Starks co-mvp

[pbmax]

Yes. All timouts gone and first down. YOO HOO

[RashanGary]

Now keep running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mmmdk]

Starks up the gut? :lol:

So far, so good!

[pbmax]

Need one more to seal it.

[wist43]

Got lucky and popped a run... they need more 1st downs

[pbmax]

play action.

[RashanGary]

I love it. . . I could care less about a first down right now. time is on our side.

[Bretsky]

let him throw

[wist43]

i'd be aggressive and put it in Rodgers hands...

[Jimx29]

ferchristsakes aikman wants the pack to fail soooo bad

[ND72]

Starks today reminds me of grant vs Denver on Monday night for his debut...just ran straight and hard....just the way we all like it ;-)

[wist43]

LOL

[mmmdk]

Play action on 1st, ASS HAT. We're not that good a running team.

[Packers4Glory]

fuck. get another 1st or 2

[Freak Out]

That was our playaction down. Fuck.

[pbmax]

Need a first.

[Bretsky]

let him throw


well the predicatable run did not work

playing NOT to lose

[Jimx29]

i'd be aggressive and put it in Rodgers hands...

werd

[wist43]

now we get our run, run, pass punt :)

[ND72]

And now we lose

[mmmdk]

If we don't convert; we lose.

[Packers4Glory]

awww fuck. here comes the heartbreak

[Jimx29]

better than an ill advised throw and pick

[pbmax]

AROD runs it. Or should have.

[gbgary]

too many running plays

[wist43]

McCarthy's and idiot... and now Capers will come out and sit back in zone, and let them go right down the field.

Stupid, stupid, stupid

[RashanGary]

I'm OK with giving them 2 minutes and a long field with our defense. We really should win this one. Vick is knicked up. Jackson is knicked up. We have a great defense.

[mmmdk]

If we don't convert; we lose.

Set up to lose.

[packer4life]

that's the best an MM offense can muster...FUCK ME

[Freak Out]

Play action on 1st, ASS HAT. We're not that good a running team.

2nd down was the time to try it. M3 should have.

[pbmax]

werd

Funny, you guys never remember when you are wrong. There is always another reason the coaches were.

[Freak Out]

Big D time! Lets goooooooooooo!

[RashanGary]

And Vicks greatest skill, running, that burns time too.

[packer4life]

just so vanilla on the last 3 downs, its classic mccarthy playing not to lose. did u see the sanchez throw yesterday? that is playing to win

[mmmdk]

Even if we win; McCarthy is just not good enough. Sheer talent on Packers team is what aids him. Wade Philips could do this and probably better too.

[Brando19]

And Vicks greatest skill, running, that burns time too.

Unless he runs out of bounds. My blood pressure is out the roof.

[pbmax]

OOB Tm

[Bretsky]

Took the ball out of AROD's hands by going to Sally's book of powder puff playcalling on 2nd down

Now we gotta pray the D stops them; playing not to lose always puts yourselves in a bad spot

here we go

PS- KICK IT OUT OF BOUNCE

[wist43]

McCarthy and Capers are mismanaging this game... it would seem they are just not good pressure coaches :(

[mmmdk]

Big return

[pbmax]

Skied the punt. Didn't work out. Lucky they got the hold.

[Packers4Glory]

turnover would be nice now.

[mmmdk]

Took the ball out of AROD's hands by going to Sally's book of powder puff playcalling on 2nd down

Now we gotta pray the D stops them; playing not to lose always puts yourselves in a bad spot

here we go

PS- KICK IT OUT OF BOUNCE

Why does he do that? He didn't with BF!

[wist43]

The win was there for us on offense... and McCarthy stupidly decides to put it in his defenses hands.

We deserve to lose.

[Bretsky]

66 yards

[pbmax]

Blitzed and burned. man to man

[gbgary]

eat up vick..

[Jimx29]

dim the lights....

[wist43]

now we have to look at when to take timouts here pretty soon...

[Bretsky]

The win was there for us on offense... and McCarthy stupidly decides to put it in his defenses hands.

We deserve to lose.



WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

[mmmdk]

We're fucked!

[Jimx29]

of course YOu are looking for a flag aikman....fuckin waterhead

[wist43]

no matter what, we have to stop them on downs...

if they score, we might be able to preserve enough time to come down for a FG attempt

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!

[pbmax]

Shoulder hit and legal. good job Nick

[Bretsky]

Blitzed and burned. man to man


for those who constantly want aggression there was the reason against your views

[ND72]

Reid should wear black, he just looks like an angry black bear

[red]

why the fuck is there no run off?

[Bossman641]

STFU Philly fans. He hit him in the gut. Perfectly legal.

[wist43]

if they complete a pass in bounds we should take a time out...

[Jimx29]

of course YOu are looking for a flag aikman....fuckin waterhead

Huh? aikman admits being wrong? :thud:

[packers11]

can we get some fucking break here... come on... we always end up on the wrong side of these playoff games

[rbaloha1]

The win was there for us on offense... and McCarthy stupidly decides to put it in his defenses hands.

We deserve to lose.

MM did the right thing.

[pbmax]

why the fuck is there no run off?

Good question.

[wist43]

why the fuck is there no run off?

we want to preserve the clock at this point...

[pbmax]

WHAT? Its a five point lead

[Bretsky]

JUST ONE SACK AND THE CLOCK TICKS TICKS TICKS

[Jimx29]

good thing vick is limping like a wounded dog

[Packers4Glory]

horrible.

[wist43]

they should call a TO here

[Jimx29]

GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T-Man!!!!!!!!!!!

[wist43]

or not, lol...

[ND72]

YES

[pbmax]

INT BABY TRAMONNN!

[red]

thank fucking god

thank you tramon

whew

[rdanomly]

THANK YOU TRAMON!

[Joemailman]

Well, that was easy.

[mmmdk]

Vick is a weapon & Rodgers is a weapon but ass hat McCarthy doesn't want to use his best weapon. Stubby, you do not deserve this win.

[wist43]

that was an ill advised throw... no doubt... I'll take it :D

[mmmdk]

TRAMON THE KING OF THE AIR - WE WIN!

[RashanGary]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimx29]

Well, that was easy.

:boom tish:

[gbgary]

wow...i've said it all year...williams is our defensive mvp

[pbmax]

Vick is a weapon & Rodgers is a weapon but ass hat McCarthy doesn't want to use his best weapon. Stubby, you do not deserve this win.

The lack of time on the clock produced that call that led to the INT.

[Bretsky]

can we get some fucking break here... come on... we always end up on the wrong side of these playoff games


THERE YA GO

[pbmax]

they should call a TO here

You should change you avatar to Jim Caldwell :)

[Bretsky]

Does this mean I need to go to church again next week and pray for the Packers ? :)

[mmmdk]

Beating iEagles s frekking sweet! Love this & I love you PRs (again).

Enjoy - you guys deserve this win. Bless you!

[wpony]

thats the first win only 3 to go :)

[pbmax]

Running game does not equal instant success. Please remember that.

[rbaloha1]

MM called a good game. Proved he could win a close game.

The Falcons is going to be tough to win in that dome.

[mmmdk]

The lack of time on the clock produced that call that led to the INT.

Yup!

[pbmax]

Still no close win for McCarthy. this was another 5 point blowout!

[Teamcheez1]

I'lll take a win anyday, but McCarthy played it way too conservative in the second half. We only scored 7 points after halftime, and escaped losing.

[pbmax]

Yup!

I think I like it better when you are miserable :)

[red]

Does this mean I need to go to church again next week and pray for the Packers ? :)

fuck no, you should come with me to visit Oz

i'm gonna ask him for a brain and a heart for McCarthy, because he did everything in his power to make this a close game

[AtlPackFan]

Shit!! I need to find a defibrillator. :-)

[gbgary]

MM called a good game. Proved he could win a close game.

The Falcons is going to be tough to win in that dome.

he totally sucked in the forth quarter. he tightened up big time.

[RashanGary]

Just a great win. Couldn't be happier. Thought MM did a marvelous job. We have to play a little cleaner to beat Atlanta, but the way we're running it with Starks, they're not going to be able sleep on the run. That game was great for several reasons. When MM decides to go back to throwing it around, it might actually be a surprise.

[mmmdk]

MM called a good game. Proved he could win a close game.

The Falcons is going to be tough to win in that dome.

I agree through 3 Qs but he was playing not to lose in the 4th. Cowardly winning is bad karma.

[Jimx29]

18 27 180 66.7 6.7 2 9 3 0 122.5

sounds like game MVP to me

[rbaloha1]

Running game does not equal instant success. Please remember that.

It sure helps. Stark's fresh legs are sure beneficial.

A smaller B. Jackson as a change-up helps as well.

[packer4life]

im still not happy with our WR drops, this could've been an easier game...

[pbmax]

Does this mean I need to go to church again next week and pray for the Packers ? :)

Even harder. You need to be extra good this week. No graileees.

[mmmdk]

I think I like it better when you are miserable :)

:lol: That was funny! :lol:

[Teamcheez1]

he totally sucked in the forth quarter. he tightened up big time.

Agreed. He didn't play "Packer" football, which he preached all week in interviews, much of the second half

[rbaloha1]

I agree through 3 Qs but he was playing not to lose in the 4th. Cowardly winning is bad karma.

Disagree. In a crucial 3rd down MM threw the ball. Rodgers was sacked. Played to win imo.

[Joemailman]

Well, that was easy.


:boom tish:

Don't you mean http://instantrimshot.com/classic/?sound=rimshot

[red]

Shit!! I need to find a defibrillator. :-)

lol me too

[mmmdk]

WE, THE FANS, DESERVE THIS REDEMPTION.


CONGRATS RATS!!!!

[pbmax]

I agree through 3 Qs but he was playing not to lose in the 4th. Cowardly winning is bad karma.

Killing clock is not playing to lose. But I agree that the running game is not enough yet and there should have been some kind of short pass in there (screen, play action).

That Kuhn play was a killer.

[red]

MM called a good game. Proved he could win a close game.

The Falcons is going to be tough to win in that dome.

He chocked big time IMO

he did some things good, but he did a lot of bad shit too

once again i think we won in spite of our coach

[mmmdk]

Disagree. In a crucial 3rd down MM threw the ball. Rodgers was sacked. Played to win imo.

First 2 runs great then try play action to avoid being predictable plus avoid potential 3rd and long.

Result was 3rd and long....INCOMPLETE. AR got 1 shot out of 5. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

[Fosco33]

Man - my adrenaline level is off the fricken charts. The offense did almost nothing in the 2nd half - that ending was fitting for the game - the D goes and gets it.

Love this year's team. Full of heart - full of injuries - and deeper than any team out there.

Falcons better watch out.

Go Pack - Go Seahawks!

[channtheman]

Disagree. In a crucial 3rd down MM threw the ball. Rodgers was sacked. Played to win imo.

The biggest play no one will remember is the 3rd and short run with Kuhn. MM took the hot runner Starks out and put in Kuhn. Bad choice. I would have rather seen Starks run it or a play action off of Starks for a short 5-10 yard pass. That was a huge play that I think nearly lost the game for us when we didn't convert.

Also, James Jones is still a fucking loser. Man that guy can not catch.

[Bossman641]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

[packer4life]

The biggest play no one will remember is the 3rd and short run with Kuhn. MM took the hot runner Starks out and put in Kuhn. Bad choice. I would have rather seen Starks run it or a play action off of Starks for a short 5-10 yard pass. That was a huge play that I think nearly lost the game for us when we didn't convert.

Also, James Jones is still a fucking loser. Man that guy can not catch.

you are dead on man. that kuhn play was dogshit. teams have caught on to that play.

[mmmdk]

He chocked big time IMO

he did some things good, but he did a lot of bad shit too

once again i think we won in spite of our coach

I agree yet Stubby ain't shitty. We can make it this season - ALL THE WAY - even with an (at times) insecure head coach that's our play caller too.

[red]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

yeah, there's right times and wrong times to run those plays

MM seems to call the wrong damn thing at the wrong time waaaaayy to often

[gbgary]

Agreed. He didn't play "Packer" football, which he preached all week in interviews, much of the second half

yup. we finally get the run to work so then he thinks we should run all every down...except third and long of course.

[pbmax]

Weird computer glitch.

[channtheman]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

False. When MM/Rodgers throws a 40 yard pass that has no play action and will fool no one on 3rd and short, he gets crucified.

[rbaloha1]

First 2 runs great then try play action to avoid being predictable plus avoid potential 3rd and long.

Result was 3rd and long....INCOMPLETE. AR got 1 shot out of 5. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Running clock is important since the Eagles had no timeouts.

What is wrong with trusting a Caper's defense in the case you fail to convert? Proved to be the right decision.

[HowardRoark]

Do we have some "Belichick guys" on the payroll now.....watching Aaron in the post-game interview to see what he says and cut him off.......I wouldn't mind it.

[mmmdk]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

Socrates lives and hippy hip hop Jesus too.

[rbaloha1]

False. When MM/Rodgers throws a 40 yard pass that has no play action and will fool no one on 3rd and short, he gets crucified.

Agreed. I have been critical of MM. However MM called a good game which resulted in a win.

[mission]

Disagree. In a crucial 3rd down MM threw the ball. Rodgers was sacked. Played to win imo.

Versus doing what?? Running the ball with the 2:00 warning coming right up... what would that do? He had no choice.

If there would have been 1:59 on the clock he would have ran the ball (and maybe should have).

Awesome outcome though; I'm not going to complain. Not perfect obviously but the guys made it happen.

[RashanGary]

I loved how we played it. The only game we played all year similar to this one was the Flynn game against the Patriots. And this was a good Eagles team. It's not like we're going in there doing whatever we want as long as we call the right play. They get paid too and they deserve to be in the playoffs. We beat a legit playoff team on the road. That's no easy task. I'm proud of the coaches, even Slocum. He's done a much better job down the stretch. The Packers are a good team. It reminds me of the year Manning won the SB. He just managed that game. AR just won a game managing it. He's going to make plays next week and hopefully the week after, but that type of football we just played, it's winning football. I loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

The biggest play no one will remember is the 3rd and short run with Kuhn. MM took the hot runner Starks out and put in Kuhn. Bad choice. I would have rather seen Starks run it or a play action off of Starks for a short 5-10 yard pass. That was a huge play that I think nearly lost the game for us when we didn't convert.

Also, James Jones is still a fucking loser. Man that guy can not catch.

The runner wasn't the problem. The LB read run right away and made a good play. They could have been served better by altering the tendency there.

[mmmdk]

Even harder. You need to be extra good this week. No graileees.

...and little Bretsky must behave. No texting!

[pbmax]

False. When MM/Rodgers throws a 40 yard pass that has no play action and will fool no one on 3rd and short, he gets crucified.

Most of those are man to man and are open. And the QB can go somewhere else if he reads a better option.

[gbgary]

Running clock is important since the Eagles had no timeouts.

What is wrong with trusting a Caper's defense in the case you fail to convert? Proved to be the right decision.

tighening up like he did almost cost them the game. nothing should have changed from first half to second as far as the o is concerned.

[RashanGary]

Right, pb. I've heard Matthews and Zombo talk about some of their favorite plays. Zombo's, he read a formation by the Vikings and asked coach Green if he could jump it when he saw it. Green said he could if he htought he could make it. Zombo jumped it and made it. I know we remember a couple where Matthews jumped into the backfield. Sometimes when a player knows what's coming or thinks he does, he jumps it and makes a play. That's what happened. But who knows, that play still could have worked. It was 3rd and 1.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

We won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Starks had a great game. The Wrs again had too many drops. They were our biggest weakest this game. I really hope we win next week!

[AtlPackFan]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

And your point is??? :-)

[rbaloha1]

tighening up like he did almost cost them the game. nothing should have changed from first half to second as far as the o is concerned.

Never felt MM "tightened-up" like Sherman did in critical games.

[mmmdk]

Running clock is important since the Eagles had no timeouts.

What is wrong with trusting a Caper's defense in the case you fail to convert? Proved to be the right decision.

Nothing. I shoot at play calling as it looked like a "set up" for the D but frek it, we won. Defense looked awesome sealing the win.

[rbaloha1]

And your point is??? :-)

IMO the point is the Packers won a close road playoff game. So back-off MM.

[mmmdk]

When MM plays aggressive and takes shots on 3rd and short he gets crucified. When he runs out clock he gets crucified.

This has the making of a new kick ass religion. Should beat out the ones around in a rout. :lol:

[AtlPackFan]

IMO the point is the Packers won a close road playoff game. So back-off MM.

I get what he was saying. I was just joking...hence the smiley face. Lighten up.

[mmmdk]

I get what he was saying. I was just joking...hence the smiley face. Lighten up.

Hey AtlPackFan, good to see ya post.

Enjoy the win this week and next week too !

[AtlPackFan]

Hey AtlPackFan, good to see ya post.

Enjoy the win this week and next week too !

Thanks man. iPad makes it easier for me to be involved in the chat while watching the game. You have a great week too!

[Joemailman]

Packers play at 6:30 P.M. Saturday. That will give Bretsky plenty of time to go to church and still get home to start the Game Day thread.

[VegasPackFan]

I still hate James Jones. Please just put him out to pasture...

[digitaldean]

Jones is too inconsistent. For every big play, there's a big TD pass drop or fumble.

I'd look to replace him next year.

Thankful Akers had a lousy game. Amazing a guy of that caliber had a case of shankitis today.

[gbgary]

Packers play at 6:30 P.M. Saturday. That will give Bretsky plenty of time to go to church and still get home to start the Game Day thread.

that's stupid. you'd think the number one seed would have the most time off and would play on sunday (plus we don't need a short week). dammit.

[HowardRoark]

This has the making of a new kick ass religion. Should beat out the ones around in a rout. :lol:

Enjoy - you guys deserve this win. Bless you!

[gbgary]

Jones is too inconsistent. For every big play, there's a big TD pass drop or fumble.

I'd look to replace him next year.

Thankful Akers had a lousy game. Amazing a guy of that caliber had a case of shankitis today.


all the receivers are dropping balls recently. makes me nervous. yes glad he missed those fgs but had he made them mm wouldn't have gotten constipated and would have kept trying to score.

[Bretsky]

Even harder. You need to be extra good this week. No graileees.


now that's just asking WAY TOO MUCH

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

all the receivers are dropping balls recently. makes me nervous. yes glad he missed those fgs but had he made them mm wouldn't have gotten constipated and would have kept trying to score.

You know what guys its that time of year were you cant make much changes now. Yep ALL the wrs dropped passes again today. But we need them going forward. I want to keep advancing in the playoffs and we need everyone to do that, JJ included. I just hope the Wrs focus on catching drills in practice this week and play great next week! Heres hoping we take down the Falcons!

[gbgary]

did anyone at the postgame press conf ask mm about his 4th quarter?

[mmmdk]

Enjoy - you guys deserve this win. Bless you!

Thanx! You too!

[pbmax]

Bretsky is 3 for 3 I think, with the threads and the jinx.

[gbgary]

sterling sharp keeps his streak alive of picking against the Pack in a reverse-jinx to get us a win. he mentions it everytime he makes the picks.

[Jimx29]

that's stupid. you'd think the number one seed would have the most time off and would play on sunday (plus we don't need a short week). dammit.

hey.....us guys who ice race Saturdays and Sundays LOVE the late/night games. Don't have to hurry your ass off to get home :p

[retailguy]

I missed the 2nd half of the game due to a church group. Glad to hear things went so well! Reading the game thread without watching the 2nd half is an experience, let me tell you. I was laughing my ass off!

On to Atlanta..... Another week of FOOTBALL! Whooo Hooo!

[gbgary]

hey.....us guys who ice race Saturdays and Sundays LOVE the late/night games. Don't have to hurry your ass off to get home :p

motorcycles?

[gbgary]

mm said in his postgame news conference that today the Packers "established themselves as a football team." i thought this happened back in 1921.

[packerbacker1234]

I think MM was more proud that the packers proved they can...

1. Run the ball.
2. Not run shotgun all game
3. Be very effective with mixing it up


Those three things were missing all year save the one game Flynn played. It was VERY nice to see a balanced play calling attack and a clear "keep Vick off the damn field" mentality for the gameplan. That is how you beat great playmakers - you keep them on the sidelines. Our defense showed up per usual. Matthews with a big sack and a tackle to stop a 3rd down run. Woodson had some nice pressures. Williams played the way he did all year - nearly perfect. Pass broken up, game ending pick.

Pretty impressive overall. Playcalling left some to be desired in the 4th quarter - we should of put them away instead of sitting on it, but it's alright. We won, and THAT's the bottom line.

[jmbarnes101]

We won, all that matters. And that's the bottom line... because Stone Cold said so.

[pbmax]

I loved the Johnson-Starks backfield. Both can catch the ball and one of them can run. Its like 1994 all over again.

[Bossman641]

After the Bear game MM spent all week talking about how he liked having the identity of the team being the defense. When it came down to it, they got the job done once again.

IMO, complaining about play calls is pointless. If the play worked MM was a genius, if it doesn't he was an idiot. Hard for me to criticize MM trying to run out the clock when Starks was getting 5 yards a pop. The only call I really disagreed with was when they brought in Kuhn for that 3rd and 1 and were stuffed. Starks was on a roll at that point and I would have liked to see him keep getting the ball.

[gbgary]

it came down to a jump ball in the endzone on 1st and 10, from the 27, with 45 seconds left. if that ball had been caught for a touchdown, or one of the next couple of plays had it not been caught or intercepted, everyone's tune would be very different. we lucked out. the Packers pretty much scored at will until mm got conservative.

[OS PA]

Driver with no limp after the game and only a mild knee bruise sustained. If I jinx us with this next statement I'm sorry, but how many injuries have we sustained since Rodgers went out against the Lions? Maybe we finally are getting a stretch of luck this season. McCarthy sure seems dumbfounded during his weekly presser, because he doesn't have any injuries to report on. Jenkins tightened up on that last drive, but wasn't much of a threat the entire game. I preferred having him in there tonight over Big Howard Green, and just think about how the week of rest is gonna help fatten Howie up for stuffing Turner.

[HarveyWallbangers]

False. When MM/Rodgers throws a 40 yard pass that has no play action and will fool no one on 3rd and short, he gets crucified.

Ummm... Flynn had the guy wide open. He just missed the throw.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Whine, whine, bitch, whine, bitch, whine, celebrate but don't admit you're wrong, whine, bitch

That pretty much sums up the game day threads.

[channtheman]

I don't know that I ever posted it in a game thread or a thread, but I know when I watch the game with my dad we both agree that MM needs to do more play action passes on the goal line, and just in general. If I have bitched about MM not doing them, I see no reason to admit I was wrong when after MM finally does them they work. I was actually right.

Honestly, I get so sick and tired of the posts constantly bashing the opposing opinion or those opinions that think our head coach may not be up to snuff. With all the talent MM has to work with, we should be a better team. (For example, I don't know anyone who thought the Bears were more talented than us this year, yet they have a bye and we had to play this week, with a good coach we have 2-3 more wins at least) I hope we win a Super Bowl, but I think it will be in spite of MM and not because of him.

I did, however, think he called a decent game today. Other than the 4th quarter and a few brain farts here and there, it was pretty good. He mainly did what I think he should do though so why am I wrong when it works?

I'm also sick of the people who claim that we only say the playcall was good if it worked and bad if it didn't work. That is pure and utter BS.

[channtheman]

Ummm... Flynn had the guy wide open. He just missed the throw.

I don't even know what you are talking about.

[Bossman641]

Things get a little heated in the game thread. I get a kick out of the people declaring "game over" at the first sign of trouble for the Packers.

[Brandon494]

Chantman, are you seriously trying to compare us to the Bears with all the injuries we have had this season? You forget the Bears also didn't have Peppers or Urlacher last season nor Mike Martz helping Cutler. While I dont agree with MM playcalling all of the time he has done a damn good job all season. Do you also realize how damn near impossible it is to call a perfect game? Although I'm sure it's real easy to call plays from your couch after the play is over. MM is not the one dropping passes and fumbling 4 times yesterday. With all the injuries we have had and to never be down by more than a TD all season is pretty damn impressive to me.

[Bretsky]

Bretsky is 3 for 3 I think, with the threads and the jinx.


Last time I started up game threads we rode to the NFC championship game vs. the Giants.....but the jinx was not yet alive.

[Bretsky]

game day thread are interesting because instead of just sitting back, enjoying and watching the game, we pour our emotions into it...giving MM instant credit and blame for certain calls instead of reflectling on it all. Bottom line here is we won so he gets major kudos for that.

Game thread aside, with Phily's banged up secondary I did think we'd score over 21pts.

We'll need our offense to score more next week to advance IMO

[Scott Campbell]

Whine, whine, bitch, whine, bitch, whine, celebrate but don't admit you're wrong, whine, bitch

That pretty much sums up the game day threads.


Yup.

[Scott Campbell]

Things get a little heated in the game thread. I get a kick out of the people declaring "game over" at the first sign of trouble for the Packers.


But you have to admire their powers of selective amnesia.

[TravisWilliams23]

The Pack had 6 losses this year by a total of 20 points.

Jones fumble against the Bears set up Chicago's winning field goal. Not on coach.

Crosby hits the upright on a game winning field goal at the end of regulation. Not on coach.

Miami's kicker hits a career long 53 yard field goal just before half in the 3rd loss. Opposing player makes a play. Not on coach.

Against Atlanta, Rodgers fumbles into the end zone in taking at least 3 points off the scoreboard. Plus, special teams suck on kick off coverage to put the Falcons in great scoring position at the end of the game. Fumble not on coach but special teams play is.

Detroit, Jennings drops sure TD pass and Rodgers gets injured. Driver had his man beat on 4th down play that Flynn overthrew. Not on coach.

New England. No Rodgers but Pack has Pats on ropes most of the game. Flynn throws pick 6 and special teams allow a LINEMAN to run a kickoff back 70-some yards to keep Pats in the game. Special teams play on coach, interception on players.

Green Bay could have won every one of those games if the players had executed better. Just a 2 game swing puts the Pack at home with a bye. Our top running back goes down in week 1 and the TE weapon goes down in week 5. The defense loses 11 players during the season. I'd say the coaches got the most they could given the adverse circumstances that happened this year. I find it difficult to put the blame on MM for not having a bye week off. Shit happens and we fans get to bitch and piss and moan all day long but at the end of the day the Packers are STILL in the hunt for the Super Bowl and I''ll take that result every year, thank you!

[Pugger]

just so vanilla on the last 3 downs, its classic mccarthy playing not to lose. did u see the sanchez throw yesterday? that is playing to win

You guys make me laugh. If you go back a page or two in this thread you are telling MM to give it to Starks. He does but it doesn't work so you blast MM! Geez guys!

[Pugger]

Vick is a weapon & Rodgers is a weapon but ass hat McCarthy doesn't want to use his best weapon. Stubby, you do not deserve this win.

Good grief! I know you hate MM but get real. Our D is a weapon too. We were running great all game long but Philly's D made a play - imagin that! the other team makes plays too. We win a playoff game on the road in a place we've had scant success and you are bitching. You do realize this is the first ROAD playoff game the Packers have won since 1997?

[Pugger]

Still no close win for McCarthy. this was another 5 point blowout!

:rs:

[Joemailman]

The only play where I question MM's playcalling was running on 2nd and 9. Yet a couple of plays earlier on 2nd and 7, Starks had ripped off a 12 yard run. He may have thought he could get that again. In addition, an incomplete pass there would have stopped the clock and the Falcons probably would have gotten the ball back with 2:30 instead of 1:45. 45 more seconds plus a timeout. That's a huge difference. I suspect that was in the back of MM's mind.

Funny thing about all the criticism of MM being too conservative is that Holmgren used to do the same thing. Once he had a good defense, he would get conservative if he had more than a 3 point lead in the 4th quarter. It drove me nuts, but he won with it. I think MM had a lot of confidence that his defense could keep the Eagles out of the end zone. They did.

[Pugger]

yeah, there's right times and wrong times to run those plays

MM seems to call the wrong damn thing at the wrong time waaaaayy to often

Of course the play called sucks when it doesn't work but is genius when it does. :roll:

[sheepshead]

Driver with no limp after the game and only a mild knee bruise sustained. If I jinx us with this next statement I'm sorry, but how many injuries have we sustained since Rodgers went out against the Lions? Maybe we finally are getting a stretch of luck this season. McCarthy sure seems dumbfounded during his weekly presser, because he doesn't have any injuries to report on. Jenkins tightened up on that last drive, but wasn't much of a threat the entire game. I preferred having him in there tonight over Big Howard Green, and just think about how the week of rest is gonna help fatten Howie up for stuffing Turner.


I heard Donald was limping badly.

[mraynrand]

Good grief! I know you hate MM but get real. Our D is a weapon too. We were running great all game long but Philly's D made a play - imagin that! the other team makes plays too. We win a playoff game on the road in a place we've had scant success and you are bitching. You do realize this is the first ROAD playoff game the Packers have won since 1997?

Woo Hoo! Packers win a playoff game in Philly! Somewhere, someone is sitting on Chuck Bednarik and not letting him get up! 9..8...7..6..5...4...3..2...1... Packers WIN!

[OS PA]

Driver with no limp after the game and only a mild knee bruise sustained. If I jinx us with this next statement I'm sorry, but how many injuries have we sustained since Rodgers went out against the Lions? Maybe we finally are getting a stretch of luck this season. McCarthy sure seems dumbfounded during his weekly presser, because he doesn't have any injuries to report on. Jenkins tightened up on that last drive, but wasn't much of a threat the entire game. I preferred having him in there tonight over Big Howard Green, and just think about how the week of rest is gonna help fatten Howie up for stuffing Turner.



I heard Donald was limping badly.


"Injury report

Driver was the only player who was listed on the post-game injury report.

He said he suffered a bruised knee. He was able to return to the game. After the game he didn’t appear to be limping."

No knowing whether Silverstein actually knows what a limp looks like or not, but I have to go by the only information available to me.

[denverYooper]

The only play where I question MM's playcalling was running on 2nd and 9. Yet a couple of plays earlier on 2nd and 7, Starks had ripped off a 12 yard run. He may have thought he could get that again. In addition, an incomplete pass there would have stopped the clock and the Falcons probably would have gotten the ball back with 2:30 instead of 1:45. 45 more seconds plus a timeout. That's a huge difference. I suspect that was in the back of MM's mind.

Funny thing about all the criticism of MM being too conservative is that Holmgren used to do the same thing. Once he had a good defense, he would get conservative if he had more than a 3 point lead in the 4th quarter. It drove me nuts, but he won with it. I think MM had a lot of confidence that his defense could keep the Eagles out of the end zone. They did.

That right there.

[denverYooper]

Whine, whine, bitch, whine, bitch, whine, celebrate but don't admit you're wrong, whine, bitch

That pretty much sums up the game day threads.

Ok. I'll admit I was wrong about Bush's Talking Heads collection. I don't think he was really that big a fan of 80's avant-garde pop. After some reflection on it, I believe he's probably more of an Elvis man.

[Guiness]

The Pack had 6 losses this year by a total of 20 points.

Jones fumble against the Bears set up Chicago's winning field goal. Not on coach.

Crosby hits the upright on a game winning field goal at the end of regulation. Not on coach.

Miami's kicker hits a career long 53 yard field goal just before half in the 3rd loss. Opposing player makes a play. Not on coach.

Against Atlanta, Rodgers fumbles into the end zone in taking at least 3 points off the scoreboard. Plus, special teams suck on kick off coverage to put the Falcons in great scoring position at the end of the game. Fumble not on coach but special teams play is.

Detroit, Jennings drops sure TD pass and Rodgers gets injured. Driver had his man beat on 4th down play that Flynn overthrew. Not on coach.

New England. No Rodgers but Pack has Pats on ropes most of the game. Flynn throws pick 6 and special teams allow a LINEMAN to run a kickoff back 70-some yards to keep Pats in the game. Special teams play on coach, interception on players.

Green Bay could have won every one of those games if the players had executed better. Just a 2 game swing puts the Pack at home with a bye. Our top running back goes down in week 1 and the TE weapon goes down in week 5. The defense loses 11 players during the season. I'd say the coaches got the most they could given the adverse circumstances that happened this year. I find it difficult to put the blame on MM for not having a bye week off. Shit happens and we fans get to bitch and piss and moan all day long but at the end of the day the Packers are STILL in the hunt for the Super Bowl and I''ll take that result every year, thank you!

That's a pretty selective analysis of the losses. Of course you can pick a play in each game, call it the game-breaker, and say it wasn't the coaches fault. Big picture is where the coach matters, and in most (all?) of those, there was big picture issues.

To pick a couple of them...against Chicago, sure Jone's fumble was a back breaker. Team doesn't get called for an insane number of penalties though (which is on coach) I bet that play is a non-issue. McCarthy, however, did get that fixed :lol:

Late in the 4th Q against NE, we had the ball, plenty of time on the clock and a chance to win. We squandered about 5 minutes, and ran out of time at the end. Bad clock management, that's on coach.

I'm not bitching about coach here, he's done a great job these past few weeks! But to absolve him of all fault...well, that guy who's birthday we just celebrated is the only one without sin!

[HarveyWallbangers]

We are now 11-6. We have won in 5 blowouts. We are 6-6 in our close games.

[TravisWilliams23]

That's a pretty selective analysis of the losses. Of course you can pick a play in each game, call it the game-breaker, and say it wasn't the coaches fault. Big picture is where the coach matters, and in most (all?) of those, there was big picture issues.

To pick a couple of them...against Chicago, sure Jone's fumble was a back breaker. Team doesn't get called for an insane number of penalties though (which is on coach) I bet that play is a non-issue. McCarthy, however, did get that fixed :lol:

Late in the 4th Q against NE, we had the ball, plenty of time on the clock and a chance to win. We squandered about 5 minutes, and ran out of time at the end. Bad clock management, that's on coach.

I'm not bitching about coach here, he's done a great job these past few weeks! But to absolve him of all fault...well, that guy who's birthday we just celebrated is the only one without sin!



Wasn't absolving MM of all guilt. In 2 of my example games I specifically blamed the special teams play on coach. My point was that in all 6 loses the players were directly responsible for not getting the job done. Just 2 wins out of those 6 loses gives GB a bye and home field for at least 1 more game. Example from Eagles playoff game is Jones dropped TD pass before half. Change the entire complex of game. If we're up 21-3 at half, it's turn out the lights, the party's over. Didn't result in a loss but made the game a lot more interesting. MM has been challenge challenged his whole career. He refuses to let assistants go who need to be let go. He's definitely not without fault but at some point you have to hold the players to the fire for screwing up what might have been the proper play call.

[sheepshead]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthys-Wild-Card-Victory-Speech-at-Eagles/9278301e-797e-4f56-bc3c-667736a6dc20

[sheepshead]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthys-Wild-Card-Victory-Speech-at-Eagles/9278301e-797e-4f56-bc3c-667736a6dc20

Pretty Cool Locker room chatter

[vince]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthys-Wild-Card-Victory-Speech-at-Eagles/9278301e-797e-4f56-bc3c-667736a6dc20

Pretty Cool Locker room chatter
NICE!

[Joemailman]

Imagine how excited those guys would have been if they'd won by 4 or less.

[mraynrand]

Imagine how excited those guys would have been if they'd won by 4 or less.
:lol:

[Jimx29]

Whine, whine, bitch, whine, bitch, whine, celebrate but don't admit you're wrong, whine, bitch

That pretty much sums up the game day threads.

This, plus more exciting stories next month in Duh!! magazine :lol:

[swede]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthys-Wild-Card-Victory-Speech-at-Eagles/9278301e-797e-4f56-bc3c-667736a6dc20

Pretty Cool Locker room chatter

McCarthy had that post game speech nailed; he was cruising along and then he just took his foot off the gas and barely made it to the end before Charles Woodson stepped in and the defense bailed out Stubby once again. I know visiting locker room speeches can be challenging but the team was ready to go and I'm not sure MM was.

[pbmax]

McCarthy had that post game speech nailed; he was cruising along and then he just took his foot off the gas and barely made it to the end before Charles Woodson stepped in and the defense bailed out Stubby once again. I know visiting locker room speeches can be challenging but the team was ready to go and I'm not sure MM was.

He lost his play chart. After that, it was all seat of the pants speechifying.

[mmmdk]

I'm a ray of frecking positive light - deal with it! If I didn't have Stubby as my game day punching bag...all would be darkness.

And you don't want that - trust me! :lol:

[call_me_ishmael]

Bump for Bretsky to reference for Karma.