Packer Rats MOCK DRAFT

[gbpackfan]

Now that the combine is over, I thought I'd fire up the mock draft. Pick a team, or two, and I will fill in your name on the master list. Once every team has a "GM," we will start making selections. Make your selections in a timely fashion or the person with the team up next will make your selection for you. As always, the Packers pick will come from a Packer Rats poll. If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to write them down after your team pick. Like how many rounds we should go for?

1. Carolina Panters
2. Denver Broncos
3. Buffalo Bills
4. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Arizona Cardinals
6. Cleveland Browns
7. San Francisco
8. Tennesse Titans
9. Dallas Cowboys
10. Washington Redskins
11. Houston Texans
12. Minnesota Vikings
13. Detroit Lions
14. St. Louis Rams
15. Miami Dolphins
16. Jacksonville Jaguars
17. New England Patriots
18. San Diego Chargers
19. New York Giants
20. Tampa Bay Bucs
21. Kansas City Chiefs
22. Indianapolis Colts
23. Philadelphia Eagles
24. New Orleans Saints
25. Seattle Seahawks
26. Baltimore Ravens
27. Atlanta Falcons
28. New England Patroits
29. Chicago Bears
30. New York Jets
31. Pittsburgh Steelers
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS!

[pbmax]

I'll take the Redskins. If we need 2 per GM, I'll take the Bears too.

[Mazzin]

I will take the Atl falcons. Gave says he wants to do the lions. Let us know it that's a problem.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I'll take the cards at 5.

Edit: If you need two I'll take the Titans also.

[Lurker64]

I will take the Chiefs, and if you need people to do two teams, I will also take the Bills.

[swede]

I will take the Steelers. My two favorite teams were in the Super Bowl. Those that would make themselves first shall be last.

I'll also take the Jets, but will give them up to a teamless rat should it become necessary.

[Joemailman]

I'll take the Patriots and the Patriots.

[mission]

I'll take the Vikings and the Lions...



So I can trade the picks to the Packers for Nick Barnett and Brett Swain.



(jk)

[Guiness]

I will take the Chiefs, and if you need people to do two teams, I will also take the Bills.

If you don't mind, I'll take the Bills, closest thing to a home town team for me, so I get more news about them than any other.

[Lurker64]

If you don't mind, I'll take the Bills, closest thing to a home town team for me, so I get more news about them than any other.

Go for it, that was just my second choice in case we didn't have enough people. Anybody who would have my second choice as their first is welcome to it.

[Bretsky]

Rams

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters
2. Denver Broncos
3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns
7. San Francisco
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers
19. New York Giants
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles
24. New Orleans Saints
25. Seattle Seahawks
26. Baltimore Ravens
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

*Indicates persons second choice. Can be taken by another Rat.

[3irty1]

Dolphins and Colts

[Bretsky]

I'll take the Eagles if we are taking a 2nd team

[packrulz]

I'll take the Seahawks.

[RashanGary]

Cowboys and Jaguars

[swede]

Nobody wants to look bad by calling the Panthers and getting the first pick wrong.

If it were me I'd take that Patrick Peterson kid. I know the reasons for not taking a cornerback. But in the combine he had all the grace of a superior 5'10' cornerback with elite speed and the size of a tall safety.

He is the Best Player Available when the show opens on a Thursday night hence.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters
2. Denver Broncos
3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns
7. San Francisco
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - JustinHarrell
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell*
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers
19. New York Giants
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints
25. Seattle Seahawks - Packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[Deputy Nutz]

I will take the Panthers

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'll take the Bungles.

[Smidgeon]

I know almost nothing about the prospects, but I can fake it long enough to mock the Browns.

[mraynrand]

I'll take the 49ers

[pbmax]

I know almost nothing about the prospects, but I can fake it long enough to mock the Browns.

You are actually perfect for the job. At least for the Browns 2.0. :)

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - Deputy Nutz
2. Denver Broncos
3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - JustinHarrell
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell*
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers
19. New York Giants
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints
25. Seattle Seahawks - Packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

ONLY A FEW TEAMS LEFT! If you only have one team, grab another. And after a day or two, We may have to go three teams deep per rat.

[packrulz]

I'll take the Broncos too then.

[Fritz]

I'll take the Bungles.

I was thinking of taking them so I could pick the prospect with the longest rap sheet and the biggest bust potential. Fritz liked Odell Thurman; Fritz knows Bungles people!

[SavedByGrace]

I'll take the Chargers and Saints

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll take the giants

[Freak Out]

I'll take "Disturbing Sexual Trends in the Pacific Northwest" for $100 please.

[mission]

Ill take the Ravens if they aren't taken...

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - Deputy Nutz
2. Denver Broncos - packrulz*
3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - JustinHarrell
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell*
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

THE FIELD IS SET!

Carolina - You're on the clock!!!!

[Spaulding]

Shoot, late to the party again :) Guess I'll monitor and chuckle at the picks

[swede]

Carolina, you should know that it is almost impossible to succeed in the NFL without a good punter, and they go fast.

[Lurker64]

Shoot, late to the party again :) Guess I'll monitor and chuckle at the picks

You can be Mel Kiper, or if you don't actually know anything about the draft then you can be Todd McShay.

[RashanGary]

Shoot, late to the party again :) Guess I'll monitor and chuckle at the picks

If gbpackfan is OK with it and you want it, you can have the Cowboy pick. I'll keep pick 16.

[mission]

You can be Mel Kiper, or if you don't actually know anything about the draft then you can be Todd McShay.

Yeah, we should appoint a couple "analysts" that can chime in on the picks and give commentary. :)

[gbpackfan]

If gbpackfan is OK with it and you want it, you can have the Cowboy pick. I'll keep pick 16.

Done! Spaulding, you now own the Cowboys pick. Good looking out JustinHarrell.

[gbpackfan]

Yeah, we should appoint a couple "analysts" that can chime in on the picks and give commentary. :)

Love this idea!

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - Deputy Nutz
2. Denver Broncos - packrulz*
3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[Fritz]

Carolina, you should know that it is almost impossible to succeed in the NFL without a good punter, and they go fast.

I nominate Swede tp be the expert analysit - he is clearly channeling his inner Mike Sherman.

[mraynrand]

Could Sherman find a way to trade up from the first pick to get that coveted punter?

[Smidgeon]

Carolina, you should know that it is almost impossible to succeed in the NFL without a good punter, and they go fast.

I hear Long Snappers are gold too.

[pbmax]

Shoot, late to the party again :) Guess I'll monitor and chuckle at the picks

I can share, I have the Bears, they can be yours if you want 'em. I will still be picking for the Washington Snyders.

[pbmax]

I put out the flaming Viking Ship Bat Signal to see if we could round up Rastak for some expert commentary. He and Swede would be tremendous. And obviously much more qualified than many Rats GMs at making picks, just like in actual NFL football.

[Lurker64]

Love this idea!

At the same time, everybody should feel free to just jump in and comment on picks that people have made.

A distinction, however, keep in mind that if you absolutely want to rip a pick as absolutely stupid, keep in mind that the person making that pick may well have been attempting more to "roleplay the GM" than "make an intelligent pick." So if the Raiders reach for a really fast guy, or the Cowboys pick a WR or RB ahead of a player of higher value at a position that would make more sense, that's probably just the fact that Al Davis is old and crazy and Jerrah Jones sees stars.

So, if you (general second-person pronoun) end up making a stupid pick, just pretend that you were acknowledging the fact that team's GM is a bum.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I hate to say it, but without any free agency activity due to the extension (lockout), it'll be tough to tell which holes teams plan to fill via draft and which through free agency. Even the top picks are more muddled this year than usual.

[Joemailman]

I'd go looking for Nutz to tell him he's on the clock, but I'm afraid of where I'd find him.

[Bretsky]

Nutz will probably be at the booby club til next Friday.

He left for there the sam say the 14 took off for Illinois and is trying to outlast them

Who will return first, Nuts or the Zerocrats ?

[Lurker64]

Who will return first, Nuts or the Zerocrats ?

Perhaps one has gone to retrieve the other.

[pbmax]

Nutz will probably be at the booby club til next Friday.

He left for there the sam say the 14 took off for Illinois and is trying to outlast them

Who will return first, Nuts or the Zerocrats ?

Which forum are we in?

[Guiness]

Nutz will probably be at the booby club til next Friday.

He left for there the sam say the 14 took off for Illinois and is trying to outlast them

Who will return first, Nuts or the Zerocrats ?

Charlie Sheen will see them both to the door when they leave.

[Guiness]

Let me be the first to point out to my fellow GM's, especially Nutz and Packrulz what a wonderful prospect Cam Newton is. Could not be more impressed, and think the boy will tear it up in the NFL, he's a franchise QB just waiting to be taken. Don't miss this big chance!

Don't bother with all the fast talking others are doing about that guy who plays CB. I mean, how important is that? Takes away maybe half the field on D. I mean, a QB is so much more important, the best defense is a good offense, don't ya know?

Your ever helpful Buffalo GM

[LEWCWA]

I'll take the cowgirls.

[LEWCWA]

oops gone, give me the bears...

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Someone can have one of mine if they still want to get in.

[pbmax]

oops gone, give me the bears...

They are all yours buddy.

[pbmax]

The Redskins are said to be thinking of trading the 10th pick for some Six Flags coupons and a box of frozen churros. If that deal falls though, they really think Randy Moss could be the missing ingredient on offense after Shanahan fires his defensive coaching staff. They are also said to be considering adding Kevin Kolb to solidify the QB situation and present McNabb with a friendly face this season.

Barring those developments, Vernon Gholston, who came into the NFL with impeccable collegiate credentials, might help boost the defense too. About the only thing the Redskins are not considering is doing using the pick on someone trustworthy.

[gbpackfan]

I'll give Deputy Nutz until tomorrow night to make his pick, then we have to move on. I sent him a pm already.

[gbpackfan]

Packrulz - Go ahead and pick the first two spots. Deputy is MIA!

[Guiness]

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2011/03/mock-draft-v10-we-will-mock-you.html

I wanted to see what they're saying in Carolina, and apparently it's some pretty stupid stuff. 3 QB's in the top 10, going 1, 3 and 10. Peterson falling to 6th :lol:

Best part is, I could see it happening!

[packrulz]

Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

[packrulz]

The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

[Bretsky]

Da Rams, next years division winner, clap as they see two first round busts coming off the board right off the bat !

[Pugger]

Shoot, late to the party again :) Guess I'll monitor and chuckle at the picks

Me too. I don't know enough about this class anyway...

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness
4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll


GUINESS, you're up!

[Deputy Nutz]

This is weird, I thought I made my selection a page and a half ago. I selected Nick Fairley for the Panthers, but apparently my post didn't show up!? Well I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't MIA, I though I had mad a selection.

[mraynrand]

This is weird, I thought I made my selection a page and a half ago. I selected Nick Fairley for the Panthers, but apparently my post didn't show up!? Well I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't MIA, I though I had mad a selection.

Sweet! Da'Quan Bowers is still on the board!

[swede]

Next year Nutz gets the Vikings.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Is it 1.19 yet?

[gbpackfan]

This is weird, I thought I made my selection a page and a half ago. I selected Nick Fairley for the Panthers, but apparently my post didn't show up!? Well I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't MIA, I though I had mad a selection.

Do you want the Houston Texans pick?

[Guiness]

The Bills are left with a real poser here.

They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want.

The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3.

But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year:pack: by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft.

The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

[Bretsky]

I'm in charge of mocking each draft pick........or at least commenting

Da Bills pick the top CB over any QB in the draft. Rumor has it next year they will bring back Anthony Dilweg and Don Majikowski to compete with Brian Brohm and Fyan Ritzpatrick.
Rather than a boom or bust QB pick they draft the sure thing at CB.

The Rams have had their eye on their guy for 18 months now; they wait in anticipation of seeing him in 12 picks

[gbpackfan]

The Bills are left with a real poser here.

They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want.

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker
5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

The Bengals (Tennessee) are on the clock!

[Bretsky]

interesting..........of the next five teams.....three have QB's who suck and one has a QB who wants to leave the team

[MJZiggy]

interesting..........of the next five teams.....three have QB's who suck and one has a QB who wants to leave the team

Smells like a trade waiting to happen...except for one minor detail.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5.

Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...

With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

[Bretsky]

and one QB is out; Bengals draft pick took some stones
time will tell if they passed on Jemarcus Russell or a future superstar

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD
6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[jmbarnes101]

I missed the sign up? That sucks...

[swede]

I missed the sign up? That sucks...

You want the Jets?

[pbmax]

You want the Jets?

How many times has that question been asked in frustration by both their owners and fans?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them.

The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

[Bretsky]

Cardinals just selected the Defensive Player of the Year; Congrads

Without a QB, the defense will be on the field 80% of the time so that will only help Von Miller :)

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon
7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[Guiness]

The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them.

The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

Well done.

Von Miller looks like he's going to be a very good player, and should have an immediate impact on the Card's defense. He's at a more impactful position than the CB I took, and this could easily prove to be the best pick of the first round.

[Smidgeon]

The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Cardinals just selected the Defensive Player of the Year; Congrads

Without a QB, the defense will be on the field 80% of the time so that will only help Von Miller :)

lol I was about to go QB, but I don't think they can pass on Miller. They need a good young pass rusher.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Well done.

Von Miller looks like he's going to be a very good player, and should have an immediate impact on the Card's defense. He's at a more impactful position than the CB I took, and this could easily prove to be the best pick of the first round.

Thanks, I think this pick makes a lot if sense.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand
8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[mraynrand]

49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD*
9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[3irty1]

Nick Fairley still on the board?!

[pbmax]

Nick Fairley still on the board?!

Who the heck are you, his agent?!

Shanahan is very distressed you spoke out.

[Smidgeon]

Nick Fairley still on the board?!

I would say that's a fairly accurate statement. <snicker>

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn. :)

[pbmax]

gbpackfan, I would like to formally file tampering charges against 3irty1. Expect a formal, written request within the hour.

[Lurker64]

Fairley falling isn't actually entirely unreasonable. There are character concerns up and out the wazoo with this guy, and the suspicion is that he's got a bit if Haynesworth's personality without having Haynesworth's talent.

So while Fairley could be a great player, he's also an extremely risky pick. Depending on the job security of the person making that pick, he may be less desirable for specifically that reason.

The interesting thing right now is as it stands, there's a realistic chance that Cam Newton falls to the Vikings. Now wouldn't that be entertaining.

[gbpackfan]

gbpackfan, I would like to formally file tampering charges against 3irty1. Expect a formal, written request within the hour.

Hope this helps pbmax!

http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/2009%20NFL%20Anti-Tampering%20Policy.pdf

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn


9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding
10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[Guiness]

Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn. :)

Funniest thing I've seen about the draft this year was a mock that had Tennessee taking VY2 - Cam Newton.

[Bretsky]

oh Spaulding where art thou ??

[3irty1]

I seem to remember these threads going about 10x faster than this.

[Smidgeon]

I seem to remember these threads going about 10x faster than this.

That was without the firestorm CBA and decertification threads.

[gbpackfan]

Ya, this is brutal. Spaulding has a couple hours to make his pick and then it goes to pbmax.

[Bretsky]

maybe this is like MN passing on their pick to be a cheapskate

[gbpackfan]

pbmax - PLEASE make the next two picks. Spaulding is MIA.

[PackerPro42]

I'll pick for the Cowboys! The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

[Smidgeon]

So...does anyone want to give an over/under on whether the real draft concludes before this mock draft does? :|

[Lurker64]

So...does anyone want to give an over/under on whether the real draft concludes before this mock draft does? :|

We always run into this issue. Remember, though, that the real draft is more than a month away.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax
11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan*
12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

pbmax is up! Just make your pick pbmax, packerpro stepped up for the Cowboys pick.

[pbmax]

Washington Potomac Drainage Basin Indigenous Persons (Dan Snyder has refused to allow use of the trademarked name Redskins in any pro football related coverage unless a media outlet is an "official partner". Since PackerRats offical budget for FY '10-11 is a grand total of $11.73, we will need to name them in an alternative manner)

Needs: QB, DLine (nose and pass rusher), OT

Thoughts: Shanahan retains all the arrogance he displayed in his previous stint in Denver. He butted heads with his vet QB all season long, almost acting like the trade had been foisted upon him by Snyder. The odds are long against McNabb's return. Behind him is the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman and John Beck. Shanahan has grabbed a first round QB before, but in that case, it was a second tier guy who climbed the board during silly season and was taken 11th overall.

Cutler was a classic pocket QB who has a great arm, very good mobility and a 13 year old's attitude. But Ryan Mallet is a big reach here. So is Jake Locker. Cam Newton might fit the bill, and Shanahan would probably not shrink from the challenge if he thought Newton could cut it as an NFL QB.

Dareus and Fairley are both gone. Wilkerson and Liuget are available for the inside, though Liuget may be a reach at 10. For pass rush, Watt, Smith and Kerrigan are possible as pass rushers.

Castonzo and Smith are the possibilities at O Tackle.

Given the absence of Free Agency, Shanahan will have to do something at QB. That something will be Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

[Smidgeon]

Why do I get the feeling the PR Mock Draft is more realistic than many of the pundits' mock drafts out there?

[Bretsky]

IMO the Redskins take Newton in the draft as well

[Lurker64]

IMO the Redskins take Newton in the draft as well

If he's there, sure. But I'm thinking he probably won't be. I mean, I wouldn't take Cam Newton in the top 10, but there's talk of him going #1 overall.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Needs: QB, DLine (nose and pass rusher), OT. Thoughts: Shanahan retains all the arrogance he displayed in his previous stint in Denver. He butted heads with his vet QB all season long, almost acting like the trade had been foisted upon him by Snyder. The odds are long against McNabb's return. Behind him is the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman and John Beck. Shanahan has grabbed a first round QB before, but in that case, it was a second tier guy who climbed the board during silly season and was taken 11th overall. Cutler was a classic pocket QB who has a great arm, very good mobility and a 13 year old's attitude. But Ryan Mallet is a big reach here. So is Jake Locker. Cam Newton might fit the bill, and Shanahan would probably not shrink from the challenge if he thought Newton could cut it as an NFL QB. Dareus and Fairley are both gone. Wilkerson and Liuget are available for the inside, though Liuget may be a reach at 10. For pass rush, Watt, Smith and Kerrigan are possible as pass rushers. Castonzo and Smith are the possibilities at O Tackle. Given the absence of Free Agency, Shanahan will have to do something at QB. That something will be Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - Well this is exactly where the Texans did not want to be. Both CBs worth drafting this high have already been taken and Von Miller and Robert Quinn are off the board as well. If I were the Texans GM, I would trade down. But since Im not and this is just a silly online mock draft, Ill make the pick. The Texans are switching the 3-4 defense and need players to fit that scheme. With no CBs or OLBs worth drafting this high, they take the best DL still on the board. With the 11th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select........California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission
13. Detroit Lions - Gave
14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky
15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - pbmax*
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[LEWCWA]

are you going to give me the bears?

[gbpackfan]

are you going to give me the bears?

If pbmax wants to give them up.

[pbmax]

If pbmax wants to give them up.

Go right ahead. I gave him the OK a few pages ago.

[swede]

The Apathy Club just notified us that this thread is infringing upon their territory but they don't feel like doing anything about it.

[mission]

Pick 12:

The Vikings love everything about Wisconsin so JJ Watt is a very tempting pick given some uncertainty along their defensive line. But because of the contract situation with Sidney Rice and the lack of depth behind him, MN feels obligated to go WR and Julio Jones' upside is just too much to pass on. Playing in a run-first scheme with a decent-not-great QB at Alabama, there's belief that Jones could shine even brighter on the NFL stage. His combine performance on an injured foot only solidified this thinking.

[mission]

dp

[gabe]

Pick 13: LIONS. The lions deff need help on the O-Line Godser Cherilus will be fine on the Right side, and either Tyron Smith, or Anthony Castonzo look nice. I'm not sure who the lions would like better, but I know I like Castonzo better, so thats the pick.

With the 13th pick overall the Lions select Anthony Castonzo!

That didn't take too long did it? :)

[Bretsky]

The Rams are sending a hitman right now to take out Mission for selecting their guy
It is a good thing for the NFC North though because the Vikes have no QB to throw to him

The Rams are on the clock and will pick soon

[Bretsky]

St. Louis Rams: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
Chris Long had an incredible season, but the Rams need a pass-rusher on the other side of the line of scrimmage. James Hall is also coming off a great year, but he just turned 34. St. Louis will need to find a long-term successor soon.

Aldon Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Needs: QB, DLine (nose and pass rusher), OT. Thoughts: Shanahan retains all the arrogance he displayed in his previous stint in Denver. He butted heads with his vet QB all season long, almost acting like the trade had been foisted upon him by Snyder. The odds are long against McNabb's return. Behind him is the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman and John Beck. Shanahan has grabbed a first round QB before, but in that case, it was a second tier guy who climbed the board during silly season and was taken 11th overall. Cutler was a classic pocket QB who has a great arm, very good mobility and a 13 year old's attitude. But Ryan Mallet is a big reach here. So is Jake Locker. Cam Newton might fit the bill, and Shanahan would probably not shrink from the challenge if he thought Newton could cut it as an NFL QB. Dareus and Fairley are both gone. Wilkerson and Liuget are available for the inside, though Liuget may be a reach at 10. For pass rush, Watt, Smith and Kerrigan are possible as pass rushers. Castonzo and Smith are the possibilities at O Tackle. Given the absence of Free Agency, Shanahan will have to do something at QB. That something will be Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - Well this is exactly where the Texans did not want to be. Both CBs worth drafting this high have already been taken and Von Miller and Robert Quinn are off the board as well. If I were the Texans GM, I would trade down. But since Im not and this is just a silly online mock draft, Ill make the pick. The Texans are switching the 3-4 defense and need players to fit that scheme. With no CBs or OLBs worth drafting this high, they take the best DL still on the board. With the 11th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select........California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - The Vikings love everything about Wisconsin so JJ Watt is a very tempting pick given some uncertainty along their defensive line. But because of the contract situation with Sidney Rice and the lack of depth behind him, MN feels obligated to go WR and Julio Jones' upside is just too much to pass on. Playing in a run-first scheme with a decent-not-great QB at Alabama, there's belief that Jones could shine even brighter on the NFL stage. His combine performance on an injured foot only solidified this thinking.

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Pick 13: LIONS. The lions deff need help on the O-Line Godser Cherilus will be fine on the Right side, and either Tyron Smith, or Anthony Castonzo look nice. I'm not sure who the lions would like better, but I know I like Castonzo better, so thats the pick. With the 13th pick overall the Lions select Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri . Chris Long had an incredible season, but the Rams need a pass-rusher on the other side of the line of scrimmage. James Hall is also coming off a great year, but he just turned 34. St. Louis will need to find a long-term successor soon. Aldon Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism.

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1
16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell
17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[Bretsky]

Miami actually IMO has a no brainer pick here; it should be interesting. I think I can forecast the next three picks but I'm probably leaning much on need when I call them out

[gbpackfan]

Yawn. This thing is never going to end. Please people, for the love of God, MAKE YOUR PICKS!

[Lurker64]

Miami actually IMO has a no brainer pick here; it should be interesting. I think I can forecast the next three picks but I'm probably leaning much on need when I call them out

If I'm Miami, I'm picking Pouncey or Locker. Everybody and their brother is mocking Ingram to the Fins and I just don't get it.

[Bretsky]

Brown and Williams are muck; Fins are going to pick Ingram. Pouncey at fifteen is too high. I could see Locker

[Lurker64]

Brown and Williams are muck; Fins are going to pick Ingram. Pouncey at fifteen is too high. I could see Locker

Fins need OL and a QB. RBs you can get later. Ingram's not special.

[Guiness]

No RB off the board yet. That's a little surprising, even with a weak class there's usually at least one worth taking. A far cry from the year of Brown, Benson and Williams!

[Smidgeon]

No RB off the board yet. That's a little surprising, even with a weak class there's usually at least one worth taking. A far cry from the year of Brown, Benson and Williams!

But also not out of line of the year of Beanie Wells either.

[Bretsky]

Fins need OL and a QB. RBs you can get later. Ingram's not special.


Guess it all depends on whether they view Ingram as as Emmitt Smith like player or if his lack of breakaway speed equates him with others
This year does seem to be a very ordinary year for the RB group IMO

[3irty1]

The Miami Dolphins apologize for their tardiness. The Dolphins biggest need is obviously a QB. With Newton and Gabbert, gone, and the fact that neither of them are that enticing to begin with, the Dolphins will have to address their QB woes later in the draft. The Dolphins could use an interior lineman to help out their power running game but nobody is worth the 15th choice. There is a need at FS that can't be filled without a major reach and then there is running back. Mark Ingram seems like a natural choice--Brown and Williams are past their prime and are due for free agency. However, Bill Parcells still has some influence with the Phins and the big tuna rarely spends first round picks on offensive players, let alone RB. The Dolphins take by far the BPA in DE, JJ Watt.

[Guiness]

Ralph Wilson shakes his head, pinning for the days when Huizenga was leading that team.

Solid pick, BPA by my estimation. That guy could go top 10 if a couple of teams decide not to blow picks on the sure-flops the QB class is.

[RashanGary]

Jags select Ryan Kerrigan to eventually replace AK74. We thought about Mark Ingram, but with Maurice Jones Drew already in the fold we just couldn't take a player who would have a hard time getting on the field with our first pick.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Carolina has needs all over, including quarterback, but the loss of Peppers has left a gaping hole on their defensive line, and new coach Ron Rivera is defensive minded, Panthers select: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - The Broncos also have needs all over, however, new coach John Fox is switching to the 4-3 defense, and the Broncos D was ranked worst in the NFL last season, so defensive help is a glaring need. They resigned Champ Bailey at CB, and a decent QB should still be around in the second round. After watching Ndamukong Suh take the NFL's defensive rookie of the year award, Fox is looking at a dominating DT who had an amazing combine and zoomed up draft charts, the Broncos select: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Needs: QB, DLine (nose and pass rusher), OT. Thoughts: Shanahan retains all the arrogance he displayed in his previous stint in Denver. He butted heads with his vet QB all season long, almost acting like the trade had been foisted upon him by Snyder. The odds are long against McNabb's return. Behind him is the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman and John Beck. Shanahan has grabbed a first round QB before, but in that case, it was a second tier guy who climbed the board during silly season and was taken 11th overall. Cutler was a classic pocket QB who has a great arm, very good mobility and a 13 year old's attitude. But Ryan Mallet is a big reach here. So is Jake Locker. Cam Newton might fit the bill, and Shanahan would probably not shrink from the challenge if he thought Newton could cut it as an NFL QB. Dareus and Fairley are both gone. Wilkerson and Liuget are available for the inside, though Liuget may be a reach at 10. For pass rush, Watt, Smith and Kerrigan are possible as pass rushers. Castonzo and Smith are the possibilities at O Tackle. Given the absence of Free Agency, Shanahan will have to do something at QB. That something will be Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - Well this is exactly where the Texans did not want to be. Both CBs worth drafting this high have already been taken and Von Miller and Robert Quinn are off the board as well. If I were the Texans GM, I would trade down. But since Im not and this is just a silly online mock draft, Ill make the pick. The Texans are switching the 3-4 defense and need players to fit that scheme. With no CBs or OLBs worth drafting this high, they take the best DL still on the board. With the 11th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select........California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - The Vikings love everything about Wisconsin so JJ Watt is a very tempting pick given some uncertainty along their defensive line. But because of the contract situation with Sidney Rice and the lack of depth behind him, MN feels obligated to go WR and Julio Jones' upside is just too much to pass on. Playing in a run-first scheme with a decent-not-great QB at Alabama, there's belief that Jones could shine even brighter on the NFL stage. His combine performance on an injured foot only solidified this thinking.

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Pick 13: LIONS. The lions deff need help on the O-Line Godser Cherilus will be fine on the Right side, and either Tyron Smith, or Anthony Castonzo look nice. I'm not sure who the lions would like better, but I know I like Castonzo better, so thats the pick. With the 13th pick overall the Lions select Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri . Chris Long had an incredible season, but the Rams need a pass-rusher on the other side of the line of scrimmage. James Hall is also coming off a great year, but he just turned 34. St. Louis will need to find a long-term successor soon. Aldon Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism.

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - The Miami Dolphins apologize for their tardiness. The Dolphins biggest need is obviously a QB. With Newton and Gabbert, gone, and the fact that neither of them are that enticing to begin with, the Dolphins will have to address their QB woes later in the draft. The Dolphins could use an interior lineman to help out their power running game but nobody is worth the 15th choice. There is a need at FS that can't be filled without a major reach and then there is running back. Mark Ingram seems like a natural choice--Brown and Williams are past their prime and are due for free agency. However, Bill Parcells still has some influence with the Phins and the big tuna rarely spends first round picks on offensive players, let alone RB. The Dolphins take by far the BPA in DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Jags select Ryan Kerrigan to eventually replace AK74. We thought about Mark Ingram, but with Maurice Jones Drew already in the fold we just couldn't take a player who would have a hard time getting on the field with our first pick.

17. New England Patriots - Joemailman
18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace
19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig
20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan
21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[swede]

Two picks in one day...the pace is picking up! :)

[RashanGary]

Fins need OL and a QB. RBs you can get later. Ingram's not special.

He's going to be a good back I think. He runs hard. Good vision. Good after contact. Good agility. Good balance. He has the toughness to get the type of yards you see in the NFL. He has the balance to stay on his feet after big contact, so he'll break a lot of medium - long runs. Again, with his great after contact play it will also make him a great redzone player. He goes forward.

He's not flashy, but he's effective. I could see him being a top 10 back during his prime, maybe more if he's on the right team. I think he's one of the safer bets to be good in the whole draft.

[swede]

He's going to be a good back I think. He runs hard. Good vision. Good after contact. Good agility. Good balance. He has the toughness to get the type of yards you see in the NFL. He has the balance to stay on his feet after big contact, so he'll break a lot of medium - long runs. Again, with his great after contact play it will also make him a great redzone player. He goes forward.

He's not flashy, but he's effective. I could see him being a top 10 back during his prime, maybe more if he's on the right team. I think he's one of the safer bets to be good in the whole draft.

He sounds like the AJ Hawk of running backs. :)

I agree that he is well-suited to be a workhorse back on a team with a good running offense. Oddly, the combine made him look average, when the tape makes him look special. I wonder the last time a running back wasn't picked in the top 20?

[swede]

I agree that Ingram is well-suited to be a workhorse back on a team with a good running offense. Oddly, the combine made him look average, when the tape makes him look special. I wonder the last time a running back wasn't picked in the top 20?

Steven Jackson was the 24th player taken in 2004. Since then, Knowshon Moreno was the lowest RB picked, and he only had to wait until the 12th pick. I'm guessing Ingram will go somewhere in between those two spots this year.

[Lurker64]

He sounds like the AJ Hawk of running backs. :)

I agree that he is well-suited to be a workhorse back on a team with a good running offense. Oddly, the combine made him look average, when the tape makes him look special. I wonder the last time a running back wasn't picked in the top 20?

The thing about Ingram is that I think he can be a great RB if you put him behind a really good run blocking OL, but he's not going to be a guy who produces a lot on his own. Miami is not a team with a great (or even a good) OL so I think they would be better suited to addressing another need in the first and then hoping to catch LeShoure or Ryan Williams in the 2nd.

[Bretsky]

Jags select Ryan Kerrigan to eventually replace AK74. We thought about Mark Ingram, but with Maurice Jones Drew already in the fold we just couldn't take a player who would have a hard time getting on the field with our first pick.

ha........I had that one pegged correctly. Good chance they'll pick him at the draft as well

[Bretsky]

If the Fins picked Ingram, JJ Watt is a Hoody player. He belongs on the Pats.

[gbpackfan]

Joe has about another 12 hours to make his pick, then we'll move on.

[Lurker64]

If the Fins picked Ingram, JJ Watt is a Hoody player. He belongs on the Pats.

From what I recall, the Patriots absolutely refuse to deal with the guy who is Watt's agent, there was a contentious negotiation in the past and since then they've never drafted one of his clients in any round. Not sure that's enough to keep them from drafting Watt, but it's a reason it might not happen.

[swede]

I know I am going to waste a lot of mental energy on draft day regarding certain players I don't want going to our division rivals. I would hate to see Carimi, Moffit, or JJ Watt end up in Chi, Minny, or Detroit. I think Pouncey will be pretty good, so I hope he lands somewhere else as well.

This would be a great year for them to all pick quarterbacks that push Tim Couch and Joey Harrington down the NFL bust list.

[Lurker64]

Guess it all depends on whether they view Ingram as as Emmitt Smith like player or if his lack of breakaway speed equates him with others
This year does seem to be a very ordinary year for the RB group IMO

Well, it's also worth considering that even Emmitt Smith may not have been Emmitt Smith if he didn't play behind quite possibly the best offensive line since Vince Lombardi was stalking the sidelines. We can all thank the Vikings for that, by the way.

[gbpackfan]

SAVED BY GRACE, MAKE THE NEXT TWO PICKS PLEASE. Unless Joe sneaks in there before you make his pick for him.

[3irty1]

Tyron Smith, Justin Houston, and maybe Mark Ingram should all be strong contenders for this Pats pick IMO.

[SavedByGrace]

The New England Patriots select Justin Houston

[SavedByGrace]

The San Diego Chargers pick...Muhammed Wilkerson

[Lurker64]

Never mind, I'm an idiot.

This does seem high for Wilkerson though.

[Bretsky]

The Eagles are licking their chops in anticipation
plus
After Seattle offers their 1st round pick to them they will have two.....now that Seattle realizes never to count on a Whitehurst :)

[RashanGary]

The Eagles are licking their chops in anticipation
plus
After Seattle offers their 1st round pick to them they will have two.....now that Seattle realizes never to count on a Whitehurst :)

If the Bucs don't take the player I think they might take, the Eagles could be getting a steal.

[3irty1]

Cheesehead Craig with the NY Giants are on the clock.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The NY Giants are a bit disappointed that T Castonzo did not make it to them to assist in rebuilding their aging line. However Beatty is coming into year 3 and is looking to be making that step to a starting T and Boothe is showing that he could very well be the starter at G this season, the line doesn't look as bad as advertised and thus the Giants can look elsewhere for their first round pick. Let's face it, the LB corps is simply underwhelming and a playmaker would be very welcomed indeed. But when there's a LB available that has proven he can do it all, stop the run, defend the pass and rush the passer a team has to jump on him. His combine may not have been the best, but the overall body of work at the college level was too much to overlook to let some silly drills determine the merits of a player. With the 19th pick of the 2011 draft, the NY Giants select OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Too high for Houston and Ayers IMO. Though reaches happen all the time in the draft.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - The Bills are left with a real poser here. They fully expected Carolina to cave to pressure, and opt for the sexy pick, Cam Newton. That would have made their job a lot easier. The Bills would like to add a QB, and Cam Newton would be the one they want. The Bills would consider a DT, having lost Stroud this year. But Denver, surprisingly, picked Dareus, who played 5 tech in college and would fit in Buffalo's scheme, over Fairley, who projects better in a 4-3. But when it comes down to it, the NFL is a copy cat league. Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year by having top flight corners and playing a lot of nickel. Terrence McGee is getting old, and has missed a lot of games these past couple of years. Peterson is the most talented player in this draft. The Bill select Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - The Bengals have no choice but to take their pick of quarterbacks. It's all but a done deal that Carson Palmer will not play another game for the team, and Jordan Palmer couldn't be a number 3 on most team's depth charts. The real question is, Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton? This prognosticator thinks it won't even be much of a question after Gabbert's pro day. It's also no secret that the Cardinals think very highly of Gabbert and are praying he falls to number 5. Everything about the Bengals organization screams Cam Newton. And, I'll probably regret not picking him in this mock, as the Bengals very well could take him in the real draft. However...With the fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft, the Bengals select Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - The cards not too long ago switched to the 34 defense and need to add a few more impact players on that side of the ball to be effective. They have some good young talent in Dockett, Rodgers-Cromartie, and Wilson, but need a dominant outside pass rusher to move them up the defensive rankings. Luck for them that player is sitting there waiting for them. The azcardinals select: VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - The Browns are working on overcoming many seasons of ineptitude. With a defense-heavy draft last year and a QB already in the fold, the Browns look to give Colt a weapon by selecting A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - 49ers are shocked that Gabbert, Dareus, Peterson, and Green are all gone. Hairball believes he can coach up Smith or later round QB selection. Niners need to shore up defensive backfield and draft Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - Now I feel like I'm selecting him because he was brought up lol! Anyways, titans think about going with Cam Newton, but decide to go BPA: NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - The pick will be Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC. Quinn is one of the best players coming out this year despite being suspended for the entire season. Character concerns have never scared Jerry Jones off before and it won't be any different now.

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Needs: QB, DLine (nose and pass rusher), OT. Thoughts: Shanahan retains all the arrogance he displayed in his previous stint in Denver. He butted heads with his vet QB all season long, almost acting like the trade had been foisted upon him by Snyder. The odds are long against McNabb's return. Behind him is the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman and John Beck. Shanahan has grabbed a first round QB before, but in that case, it was a second tier guy who climbed the board during silly season and was taken 11th overall. Cutler was a classic pocket QB who has a great arm, very good mobility and a 13 year old's attitude. But Ryan Mallet is a big reach here. So is Jake Locker. Cam Newton might fit the bill, and Shanahan would probably not shrink from the challenge if he thought Newton could cut it as an NFL QB. Dareus and Fairley are both gone. Wilkerson and Liuget are available for the inside, though Liuget may be a reach at 10. For pass rush, Watt, Smith and Kerrigan are possible as pass rushers. Castonzo and Smith are the possibilities at O Tackle. Given the absence of Free Agency, Shanahan will have to do something at QB. That something will be Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - Well this is exactly where the Texans did not want to be. Both CBs worth drafting this high have already been taken and Von Miller and Robert Quinn are off the board as well. If I were the Texans GM, I would trade down. But since Im not and this is just a silly online mock draft, Ill make the pick. The Texans are switching the 3-4 defense and need players to fit that scheme. With no CBs or OLBs worth drafting this high, they take the best DL still on the board. With the 11th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select........California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - The Vikings love everything about Wisconsin so JJ Watt is a very tempting pick given some uncertainty along their defensive line. But because of the contract situation with Sidney Rice and the lack of depth behind him, MN feels obligated to go WR and Julio Jones' upside is just too much to pass on. Playing in a run-first scheme with a decent-not-great QB at Alabama, there's belief that Jones could shine even brighter on the NFL stage. His combine performance on an injured foot only solidified this thinking.

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Pick 13: LIONS. The lions deff need help on the O-Line Godser Cherilus will be fine on the Right side, and either Tyron Smith, or Anthony Castonzo look nice. I'm not sure who the lions would like better, but I know I like Castonzo better, so thats the pick. With the 13th pick overall the Lions select Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri . Chris Long had an incredible season, but the Rams need a pass-rusher on the other side of the line of scrimmage. James Hall is also coming off a great year, but he just turned 34. St. Louis will need to find a long-term successor soon. Aldon Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism.

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - The Miami Dolphins apologize for their tardiness. The Dolphins biggest need is obviously a QB. With Newton and Gabbert, gone, and the fact that neither of them are that enticing to begin with, the Dolphins will have to address their QB woes later in the draft. The Dolphins could use an interior lineman to help out their power running game but nobody is worth the 15th choice. There is a need at FS that can't be filled without a major reach and then there is running back. Mark Ingram seems like a natural choice--Brown and Williams are past their prime and are due for free agency. However, Bill Parcells still has some influence with the Phins and the big tuna rarely spends first round picks on offensive players, let alone RB. The Dolphins take by far the BPA in DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Jags select Ryan Kerrigan to eventually replace AK74. We thought about Mark Ingram, but with Maurice Jones Drew already in the fold we just couldn't take a player who would have a hard time getting on the field with our first pick.

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - The NY Giants are a bit disappointed that T Castonzo did not make it to them to assist in rebuilding their aging line. However Beatty is coming into year 3 and is looking to be making that step to a starting T and Boothe is showing that he could very well be the starter at G this season, the line doesn't look as bad as advertised and thus the Giants can look elsewhere for their first round pick. Let's face it, the LB corps is simply underwhelming and a playmaker would be very welcomed indeed. But when there's a LB available that has proven he can do it all, stop the run, defend the pass and rush the passer a team has to jump on him. His combine may not have been the best, but the overall body of work at the college level was too much to overlook to let some silly drills determine the merits of a player. With the 19th pick of the 2011 draft, the NY Giants select OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Tampa Bay really needs help at DE but the guys they were targeting (Watt, Kerrigan, Jordan) are already off the board. They think long and hard about drafting USC OT Tyron Smith because their current RT is average at best. But Tampa isn't affraid to take a risk on guys with character issues, ala Mike Williams, so they decide to get a guy to help their pathetic situation at DE and pull the trigger on..........Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64
22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1*
23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

Lurker is on the clock.

Feel free to keep including the reasons why you drafted the player you did, but I can no longer include them in the update draft board. It's simply too damn long.

[Lurker64]

The Kansas City Chiefs go into this draft looking for an OLB to pair with Tamba Hali, a WR to pair with Dwayne Bowe, and a Nose Tackle to complete their defensive line.

With Miller, Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Houston, and Ayers off the board the cupboard is bare at OLB.

At the start of the process, the Chiefs had hoped that Justin Blackmon would declare for the draft meaning that the Chiefs would potentially have a shot at either Blackmon or Julio Jones. Unfortunately both Blackmon and Michael Floyd elected to go back to school so there's not another first round calibre WR, so this position is better addressed later.

The Chiefs regret passing on B.J. Raji in 2009 to take Tyson Jackson. Not that Tyson Jackson has been a disappointment, but more that the defense really needs a nose tackle. So the Chiefs strongly consider Stephen Paea and Phil Taylor at this point. However, with Paea's questionable knee (and lack of ideal length) and Taylor's status as a career underachiever (and a fatass) the Chiefs decide to see if they can find value at another position.

But because they're somewhat surprised that he's on the board here, and because you don't build a great team drafting for need, the Chiefs elect to go BPA and select Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin. Carimi instantly has the potential to compete at four offensive line positions, and will assuredly be a starter at one of them. Best case scenario he displaces Albert at LT and Albert moves to his more natural position of LG (though he's been a fine tackle, so this isn't a priority). However, since you don't want Albert on the right side and Barry Richardson is an enigma who only occasionally seems like he would like to play football, Carimi is an instant plug and play at RT. He could also land inside at guard where Waters is declining, Lilja is average, and Asamoah is an unfinished product. The Chiefs could really use an OC, so Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski, but decide that Carimi offers better value here, as Wisniewski is not in the mold of a true first round center.

The Indianapolis Colts and 3irty1 are now on the clock.

[woodbuck27]

The Kansas City Chiefs go into this draft looking for an OLB to pair with Tamba Hali, a WR to pair with Dwayne Bowe, and a Nose Tackle to complete their defensive line.

With Miller, Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Houston, and Ayers off the board the cupboard is bare at OLB.

At the start of the process, the Chiefs had hoped that Justin Blackmon would declare for the draft meaning that the Chiefs would potentially have a shot at either Blackmon or Julio Jones. Unfortunately both Blackmon and Michael Floyd elected to go back to school so there's not another first round calibre WR, so this position is better addressed later.

The Chiefs regret passing on B.J. Raji in 2009 to take Tyson Jackson. Not that Tyson Jackson has been a disappointment, but more that the defense really needs a nose tackle. So the Chiefs strongly consider Stephen Paea and Phil Taylor at this point. However, with Paea's questionable knee (and lack of ideal length) and Taylor's status as a career underachiever (and a fatass) the Chiefs decide to see if they can find value at another position.

But because they're somewhat surprised that he's on the board here, and because you don't build a great team drafting for need, the Chiefs elect to go BPA and select Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin. Carimi instantly has the potential to compete at four offensive line positions, and will assuredly be a starter at one of them. Best case scenario he displaces Albert at LT and Albert moves to his more natural position of LG (though he's been a fine tackle, so this isn't a priority). However, since you don't want Albert on the right side and Barry Richardson is an enigma who only occasionally seems like he would like to play football, Carimi is an instant plug and play at RT. He could also land inside at guard where Waters is declining, Lilja is average, and Asamoah is an unfinished product. The Chiefs could really use an OC, so Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski, but decide that Carimi offers better value here, as Wisniewski is not in the mold of a true first round center.

The Indianapolis Colts and 3irty1 are now on the clock.

Hi Lurker64:

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

[3irty1]

The Indiana Colts wet themselves with excitement that the top OT on their board, 20 year old Tyron Smith, somehow made it to them. They laugh their way to the podium like they are robbing a bank in broad daylight.

[woodbuck27]

The Indiana Colts wet themselves with excitement that the top OT on their board, 20 year old Tyron Smith, somehow made it to them. They laugh their way to the podium like they are robbing a bank in broad daylight.

This is interesting (your choice of Tyrone Smith to the Colts) based on my question to Lurker64 (Post above):

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

[Smeefers]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Too high for Houston and Ayers IMO. Though reaches happen all the time in the draft.

Where do you have Ayers? He was a consensus top 15 pick until the combine from what I read. But as I gave in my reasons, I'm not going to let the drills at the combine overshadow the overall body of work and displayed ability.

[Bretsky]

The Kansas City Chiefs go into this draft looking for an OLB to pair with Tamba Hali, a WR to pair with Dwayne Bowe, and a Nose Tackle to complete their defensive line.

With Miller, Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Houston, and Ayers off the board the cupboard is bare at OLB.

At the start of the process, the Chiefs had hoped that Justin Blackmon would declare for the draft meaning that the Chiefs would potentially have a shot at either Blackmon or Julio Jones. Unfortunately both Blackmon and Michael Floyd elected to go back to school so there's not another first round calibre WR, so this position is better addressed later.

The Chiefs regret passing on B.J. Raji in 2009 to take Tyson Jackson. Not that Tyson Jackson has been a disappointment, but more that the defense really needs a nose tackle. So the Chiefs strongly consider Stephen Paea and Phil Taylor at this point. However, with Paea's questionable knee (and lack of ideal length) and Taylor's status as a career underachiever (and a fatass) the Chiefs decide to see if they can find value at another position.

But because they're somewhat surprised that he's on the board here, and because you don't build a great team drafting for need, the Chiefs elect to go BPA and select Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin. Carimi instantly has the potential to compete at four offensive line positions, and will assuredly be a starter at one of them. Best case scenario he displaces Albert at LT and Albert moves to his more natural position of LG (though he's been a fine tackle, so this isn't a priority). However, since you don't want Albert on the right side and Barry Richardson is an enigma who only occasionally seems like he would like to play football, Carimi is an instant plug and play at RT. He could also land inside at guard where Waters is declining, Lilja is average, and Asamoah is an unfinished product. The Chiefs could really use an OC, so Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski, but decide that Carimi offers better value here, as Wisniewski is not in the mold of a true first round center.

The Indianapolis Colts and 3irty1 are now on the clock.


nice pick

for weeks I've been saying Carmini either goes to Indy or the Eagles. Highly unlikely he gets to GB IMO

[Fred's Slacks]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

I know. I think this is the highlight of this forum. Love this.

[swede]

I gotta say, this is pretty fun to watch.

Then you'll love watchingpaintdry.com

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfsi7jTadr1qgfxqno1_500.jpg

[Lurker64]

Hi Lurker64:

I can see why you overlooked Tyrone Smith of S. Cal at LT (maybe?) because he's coming off knee surgery but I'm wondering about your preference of Gabe Carmini over Nate Soldier of Colorado? Why did you go with Carmini? I ask that question acknowleging your strong knowledge of the draft and to see what I can learn from you .

Two reasons. The Chiefs don't really need a LT, they need offensive linemen. The biggest hole is at center, but the bigger holes are at RT and one of the guard spots. Secondly, the Chiefs want to (tautologically) play Chiefs football which involves running the football... a lot. Carimi's a better schematic fit since he's more of a mauler.

[woodbuck27]

Two reasons. The Chiefs don't really need a LT, they need offensive linemen. The biggest hole is at center, but the bigger holes are at RT and one of the guard spots. Secondly, the Chiefs want to (tautologically) play Chiefs football which involves running the football... a lot. Carimi's a better schematic fit since he's more of a mauler.

Thanks.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky*
24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[swede]

Says swede: Anybody coming late to the party is welcome to take on the Jets. If you don't, I'm way too likely to pick as if I were Rich Kotite.

[RashanGary]

I'm guessing Bretsky picks Mark Ingram.

[Bretsky]

I'm guessing Bretsky picks Mark Ingram.

nope.....going into the war room as the Chiefs and Colts took the two guys the Eagles really wanted. If I was the Saints I'd probably snatch up Ingram in a second though.

[mraynrand]

Says swede: Anybody coming late to the party is welcome to take on the Jets. If you don't, I'm way too likely to pick as if I were Rich Kotite.

I want to see that. Warren Sapp is laughing.

[Bretsky]

The Eagles' most glaring weakness is the offensive line. They surrendered 52 sacks this year, including six in that weird Tuesday night game against the Vikings.
At the same time they lack secondary depth and pretty much suck at the CB position accross from Asante Samuel.

The Eagles consider Nate Solder and Jimmy Smith. While the Eagles are intruiged by the talent of Jimmy Smith, he's a huge character risk. They are still shocked some of the teams ahead of them drafted lesser players than Solder and at this point they are taking the BPA here knowing they might modify some positions at their OL due to this pick.


DA EAGLES SELECT.........................

Nate Solder, OT, Colorado. It's hard to ignore the offensive line issues Philly had in a disappointing close to the 2010 season. Solder does not have the strength to play right away for Andy Reid, but it's hard to imagine Reid not being enamored with Solder's physical talents.

Solder is an interesting prospect and one that does fit the mold of the Andy Reid type lineman in a lot of ways. He's got a big frame at 6-8/314 lbs and he's extremely athletic. In fact, he started as a blocking TE much like Jason Peters did. Scouting reports will talk about his good knee bend and footwork like they did with Winston Justice.



The big knock against him in this draft process is his lack of bulk. In fact, he lost 7 pounds between the combine and the pro day. Usually, teams are looking to see guys adding weight over that period. While Solder was probably the most impressive offensive lineman at the combine in the athletic drills like 40 yard dash, shuttle drill, broad jump ect, his raw strength did test particularly well

[Bretsky]

NOTE..............lots of recent mocks have the Chargers taking Wilkerson now

The more I read up on Solder...............dude would be a GREAT pick by GB if he fell. Then we'd have Buluga at RT and Solder at LT for many many yrs to come !!!!!

[woodbuck27]

I'm guessing Bretsky picks Mark Ingram.

The Eagles had a more pressing need on the OL and to get someone to protect their QB. They are OK at present with a promising RB in McCoy and are desperate to make the obvious choice that fell to them. Nate Solder.

Solid pick by B.

[easy cheesy]

From what I've gleaned from old PR threads... let the games begin.... :drma::glug:

or continue as it were....

[PackerPro42]

Says swede: Anybody coming late to the party is welcome to take on the Jets. If you don't, I'm way too likely to pick as if I were Rich Kotite.

I'll take the Jets if you don't want them.

[swede]

I'll take the Jets if you don't want them.

Please do...

It's not that I don't want them, it's just that I don't trust myself to not pick a tight end simply to piss off New Yawkers. And that Notre Dame tight end is still out there waiting for a chance to play for Coach FootJoy.

[mission]

Hopefully we'll be able to do a 2nd round also? :bump:

[Lurker64]

Hopefully we'll be able to do a 2nd round also? :bump:

You might think that, but it will take at least a week to figure out who the Packers pick.

[swede]

You might think that, but it will take at least a week to figure out who the Packers pick(ed).

That was the case with Justin Harrell.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Where do you have Ayers? He was a consensus top 15 pick until the combine from what I read. But as I gave in my reasons, I'm not going to let the drills at the combine overshadow the overall body of work and displayed ability.

Honestly, Ayers is probably slotted correctly. And, you're correct in your assertion that the combine is the reason for his slide. Just like the combine is the reason for Houston's rise. Which I feel makes Houston a reach that soon. I can't argue with your challenge on Ayers. The 17-26 range is the most likely spot for him to fall.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*
25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz
26. Baltimore Ravens - mission*
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[woodbuck27]

24. New Orleans Saints - SavedByGrace*

Thinking about this pick.

The Saints are notorious for going against the grain and the obvious pick to take the best player available regardless of what they may need at a given positions. That makes a pick for the Saints difficult.

It seems to me that the Saints have a primary need at DT and RB.

Reports surfaced a few days ago that the Saints will workout Oklahoma State RB Kendall Hunter in the coming weeks. A projected late first early second round pick. Other reports have Texas CB Curtis Brown in for a look. The word is that won't make Saints fans happy but that's moot. Curtis Brown is also reported to be on the workout schedule for the New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens, Chicago Bears and Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Lurker64]

Saints could definitely use help on the DL, as well as OLB. So a player that Packers might want like Heyward or Ayers might go to New Orleans here.

[woodbuck27]

Saints could definitely use help on the DL, as well as OLB. So a player that Packers might want like Heyward or Ayers might go to New Orleans here.

Yes Lurker64 they might elect BPA LB with this pick.

To elect a pick at RB is a complicated analysis. We're about a month away fr. the draft and not a lot of info. is available RE: definite intentions. They have somewhat of a complicated situation with what players will sign contracts and that will impact overall need. As I see it. It's safe to go BPA - DL.

GO PACKERS!

[gbpackfan]

SavedbyGrace has unitl 7pm CST to make his pick. If it's not in by then, packrulz will make the next two selections.

[packrulz]

The Saints picked up DT Shaun Rogers, so they're good there, but DE Alex Brown is in his 10th year, so help is needed, the Saints select: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

[packrulz]

Pete Carroll and the Seahawks swapped the 40th pick in the second round with San Diego's 60th pick and also will send the Chargers a third-round pick in the 2011 draft for QB Charlie Whitehurst, but he has to be disappointed in his play, 2 TD's, 3 INT's, 65.5 QB rating, and QB Jake Locker was coached by ex Southern Cal coordinator Steve Sarkisian, some scouts thought Locker might be drafted first overall, he's mobile, hard working, gritty, and has a good arm. Hasselbeck has a hard time staying healthy at his age, so QB is a need, besides, all the top offensive lineman are gone. The Seahawks select: Jake Locker, QB, Washington

[Bretsky]

MISSION IS UP

MAZZING GET READY

[mission]

The Ravens upset a lot of fans that wanted hometown favorite, Torrey Smith, after their lack of speed at WR was showcased during last season's playoffs. In selecting CB Jimmy Smith from Colorado, Baltimore goes with the BPA at their #1 position of need. GM Ozzie Newsome has never been scared to draft a player with character concerns and that surely doesn't stop him here. Three out of the top four Raven CBs are free agents; creating too much of a need for negotiating leverage and an infusion of big-time talent.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - packrulz - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

26. Baltimore Ravens - mission* - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[woodbuck27]

The Ravens upset a lot of fans that wanted hometown favorite, Torrey Smith, after their lack of speed at WR was showcased during last season's playoffs. In selecting CB Jimmy Smith from Colorado, Baltimore goes with the BPA at their #1 position of need. GM Ozzie Newsome has never been scared to draft a player with character concerns and that surely doesn't stop him here. Three out of the top four Raven CBs are free agents; creating too much of a need for negotiating leverage and an infusion of big-time talent.

I like Torrey Smith also. Thanks for your pick so we can see what the forum wants at #32.

[woodbuck27]

Pete Carroll and the Seahawks swapped the 40th pick in the second round with San Diego's 60th pick and also will send the Chargers a third-round pick in the 2011 draft for QB Charlie Whitehurst, but he has to be disappointed in his play, 2 TD's, 3 INT's, 65.5 QB rating, and QB Jake Locker was coached by ex Southern Cal coordinator Steve Sarkisian, some scouts thought Locker might be drafted first overall, he's mobile, hard working, gritty, and has a good arm. Hasselbeck has a hard time staying healthy at his age, so QB is a need, besides, all the top offensive lineman are gone. The Seahawks select: Jake Locker, QB, Washington

Nice move for Seattle.

[woodbuck27]

The Saints picked up DT Shaun Rogers, so they're good there, but DE Alex Brown is in his 10th year, so help is needed, the Saints select: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

The paint was dry.

Building the DL for their future. Nice move.

[gbpackfan]

Mazzin is up!

[Bretsky]

Mazzin is topless tanning with da Bikini Girls in Punta Cana.....lol

[gbpackfan]

Well, If Mazzin doesnt make his pick by 10AM CST on Wed, March 30, Joe will make the next two picks!

[Mazzin]

With the 30th pick the Falcons go with.....Torrey Smith w.r. Maryland. Matt Ryan really could use another weapon, micheal Jenkins certainly isn't the answer. Smith is known for his high character, and very high natural athleticisim.

[packrulz]

Some top rated players still on the board:
Mark Ingram, RB, Ala.
Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
Corey Liuget, DT, Ill.
Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. St.
Christian Ponder, QB, Fl. St.
Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (Fl)
Jabaal Sheard DE, Pittsburgh
Kyle Rudolph TE, Notre Dame
Justin Houston OLB, Georgia
Ryan Mallett QB, Arkansas
Stephen Paea DT, Oregon State
Brooks Reed OLB, Arizona

[woodbuck27]

With the 30th pick the Falcons go with.....Torrey Smith w.r. Maryland. Matt Ryan really could use another weapon, micheal Jenkins certainly isn't the answer. Smith is known for his high character, and very high natural athleticisim.

The Falcon fans are very happy with their GM for picking Torrey Smith. He should be a good WR.

Nice pick Mazzin.

[woodbuck27]

28. New England Patroits - Joemailman

What do you think Packer fans? They have seven more picks in the rermaining portion of the first four rounds of this draft. It's a fact that the best teams win Super Bowls with either a solid passing attack or with a 'D' that features stopping the pass. So we have two possibilities on the board above:

Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (Fl) and Brooks Reed OLB, Arizona. Maybe they would have loved getting WR Torrey Smith but he was claimed for the Falcons.

Maybe Joemailman see's it differently?

[Bretsky]

Some top rated players still on the board:
Mark Ingram, RB, Ala.
Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
Corey Liuget, DT, Ill.
Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. St.
Christian Ponder, QB, Fl. St.
Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (Fl)
Jabaal Sheard DE, Pittsburgh
Kyle Rudolph TE, Notre Dame
Justin Houston OLB, Georgia
Ryan Mallett QB, Arkansas
Stephen Paea DT, Oregon State
Brooks Reed OLB, Arizona


I think Jusin Houston was already taken

[woodbuck27]

Some top rated players still on the board:
Mark Ingram, RB, Ala.
Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
Corey Liuget, DT, Ill.
Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. St.
Christian Ponder, QB, Fl. St.
Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (Fl)
Jabaal Sheard DE, Pittsburgh
Kyle Rudolph TE, Notre Dame
Justin Houston OLB, Georgia
Ryan Mallett QB, Arkansas
Stephen Paea DT, Oregon State
Brooks Reed OLB, Arizona

Justin Houston OLB, Georgia was already picked.

[Bretsky]

28. New England Patroits - Joemailman

What do you think Packer fans? They have seven more picks in the rermaining portion of the first four rounds of this draft.


Should be an interesting vote. IMO quality wise there are two BPA's that might grade above the rest of the group gb listed. They may be gone by GB's pick. But if that was our list to pick from we might be balancing need with BPA

[Bretsky]

And if a few of those are gone it's tradedown time....lol

I was listening to NFL Network yesterday and they had an analyst on claiming there was a class A of about sixteen players and then 17-36 were all about the same. I'd love to be in some of these rooms seeing how teams tier'd players

[woodbuck27]

Should be an interesting vote. IMO quality wise there are two BPA's that might grade above the rest of the group gb listed. They may be gone by GB's pick. But if that was our list to pick from we might be balancing need with BPA

Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. St.
Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
Corey Liuget, DT, Ill.
Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor


Like any of these fellas B.?

Aaron Williams (Texas), Cortez Allen (Citadel) or Chris Culliver (South Carolina) ?

[Lurker64]

And if a few of those are gone it's tradedown time....lol

I was listening to NFL Network yesterday and they had an analyst on claiming there was a class A of about sixteen players and then 17-36 were all about the same. I'd love to be in some of these rooms seeing how teams tier'd players

Maybe Jerry Jones's draft board will leak onto the internet again.

[swede]

Bump
1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - packrulz - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

26. Baltimore Ravens - mission* - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin - (Torrey Smith, wr, Maryland)
28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[woodbuck27]

Well, If Mazzin doesnt make his pick by 10AM CST on Wed, March 30, Joe will make the next two picks!

gbpackfan see Bretsky's post.

Most men I've ever known look horrid in a bikini. Mazzin might look rather good?

[Bretsky]

If the pic was accurate Ms Mazzin is hot in a bikini

Hey Mr Mailman........where art thou ?

NE has a pick between two no brainer guys that should have been long gone by now. This shit should almost be too easy for you.
Hoody would be celebrating if he gets to pick between these guys.

[gabe]

I certainly can attest. She looks. "alright" in a bikini. So how Lon before she checks this thread again? Haha

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - packrulz - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

26. Baltimore Ravens - mission* - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin - Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. New England Patroits - Joemailman
29. Chicago Bears - LEWCWA
30. New York Jets - Swede*
31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede
32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[gbpackfan]

Joe has until 6pm CST. Then LEWCWA gets the next two.

[Tarlam!]

Too bad Mazzin took Smith. I would have liked to see him in G&G.

[Guiness]

Interesting crew left on the board. Not many OL taken early compared to the last few years, until the run of three OT's.

From the vantage right now, I'm thinking Pouncey comes to GB. I wonder if Pitt would take him if he's still on the board? If they have him rated decently, you have to think they like the synergy of having two brothers on the OL.

[Tarlam!]

From the vantage right now, I'm thinking Pouncey comes to GB. I wonder if Pitt would take him if he's still on the board? If they have him rated decently, you have to think they like the synergy of having two brothers on the OL.

Guin, you know they'll take Pouncey if he's sitting at 31. TBH, though, he's well gone by 31, IMHO. Maybe they trade up to get him; they should! Personally, I wanted both Pounceys in G&G, but BB is damned good, too.

[swede]

Interesting crew left on the board. Not many OL taken early compared to the last few years, until the run of three OT's.

From the vantage right now, I'm thinking Pouncey comes to GB. I wonder if Pitt would take him if he's still on the board? If they have him rated decently, you have to think they like the synergy of having two brothers on the OL.

Pittsburgh's mock GM knows that his team needs offensive line help. Sherrod and Pouncey will be considered, and ethical constraints prevent him from considering the feelings of the collective GM in Green Bay.

[Tarlam!]

Pittsburgh's mock GM knows that his team needs offensive line help. Sherrod and Pouncey will be considered, and ethical constraints prevent him from considering the feelings of the collective GM in Green Bay.

WHAT??????????? If Pouncy is there at #31, he's a Steeler. I seriously doubt the Steelers wait that long to re-unite the twins. Geez, I wouldn't. If I'm an NFL QB, I would feel reel compfy behind those two.

[get louder at lambeau]

Goddamn does this thing drag.

[Lurker64]

Goddamn does this thing drag.

The fact that this is one of the more depressing offseasons in terms of NFL news in recent memory probably doesn't help this board get the traffic it needs for people to actually make their assigned picks in a timely fashion.

[Tarlam!]

The fact that this is one of the more depressing offseasons in terms of NFL news in recent memory probably doesn't help this board get the traffic it needs for people to actually make their assigned picks in a timely fashion.

Um, ich bin unglaublich beeindruckt. Eine hervoragendene Beurteilung der Situation.


OK, now, translate it if you don't have a concussion.

[MJZiggy]

Um, ich bin unglaublich beeindruckt. Eine hervoragendene Beurteilung der Situation.


OK, now, translate it if you don't have a concussion.

Dammit if only you'd posted that a little sooner. Sorry. Sneezed. Concussion. You'll have to translate.

[Tarlam!]

Dammit if only you'd posted that a little sooner. Sorry. Sneezed. Concussion. You'll have to translate.

Sorry pretty lady, I don't speak French! ;)

[MJZiggy]

Sorry pretty lady, I don't speak French! ;)

Neither do I. Only Spanish baby!

[retailguy]

Sorry pretty lady, I don't speak French! ;)

Plus de, je suis impressionné incroyablement. Une évaluation hervoragendene de la situation.

[Bretsky]

Too bad Mazzin took Smith. I would have liked to see him in G&G.


With the Eagles pick I spent time debating between Smith and Solder as well. Solder IMO will not fall that far; Smith......the reason guys like me like him but some will shy away....great talent with character concerns. I kind of doubt he'd be a ideal TT pick. I also really liked Talib coming out of college. Dynamic talent....he fell further than his talent would normally fall.....but bad person.....who is probably going to jail for a long time now

[Bretsky]

Pittsburgh's mock GM knows that his team needs offensive line help. Sherrod and Pouncey will be considered, and ethical constraints prevent him from considering the feelings of the collective GM in Green Bay.

Pouncey IMO is the better player but Sherrod may fill more of a need in Pitt. Many feel Pouncey will also be a C like his brother in the NFL but most feel like he could excel at G or C

If he gets to GB odds I could see TT being happy with him

[Bretsky]

Joe has until 6pm CST. Then LEWCWA gets the next two.

Hoody Genius might trade this pick to the Carolina Panthers for next year's 1st round draft pick.......lol

[Tarlam!]

Pouncey IMO is the better player but Sherrod may fill more of a need in Pitt. Many feel Pouncey will also be a C like his brother in the NFL but most feel like he could excel at G or C

If he gets to GB odds I could see TT being happy with him


I don't claim to know much, but I would be totally surprised (and quite euphoric) to see TT faced with this decision.

[Bretsky]

I don't claim to know much, but I would be totally surprised (and quite euphoric) to see TT faced with this decision.


I still love reading a lot of mock drafts and watching the NFL Network draft shows and nearly everybody has him going in the 20-30 range.

With that being said, everybody does love tackles and the center/guard appears to be a position that can fall.

The Jets picked Nick Mangold with the 29th pick in the draft a few years back, which was crazy. That guy was an amazing prospect at C and one of the best in the NFL.

[Freak Out]

Wow....Locker to the Seachicks? That could get ugly.

[Bretsky]

Wow....Locker to the Seachicks? That could get ugly.

Who would Seattle rather have.....Locker or Kolb ? If they are not sold on Whitehurst, they are the no brainer team that I'd think would be trading for a QB

[woodbuck27]

Who would Seattle rather have.....Locker or Kolb ? If they are not sold on Whitehurst, they are the no brainer team that I'd think would be trading for a QB

IMO that's an easy one to answer. Locker is a real development project and it's being reported that all the QB"s in this draft class are.

I'd desire Kolb.

GO PACK GO!

[Freak Out]

USC has had some decent QBs but can Pistol Pete develop one in the NFL? Locker that high though is nuts.

[gbpackfan]

Pittsburgh's mock GM knows that his team needs offensive line help. Sherrod and Pouncey will be considered, and ethical constraints prevent him from considering the feelings of the collective GM in Green Bay.

If LEWCWA doesnt make his pick by 8PM CST, finish up the round up until the packers pick.

[swede]

This young man is one of the more experienced tackles in the nation. 2010: An All-SEC selection in 2009 and 2010, He helped pave the way for the Bulldogs to lead the SEC and finish ninth nationally in rushing with 227.6 yards per game. This season, He has helped Mississippi State bulldoze its way to 219.3 rushing yards per game, which ranks 15th nationally. He has helped the top 25 Bulldogs achieve their most wins since 2007. The team captain has started 34 games and appeared in 46 contests for his career. He played in 10 games as a freshman in 2007, started 10 games as a sophomore, and started 12 games as a junior. He stands at 6'5'' and 305 pounds, but he has great agility for a man of his size. He is fundamentally sound, but struggled slightly against elite pass-rushers--whom he will see plenty of in the NFL. He has been a staple at left tackle for Mississippi State and he may be asked to protect Tom Brady's blind side for years to come at the next level as the Patriots select Derek Sherrod, OT from Mississippi State with the 28th pick of the 2011 draft.

NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash—5.2
Bench press--23
Vertical jump—28.0
Broad jump—8’1
Three-cone drill—7.43
20-yard shuttle—4.63

[Lurker64]

Well, after Bowers pro-day today, that #1 overall pick is looking pretty unrealistic.

[swede]

This young man was a second team All-SEC selection this season by the Associated Press. He started every game at center for Florida this season and made 45 total career starts, at center (13), guard (28) and on the defensive line (4). He was part of an offensive unit that paved the way for four 300-yard rushing efforts in 2010, one of only six BCS teams to accomplish that feat. He played on the offensive line in high school, but he was moved to defensive tackle during his freshman season at Florida. Showing versatility, he switched back to offensive guard prior to his sophomore campaign. He stands at 6'5 and 320 pounds, perhaps ever so slightly bigger than his brother, who started as a rookie at center for the Steelers in 2010. Mike does not have the pass-blocking skills necessary to be an elite tackle in the NFL, but he has the ability to be a major force in the running game at guard, and he may even be asked to take some snaps at center as the Chicago Bears select Mike Pouncey with the 29th pick of the 2011 draft.

Mike Pouncey OG Florida

NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash—5.12
Vertical jump—25.0
Broad Jump—8’0
Three-cone drill—7.66
20-yard shuttle—4.64

[swede]

I rather don't want to make three picks in a row. Someone had volunteered to do the Jets for me. I have a pick ready for Pittsburgh if someone can step up and pick for the Jets. WR and DE are supposed to be needs for them. Man a lot of DE's are already gone.

[Lurker64]

I rather don't want to make three picks in a row. Someone had volunteered to do the Jets for me. I have a pick ready for Pittsburgh if someone can step up and pick for the Jets. WR and DE are supposed to be needs for them. Man a lot of DE's are already gone.

Jets should also consider an NT (Paea or Taylor) or a Safety (Rahim Moore is the only safety worthy of a first round pick).

[swede]

Jets should also consider an NT (Paea or Taylor) or a Safety (Rahim Moore is the only safety worthy of a first round pick).

I now they are a defensive-minded club, so I doubt they'll go WR here. I just don't know their defense well, and I don't know what kind of DE's or OLB's they need. Paea is an interesting choice.