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red
08-09-2006, 08:21 AM
i know there are a few of us that have been looking over at troll lnad waiting for them to cut one of their WR's, so we can pick em up. many people agree that Mike williams would be a stud in our system and rodgers wouldn't be bad either

now this could all just be for motivation, but it could be for real. i read awhile back on a lions news site that rodgers was close to gone and that if it wasn't for the huge signing bonus williams jusy got last year, he would already be gone. the team doesn't like his attitude, and he doesn't fit their system at all (its like bringing a monster truck to the indy 500).

heres an article from today

boosted from the detroit news


Rogers, Williams drop in rotation

Former first-round picks are running third team on depth chart for Friday's exhibition game.

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News


ALLEN PARK -- It is written on paper, not in stone, which makes it subject to change.

But the first semi-official ranking of the Lions' wide receivers is more noteworthy for who is on the bottom than who's on top.

Roy Williams and Corey Bradford are the starting receivers on the depth chart released by the team for Friday night's exhibition game against Denver. No surprise there. They have been the No. 1 tandem from the start of the offseason workouts.

The surprise comes further down. Mike Williams and Charles Rogers, former first-round draft picks, are listed with the third group. Ahead of them with the second group are Glenn Martinez and Mike Furrey.

Martinez spent most of last season on the practice squad. Furrey was moved from wide receiver after two seasons to defensive back last year in St. Louis.

And when practice started Tuesday morning, Shaun Bodiford, an undrafted rookie from Portland State, was working with the first unit.

No one involved should have trouble reading the handwriting on the wall, that there are few secure jobs among the wide receivers. The depth chart was not a mistake. How valid is it?

"It's how we're going to go into this game," coach Rod Marinelli said. "That's how we're going to start the game -- go like that and let everybody perform, get good reps and let's go."

The Lions have invested heavily in Rogers and Mike Williams, with signing bonuses of $14.4 million and $9.5 million, respectively, for drafting them in the first round. It was mentioned to Marinelli that it is stunning to see two recent first-round picks languishing on the depth chart as third-stringers. Marinelli shrugged and smiled slightly.

"That's how we line them up," Marinelli said. "Here we go."

That's how they start the exhibition season. It does not mean that's how they will end it.

A 21-day period, from Friday's game with Denver until the Lions end the exhibition season at home against Buffalo, will hammer the depth chart at receiver in stone.

Every receiver in camp will get a fair chance to make the final 53-player roster. Don't think reputation and financial investment might not play a role when the final cut is made. But it also would be folly on the part of any player to count on it.

No position has been watched as intently as the receivers. Every practice -- in some cases, every play -- has given cause to adjust the depth chart. In some ways, it has been like trying to predict where the ball will land on the next turn of the roulette wheel.

But make no mistake. The receivers are playing a game of opportunity, not chance. Jobs and careers are on the line.

"We're just making guys earn it and earn it and earn it," Marinelli said. "Guys are moving -- moving down, moving up. A guy has a good practice, move up. Bodiford had a great scrimmage the other night. Give him a shot. Get a few snaps with the first group.

"Let guys run, see how they react under that type of pressure. You just mix guys in. Let's go compete and see what we've got."

Roy Williams, a first-round pick in 2004, is rock-solid secure. He is an emerging star who makes a highlight catch almost every day in camp. Bradford is a solid complement on the other side. After that, it's a jumble.

Return specialist Eddie Drummond is getting a long look at receiver. He was listed with the fourth group on the depth chart, but he has worked regularly with the first two units.

Offensive coordinator Mike Martz coached Furrey in St. Louis and loves his toughness. Furrey caught 20 passes in 2003 and one in '04. He moved to defensive back to fill a void.

Rogers started camp on an upswing but leveled off quickly. There have been no flashes of speed. It would seem Mike Williams has moved ahead of him. His size, strength and hands make him a bigger factor.

How much staying power Bodiford and Martinez have is open to question.

One thing seems certain -- jobs won't be won on reputation.

TheRaven
08-09-2006, 10:13 AM
No big surprises..Rogers has been a complete bust and Williams should have never been a Top 10 pick to begin with.

Partial
08-09-2006, 10:19 AM
Rodgers has looked very good when he wasn't hurt and was playing and not high.

His first season he opened it with a 2 touchdown performance in the first half, 100 yards and then got hurt. Lame!

BlueBrewer
08-09-2006, 10:23 AM
[quote="Partial"]Rodgers has looked very good when he wasn't hurt and was playing and not high.



When was that? :?:

woodbuck27
08-09-2006, 10:36 AM
I was over on a Raider Fan Forum yesterday and some fan suggested a rumor, of The Lions trading Charles Rogers to the Raadaas for WR Jerry Porter. Hahahahaha.

That gave comfort to the fans there "like a wet blanket on a cold fall night'.

It seems, that alot of the Raider fans are just plain fed up with Jerry Porter and want him to just plain sit, rather than just take anything for him in a trade.

Al Davis is playing hardball to date with Jerry Porter. Al Davis - is the Raiders - in many fans minds. The face of the team, not any player. He has alot of fan respect, as my observation.

The fans feel like - Charles Rogers ehh!!?? Why not a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and of course - a cold beer.

red
08-09-2006, 10:48 AM
No big surprises..Rogers has been a complete bust and Williams should have never been a Top 10 pick to begin with.

i'm sorry, but thats just plain stupid

mike williams was one of the most dominating college wr's i've even seen. i thought he was a complete steal at where he went, the problem is he went to the lions who have no clue how to use him. he should have been a top 5 pick in my mind. this guy will dominate at the pro level in the WCO

vince
08-09-2006, 05:26 PM
I'd give either one of them a shot over Fergy.

BallHawk
08-09-2006, 05:58 PM
I'd prefer Mike Williams. 6'5, 230, he's a big guy. Maybe Donald could straighten him out. :wink:

mraynrand
08-09-2006, 08:33 PM
Different players respond differently to coaches' tactics. The success or failure of this move by Marinelli will tell you a lot about him. If the WRs really suck, then it doesn't matter excet for wasted money. If it motivates them to produce, then it's all good (for Detroit). Who knows. NFL personalities are all over the map - some prima donnas, should they get slapped down to 3rd string, will just quit.

It will be interesting to see what happens, especially since they have Bradford now. Bradford is the single best argument for bringing back stickum.

PackerPro42
08-09-2006, 09:03 PM
I would love to see the packers pick up Rogers if they're just going to use him for a third stringer.

Guiness
08-10-2006, 04:45 AM
I had no idea he'd fallen that far - I remember the Lions gushing over the fact that there was a player of that quality availble where they drafted, they couldn't pass him up, etc.

One year later, third string. Wow.

Tony Oday
08-10-2006, 10:51 AM
OOOOHHHHH Rogers I like that guy fast but stupid with injury concerns. I think the injuries were flukes and just keep him away from APB in GB and then you dont have to worry about him with the green.

ACTUALLY make it in his contract that if he goes out partying he has to go with Taucher, Spitz and Hawk. Cant go parting by himself he gets in trouble but could you imagine getting on the bad side of one of those three?

woodbuck27
08-10-2006, 03:48 PM
I was over on a Raider Fan Forum yesterday and some fan suggested a rumor, of The Lions trading Charles Rogers to the Raadaas for WR Jerry Porter. Hahahahaha.

That gave comfort to the fans there "like a wet blanket on a cold fall night'.

It seems, that alot of the Raider fans are just plain fed up with Jerry Porter and want him to just plain sit, rather than just take anything for him in a trade.

Al Davis is playing hardball to date with Jerry Porter. Al Davis - is the Raiders - in many fans minds. The face of the team, not any player. He has alot of fan respect, as my observation.

The fans feel like - Charles Rogers ehh!!?? Why not a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and of course - a cold beer.

Jerry Porter is back at the Raiders TC working out with the second team.

Raider fans simply want him to straighten up and act for "the Team".

This from:

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=77188

TODAY !

* Wide receiver Jerry Porter, who continues to work out with the second-team offense, made his most impressive play of camp when he went across the field and, with his arms stretched out, caught a pass on his fingertips from Tuiasosopo.

''Hey Porter,'' yelled safety Jarrod Cooper from the sidelines.

''Why can't you do that with the (starters)?''

Porter, showing a rare moment of levity, chuckled and replied, ''I'm not with the (starters).''

Fans will forgive if a player gives. Hey Robert Ferguson!